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Flu shots?
« on: October 17, 2011, 01:50:55 PM »
Read the article. This is why I don't get flu shots.

http://www.naturalnews.com/033891_vaccines_delayed_injury.html#ixzz1b3qeY3RU

There are just enough doubts about what's in flu shots to have made me decide not to partake of this crap. I work in healthcare and there is a yearly push on employees who provide direct patient care to get these things. The one statement that stops the discussion is telling the person with the needle that you'll take the shot if you get a written agreement from management to absorb all costs related to any medical condition attributable to these injections. When that demand is heard often enough maybe the people with the needles will actually start to do some research on vaccines and their potential side effects.


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Re: Flu shots?
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2011, 02:10:33 PM »
"Dr." Hugh Fudenberg is cited in the article as "world renowned" for his work.  The only problem is that he's lost his license by indefinite suspension and his work has been rather completely discredited.  See:  http://www.casewatch.org/board/med/fudenberg/1995order.shtml 
Whether you get a flu shot or not depends on a lot of information, but information based on this guy would be highly suspect IMO.

For my own part I do get the shot every year.  I've never had any reaction at all--unless not getting the flu qualifies as a reaction.   

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Re: Flu shots?
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2011, 02:21:33 PM »
I commented on an older post about flu vaccinations but I think it's worth repeating:  I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I just can't trust mass inoculations.  I haven't had a flu shot since I was a child and can't remember the last time I've had influenza. 

Hell, I avoid taking Tylenol and other common pills as much as possible.  I think living a healthy and natural lifestyle is the best preventative measure for illness. 

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Re: Flu shots?
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2011, 02:24:53 PM »
I had actually made the decision years ago to avoid flu shots, long before I read this article. My concern is with the additives in the vaccines, particularly the metals, and the fact that no one pushing these things is willing to vouch for the safety of the vaccines in view of what is in them.
Also, the vaccines are created on a "best guess" theory in that they contain inactive specimens of last years flu strains. Flu mutates regularly so there is no reason to believe that the vaccine will be effective this year.
But hey man, it's your body. For my part I would rather not risk my health on last years flu being able to protect me from this year's flu. If I do get sick I'm down for 2 or 3 days and then I'm back to work. Not a big sacrifice when I compare it to a future encounter with Alzheimer's.
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Re: Flu shots?
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2011, 02:29:16 PM »
Not a big sacrifice when I compare it to a future encounter with Alzheimer's.

Aw come on--not guts no glory--and you don't remember anyway! >:D

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Re: Flu shots?
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2011, 02:35:44 PM »
Not a big sacrifice when I compare it to a future encounter with Alzheimer's.

Aw come on--not guts no glory--and you don't remember anyway! >:D

If only that were the case. It's just not that simple. Patients with Alzheimer's are miserable. It would be different if it just caused mild dementia that made me laugh every time I soiled myself. Unfortunately I see people in this condition all to often and it is an ugly way to exist. And I use the word "exist" because Alzheimer's patients are not living, they are just existing. And no one has been able to guarantee that Alzheimer's is NOT the end result of vaccination. That worries me.
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Re: Flu shots?
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2011, 04:53:51 PM »
Ijust got my flu shot at high noon today.

I've been getting one every year for the last 5 or 6 years and thank god I haven't gotten the flu.



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Re: Flu shots?
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2011, 04:55:25 PM »
Oh brother it must be October. Every year at this time I have to listen to the same nonsense about flu vaccines..

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Re: Flu shots?
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2011, 05:07:05 PM »
I had one and it was covered by my plan. Oh well.

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Re: Flu shots?
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2011, 07:26:17 PM »
Oh brother it must be October. Every year at this time I have to listen to the same nonsense about flu vaccines..

This is the response of someone that has not done their homework. (Sorry Tom)

ABout 13 years ago I became a self taught expert on the "possible" side effects of vaccines. Buddha is correct about vaccines containing a lot of potentially bad things.

When my son was 8 months old his life was nearly ruined by the DPT shot that nearly every child in America receives. After 5 very long years of days filled with seizures, the promise by some of the best doctors in the country that our son would deteriorate to the point of spending his life in a wheelchair with no quality of life, and trying LITERALLY every anti-seizure medicine (some very toxic) the Good Lord blessed us with a nearly 100% recovery.
The saddest part of this for my son and every kid that gets this shot is that a shot that cost only $6 more would have avoided the problem 100%..... $6..... who the Hell wouldn't pay that to keep their child safe. That shot is now the norm.

Before you naysayers tell me I'm full of it you should know this..... I asked many doctors over the years about the connection between vaccines and tragedy. Nearly every one of them told me there was no connection.... and I knew every one of them was lying to me. Notice that I said "nearly" every doctor. Finally one doctor pulled me into a room, closed the door and said these exact words to me with tears in his eyes...... "If you ever tell anyone I told you this I will deny it. I will swear that I never spoke to you about this. DO you understand?" The doctor went on to say "I not only believe there is a connection, I am sure of it." The doctor then swiftly walked away and I never saw that doctor again.
Over the years my son was drug toxic, incoherent because of the drugs, had blood drawn every two weeks for months on end, and faced the possibility that at least one drug could be fatal. This was our lives for over 5 years... and then several years more wondering if things were going to get bad again.
I had educated myself to the point that I knew more about vaccines than some of the doctors we saw.

I've argued with doctors about getting my kids vaccinated.... to the point that one questioned my committment as a Father.Let's just say the nurses had to pull me off of that a$$hole.

I had one doctor say very matter of factly to me that "ONLY" 1 in 100,000 kids have problems with vaccines. My response to him was, "Well if that one kid is yours it might as well be every kid in 100,000". He just shrugged.

I've lived through this guys. I'm NOT anti vaccine. I've had dozens of people that know what happened to us ask me about vaccines over the years. Nearly all thought I would tell them not to get vaccinated. What I tell them is that EVERY single person should educate themselves about what they are about to put into their own body or the body of their loved ones. ANd education does NOT mean asking the doctor that is about to give you the vaccine.

Sorry about the long post............... this one is close to home and my Heart.
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Re: Flu shots?
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2011, 07:35:47 PM »
Also... there are certain vaccines that my kids have not ever had :

MMR vaccine (measels,mumps,rubella)
Chicken Pox vaccine
The "P" portion of the DPT (Pertussis also known as whooping cough) My son received the first doses of the "P" but no more after he got so sick.

Believe me.... my son would have been much better off getting any of these things over what he went thru.
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Re: Flu shots?
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2011, 08:39:35 PM »
NEVER had a flu shot, the Lovely Mrs. Schro never has either.
Neither of my kids have, and we're never sick. Coincidence?

Bottom line, different strokes for different folks (kinda like Crocs), but Team Schro is a flu shot free environment.


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Re: Flu shots?
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2011, 06:33:39 AM »

Neither of my kids have, and we're never sick. Coincidence?

That's amazing Schro. I don't think I have ever heard of kids never being sick. That is great.

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Re: Flu shots?
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2011, 06:44:29 AM »
Oh brother it must be October. Every year at this time I have to listen to the same nonsense about flu vaccines..

This is the response of someone that has not done their homework. (Sorry Tom)

ABout 13 years ago I became a self taught expert on the "possible" side effects of vaccines. Buddha is correct about vaccines containing a lot of potentially bad things.

When my son was 8 months old his life was nearly ruined by the DPT shot that nearly every child in America receives. After 5 very long years of days filled with seizures, the promise by some of the best doctors in the country that our son would deteriorate to the point of spending his life in a wheelchair with no quality of life, and trying LITERALLY every anti-seizure medicine (some very toxic) the Good Lord blessed us with a nearly 100% recovery.
The saddest part of this for my son and every kid that gets this shot is that a shot that cost only $6 more would have avoided the problem 100%..... $6..... who the Hell wouldn't pay that to keep their child safe. That shot is now the norm.

Before you naysayers tell me I'm full of it you should know this..... I asked many doctors over the years about the connection between vaccines and tragedy. Nearly every one of them told me there was no connection.... and I knew every one of them was lying to me. Notice that I said "nearly" every doctor. Finally one doctor pulled me into a room, closed the door and said these exact words to me with tears in his eyes...... "If you ever tell anyone I told you this I will deny it. I will swear that I never spoke to you about this. DO you understand?" The doctor went on to say "I not only believe there is a connection, I am sure of it." The doctor then swiftly walked away and I never saw that doctor again.
Over the years my son was drug toxic, incoherent because of the drugs, had blood drawn every two weeks for months on end, and faced the possibility that at least one drug could be fatal. This was our lives for over 5 years... and then several years more wondering if things were going to get bad again.
I had educated myself to the point that I knew more about vaccines than some of the doctors we saw.

I've argued with doctors about getting my kids vaccinated.... to the point that one questioned my committment as a Father.Let's just say the nurses had to pull me off of that a$$hole.

I had one doctor say very matter of factly to me that "ONLY" 1 in 100,000 kids have problems with vaccines. My response to him was, "Well if that one kid is yours it might as well be every kid in 100,000". He just shrugged.

I've lived through this guys. I'm NOT anti vaccine. I've had dozens of people that know what happened to us ask me about vaccines over the years. Nearly all thought I would tell them not to get vaccinated. What I tell them is that EVERY single person should educate themselves about what they are about to put into their own body or the body of their loved ones. ANd education does NOT mean asking the doctor that is about to give you the vaccine.

Sorry about the long post............... this one is close to home and my Heart.

Thank God that your son came out of the other side of this ordeal in good shape Mike. That being said, we were specifically speaking about Flu shots here which I and tens of millions of people around the world that do not do their homework will continue to take every year. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

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Re: Flu shots?
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2011, 08:58:44 AM »
I never got one until I joined the Navy at age 19...now I get them every year.  Actually received the "flu mist" my last couple of years in.

 



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