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mark mcguire on steroids? by b.driscoll on 11 Jan, 2010 19:07
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Say it isnt so, looks like BIG MAC became big with a little help from chemistry. It makes blood shoot out of my eyes to hear this arrogant prick come clean 5 years after he testified that he '' did not want to talk about the past''. Tony Larussa covered for him then and praises him now for being ''honest'' about his 'roid use. The cardinals should dump these two clowns.
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#1 by Razor X on 11 Jan, 2010 19:09
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Was this really news to anybody?
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#2 by parksie on 11 Jan, 2010 20:09
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It is done. I give him credit for coming clean with what he did. We all knew he did it. He wasnt the first and most likely wont be the last to admit to using performance enhancing drugs.
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#3 by Dome of Steele on 11 Jan, 2010 20:22
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Was this really news to anybody?
I don't think so RX. Only people gullible enough to believe that he wasn't on them. Especially after seeing how extreme his physical changes were. -
#4 by spiralout1123211 on 11 Jan, 2010 20:26
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Yeah, except he STILL hasn't owned up to the fact that it inflated his numbers. He says he only took it in tiny amounts, and not to bulk up, but to come back from injuries. Yeah, not buying it.
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#5 by cvasara on 11 Jan, 2010 20:36
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I think it was pure genius of LaRussa to bring him back to baseball. And give McGwire an avenue to 'fessup'. I would bet the farm that Mac wanted to find a way to tell the truth, and get back into baseball. I'm a St. Louis Cardinal fan, have been for near on 60 years, I'm not a McGwire fan, and doubt he can help the Cardinals much as a hitting coach, but if this is the way a door opens to these pre-Madonnas, then it is good for baseball and its good for the players. You can bet some of the others will step forward, Sosa, Palmero, Bonds, OK, maybe not Bonds, Clemens, maybe. And some of the others too, and all of that will be good for baseball.
Lets just hope that McGwire don't start trying to screw around with the League MVP. 'Big Mac' might even learn something from the 'real deal' -
#6 by Mikekoz13 on 12 Jan, 2010 04:57
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This isn't news..... everyone knew he did it. LaRussa has been a jack-ass for as long as i can remember and if anyone thinks he didn't know McGuire and other A's were juicing ..... well, open up your eyes.
The funny thing about all this to me is that Jose Canseco was the honest one in all of this. -
#7 by D.A.L.U.I. on 12 Jan, 2010 07:04
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MedicaL purposes, I don't think so unless he was being treated by an incompetent vet! Anabolic steriods have been approved in certain cases, wasting caused by cancer, but not during the time he talks about for sports injuries--that was the 60's after the chemicals had made it over from the old East German sports complex!
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#8 by Sooner Steve on 12 Jan, 2010 09:33
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First off, I do not endorse steroids in any fashion unless medically prescribed by a reputable physician. I have used a mild steroid previously for a certain illness.
Second, I give credit to anyone who admits they have made a mistake. I believe in the rule of forgive and forget. McGuire did not directly hurt me by his decision to use steorids. However, he did harm the integrity of baseball, a game that I love. I give him props for admitting his mistake.
However, I really think he "sugar coated" the situation by saying it did not directly affect his numbers. Bull Butter. In over 100 years of baseball, only one man had hit more than 60 homeruns and McGuire, Sosa and Bonds all pass that number into the 70's. Yeah, and my vehicle doesn't run better on gasoline than water.
Pure absurdity. ONe of two things happened (or maybe both) 1. Steroids allowed him to play more often because he recovered quicker or 2. Steroids made him stronger to hit the ball farther. 3. or BOTH.
As I said above, McGuire did not cheat me - he cheated every clean player out there who chose not to take steroids. Those are the people to whom he needs to apologize.
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#9 by D.A.L.U.I. on 12 Jan, 2010 09:47
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This is all a planned media event, whether it's well planned or not is another question. To see the details of how they are trying to "soft sell" the fans take a look at this article in today's New York Times. I just wonder how much this is costing and who pays the tab--probably the fan buying the ticket is my bet. But, "andro" was on the shelf at WalMart and a lot of guys had it as part of their supplements for working out. If there wasn't anything more than andro, then it wasn't part of any "medical" treatment by a doctor [see another article: http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/mark_mcgwire/index.html?inline=nyt-per.] Doctors would be required for the real steriods.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/sports/baseball/12sandomir.html?scp=2&sq=&st=nyt -
#10 by buddha on 12 Jan, 2010 10:51
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What I found most fake about what I saw of McGuire's admission before I changed channels in disgust is the teary-eyed bull$h!t that he came across with. Cowboy up, Marie, you took the $h!t, stick out your chin and admit it and get on with your life. If you are truly ashamed about using performance enhancers shut the eff up and suffer in silence. You weren't crying when your steroid shots were clearing left field walls all over the country, I'm not interested in it now.
That being said, I think that pro athletes out to be able to take whatever they want to enhance their performance. If I'm playing $350 for a club seat to watch an NFL game and my team has a 220 pound running back who the coach insists on running up the middle against a couple of 300 lb d-tackles, a couple of 275 lb d-ends, and 3-250 lb backers he's gonna have a long day. But.....you give that 220 pound halfback a bunch of steroids and a crapload of speed.....now you got a game! And that is what I paid my $350 for.
These guys are always whining about how short their $10 mil a year careers are so here's the choice.....shoot the 'roids or quit the game and get a regular job like the rest of us. -
#11 by Razor X on 13 Jan, 2010 15:23
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These guys are always whining about how short their $10 mil a year careers are so here's the choice.....shoot the 'roids or quit the game and get a regular job like the rest of us.
That's a false choice. Why should anybody, regardless of how much they're being paid, be required to inject themselves with cancer-causing chemicals to enhance their performance? Not to mention that it totally ruins the integrity of the game. -
#12 by Mikekoz13 on 13 Jan, 2010 18:20
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These guys are always whining about how short their $10 mil a year careers are so here's the choice.....shoot the 'roids or quit the game and get a regular job like the rest of us.
That's a false choice. Why should anybody, regardless of how much they're being paid, be required to inject themselves with cancer-causing chemicals to enhance their performance? Not to mention that it totally ruins the integrity of the game.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-Greed!!!!!! -
#13 by D.A.L.U.I. on 14 Jan, 2010 07:24
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These guys are always whining about how short their $10 mil a year careers
Buddha, I think you need to check the stats, the average pro doesn't earn anything like $10million a year. But that being accepted to use anabolic steroids and growth hormones shortens their lives--remember the late Lyle Alzado who attributed his fatal brain cancer to steroid use. $10 milion or $500,000 for three or four years--death in your early 40's, not a good bargain. -
#14 by buddha on 14 Jan, 2010 08:08
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I remember back in the 60s when the old Perry Mason show was on with Raymond Burr as Perry, the D. A.s name was Hamilton Burger, I don't remember the name of the actor. Anyway, he was a smoker who came down with lung cancer and was told by his doctor that he was going to die.....soon. So he made a commercial about the dangers of smoking. This was back in the 1960s! And yet people, myself included, are still puffin' away.
Alzado died in 1992, if I'm not mistaken, and there are other juicers who have died from the effects as well. So why do any of these people use steroids? Who knows, maybe they think that they'll be the one who'll beat the odds or maybe they just want to use enough to cut 0.4 seconds off their time in the 40. And for myself it is less than a concern because everybody makes choices every minute of every day. So some poor guy who only makes a half a million a year sitting on the bench for some NFL team thinks that he might move up to second string if he juices a little bit has made a choice in spite of the fact that he knows the risks. And I don't think he's evil for doing this, and I feel bad for his family when he dies or grows an eye in the middle of his forehead but I think it's important to remember that he made the choice. And even if it's a false choice he made it, no one held a gun to his head and no one threatened to stop paying him for playing sports for a living. And even if he would be fired for not juicing, as I said before, he could always get a real job like the rest of us. Then he wouldn't have to shell out so much money a year for bodyguards.