Computers!

[tomgallagher]

uh huh, right, OK, whatever you say.

[zetaeffe]

uh huh, right, OK, whatever you say.

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[Alexander215]

Charlie Brooker on why he hates Macs [and I share the sentiment, no offense ]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/feb/05/comment.media

Have just said in my former message that Windows has his plus, and MacOSX
has some drawbacks too, nevertheless that article is not good as it is just
a "pour parler" and doesn't enter into the technical issues... he neither knows
that also mac mouses have the second button for right clicking...

I can agree that many Mac users buy Macs becasue they are "fashionable",
but nobody can deny the fact that some features of MacOS are special...
Spotlight has been out way before than windows search (and Microsoft copied
from it), Time machine is the best backup I've seen so far.

But for the average user Windows is ok, I have both a WinPC and an iMac...
use Windows at work and MacOS at home!

At the end what really counts is that the pc get things done: then if you wish
to pay more for a bigger screen or for the all in one design you have to evaluate
if it does worth the price difference for you.

Actually several brands make 24 inch laptops too.

[Alexander215]

Charlie Brooker on why he hates Macs [and I share the sentiment, no offense ]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/feb/05/comment.media

Have just said in my former message that Windows has his plus, and MacOSX
has some drawbacks too, nevertheless that article is not good as it is just
a "pour parler" and doesn't enter into the technical issues... he neither knows
that also mac mouses have the second button for right clicking...

I can agree that many Mac users buy Macs becasue they are "fashionable",
but nobody can deny the fact that some features of MacOS are special...
Spotlight has been out way before than windows search (and Microsoft copied
from it), Time machine is the best backup I've seen so far.

But for the average user Windows is ok, I have both a WinPC and an iMac...
use Windows at work and MacOS at home!

At the end what really counts is that the pc get things done: then if you wish
to pay more for a bigger screen or for the all in one design you have to evaluate
if it does worth the price difference for you.

What do you mean by all in one design?

[time2shine]

Get a mac with windows vmware.  best of both worlds. 

[SlyHigh]

Charlie Brooker on why he hates Macs [and I share the sentiment, no offense ]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/feb/05/comment.media

The only things he mentioned were the lack of a right mouse button and few games made for Mac.  You can get a Mac with right mouse buttons (control-click is just as easy).  It's no secret that for serious gamers, PC is the way to go.

For most people, a PC or a Mac would be about equal.  For gamers, it's PC, and for professional graphics and video, Mac is the way to go.

I like my Mac because it works.  It keeps things simple.  To remove a program on a PC, you run an uninstall utility.  On a Mac, you drag its icon to the trash can.  The included software for multimedia editing is very simple to use but has lots of features.  There are lots of little tools and utilities that make using it better (I wish my PC at work had Expose').

An no one can claim that Macs crash more than PCs.  I can't tell you how many times IE7 crashes at work, and when it does, your whole system locks up for an eternity.  I've had a couple crashes on a Mac, and you click force quit and the program is gone.  If you try to end process on a PC it still just hangs and waits.

There's nothing wrong with having a preference.  There's nothing wrong with preferring PCs.  I've just found that my Mac runs better than any PC I've owned, has better software on it, and better utilities to get your work done.  Not to mention having a desktop computer with only a power cable.  Now that's just cool.

[tomgallagher]

I run IE7 and have never had a crash.

[time2shine]

I run IE7 and have never had a crash.

pigs DO fly!!!!! 

[Brkeatr]

I run IE7 and have never had a crash.

pigs DO fly!!!!! 

Now Now Boys........

[SlyHigh]

I run IE7 and have never had a crash.

pigs DO fly!!!!! 

He probably has IE7 but never uses it.  That's why it never crashes. 

I don't want to start a Mac-PC debate, because it never gets resolved.  It comes down to personal preference.  Macs are better for some things, as are PCs.  Either work just fine for many folks.  No one can say one is better than the other for all people and all uses.

But I still believe if people try a Mac for a few weeks they probably won't go back.

[hammerdrill376]

Dell Deminsion desktop..older...think we bought it in 03 but still running well and does  what I need.

[TheSlyBear]

I run IE7 and have never had a crash.

You are in the vast minority.

[Maltz]

Get a mac with windows vmware.  best of both worlds. 

Agreed.   I'm a long time Mac AND Windows guy, but whenever I have the choice, I go with Mac.  For certain things like MS Access or SAS, I have to use Windows.   I actually use Parallels, but VMWare is the same thing.  For games and such, you can even boot directly into Windows on any Mac and get the full performance out of the machine.  Macs may cost a little more, but the flexibility rocks.

Oh, and Mac OS X is UNIX. It's the best of all *3* worlds.

[Alexander215]

Get a mac with windows vmware.  best of both worlds. 

Agreed.   I'm a long time Mac AND Windows guy, but whenever I have the choice, I go with Mac.  For certain things like MS Access or SAS, I have to use Windows.   I actually use Parallels, but VMWare is the same thing.  For games and such, you can even boot directly into Windows on any Mac and get the full performance out of the machine.  Macs may cost a little more, but the flexibility rocks.

Oh, and Mac OS X is UNIX. It's the best of all *3* worlds.

What do you mean by flexibility? The ability to dual boot? I tri-booted a friends laptop with XP, Ubuntu, and I believe mac's 10.4 OS back in 2006. I don't understand why people think they are enslaved to Mac's hardware. It's not easy to do, but it ain't hard. Google will find you lots of tutorials out there.

[Maltz]

Agreed.   I'm a long time Mac AND Windows guy, but whenever I have the choice, I go with Mac.  For certain things like MS Access or SAS, I have to use Windows.   I actually use Parallels, but VMWare is the same thing.  For games and such, you can even boot directly into Windows on any Mac and get the full performance out of the machine.  Macs may cost a little more, but the flexibility rocks.

Oh, and Mac OS X is UNIX. It's the best of all *3* worlds.

What do you mean by flexibility? The ability to dual boot? I tri-booted a friends laptop with XP, Ubuntu, and I believe mac's 10.4 OS back in 2006. I don't understand why people think they are enslaved to Mac's hardware. It's not easy to do, but it ain't hard. Google will find you lots of tutorials out there.

I like the Mac OS because in my experience, it's easier to get stuff done with minimal setup and tweaking.  So that is my OS of choice.  Other people have other preferences that work well for them, and that's cool.

But running Mac OS on non-Apple hardware requires a fair bit of the very tweaking and hacking I'm trying to avoid by using Mac OS in the first place.  And it has to be repeated for every system update.  Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy that kind of thing sometimes.  But on a hobby machine.  Not the machine I actually have to get things done with.  Being able to run Mac OS, and being able to run it trouble-free is worth something to me, so I go Apple.  All that said, hacking Mac OS X to run on your PC can be good way to introduce yourself to the OS, but for the long term, it kind of defeats the purpose.

Now, whether Apple should allow Mac OS on non-Apple hardware, well, I think that would be GREAT!  Especially now that they have their iPod/iPhone business to support the loss in Mac revenue.  But I'm not going to hold my breath for that as long as Steve Jobs is holding the reigns.