UPDATE ABOUT DISCIPLINE...........

[SLYinKC]

I have a 10 year old that has had many issues in the past, including inappropriate language, violence (hitting his classmates) and behavioural problems.  We are on a first name basis with the Principal at school because we are in constant contact with the school as my son has problems following the rules. He was diagnosed as ADHD but I am not using that as an excuse. this has been going on since he was about 4 years old. sorry for the long rant.

This is exactly like my son.  We've had problems beginning in kindergarten.  We had just too many conferences with the teachers and principals.  Went to counseling and the counselor finally told us the she was wasting our time and money.  We finally got him diagnosed by a psychologist as ADHD. It still took us almost 2 years before we decided to try the meds. He's been on them for 2 months and we've seen a great improvement in his behavior and the teacher has not had any problems.  This was another time I wish I hadn't waited so long to act.

[baldken]

Make sure you get second opinions and don't settle for one persons opinion.  My son (now 10) has ADD, because he did not have ADHD the teachers at his school told us that he needed a another year of kindergardin to mature.  We did that and that year was great, but half way throught 1st grade we had the same problems again.  I feel bad that I may wasted a year of his life accepting what the schools said.  Push them  and make sure they follow up and get a couple differant people/prodessionals involved

[Timmay]

well this is 2 doctors opinions so we have it all covered I believe

[D.A.L.U.I.]

I have a 10 year old that has had many issues in the past, including inappropriate language, violence (hitting his classmates) and behavioural problems.  We are on a first name basis with the Principal at school because we are in constant contact with the school as my son has problems following the rules. He was diagnosed as ADHD but I am not using that as an excuse. this has been going on since he was about 4 years old. sorry for the long rant.

This is exactly like my son.  We've had problems beginning in kindergarten.  We had just too many conferences with the teachers and principals.  Went to counseling and the counselor finally told us the she was wasting our time and money.  We finally got him diagnosed by a psychologist as ADHD. It still took us almost 2 years before we decided to try the meds. He's been on them for 2 months and we've seen a great improvement in his behavior and the teacher has not had any problems.  This was another time I wish I hadn't waited so long to act.

Our daughter, now 25 and finishing law school this year, was diagnosed ADD in her second year of high school, and trusting the pediatrician and psychologist, we started the meds the day of the diagnosis, and "wiz bang" twenty-four hours later, we had our "old" daughter back.  That's one of the affirmations of the diagnosis.  The only thing we did was to have some tutoring to insure that during the pre-diagnosis stage that she didn't fail to get a good background in her academic subjects.  She has the "perfect" symptom also, but that didn't hurt, she got a 798 in the SAT II writing test out of 800, she's "bugged" about grammar & spelling---she didn't get it from me.  My point is that having medical assistance from people you can trust is essential, but I understand w/ the screwed up health insurance requirements that it is increasing difficult to do. 

[Zeekev]

I took my son to 3 different psychologists and all came back with the same diagnosis, ADHD. His mother and I discussed meds and she was on board to give it a try but later changed her mind and the school problems still persist. I can't go to the Dr. myself as my son's pediatrician knows that his mom and I are not togehter and had told us she will not prescibe meds without both parents consent. I wish we could give it a try to see the results but so far it is a losing battle.

Timm, I hope your son responds well to the meds. Good Luck!!

KC

[D.A.L.U.I.]

I took my son to 3 different psychologists and all came back with the same diagnosis, ADHD. His mother and I discussed meds and she was on board to give it a try but later changed her mind and the school problems still persist. I can't go to the Dr. myself as my son's pediatrician knows that his mom and I are not togehter and had told us she will not prescibe meds without both parents consent. I wish we could give it a try to see the results but so far it is a losing battle.

Timm, I hope your son responds well to the meds. Good Luck!!

KC

I hope you don't give up.  The results of correct medication are relatively instantanious, and so obvious.  We know another family who had a son w/ ADHD, and he unfortunately stopped his medication, and won't use it now.  He's thirty one and has been unable to maintain any consistent employment and it's basically ruined his prospects for what is generally considered a successful and happy life.  He got a college degree, with substantial difficulty, but that was his last achievement of note.  He's a nice guy, but without the ability to carry through on any task of even modest complexity.  I remember our daughter, after being on the medication, explained to us what it felt like before the diagnosis and treatment.  She compared it to those small puzzles where there are four or five ball bearings in a little box, and the object is to put all of them in the appropriate holes.  Without medication, she said, it's like trying to do it, but there aren't any holes, so the thoughts and ideas necessary to function, won't stay in place long enough to allow the learning process to proceed.  Best of luck.

[Timmay]

OK y'all ready for this.  Last night...thursday night..was the first dosing of the meds.  OK first of all...you would have thought we were murdering our child.  The medicine has to be deluted in 4oz of water....yes 1/2 cup...small amout of water...would you all agree?  Well the medicine made the water look a little cloudy.  Before we gave it to him I told the wife ..wait...I want to taste the medicine first before he started it.  I took my finger and got a little droplet of it.  Tasted it.....taste liek fruit.  Awww this gonna be easy.  It will make the water taste like koolaid.  He walks in....whats that he says.  Its your medicine I tell him.  Why is it cloudy?  I said because it is water and your medicine has to be deluted in water.  I aint drinking it!  I turn look at him, OH YES YOU ARE BUDDY!.  No I aint.  I said Look!...we just spent 80 bucks on this stuff YOU WILL DRINK IT.  It taste fine...only taste like fruit.  Well I need another glass of plain water to drink after i take that...I said fine ..I will get you some more water.  Just drink it all in one gulp.  He picks it up...crying cause he doesnt want to take it.  Barely..I MEAN BARELY gets any on his tongue....OMG my throat is swelling up....it makes my tongue numb.....im gonna get sick!  me and the wife just look at each other in disbelief.  I told him once again...You will drink this...it doesnt taste bad, it taste like clear Koolaid..fruit punch..No it isnt...its poision.  Why you all being so mean to me.  you are yelling at me and its not my fault the stupid doc. is making me take this...why do i have to take liquid form.  I said ok we will get the tablet form and you have to swallow it..  I cant take pills you know that it will make me choke and gag.!  THEN THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE LIQUID!  Imma gonna get sick...I have to go pee!  I said well go pee and march your ass right back in here and take this medicine.  You have to drink it within 15 minutes of mixing it.  He comes back in...I cant.  I just cant daddy!  Wife tells him either you take it or we take you back to the doctor. NO MOMMY NO I DONT WANT TO GO BACK TO THE DOCTOR SHE WILL GIVE ME A SHOT!.  10 minutes has passed and still all we have gotten in him is like a drop off of a dropper.  Still crying and screaming finally the wife walks out..Leaves me standing there with a kid who is terrified of this medicine.  Finally I had enough and i just look at him dead straight in the eye and said DRINK IT! DRINK THE DAMN WATER! THATS ALL IT IS WATER WITH FRUIT FLAVORED MEDICINE CAUSE IF YOU DONT DRINK IT I WILL PUT IT IN ONE OF THOSE MEDICINE SYRINGES AND I WILL SHOOT IT DOWN YOUR THROAT!  I know that may sound extreme and maybe like I was out of control...it was because I WAS and I WAS ABOUT to lose it.  My wife even steps back in and taste the medicine in the glass....she said Logan...there is hardly any taste to it..its basically all water.  Finally FINALLY!  he takes it..all but 1/4 of it.  Crying ...carrying on...saying we were mean to him and blah blah blah...so we sit down for supper.  Here we go again.  It is our fault that we FORCED him to take the medicine and now all of his food taste bad. We are like Logan you just need to calm down. you are putting thoughts into your head and making the whole situation worse than it is. He said well my tongue is numb.  His hotdog taste like bologna...I was like what?   You boiled the  hotdogs didnt you!  I said no i put them in the microwave.  Then were are the burnt spots if you put them in the microwave.  I said they have no burnt or scroched marks on them because you dont like them on there...cause if there were...you wouldnt eat them because they werent PERFECT!.. LOL....well needless to say ...all he ate was some chips and koolaid.  Sorry if this was so long...but has anyone else in here ever had to deal with stuff like this? Im sure I am not the only one...but come on give me a break here....I want to make it a point....before someone misreads stuff into this...I do not and i repeat do not Verably Abuse or physically abuse my kids.  It is just at some point in time you have had about all you can handle and then you just start flying off. 
Wow I feel better...somewhat. Just pray this medicine works and that tonight we are going to try and mix the water with 7UP.....hope it works.
Thanks Timmay

[D.A.L.U.I.]

Tim:
For you, just for you, another advantage of Sly--you won't know how grey this is making your "hair!"  I think everyone has had a "fussy" eater--it's not fun more like having an ultra Orthodox Rabbi as a house guest and trying to feed him!.  I think once he starts feeling the effect of the medication, Zolfot, I think you said, he'll probably be asking for it.  I think it does come in tablets-Google the drug name from the bottle and see what the forms are that it is available in.  The bad news is that based on our experience with it with an old aunt, it's a two week process before it fully kicks in for one use--a mood elevator, but hopefully it will start sooner for your application.  But boy, once it kicked in, she was a different person and wanted to be sure she got it every day.  Just remember, this is probably one of the most important things and times in the life of your son, and it will work out.  Hold in, don't go completely grey--if you're lucky maybe your hair will just fall out.

[Timmay]

  Hold in, don't go completely grey--if you're lucky maybe your hair will just fall out.

That wouldnt be a bad thing for sure! LOL

[Bald_Okie]

TiimJ - Your description of the medicine scene sounds so much like my son. I was so glad it was someone else and not me. My son would have added the twist of running to the trash and making himself throw up.

[Mikekoz13]

TIM-

                   Any chance it's OK to dilute that in another liquid..... like maybe a fruit juice? Then he'll never even know he's taking it.


We had to pump my son full of various medications from the time he was 8 months old until he was about 6 years old (severe seizure disorder). I'm thankful that it was nver a problem with him...... proably because he started taking them so young and didn't know any different.


                                                                     

[Timmay]

There is only 5 kinds of liquid you can mix this with and we called the pharmacy and we were told to not mix it wiht anything other than those 5 because of chemical reactions...so we are limited to Water, lemonade, orange juice, 7 UP and ginger ale.  So far the 7UP is working wonders.  Last night....not a word out of him.  We told him it was medicine time and we both braced ourselves...he walks in ...not a word...chugged it down.  We were both left in awe...So I dunno....he is just gonna have to face it...he is going to take it everyday.  The meds seem to be working great so far.  I wasnt expecting this quick of action....figured it would take 2-3 weeks to kick in..but it was almost instant.  He goes back to the Dr. this week for a follow up to see how he is doing with the meds.  Just keep the prayers coming folks...Thanks for the ones we have gotten.
Timmayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

[D.A.L.U.I.]

.  The meds seem to be working great so far.  I wasnt expecting this quick of action....figured it would take 2-3 weeks to kick in..but it was almost instant.  He goes back to the Dr. this week for a follow up to see how he is doing with the meds.  Just keep the prayers coming folks...Thanks for the ones we have gotten.
Timmayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

[Timmay]

Hey Saintc...I think you forgot to add your reply.....lol

[D.A.L.U.I.]

Hey Saintc...I think you forgot to add your reply.....lol

I sent one, or I tried--I'm not very computer adept obviously.  My thoughts for you were that it's a great confirmation of the diagnosis and that your son now has the opportunity to pursue his abilities, onward and upward.  Now I have to add, maybe I need to get some meds to learn to work the damn computer!