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Confidence and Success => Fitness/Diet => Topic started by: timorousme on November 03, 2008, 09:20:42 PM
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Is anybody using this? I just started, and it is INTENSE! About half-way through each video, I think "I cannot wait until this is over." But it feels so rewarding once you're finished. Well, rewarding mixed with the feeling that you're about to die.
I'm on day three, and I can barely move I'm so sore, but it is so worth it.
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What is it?
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It's basically the workout DVD to end all workout DVDs. It's just constantly pushing you and it's basically like having a personal trainer. It's not easy, and I'm sore as hell, but I'm loving it so far.
Tomorrow is Yoga, so hopefully, that's a nice break and will help ease my sore-ness, but with these DVDs, who the hell knows?
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Seen it advertised and pondered the purchase. How long do you work out each day?
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I have all the videos for this, I've browsed them but I don't have the time right now. The system is based around muscle confusion, I've incorporated some of it into my own workouts and it is effing intense.
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Seen it advertised and pondered the purchase. How long do you work out each day?
At least an hour, sometimes two.
It's certainly a cheap option as opposed to a gym membership or a trainer, especially considering that I downloaded it illegally. :-X
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P90X is great if you can handle it. I was going to order it--I took their fitness test and qualified but I wasnt ready to commit to working out 6 days a week for 1-2 hours. So I ordered Power 90 which is like P90X lite but still pretty damn hard IMO.
Your workouts are 6 days a week and 45 minutes a day. I can tell you that I used to work out with weights 3-4 times a week and played some type of sport at least once a week and this is still really hard to me.
The thing is its constant....constant weight lifting sets with little to no breaks. same with the yoga/cardio portion...its constant. this has been the hardest thing for me to handle as I am used to some type of rest in between sets. If you are overweight or out of shape dont waste your money on P90X...it will be too much for you. Start with P90...its half the price and still very hard.
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Yeah, the thing is that I'm not overweight at all. I'm underweight if anything. So, I got P90X because I figure it's probably the best for me to stay the same size but get tone and build some muscle to actually gain weight.
It's intense, but it does feel good after you're done.
... and then unable to move between workouts...
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I hear you bro. Im not overweight myself but a lot of people looking to get into fitness are and probably the most discouraging thing about starting new workout programs is they are too hard too fast...which is why power 90 may be a good ramp up for some. Good for you that you can handle the p90x workouts...I never tried them but I am sure they kick your butt just like the power 90's.
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If you are overweight or out of shape dont waste your money on P90X...it will be too much for you. Start with P90...its half the price and still very hard.
YEP!!! I'm prolly 50lbs overweight....so I started with P90. Definitely plan on moving to P90X after the New Year.
Tomorrow (Monday, 11/10) will be Day #8 for me. I wanna lose at least 50 lbs. I've said that before around here and have made some gains/losses but fizzled out.
Now that I found out I have Diabetes, it's either lose the weight or be on a plethora of meds, man.
I'm stoked now....doing the whole online "Team Beachbody" thing with all the tracking programs and what not. Just gotta keep "pushing play"!!!
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I hear you bro. Im not overweight myself but a lot of people looking to get into fitness are and probably the most discouraging thing about starting new workout programs is they are too hard too fast...which is why power 90 may be a good ramp up for some. Good for you that you can handle the p90x workouts...I never tried them but I am sure they kick your butt just like the power 90's.
Does the Power 90 have plyometrics?
That's the only one so far that feels like way too much for me. It hurt to walk for like three days, and I was pretty sure I was going to die afterwards.
However, on a good note, I did smoke a lot less that day. After that workout, the last thing I wanted was a cigarette.
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Im only on day 5 of the workout so I am not sure if they incorporate boxes to jump on and stuff but they do have some stuff where you do some jumping back and forth to different spots on the floor so it is very "plyometricky"
I try to go as hard as I can with these so I definitely get sore.
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be careful working out on sore muscles. Ideally--you shouldn't. Working out 6 days a week is a BAD way to build muscle--you'll overtrain yourself and end up LOSING muscle mass, or just burning out on working out in general (or both?). If you want to BUILD muscle, you need to eat a lot and sleep a lot. Muscles are built in the kitchen and in bed, not by working out 6 days a week. If you're trying to BUILD muscle, you should really only workout 3x a week, and you should definitely switch up muscle groups.
stronglifts.com guys. If you can't squat 1.5x your body weight at LEAST this should be your bible. Love it. Live it.
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With this program, you don't work the sore muscles. It switches things up so much. The only muscles you work more than once a week are abs 3x a week and back twice a week.
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be careful working out on sore muscles. Ideally--you shouldn't. Working out 6 days a week is a BAD way to build muscle--you'll overtrain yourself and end up LOSING muscle mass, or just burning out on working out in general (or both?). If you want to BUILD muscle, you need to eat a lot and sleep a lot. Muscles are built in the kitchen and in bed, not by working out 6 days a week. If you're trying to BUILD muscle, you should really only workout 3x a week, and you should definitely switch up muscle groups.
stronglifts.com guys. If you can't squat 1.5x your body weight at LEAST this should be your bible. Love it. Live it.
Yeah....the program alternates not only between cardio and muscle groups....but alternates between muscle groups.
The so yer building muscle (more, scientifically, "tearing down" muscle) 3 times per week.
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be careful working out on sore muscles. Ideally--you shouldn't. Working out 6 days a week is a BAD way to build muscle--you'll overtrain yourself and end up LOSING muscle mass, or just burning out on working out in general (or both?). If you want to BUILD muscle, you need to eat a lot and sleep a lot. Muscles are built in the kitchen and in bed, not by working out 6 days a week. If you're trying to BUILD muscle, you should really only workout 3x a week, and you should definitely switch up muscle groups.
stronglifts.com guys. If you can't squat 1.5x your body weight at LEAST this should be your bible. Love it. Live it.
I hear ya dude. I did some crossfit which I think is similar to stronglifts. Anyway P90/P90x never trains the same muscles on consecutive days. Ive done the muscle and fitness type workout for 15 years and made good gains at different times in my life. I can probably bench 100lbs more than my weight and squat at least 1.5 times my wait. And I think Ive leg pressed a small car. lol. But Im interested in more functional muscle at this point and not just being big and muscular. I want flexibility and strong cardio and endurance in addtion to being strong. So far so good...
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I'll post my Day #1 stats as they are posted over at the P90 / P90X Site:
Day #1 - 11/3/08
Weight: 247
Waist: 43"
BF%: 26%
Resting HR: 84 = PRETTY BAD (1 on scale of 1-7 [7=Best])
Blood Pressure: 154/94
Cholesterol: 269
Triglycerides: 700 (so high that no hdl/ldl readings are possible)
Diagnosed with Diabetes Type 2 Sept.15, 2008
On meds for High Cholesterol, High Blood Pressure and Hyperglycemia (High Blood Sugar)
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Finished Day #16 workout of Power 90 this morning (Power Yoga, Cardio and AB Ripper 100).
Down 7 lbs so far (240lbs). Been a bit too liberal with my mealing thus far so cutting back a bit.
My plan is to do the Power 90 workouts until I shed about 40 lbs.....THEN AND ONLY THEN will I ratchet it WAY UP by moving to P90X. Those workouts ain't for wimps, man. Kudos to Timorous for taking them on right now. O0
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If you ever want to be motivated to work out, watch "Pumping Iron" with Arnold Schwarzenegger. That movie is ridiculous.
my favorite quote:
Interviewer: Do you drink milk?
Arnold: No. Milk is for babies.
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Another great motivator (I've heard) is the movie "300."
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I never responded to this post, but I got the P90x series back in 07 to prepare for a snow ski trip I went on. I only worked out with it for a month just to get somewhat fit, which it did exactly what I wanted.
Well, fast forward to today, and I am just finishing week 6 of this and will start week 7 on sunday. I have to say that this program will kick your ass in the beginning. When I first started I could barely get through the warm ups. After week 2 I was able to handle almost everything except for the Yoga.
I have had back issues since I was a teenager, was diagnosed with scoliosis at age 12. With that in mind, I decided that I am getting older and my back is only going to start bothering me more and more, so I needed to do something to strengthen it. This seems to be doing the trick, but I do have to modify some of the routines slightly.
My plan is to finish the classic routine for the 90 days. I can report at this time that at the end of week 5 I had lost 12 pounds and it only seems to be from my stomach. The girl who works for me says I have lost my "pudge".
I decided to eat normally since I am not really overweight, and I really don't like people telling me what I can and can't eat. I was going to wait to finish before I posted, but I am curious if any of you actually finished this program and had any significant changes in your body??
Let me know how this program has worked for you if you finished it.
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....I was able to handle almost everything except for the Yoga.
Yeah....that Yoga is hard core in itself.....takes some doing and getting used to.
I got knocked off my program getting quite ill over the last couple weeks. But know that THIS is the program to get me ROCKIN toward getting off diabetes meds....
So the 14 lbs at the bottom of my post is in limbo for now.....DEFINITELY have seen a marked improvement that rivals the Bill Phillips program, Body 4 Life....another hard core program that utilizes serious weightlifting....however--as you know--P90X is not hard core as far as using heavy weight lifting. But the results from P90X are better all around. (I've done BOTH programs).
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Thanks for replying, I know this is an old topic. I am not really worried about how much I can lift or bench, more wanting to get fit. If I can get flexible as well so be it, but I can only continue to try the yoga no matter how much I fail at it. Whats nice is seeing some definition in my stomach other than round. I will let you know how it goes on the 90. If I look good enough might even post a pic.
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I just ordered my copy of P90X... I can't wait till it gets here!! I have done one round of P90 and want to ramp things up a bit!!
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Well there ya go, mate!!
Be prepared to ramp up....WAY UP!!
I did 75 of the 90 days of P90 since my P90X arrived and I got super impatient.
Post up on how it goes, man!
Rob
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Hey Guys. Have enjoyed reading this old thread. A kid at the gym was telling me about PX90 earlier this week. He said he did it. Was wondering if anyone on here had completed either P90 or PX90?
I have gotten back in the weight room and am loving it. However, I want to get in better shape and this kid was telling me about it.
I am 45 - weigh about 225 and am 6'2". Don't know if this is the program for me or not. Don't want to drop $60 for P90 or $120 for PX90 if it is just going to collect dust.
How does it work?
Do you use free weights with it?
Elastic bands?
Do you still go to the gym?
Do you do any running?
Am curious about this because I enjoy the gym and running and don't necessarily want to leave them behind. I have some free weights but don't want to buy extra free weights just to clutter up the garage.
Any feedback would be apprecited. Would also like to hear how much weight you lost, etc. Thanks.
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I haven't tried that program, but what I have done is build up the elliptical trainer, 6 days a week, 20 minutes 4 days, 30 minutes 2 days, 120-125 strides a minute. I've dropped from a problematic 223 to 205. I've been dieting too, of course, the nothing white kind of thing, low glycemic. It's working. I gained a lot of weight from a medication, Lyrica, but I can't stop that so I'm cutting back on food, and upping the elliptical. It took a little over 4 months. Try it, build up from 5 to 10 minutes, then to 15, then to 20 for a couple of weeks, then hit 30 on a regular basis. It worked for me even w/ the meds continuing. I still hit weights for 30 minutes before the elliptical too, so it can be done in an hour, easily w/ some time to spare for that old buggaboo, crunches.
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Nice job, Saint!!! I'm a big fan of startin' small and gradually increasing.
Hey Sooner,
I started with 75 days of P90. Why 75 and not 90? I got too anxious to move into the big leagues.
You can use resistance bands or dumbells. I use dumbells. All you need is a TV, DVD player and some floor space.
I did 30 days of P90X and then got tripped up by extended illness. Got back to it in 30 days, did another 30 and got tripped up by a bunch of sh** coming down at the same time (lost job, selling the house, etc...)
Back on it and finishing my 6th week of gradually working up in time. It's a KICK ASS set of workouts....the most intense I've ever done. If you can get to where you're keeping up with Tony Horton and the gang on the vids, you're in some killer shape.
It's an EXTREME FITNESS program. So for those interested in just dropping a few lbs or can't hang with the time commitment (6 days per week, about 45 - 60 min. per workout)....…then the DVD’s might collect dust….but if you’re wanting a radical fitness challenge….P90X is the BOMB!!!
The cardio stuff get’s the heart rate going way more rapidly and radically than any running, treadmill, stair-stepper, elliptical or ANYTHING I’ve ever done.
So the guys I know who run in addition to the program actually do it to take a break….
The whole muscle confusion thing is intense and doesn’t play games, man.
Personally, I’ve started out at just 20 minutes a workout….and gradually adding about 5 minutes every couple of weeks.
I lost about 16 lbs initially (myfitnesspal ticker below says 14) but with the two set backs I have yet to move forward. But to do it right takes intense focus and commitment.
More and more Fire Departments and Police Academies are recommending P90X as prep for their academies.
Anyway, it ain’t for the half-hearted….I’ll keep you posted….doing Legs, Back and Abs this morning.
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Check out these before/after's I posted a ways back...
http://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/index.php?topic=401.135
http://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/index.php?topic=401.150
Gotta scroll down a bit....
The first dude is a fellow sly guy!!! O0
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Rob: Thanks for the info and the e-mail webinar. This sounds really really intense. I just learned this afternoon that a friend has the dvd's for px90 and I may borrow them. I will of course let you know. Please keep me updated on your progress. I also plan to check out the webinar if I am back in town next week. Thanks.
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For those of you who have tried the program, what are you using to do the pull-ups?
I thought about buying the suggested detachable pull-up bar, but am hesitant because I don't really trust that it won't crack my door frame. (I'm a solid 210 at the moment)
Also, has anyone tried the bands in the seated position? I just can't see those things being able to mimic 200+ lbs of resistance, regardless of how far back you stretch them, without breaking.
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I have a pullup bar on my lat machine. A friend of mine swears by the "iron gym" pull up bar and said it doesnt hurt his doorway.
I completed P90 a few months ago. I went from about 208 to 190. I definitely got more cut and had all but lost any bellyfat I had...
My flexibility increased and I would say I was in better overall condition. However...190 for my 6'3'' frame IMO is a little too thin.
So now I am working on just adding lean muscle thru some powerlifting. I am doing the Bill Starr 5x5. On my off days I do the P90 cardio routine a couple times a week and throw in the ab routine here and there.
Heres my current routine...
http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm
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I have a pullup bar on my lat machine. A friend of mine swears by the "iron gym" pull up bar and said it doesnt hurt his doorway.
I completed P90 a few months ago. I went from about 208 to 190. I definitely got more cut and had all but lost any bellyfat I had...
My flexibility increased and I would say I was in better overall condition. However...190 for my 6'3'' frame IMO is a little too thin.
So now I am working on just adding lean muscle thru some powerlifting. I am doing the Bill Starr 5x5. On my off days I do the P90 cardio routine a couple times a week and throw in the ab routine here and there.
Heres my current routine...
http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm
I've also had the problem being tall and light as a feather. I'm 6'2" and was obese. 5 years ago I changed my diet and workout routine from a concentration in weight lifting to cardio. I shed weight quickly and passed my 210lb goal, and then I kept moving the bar lower and lower because it actually became like a fun game seeing how low I could get my weight. I stayed in the 180s for a couple years and then briefly tried to hit the 170s. I did.
I was fit but looked like a twig with a bony face and rib marks. I realized I needed to put on some weight so I let myself get back to 200lbs and have remained there. Unfortunately the weight I've put on is not muscle.
One of the things I realized while losing weight is that I have no cheeks. They actually sink inward to a small degree. My face looked nice when I was obese, but when I lost weight I practically lost all of the fullness of my face. Had I had cheeks, I'm sure I would have looked like a balloon while obese. You're lucky because even though you are taller and lighter than me you still have shape to your face. I wish I had my fat face and my current body!
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yeah I hear ya bro...when I get lean my face gets thin too and Im not a fan of that.
Unfortunately the only way to gain weight in your face is to gain weight...which is ok if its muscle.
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yeah I hear ya bro...when I get lean my face gets thin too and Im not a fan of that.
Unfortunately the only way to gain weight in your face is to gain weight...which is ok if its muscle.
How do I add muscle to my face? I'm already opinionated enough, I'd hate to have a powerful mouth to go along with it! :*))
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For those of you who have tried the program, what are you using to do the pull-ups?
I thought about buying the suggested detachable pull-up bar, but am hesitant because I don't really trust that it won't crack my door frame. (I'm a solid 210 at the moment)
Also, has anyone tried the bands in the seated position? I just can't see those things being able to mimic 200+ lbs of resistance, regardless of how far back you stretch them, without breaking.
Hi CIC,
I have done the 90 days of p90x, but I have issues with the ab ripper x due to back history problems. Had to modify a few things throughout until I built up the back muscles. After a 3 week break I just started the 90 again 2 days ago on classic. Just from the break I am already sore again...so I guess I should have at least stretched during my rest....but I decided to party too hard ::).
Anyway, for a pullup bar I used my soloflex that was collecting dust. I hear ya on the door frame issue, mine was I'm too tall, but as far as the bands, just starting out they would be fine. You don't really need to mimc 200 lbs, you just want to get resistance and good quality pullup type exercises. You can up the quantity as needed to work the muscles. Its more about working the muscles than trying to see how much weight they can stand. You can always use heavy weights for the different sets for bulking. Just listen for Tony to tell you what to do for bulk and size in the vids.
Hope this helps.
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Rob: Thanks for the info and the e-mail webinar. This sounds really really intense. I just learned this afternoon that a friend has the dvd's for px90 and I may borrow them. I will of course let you know. Please keep me updated on your progress. I also plan to check out the webinar if I am back in town next week. Thanks.
Hey Sooner,
If you do borrow them do at least 30 days of the rountine. The first 3 weeks are the most intense and you will be sore. By week 4 you will know if you would want to shoot for the whole 90 days.
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Thanks Champ007 for the input and suggestion. I am seriously considering starting with P90. I like to think I am in pretty good shape but it sounds like some on here have had a good experience starting there. I will keep everyone updated.
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go for it Steve. Dont be fooled into thinking P90 is easy...its not as hard as P90X but its still a heck of a workout.
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go for it Steve. Dont be fooled into thinking P90 is easy...its not as hard as P90X but its still a heck of a workout.
That's good to hear. I want something challenging and will show results. It appears the P90 is the place to start for me.
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I ordered P90 per DJ's suggestion. It should arrive in a couple of days. I'm excited to get back into shape.
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Hey Hookem. I think I am going to do the same thing. Good luck and let me know how it works for you.
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good deal guys. Look forward to hearing about your progress....I do P90 cardio and abs still (and the other routine I posted for weight lifting)but can definitely say P90 will trim you down and make you more flexible....and stronger in certain ways.
It will give you a lot of muscle ENDURANCE...
To get max effect I would also strongly consider purchasing a book called the abs diet by david zirilenko(sic) who is a editor at mens health.
Its good solid advice on food and not over the top at all. You actually wind up eating MORE food...just different food.
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Did my first Sculpt exercise today and boy am I out of shape. Good thing i'm starting to do something again. It looks simple but it wore me out. Cardio and abs tomorrow, wish me luck!
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Good deal Hookem. The sculpt I always found easier than the cardio one because of my weight lifting background. However there are things that are tough about it for sure......the 7-7-7 is a killer.
when I first did the cardio I could not keep pace with Tony...but it gets better...each time I did it I just kept doing a little more until cardio one was too easy...
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Cardio was a killer too. The abs wasn't too bad. I'm sore as hell so I guess i'm doing it right. Feeling stronger already though. I'm psyched about getting in shape. The hardest part for me is going to be the eating right. I hate vegetables. Anyway, are there any supplements i should take that you know of?
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Anyway, are there any supplements i should take that you know of?
I would recommend Animal Pak vitamins http://www.animalpak.com/html/sections.cfm?ID=7 (http://www.animalpak.com/html/sections.cfm?ID=7) They're intense. I did two weeks of P90X, then started these bad boys and my recovery was noticeably better the first day. You can take 1-2 packs as needed, depending on your training level. If you really don't like veggies, I'd recommend two a day to get everything you need. It's like a multivitamin on steroids (11 pills per pack).
Definitely get some whey protein. Should probably eat about 1 g / day per pound of body weight (this is a rough guesstimate).
The vitamins will make your urine turn neon yellow rather than clear (b/c of the insane amount of B-12, I believe...) Plus, water is amazing. If you really can't stomach the veggies, then at least stick to the rest of the meal plan, take plenty of vitamins, and drink lots of water to help keep you hydrated and curb your hunger pains.
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Thanks guys for all of the tips. I just received my P90 today and have a friend doing P90X. My goal is to move straight from one to the other and do a continuous 6 months. I have become too much of a couch potato since the broken ankle 10 years ago and departure from the Army.
I have no cartilage in the right ankle because of the two surgeries, but most of the exercises i saw were fairly low impact on ankles. And I need to strengthen them to compensate. Do the programs look modifiable enough that I can take that into consideration?
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I think I have made the decision to start P90X. I think I am in pretty good shape. I guess we will see. Wish me luck.
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Best of luck. Let us know how it progresses.
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Do the programs look modifiable enough that I can take that into consideration?
Yes....some of the Plyometric exercises can have some fair impact which Tony H. admits is "out of style" but he always provides alternate moves. There's a guy with a prosthetic leg on the Plyo DVD so it's all doable at various levels.
The way I did it was to start out with just doing 20 minutes of each workout and adding 3 to 5 minutes per week. That Yoga X is an HOUR-AND-A-HALF.....there's no way I was gonna tackle that all at once.
INTENSE STUFF, MAN!!!