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Title: Religon
Post by: Mike on October 06, 2008, 10:10:43 AM
I was noticing that quite a few folks here go to church and I was just wondering what everyone's religion is.
 I am a Protestant, my church is used to be small but we have tripled in size in the last year. I am the only sly guy there, there are many many guys that need to go sly, they vary from big bald spots on the back of the head to horse shoes to bad comb overs. My Reverend has a bad comb over, he doesnt have much hair left and the hair that makes up his comb over is probably 10 inches long. Yesterday when service was over he stepped off the stage and tripped and fell. It was suprising seeing him fall and such but watching his comb over fly up, when he stood back up it was on the side of his head, the top of his head was shining. Once he was up he looked at me, now I am thinking he was looking at my dome. It would be hilarious if he is shaved next week, or makes up a fundraiser with the prize being a set of clippers to shave his dome.

 So what is everyones religion and do any of you have funny church stories?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: SlyHigh on October 06, 2008, 11:24:32 AM
I am Christian.  I go to a Methodist church.  My wife and I both play in the worship band.  She plays piano and sings, and I play bass and keyboard.  I'd rather play piano, but she gets to play all the time now.

I can't think of anything funny right now.  Playing music in churches for the past 10 years has had some interesting things happen.  Usually it's when things go wrong, like equipment failing or somebody playing in the wrong key or messing up really bad.  But I've found that when playing music in a church 99% of the time you mess up no one notices.

One time we were playing outside and I was using a cup of water as a paperweight for my music (dumb idea yeah).  Wind caught the cup and dumped it all in the keyboard.  Water was running out the ends.  It worked fine and we didn't tell the pastor until about 5 years later.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: schro on October 06, 2008, 11:52:58 AM
PLEASE NOTE: Discussions about religion are against the rules of the forum. However, after reading the first two posts, it appears it's more about stories than the plusses & minuses of each religion.

Please be respectful of others' faiths.

Schro
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Mikekoz13 on October 06, 2008, 12:04:08 PM
I'm a Christian and attend a Presbyterian Church...........
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: tomgallagher on October 06, 2008, 01:52:52 PM
I am a believer in Jesus Christ and attend the Methodist Church.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Mike on October 06, 2008, 01:59:43 PM
Sorry about that, I should have read the rules. I can delete this thread if needed. I was more interested in funny stories, sorry about that.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: schro on October 06, 2008, 02:08:03 PM
No sweat, Mike.
Just wanted to make sure the rules were noted.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: marshd1000 on October 06, 2008, 02:36:36 PM
Well, I am a Christian and I attend a Assembly of God church.  I am very active in my church and I'm a vocalist on the worship team. 

My church has a few Sly Guys in it.  I will show you a few pics of sly guys from my church.  We have a bit being a small church.

The first picture shows my friend Glenn, who is the head of recovery ministries at my church.  The next person is Edd, the ministry intern.  Then there is myself and my friend Bubba, who is a member of this group and was visiting from Idaho.

The next picture is of myself and Atlas.  I have to say that while Atlas is close to 60, I am sure that being sly makes him look younger.

The fourth pic is Edd, Jason, myself and Caleb.  So you can see that we need to wear blinders where I go to church.  The shine can be blinding!   ;D

The third pic is myself and Ray, my twin vocalist on the worship team.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: marshd1000 on October 06, 2008, 02:47:15 PM
Here is one more pic.  I have posted this and the others before.  It is of our former pastor, Tim, who is now in training to be a police officer.  I had encouraged him to be sly before and eventually he did!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: marshd1000 on October 06, 2008, 02:51:07 PM
Actually, here is a story.  It is not so much funny as it is cool.  I have a elderly friend at my church who recently had a stroke.  Before the stroke, I used to kid Don about shaving off his fringe.  So when I visited him after he had the stroke, I had kidded him about his longer fringe.  So he said, "So when are you going to give me a head shave!".  So the next time I was over, I gave him a head shave.  Next time I log on, I will post a pic of the event!  But he looked good with it!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Brkeatr on October 06, 2008, 02:59:07 PM
You got a bunch of nice looking bald heads in that church Marsh.....get some to join SBG   O0
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: SlyBaldDude on October 06, 2008, 04:54:59 PM
Interesting you should mention sly at church.  I am a Christian.  I go to a Baptist church.  There are about a 150 people there.  Until the last year or so I have been the only sly one.  There is one guy who shaves it down to zero on the shaver;  and another who shaves it sly from time to time and rather sloppily at that.  Then,  here last week there is this dude who has been gone off to college or something like that for a while.  He is early twenties,  had a good thick head of hair.  Shows up last week slick bald with a goatee!    I shook his hand and complimented his hair cut.  So now there are two of us that are BBC .. which is really kinda cool I think.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: marty22 on October 06, 2008, 07:32:04 PM
Jewish here; not a Temple goer and one of the few people I know of the Jewish persuasion that is bald. Shalom!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: SLYinKC on October 06, 2008, 07:42:37 PM
Christian here, also.  I've attended a Nazarene Church for the past 7 years.  Marsh, I grew up in an Assembly of God Church and graduated from one of their liberal arts universities.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: champ007 on October 06, 2008, 09:15:31 PM
Jewish here; not a Temple goer and one of the few people I know of the Jewish persuasion that is bald. Shalom!

Much respect Marty.  O:O
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Timmay on October 06, 2008, 10:37:54 PM
I am a Christian and I a member of Antioch Christian Church ( dont know if this allowed or not but give it a try... www.acclife.org ) We have over 1100 members.  We have attended ACC for about 5 years now but before that I was raised in a catholic church. 
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: don on October 06, 2008, 10:45:34 PM
I'm Catholic and I remember in grammar school we went to church around Christmas and one song we sang was "Oh Come All Ye Faithful" and when it came to the line "Oh come let us adore him" one of the kids in the back shreiked "Cockadoodle Doo. He thought no one could hear him over the singing but the nun heard him and when Mass was over and we left the church the nun beat him mercilessly.

On another occasion we had to all stand in line to go to confession and when this one kid was in the confession box,a classmate of his reached underneath and pulled him out of the confessional by his legs.The Chinese priest then came out of the confessional and started yelling at the kids. It was so funny.I could tell you lots of stories about school and church.LOL.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: slyinglide on October 06, 2008, 11:30:20 PM
I was born in a Catholic Hospital, taught in elementary Catholic School, went for 1 year to a Catholic High School, and I go to a Baptist Church......

I would like to sing in the Choir, but they pay me cash not to......Can't blame them , I can't sing a lick...

I do go around to the elderly and disabled members, or whom ever else needs minor, and some major work done on their homes and try to help.. materials payed for by the church, and with donations from a couple of hardware and lumber places in town.

I do need to find a paint store that would be willing to donate some paint..........

Our church also cuts and splits about 250 cord of wood a year and give it to people for heat in their homes......

I am by no means a bible thumper, and as far as religion goes I feel that is between them and THEIR GOD......I just like helping people, even if I just go and talk to them when their lonely.......I've been there.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Mike on October 07, 2008, 09:03:46 AM
Wow, its nice to see the different religions represented here. In our little town of 3000 people we have about 7 or 8 churches, the newest church is a Laestadian Luhran church, their group started with about 5 people from the East coast and they started building a church and now have over 200 members, its always nice to see a new place so accepted.
 The one thing I love about church is that I always feel so good afterwards. When I was younger we used to go to a Mormom church with my father and every once in a while we would go to the Catholic church with my mother. Even when I was younger I always felt great after church.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: tomgallagher on October 07, 2008, 09:05:16 AM
A town of 3000 with 7 or 8 churches...Dang.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: time2shine on October 07, 2008, 09:41:48 AM
Christian here.  I attend a church called Mars Hill.  Mars Hill can be described as culturally liberal, but scripturally conservative.  I like the pastor because he teaches the bible in a way that's up front and not sugar coated.  Unfortunately, this place isn't the place to go if you're into the traditional culture.  The music is super contemporary, and bands cycle in and out each week with original music.
It's a breath of fresh air for me because I grew up in churches where you had to say the right thing, and there seemed to be an aura of judgementalness.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Mikekoz13 on October 07, 2008, 09:53:48 AM
I think part of what the responses in this thread shows is this:

You should go to Church where you are most comfortable.... it has to be a good fit for YOU if it's going to be Home for you.

I was in and out of two or three different types of Churches before I settled on the Presbyterian Church.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: The Zook on October 07, 2008, 10:32:39 AM
Humanist here! Finally figured out there was a name for my way of 'not believing' after a few years of coming to terms with it.

My wife is Christian and our kids are being raised that way as well. For me it was a huge weight lifted off my shoulders to be free to tell others and not feel ashamed or that I would be seen as 'evil'.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Timmay on October 07, 2008, 01:01:15 PM
LuckyMan...you are just full of evil  LOL  No one should ever be afraid to express his beliefs.  I am glad this thread has went as smooth as it has
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: captain blackleg on October 07, 2008, 01:19:27 PM
I grew up Christian but as I grew up I realized how awful the people in my church were, I stopped going at the age of 17. My parents also stopped. In college I took the opportunity to study a lot of religion and after a bit of a personal struggle came to the conclusion that I'm just not meant to be a true believer of any faith. I have a great respect for all religion as far as the history and literary significance is concerned. I also dig the fact it helps many people in their lives.

For myself however I find it all more of a subject of interest rather than a belief structure I live my life by.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 07, 2008, 04:23:44 PM
Grew up in the Church of God (Pentecostal). I left church due to some disallusionment I had in my late teens and other than weddings or funerals I did not attend church for over 20 years. We now attend a non-denominational church that while having the traditional Christian message, it is one of the least judgemental churches I have attended. Our motto is "reaching people across the street and around the world." Sunday morning music is more like a rock concert and suits and ties have been traded for bermuda shorts, tshirts or as my pastor says....."we don't care how you come just make sure the essentials are covered up".  That being said I respect other traditions and without going into detail alot of "healing" I needed in the last few years came via New Thought teachings from individuals you may or may not have heard of...Dr. Wayne Dyer, Louise Hay, Echardt Tolle..to name a few.   
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 07, 2008, 04:33:43 PM
Witty Quotes Haven: Church Bulletin
1.  "Don't let worry kill you -- let the church help."
2.  Seen On a Church Bulletin: Thursday at 5:00 PM there will be a meeting of the Little Mothers Club. All ladies wishing to be "Little Mothers" will meet with the Pastor in his private study.
3.  "This being Easter Sunday, we will ask Mrs. Lewis to come forward and lay an egg on the altar."
4.  Scouts are saving aluminum cans, bottles, and other items to be recycled. Proceeds will be used to cripple children.
5.  Weight Watchers' will meet at 7 PM. Please use the double door at the side entrance.
6.  The eighth graders will be presenting Shakespeare's "Hamlet" in the church basement on Friday at 7 p.m. The congregation is invited to attend this tragedy.
7.  The Rev. Adams spoke briefly, much to the delight of his audience.
8.  Tuesday at 4:00 PM there will be an ice cream social. All ladies giving milk will please come early.
9.  "Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our church and community."
10.  The service will close with "Little Drops of Water." One of the ladies will start quietly and the rest of the congregation will join in
11.  The Low Self-Esteem Support Group will meet Thursday at 7 to 8:30 PM. Please use the back door.
12.  During a Minister's Illness: "God is good - Dr. Hargreaves is better."
13.  "For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery downstairs."
14.  Pastor is on vacation. Massages can be given to the church secretary.
15.  The rosebud on the altar this morning is to announce the birth of David Alan Belzer, the sin of Rev. and Mrs. Julius Belzer.
16.  The preacher will preach his farewell message, after which the choir will sing, "Break Forth With Joy."
17.  Next Sunday a special collection will be taken to defray the cost of the new carpet. All those wishing to do something on the new carpet will come forward and do so.
18.  "This afternoon there will be a meeting in the South and North ends of the church. Children will be baptized at both ends."
19.  The choir invites any member of the congregation who enjoys sinning to join the choir.
20.  "Thursday night - Potluck supper. Prayer and medication to follow."
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Brkeatr on October 07, 2008, 04:54:45 PM
LOL....they are funny !!   :*)) :*))
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: tomgallagher on October 07, 2008, 05:01:15 PM
"The message board is broken. Come inside for his message."
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: marshd1000 on October 07, 2008, 07:29:53 PM
Christian here.  I attend a church called Mars Hill.  Mars Hill can be described as culturally liberal, but scripturally conservative.  I like the pastor because he teaches the bible in a way that's up front and not sugar coated.  Unfortunately, this place isn't the place to go if you're into the traditional culture.  The music is super contemporary, and bands cycle in and out each week with original music.
It's a breath of fresh air for me because I grew up in churches where you had to say the right thing, and there seemed to be an aura of judgementalness.

I agree that Mars Hill is a great church.  While I don't attend there, I like a lot of what they do. I do occasionally visit.  One of their branches is 5 min down the street from my home.  Eventually, Time2Shine and myself plan to finally meet and go to a service there together.

In my first post on this subject, I should have put down the website for my church.  It is called Neighborhood Life Center.  It is in the suburb of SeaTac near the airport.  It has a great bunch of people!  www.nlcic.org .
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: marshd1000 on October 07, 2008, 07:33:41 PM
LuckyMan...you are just full of evil  LOL  No one should ever be afraid to express his beliefs.  I am glad this thread has went as smooth as it has

I agree!  I have always believed in the concept of "agreeing to disagree agreeable".  I believe often people can be turned off by faith (Christian or otherwise) by the poor behavior of some of the "faithful".  If the world could emulate the good behavior that has been found in this thread, it would be a better place!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: skiking on October 07, 2008, 07:56:17 PM
I am not quite sure of my denomination ( it isn't real important to me, I feel the message is the same).   Anyways, my story.  One time when I was 13 or 14, we were sitting in church, and during the entire sermon, the pastor's fly was open and nobody managed to mention it.  After the sermon, he came into the youth group (fly still open), and I asked him if he knew his fly was still open during the sermon.  He turned beet red and told me "no, nobody mentioned it after the service".

He was also my baseball coach, and I managed to give him grief for a few years afterward.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Timmay on October 07, 2008, 10:17:50 PM
LOL....
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Razor X on October 07, 2008, 10:20:34 PM
I am not quite sure of my denomination ( it isn't real important to me, I feel the message is the same).   

Doesn't it say on the sign outside?   ???
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Timmay on October 07, 2008, 10:23:36 PM
I will have to comment on that Razor....excuse me for a second.  Church can be anywhere.  Actually Church is where two or more people congregate together and talk about God ( and that would work for your choice of who/what you worship) So in a sense, even though we arent specifically talking about teh God I worship in here....this could be CHURCH..right?  And only sign I see on the door is SBG.....hmmmm Sly Bald "God"?  LOL
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 08, 2008, 03:27:54 AM
If you ever care to visit our website it is:

www.carolinaforest.org
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Timmay on October 08, 2008, 07:01:37 AM
cool site hammer.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: marshd1000 on October 08, 2008, 07:02:17 AM
My church meets in a elementary school, so we don't currently don't have our own building. My pastor says that the building is NOT the church.  He says, "You ARE the church so BE the church!".    O0
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: marshd1000 on October 08, 2008, 07:04:14 AM
If you ever care to visit our website it is:

www.carolinaforest.org

Your children's pastor looks like he should go sly!    :)
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: skiking on October 08, 2008, 09:00:03 AM
I am not quite sure of my denomination ( it isn't real important to me, I feel the message is the same).   

Doesn't it say on the sign outside?   ???

we meet at a grange hall
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: IRONHORSE on October 08, 2008, 09:20:54 AM
*Gives a high five to everyone who's posted in here, so far* When I saw this topic created, I thought to myself "This one has potential for becoming a major flame war!" And I haven't even seen a wisp of smoke so far...God job, everybody! O0
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: time2shine on October 08, 2008, 09:26:26 AM
God job, everybody! O0

 :*)) :*))
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Mike on October 08, 2008, 09:48:34 AM
I am glad that it has gone so smoothly also.
 The church I go to was the first one in the area. It used to be a small building, then with so many members they literally doubled the size. It is the classic looking church with a bell tower and all. Most of the other churches in town look like just another building. The high school art class comes and they do paintings of it every fall because of the wonderful fall colors all around and the classic old look to it.
 Thanks again everyone for letting this go so smoothly.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Timmay on October 08, 2008, 09:50:58 AM
*Gives a high five to everyone who's posted in here, so far* When I saw this topic created, I thought to myself "This one has potential for becoming a major flame war!" And I haven't even seen a wisp of smoke so far...God job, everybody! O0

Because there comes a time when we all need to be adults about it.  Its America...alot of different cultures here...but we all stand or squat at the toilet the same way...at least I hope.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 08, 2008, 02:29:30 PM
If you ever care to visit our website it is:

www.carolinaforest.org

Your children's pastor looks like he should go sly!    :)

I agree..been encouraging him to. There are alot of SLY guys who attend there.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 08, 2008, 02:33:59 PM
*Gives a high five to everyone who's posted in here, so far* When I saw this topic created, I thought to myself "This one has potential for becoming a major flame war!" And I haven't even seen a wisp of smoke so far...God job, everybody! O0

Because there comes a time when we all need to be adults about it.  Its America...alot of different cultures here...but we all stand or squat at the toilet the same way...at least I hope.

Thats right. .there is such a thing of agreeing to disagree with out being disagreeable.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: The Zook on October 08, 2008, 02:45:05 PM
Wait, what are people agreeing on... that I'm full of evil!?  :*))

>:D
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 08, 2008, 02:46:07 PM
cool site hammer.

Thanks TimmJ
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 08, 2008, 02:58:50 PM
Hey..Just thought you SLY Guy dads might like to see this. All I can say is be prepared..It will definately make you want to grab your kids and tell them how much you love them...pretty strong message it it too not just for dads but everyone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIim2Hvz0sE
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: herronm on October 08, 2008, 03:07:52 PM
OK, it seems safe to jump into the water.  

I attend an Independent Baptist Church (a little bit different from Southern Baptist – mostly in how we manage missionary work).  We average about 500 for Sunday morning service, have a great children’s ministry, active adults and growing in new members and salvations.

I was saved late in life and have some different experiences from most of my church family.  I have been a musician most of my life and have seen and done things that would shock some.  However, it does enable me to communicate with some people who have never set foot in a church of any kind.  I truly believe that God can use anyone who is willing.  I don’t agree with all the church rules and doctrines, but I think that is OK too.

Church is kind of like our SBG family.  We are made up of all kinds of backgrounds, different ages, and nationalities.  We all seem to truly care for each other and that is what I really like about the site that Tyler made.

Max
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: GASlick on October 08, 2008, 08:29:43 PM
I am so Methodist!

It is said that our family used to follow John Wesley around England.  My ancestors have founded many Methodist churches here in Georgia.  Currently I attend one of those big 'ol traditional churches  www.griffin-fumc.org

I play the organ occasionally and have served on just about every committee there is.  Currently I am chair of the Evangelism comm. where we focus on outreach and community involvement.  I don't really care what denomination anyone is.  Go to where you can get what you need.  That's my bottom line on religion.

I am the son of a Methodist preacher and I have recently began to explore my own call to ministry with my pastor, my family and some close friends (what's up wannabepadre?).  Wow, life is a journey.  I thought at age 37, I would be on cruise control by now. LOL  I also have a blog that I update sporadically if you're interested.  http://griffinevangelism.blogspot.com

Peace and love to all.

Title: Re: Religon
Post by: GASlick on October 08, 2008, 08:32:17 PM
Oh yeah!  One more thing.  If you go to the church website I have been trying to get our associate to go sly.

He needs it bad.  Do it Geoff!!!!!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: NWTRNR on October 08, 2008, 08:53:44 PM
I'm not a member of any church right now -- probly due to too much as a kid! -- anyway, someone sent me this quiz awhile back that I thought was kinda cool -- basically it matches your personal beliefs with those of the different religions out there and lets you know with which ones you're a closest match.

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html (http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html)
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: SlyHigh on October 09, 2008, 07:45:48 AM
I am so Methodist!

I play the organ occasionally and have served on just about every committee there is.
Methodist churches sure do like committees.  My wife is on a committee to nominate new members for the other committees.  At my previous church the pastor asked why I missed a committee meeting.  Oh, by the way, he forgot to tell me I was on the committee.

I also play music at my church.  The organ would be fun, but I don't think the old organ lady would like the style I would want to play.  I play bass, keyboard, and piano in our modern service.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: tomgallagher on October 09, 2008, 08:59:33 AM
We like covered dish socials as well.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Mikekoz13 on October 09, 2008, 09:09:23 AM
Hey..Just thought you SLY Guy dads might like to see this. All I can say is be prepared..It will definately make you want to grab your kids and tell them how much you love them...pretty strong message it it too not just for dads but everyone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIim2Hvz0sE

John-

Great video.......... This is exatly the kind of thing I worry about as a Dad. Every night before they go to bed, I take each of my kids individually, hug them tight, look them right in the eye and tell them how much I love them. I just want them to know that there is someone always there for them.
Plus.... you never know what could happen...... If God takes me home unexpeectedly I want them to know without a doubt that Daddy loved them more than anything.
This is also the reson I've become an advisor for our Church's middl school youth program. I know that some kids just don;t get what they need at home..... and maybe I can help just one...........
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: baldy46 on October 09, 2008, 09:59:48 AM
Just found this discussion.  Great posts guys!  I'm a Christian and attend Generations Christian Church in Tarpon Springs.   My wife is also on the staff there, and I'm currently praying about whether God is calling me into full-time ministry.  I play keyboards, sing on our worship teams and frequently lead some of our worship services. 

We have a ton of baldies, from the senior minister to several guys on the worship team.  We get teased a lot that lights on the stage bounce off our shiny domes and blind the congregation.  I try to avoid using HeadLube on Sunday mornings to keep the shine down!  LOL. 
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Timmay on October 09, 2008, 11:18:53 AM
Hey..Just thought you SLY Guy dads might like to see this. All I can say is be prepared..It will definately make you want to grab your kids and tell them how much you love them...pretty strong message it it too not just for dads but everyone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIim2Hvz0sE

John-

Great video.......... This is exatly the kind of thing I worry about as a Dad. Every night before they go to bed, I take each of my kids individually, hug them tight, look them right in the eye and tell them how much I love them. I just want them to know that there is someone always there for them.
Plus.... you never know what could happen...... If God takes me home unexpeectedly I want them to know without a doubt that Daddy loved them more than anything.
This is also the reson I've become an advisor for our Church's middl school youth program. I know that some kids just don;t get what they need at home..... and maybe I can help just one...........

I found that video vary hard to watch.  Even though I believe I am raising my kids to know that we are always there for them and to never be afraid to talk to us about anything, there will always be that fear of " What if I failed".  I have a daughter who is turning 15 on sunday and at times I feel for her.  It is tough growing up in todays world.  She doesnt get the lovey dubby affection from me anymore like my youngest daughter who is only 8.  I do let her know that I still love her very much and give her the attention that she needs. I know my wife is doing a good job in raising them as well.  My daughter talks to Kris about alot of things and she doesnt exclude me out of those.  I prefer her to talk to her mom about the girl things, but she will talk to me about it afterwards. 

It is just always going to be the   " WHAT IF" thing with me.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: PBurke on October 09, 2008, 12:21:27 PM
one of my closest friends introduced me to that band this week while i was off. awesome band. great messages in their music.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 09, 2008, 04:38:20 PM
Yes..unfortunately I missed them last week. They were in town. Casting Crowns, Third Day and Hillsong are just a few of my favorite contemporary christian music groups.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 09, 2008, 04:51:00 PM
Hey..Just thought you SLY Guy dads might like to see this. All I can say is be prepared..It will definately make you want to grab your kids and tell them how much you love them...pretty strong message it it too not just for dads but everyone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIim2Hvz0sE

John-

Great video.......... This is exatly the kind of thing I worry about as a Dad. Every night before they go to bed, I take each of my kids individually, hug them tight, look them right in the eye and tell them how much I love them. I just want them to know that there is someone always there for them.
Plus.... you never know what could happen...... If God takes me home unexpeectedly I want them to know without a doubt that Daddy loved them more than anything.
This is also the reson I've become an advisor for our Church's middl school youth program. I know that some kids just don;t get what they need at home..... and maybe I can help just one...........

I found that video vary hard to watch.  Even though I believe I am raising my kids to know that we are always there for them and to never be afraid to talk to us about anything, there will always be that fear of " What if I failed".  I have a daughter who is turning 15 on sunday and at times I feel for her.  It is tough growing up in todays world.  She doesnt get the lovey dubby affection from me anymore like my youngest daughter who is only 8.  I do let her know that I still love her very much and give her the attention that she needs. I know my wife is doing a good job in raising them as well.  My daughter talks to Kris about alot of things and she doesnt exclude me out of those.  I prefer her to talk to her mom about the girl things, but she will talk to me about it afterwards. 

It is just always going to be the   " WHAT IF" thing with me.

Man do I KNOW what you mean. We have one daughter and she is almost 17. She is really quick witted and very funny. There seems to be a never ending supply of boys calling her and with some of them I really have to restrain being tooooo judgemental. For some reason she prefers the punk or gothic type guys and that is wayyyyyyyyyyyy out of the box for me.  But after getting to know some of them its really sad what goes on at their own homes which is basically nothing. No interaction..no love and no father figure to look up to in many case case the bum left. One of the best compliments I got awhile back was from one of her girlfriends. She told me she loved coming to our house because we had rules and that ment we cared and she wished it was like that in her home.   It's tough being a dad. Especially in these days. I know there are alot of days I look back and think..Man I should have done this with her or said that to her...and of course there I things I regret I said. Right now she is having alot of challenges in school
but her mother and I have drilled into her that no matter what she can come to either of us with her problems. I guess that video means alot to me because while I don't like to think about it, the possibility of her messing around and getting pregnant,  I always want her to know if she messes up that she never has to be afraid of her mother or me. 
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: GASlick on October 09, 2008, 05:17:05 PM
Yes, we do like our committees. 

My dad always said when you get a bunch of Methodists together three things WILL happen -  Eat, Pray and take up an offering.

As far as the little old organ lady, we have a OB/GYN that is on staff.  He is very good, but when I play all bets are off.  I like to get that organ strung out!  I've got over 2800 pipes and by golly, we gonna have church!   ;D  I also get in there two or three days a week and practice.  It's my stress relief.  Loud and Proud!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Sgt. Pate on October 09, 2008, 08:33:58 PM
Christian... nuff said.  O0
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: wpruitt on October 09, 2008, 08:34:58 PM
There is something about little old ladies and not using the organ to its full capacity.  Last time I saw our organist using anything but the lower two manuals, it was because the organ was dying and she could not get a sound out of one of them.

If the Methodist had been in charge of "The Last Supper", we would be taking communion today with ice tea and casseroles!

As far as the little old organ lady, we have a OB/GYN that is on staff.  He is very good, but when I play all bets are off.  I like to get that organ strung out!  I've got over 2800 pipes and by golly, we gonna have church!   ;D  I also get in there two or three days a week and practice.  It's my stress relief.  Loud and Proud!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Robmeister on October 13, 2008, 09:16:47 AM
*Gives a high five to everyone who's posted in here, so far* When I saw this topic created, I thought to myself "This one has potential for becoming a major flame war!" And I haven't even seen a wisp of smoke so far...God job, everybody! O0

Yes....GREAT JOB yooz guyz !!

Bible-believing, Spirit-filled Christian here too.  Grew up Roman Catholic.  Radically saved in 1991 after the music biz left me flat on my back in a rehab center for alcohol and cocaine.  Got my degree in Theology in 1997 and went on to graduate studies in Theology.  Switched my graduate major to MBA studies in Accounting and Finance in 1999....been in corporate finance ever since.

Been members of Baptist Churches, Presbyterian Churches and non-denominational churches since '91....playing the drums on their worship teams.  All VERY GOOD BIBLE-TEACHING churches.   Now attend Calvary Chapel of South Denver (non-denominational).
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: tomgallagher on October 13, 2008, 09:55:06 AM


If the Methodist had been in charge of "The Last Supper", we would be taking communion today with ice tea and casseroles!

As far as the little old organ lady, we have a OB/GYN that is on staff.  He is very good, but when I play all bets are off.  I like to get that organ strung out!  I've got over 2800 pipes and by golly, we gonna have church!   ;D  I also get in there two or three days a week and practice.  It's my stress relief.  Loud and Proud!

LOL..U R right. It probably would have been a covered dish affair.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: StumpyDave on October 16, 2008, 07:06:08 AM
I'm an atheist and not ashamed of it.
People need to get through life and cope with things in their own ways.  I don't care what theology anyone believes, we're all people and we all deserve respect and compassion.
I think that the biggest thing that I got taught (at school, at home, wherever) was that people should be kind and considerate towards each other and help out in any way possible, wherever and whenever you can.
I plan to live life, enjoy it, and help others to enjoy theirs as best I can.  I'm not gonna get a second shot at it so I may as well do my best now.

I was expelled from Sunday School at 5 years old.  My mother was politely asked not to bring me back as I asked too many questions!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Brkeatr on October 16, 2008, 09:06:07 AM


I was expelled from Sunday School at 5 years old.  My mother was politely asked not to bring me back as I asked too many questions!


 Dave, I think that's a shame that happened to you, especially at 5 years old . Enough said.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: herronm on October 16, 2008, 11:11:55 AM
I think that the biggest thing that I got taught (at school, at home, wherever) was that people should be kind and considerate towards each other and help out in any way possible, wherever and whenever you can.
I plan to live life, enjoy it, and help others to enjoy theirs as best I can.  I'm not gonna get a second shot at it so I may as well do my best now.


Love your neighbor like yourself.  Doesn't matter who said it or where it came from.  Sometimes in my deep thoughts, I think no one is right and no one is wrong.

Max
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: StumpyDave on October 16, 2008, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: Brkeatr
Dave, I think that's a shame that happened to you, especially at 5 years old . Enough said.

Maybe, but don't feel sorry for me.  I'm the product of all of my experiences and decisions throughout my life and I happen to be pretty happy with who/what/where I am.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 16, 2008, 04:39:18 PM
I'm an atheist and not ashamed of it.
People need to get through life and cope with things in their own ways.  I don't care what theology anyone believes, we're all people and we all deserve respect and compassion.
I think that the biggest thing that I got taught (at school, at home, wherever) was that people should be kind and considerate towards each other and help out in any way possible, wherever and whenever you can.
I plan to live life, enjoy it, and help others to enjoy theirs as best I can.  I'm not gonna get a second shot at it so I may as well do my best now.

I was expelled from Sunday School at 5 years old.  My mother was politely asked not to bring me back as I asked too many questions!

Stumpy..your answer about being considerate, helping others out, etc., is actually more spiritual then most people find in many churches today.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: wpruitt on October 16, 2008, 05:28:53 PM
Stumpy..your answer about being considerate, helping others out, etc., is actually more spiritual then most people find in many churches today.
Remember - A house of worship is a hospital and not a home for saints
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 16, 2008, 06:07:20 PM
very well said
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: GASlick on October 16, 2008, 06:13:25 PM
Excellent point pruitt.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: marshd1000 on October 16, 2008, 07:17:23 PM
I'm an atheist and not ashamed of it.
People need to get through life and cope with things in their own ways.  I don't care what theology anyone believes, we're all people and we all deserve respect and compassion.
I think that the biggest thing that I got taught (at school, at home, wherever) was that people should be kind and considerate towards each other and help out in any way possible, wherever and whenever you can.
I plan to live life, enjoy it, and help others to enjoy theirs as best I can.  I'm not gonna get a second shot at it so I may as well do my best now.

I was expelled from Sunday School at 5 years old.  My mother was politely asked not to bring me back as I asked too many questions!

Stumpy..your answer about being considerate, helping others out, etc., is actually more spiritual then most people find in many churches today.

That is a sad but true commentary.  Hopefully the churchgoing folks are not in that category!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Brkeatr on October 17, 2008, 05:26:53 PM
I was driving across Canada in Feb of 1974 from British Columbia to NY and got snowed in at Moosejaw....lol.....
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Alexander215 on October 25, 2008, 11:44:11 AM
I believe in myself, I account to only myself, I deal with my problems and I don't need any deity for guidance or help. And the fundamental laws of nature, physics etc.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: D.A.L.U.I. on October 25, 2008, 12:32:50 PM
Episcopalian, born to a non-practicing Roman Catholic father and a Lutheran mother, baptised Lutheran, and confirmed as an Episcopalian in college after attending a Roman Catholic boarding schoorl.  Married a Roman Catholic, our girls went to Episcopalian schools, one just married in the Roman church, and the other professes to be an agnostic, but would be Jewish if she had to pick a religion.  Sort of a gumbo, and   that makes sense living in New Orleans!  The smartest and most moral man I ever worked with was a Muslim, and my friendship with him has led me to understand his religion from an outsider's point of view--and it isn't a bad religion at all in the sense that it can lead people to live a moral life fully respecting others.  All religions, and I mean all, have elements that are totally contrary to the purposes of their professed sects.  That behavior speaks to the man, not the religion in my opinion.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 25, 2008, 03:11:23 PM
I believe in myself, I account to only myself, I deal with my problems and I don't need any deity for guidance or help. And the fundamental laws of nature, physics etc.

If that works for you..fantastic. Everyone has a deity they worship..even if its the one in the mirror.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: JohnMont on October 25, 2008, 08:54:03 PM


to each his own?    ( ok )

Truth is Relative ?   ( NO )
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: marshd1000 on October 25, 2008, 09:14:41 PM
I am so glad that for the most part, this subject has been pretty peaceful and respectful.  While I do believe the truths of the Bible and am not ashamed of my faith in Jesus Christ, I do believe that God calls me to be respectful to all people.  While I don't believe that truth is relative, I do  believe that all have the right to believe in what they believe.  I believe in agreeing to disagree agreeably.  I do believe that for those of faith and those who don't, that is the proper way to behave!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: PBurke on October 25, 2008, 09:26:51 PM
I believe in myself, I account to only myself, I deal with my problems and I don't need any deity for guidance or help. And the fundamental laws of nature, physics etc.

then why was this thread of any interest to you at all; except to dismay the contributors with your lack of faith ?



easy john mont. that is not cool. you seem to be questioning his beleifs. noone has questioned the things you do or believe. just asking you to tread lightly here. shdwwlk has said nothing negative about anyone else on this thread and should get the same respect. we have kept this one cool so far. it seems to be about what each individual thinks. not questioning what someone else thinks. please just watch it guys.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: JohnMont on October 26, 2008, 01:10:41 AM

shdwwlk  IS making a subtle slam on faith.   In a thread that asks about people's faith; he makes a point of saying he has none. 

I'm saying the same thing Marshall is saying; he's just a little bit more wordy.  But basically; Marshall is saying; like I am; that those who have not faith or belief in God are wrong  (truth is not relative)

to have faith is to deny the modern notion (around since the 18th century ) that "it's all about me."

Sorry if that is not "cool" .

Title: Re: Religon
Post by: TheSlyBear on October 26, 2008, 01:15:12 AM
In a thread that asks about people's faith; he makes a point of saying he has none. 
I don't see why that's a problem.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: JohnMont on October 26, 2008, 01:21:20 AM
In a thread that asks about people's faith; he makes a point of saying he has none. 
I don't see why that's a problem.

what if it was a thread on "what's your favorite movie" and someone wrote;  "i don't watch movies; I don't need movies."   ...   yeah ; there's no  'problem'; but ; what's the point?
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: PBurke on October 26, 2008, 02:37:21 AM
what aout, "JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED"?  marsh did not say that shdwwlk was WRONG. he simply said he disagreed with him. the rules are inplace for a reason man. i as a moderator, i have opinions that differ from others, pretty often. but that just means we feel differently. that does not make me right or the other person wrong. all i was saying was DO NOT JUDGE HIM. HE IS NOT JUDGING YOU.  and in my (raised catholic incatholic schools. and does not go to church for personal reasons now) opinion, not judging your fellow man for disagreeing with you, is more christian than saying he is WRONG for not beleiving what i beleive. we can have debates for days on end about about who is right and wrong. but the truth of the matter is this. i have to answer for me and you have to answer for you. us arguing who is right won't cause anything but strife and tension. if you don't like the fact that you can't debate this, then stay away from this topic. i have until now. if anyone has questions, please PM me or the other mods. any of us will be glad to help. as for personal beliefs, ask that person in private. hell i will explain myself if you wanna know. just be respectful of others.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: tomgallagher on October 26, 2008, 08:19:24 AM
Somehow I knew it wouldn't last.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 26, 2008, 08:36:41 AM
Ok guys...lets all just get along here. The idea is about "respecting" each others beliefs and opinions. Now I know the word "respect" is a wee little too big for some people to comprehend especially those with the "i'm right..your wrong" way of thinking. I have found that people who have a NEED to be right are that way usually because of their own lack of self confidence in themselves and what they claim to believe. Positive debate is one thing but if we allow ourselves to decend into avenues of judgement of each others beliefs or lifestyles what are we accomplishing? In short nothing. People have the right to believe what they want or not believe at all.  Either way we should each respect what others opinions and not tear each other down. There is already ENOUGH of that in the world.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: The Zook on October 26, 2008, 11:42:26 AM
This is why religion is the cause of so many battles. Some people just can't accept that others could possibly have different beliefs or non-beliefs. Just because you feel one way does not mean it's right, sorry... but there's a lot of varying opinions out there in the world and every one of them think they are right.

I'm a humanist but my wife and kids are catholic and believe in god... fine with me! :)

Have a Coke and a smile, then go shave...
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: time2shine on October 26, 2008, 11:49:18 AM
Somehow I knew it wouldn't last.

:) i agree.  fun while it lasted, tho.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: TheSlyBear on October 26, 2008, 12:06:14 PM
To the question "What's your religion?", for those that don't believe I think "none" is a perfectly acceptable answer. Why that should offend anyone is beyond me.

John, I think that you are taking needless offense where not warranted.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Alexander215 on October 26, 2008, 12:48:12 PM
Somehow I knew it wouldn't last.

Sorry, I didn't mean to start a sh!tstorm
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Brkeatr on October 26, 2008, 12:52:13 PM
Somehow I knew it wouldn't last.

Sorry, I didn't mean to start a sh!tstorm

LOL....don't worry about it bro....2 things that shouldn't be discussed among friends are religion and politics ......I'm sure everyones fine .... O0
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 26, 2008, 12:55:42 PM
Somehow I knew it wouldn't last.

Sorry, I didn't mean to start a sh!tstorm

I don't think you did or at least I don't honestly think that was your intent at all. As I said before, we all need to respect each others beliefs and opinions no matter what faith one believes or even if one does not believe at all  .
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: calbito on October 26, 2008, 07:34:58 PM
I'm Episcopalian.  Before that Lutheran (every letter combination   :/O ).  Before that (child) Roman Catholic.  If somebody asks me if I'm Catholic or Protestant I say "yes".  ;D  A funny story was when I was elder in a German (Mo. Synod) Lutheran congregation.  We were having communion and it was my job to pass out the consecrated Bread to the congregation.  We used the wafers just like the Roman Catholics do.  Anyway the priest had consecrated some on a sort of elevated platen and in the past that was always enough.  Well we had an unusually high attendance that Sunday and I saw that I was soon going to run out of wafers.  So I did the best thing I could think of and started breaking them in half giving everyone half a wafer.  I didn't know until after church that there was a whole ciborium (a covered bowl) of consecrated wafers on the altar.  :P  Well anyway after church we had a voters meeting where we were discussing the budget and someone said "Look I know money is tight but are we so poor that we can't afford a whole wafer for communion?".  :*)) :*))
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: wpruitt on October 26, 2008, 08:25:35 PM
Calbito - Sounds like a United Methodist Admin Council Meeting.  I had a great-aunt who, during the Great Depression, was responsible for the elements at communion (grape juice and diced bread).  She would always take the leftover bread home on Communion Sunday for either a bread pudding or stuffing (to the horror of the them pastor).  She told him, "Waste not, want not"!!!!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: xnewyawka on October 28, 2008, 05:47:12 PM
To the question "What's your religion?", for those that don't believe I think "none" is a perfectly acceptable answer. Why that should offend anyone is beyond me.

John, I think that you are taking needless offense where not warranted.

Simple, and true, Bear. Religion is a personal thing, and each person is going to have their own beliefs and views. You are sounding very opinionated Johnmont.
To try and make someone believe your choice and preference is the be all end all, and try and cram it down their throat is not the way to go. Yes, there are some fanatics out there as we all know.
But as one of the other bro's basically said, let's live and let live.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: timorousme on October 29, 2008, 02:26:52 PM
I didn't bother reading through the whole thread (I know, it's annoying when people do that), but any other Buddhists on the board?
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: The Zook on October 29, 2008, 02:31:38 PM
Please respect my beliefs !

Oh, I do... could you please respect mine in return?

And please... do NOT grieve or feel sorry for me, save it for someone who needs it - I'm doing GREAT! :)
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 29, 2008, 04:27:26 PM
Ok gentlemen....PLEASE go to your corners.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: DaddySir4 on October 29, 2008, 04:54:25 PM
Religion is a deeply personal matter and we should all just state our beliefs and not comment on others, unless you agree with a specific person ans then direct your comment directly to them. If you disagree with someone's religion or lack of it be respectful and keep your opinion to yourself.
So...hows the weather?
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: NWTRNR on October 29, 2008, 04:57:18 PM
Perhaps it's a good time to say goodbye to this thread? Moderators?
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 29, 2008, 05:07:18 PM
I think its ok to keep it open..but agan...respectful ...but also respect the moderators postions as well.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: schro on October 29, 2008, 05:12:10 PM
As I said on the first page of this thread, keeping it respectful was the key.
For the most part, it was.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Timmay on October 29, 2008, 07:39:04 PM
ahhh keep it open.  All i have seen is one person who has had a disagreement with this thread.  Lets all grow up a little here...there is many many different religions in this country.  Yes of course we will disagree with some beliefs but if we all voiced our opinions on what we disagree with ..we wouldnt get anything done.  Its the people who ANALYZE everything who seem to be the ones who have unsolved issues in their life.  Havent you ever noticed that how much one person will put others down or see their faults....then take a look at the person who is making such accousations.  One day we will all see that it doesnt do any good to judge another person...in fact ..it is wrong to judge anyone.   Let bygones be bygones and ........March Forward!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Alexander215 on October 29, 2008, 08:25:12 PM
Perhaps it's a good time to say goodbye to this thread? Moderators?

I somewhat agree, though I don't think it would solve anything.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Timmay on October 29, 2008, 08:26:48 PM
nahh it wouldnt solve anything.  People have been arguing about religion for 1000's of years...why solve it now.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Alexander215 on October 29, 2008, 08:32:35 PM
nahh it wouldnt solve anything.  People have been arguing about religion for 1000's of years...why solve it now.

I think even Neolithic man probably disputed personal beliefs. It's been going on for millenia, and probably always will.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: KollegeKreed on October 29, 2008, 10:48:33 PM
I saw this thread as a way for everyone to share their individual and diverse beliefs...it appears to have jumped the track when some one thought conversion was needed???

Im personally an agnostic. I completely in a higher God. I believe religion is intensely personal and individual, and I don't believe any 2 people can see religion exactly 100% the same. My best friend is an atheist, and it isnt an issue. My personal reasoning is that there are too many coincidences in life for their not to be a greater plan, and if there's nothing after this life...honestly, why bother? Suffer through heartache, stress, disease...to end up in a pine box 6 feet under? Not worth my time!

I think we're all hear to learn lessons, and eventually, we move on.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: BALDANDRE on October 29, 2008, 11:37:54 PM
Wow...missed all this...am glad I did...

imagine if we'd all been drunk talkin' bout this!? :o

The way you believe is yours and yours alone...just like it's your choice to take matters of your life into your own hands when you shaved your head smooth ( yea for me it DOES always go back to having a bald head ;))...

I think just like when we expect others to understand our want and need to be bald...

others should give our own beliefs the same understanding we strive for here.... just like we do with our choice of "haircut"!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: hammerdrill376 on October 30, 2008, 04:02:58 AM
ahhh keep it open.  All i have seen is one person who has had a disagreement with this thread.  Lets all grow up a little here...there is many many different religions in this country.  Yes of course we will disagree with some beliefs but if we all voiced our opinions on what we disagree with ..we wouldnt get anything done.  Its the people who ANALYZE everything who seem to be the ones who have unsolved issues in their life.  Havent you ever noticed that how much one person will put others down or see their faults....then take a look at the person who is making such accousations.  One day we will all see that it doesnt do any good to judge another person...in fact ..it is wrong to judge anyone.   Let bygones be bygones and ........March Forward!

Well said
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: xnewyawka on October 30, 2008, 10:49:33 AM
ahhh keep it open.  All i have seen is one person who has had a disagreement with this thread.  Lets all grow up a little here...there is many many different religions in this country.  Yes of course we will disagree with some beliefs but if we all voiced our opinions on what we disagree with ..we wouldnt get anything done.  Its the people who ANALYZE everything who seem to be the ones who have unsolved issues in their life.  Havent you ever noticed that how much one person will put others down or see their faults....then take a look at the person who is making such accousations.  One day we will all see that it doesnt do any good to judge another person...in fact ..it is wrong to judge anyone.   Let bygones be bygones and ........March Forward!

Well said

Ditto that.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: NWTRNR on October 30, 2008, 11:03:35 AM
Yep, good points -- guess we only have had one disgruntled so far. OK, I retract my suggestion.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Timmay on October 31, 2008, 06:37:01 AM
TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN GOD....

a sign I seen yesterday..

" Life without God, is like an unsharpened pencil.  There is no point too it"
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: The Zook on October 31, 2008, 07:53:19 AM
Those church signs make me laugh sometimes :D

I guess my life has no point, even though I have a wonderful family with a wife and 3 kids.  ::)

Please.

I'd love to express my opinions, but it would cause so much chaos around here it's not even worth the effort. If we could keep the little jabs out of this thread, that would be nice. :x!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Timmay on October 31, 2008, 08:02:17 AM
Not making any jabs at anyone.  It is people like that who take offense to everything.  Why do they always have to have their defense up?  Just like the Bosely commericals.....I dont take offense to it...i just laugh at them and go on.  Obviously there is something there to make one go on the defense..or no comments would have been made...am i correct??
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: The Zook on October 31, 2008, 08:09:57 AM
Only that my life DOES have a point, even without the god you believe in.

The difference between you and I (and not the only one) is that I can accept that you believe in god, and even appreciate it. I'd never say your life is pointless because you believe in god, nor would I insinuate such a thing.

It wasn't funny, wasn't meant to be funny, and wasn't taken that way... It was an insult, just like most of those message are.

The whole 'be like me or you're nothing' attitude is what turns me away most.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Timmay on October 31, 2008, 08:50:08 AM
never once said be like me.....dont want you to be like me anyways...this forum cant handle two Timmay's
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: StumpyDave on October 31, 2008, 09:41:34 AM
Steady Chris.
Us godless heathens are in the minority. 

So far there's only 1 buddhist.  Maybe we can pick on him?
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Timmay on October 31, 2008, 09:49:03 AM
thing is ...you all act like we are out against you.  Well we are all brothers in here.  But if that is the way you veiw it...then why do you visit the religion thread?  I understand RELIGION has many different forms of defining.  So, I cant speak for anyone else, but when I post in here..it isnt to bash anyone and never will.  But if that is the label you are going to put on me..well you do not know me very well and there you go to judging people.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: The Zook on October 31, 2008, 09:49:25 AM
Peace be with you.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: PBurke on October 31, 2008, 09:51:02 AM
and also with you!    ha ha ha c'mon guys, let's keep this one cool. to each his own i say.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Timmay on October 31, 2008, 09:53:29 AM
THANK YOU PBurke.... it was my understanding this wasnt to evolve into a bashing thread.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: PowerOfCheese on October 31, 2008, 10:04:18 AM
I wish I knew what religion I am. I suppose not wanting to be part of a religion or religious cult is a religion somewhere. lol

I was raised Catholic, my mother is a Catholic school teacher, I even had my last rights as a child. Unfortunately, I can't stand going to church. To me it feels like an invasion of privacy or mass speculation. I don't think my pathetic human brain can truly comprehend what's in store for me in the afterlife. Having a human interpretation just seems like creative writing to me.

I believe with all my soul that there's something out there but I also believe with all my soul that all the religions have it wrong. If I had kids I'd probably raise them Catholic or Christian as a guide to help teach them right and wrong but I certainly wouldn't push faith on them. Maybe I'm a hypocrite... dunno.

Is there a religion for someone like me? I believe in a power but not the human twist/name that's put on it. I don't need saving. I speak to my "God" every day all day.

We'll find out soon enough I suppose. Life: Nobody gets out alive.


Title: Re: Religon
Post by: StumpyDave on October 31, 2008, 10:10:21 AM
Quote
Nobody gets out alive

I'm pushing for immortality.  I'm doing alright so far.  I'll keep you updated with how I get on.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: tomgallagher on October 31, 2008, 05:03:13 PM
good luck with that.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: THier on November 01, 2008, 02:53:52 AM
Well I was resisting clicking this thread,, but glad to see (at least the pages I read) this is a very civilized thread. I am glad it has been allowed to continued.

 I am a cradle Catholic, maybe not a poster boy for the religion, but deep in my beliefs, I don't "preach" to anyone and I don't like anyone to "preach" to me outside of the church. If a civilized discussion comes up, not matter what the religion, then I will participitate, but I don't tell anyone they are wrong, but expect the same in return. I find it interesting to hear what others beliefs are, but no-one has swayed mine. O0

Tom
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: StumpyDave on November 01, 2008, 08:53:56 AM
My boss is an Orthodox Jew.
That looks like a lot of hard work!  There are quite strict restrictions imposed on their lifestyles.  However he and his family seem very happy.  It is also a very close community.  They really do look after their own an help in any way possible.  His business contacts in North London and Manchester have brought a lot of income to his companies.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Razor X on November 01, 2008, 09:29:56 PM
What's really interesting about this conversation is that it proves that sly guys come from all walks of life.  One of the common fears of would-be headshavers is that they'll be mistakenly pigeon-holed as a thug, racist, Nazi, gay, cancer patient, etc. etc.  But threads like this prove for once and for all that there is no one "profile" for the sly guy.  We come from all across the religious, political and socio-economic spectrum.  We're a pretty diverse group, don't you think?   :)
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: wpruitt on November 01, 2008, 09:55:22 PM
Great point, bro!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: joergHH on November 02, 2008, 04:30:56 AM
What's really interesting about this conversation is that it proves that sly guys come from all walks of life.   We come from all across the religious, political and socio-economic spectrum.  We're a pretty diverse group, don't you think?   :)

Really, that's it!

J
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Mikekoz13 on November 02, 2008, 06:49:27 AM
What's really interesting about this conversation is that it proves that sly guys come from all walks of life.  One of the common fears of would-be headshavers is that they'll be mistakenly pigeon-holed as a thug, racist, Nazi, gay, cancer patient, etc. etc.  But threads like this prove for once and for all that there is no one "profile" for the sly guy.  We come from all across the religious, political and socio-economic spectrum.  We're a pretty diverse group, don't you think?   :)

Razor nails it!!!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: xnewyawka on November 02, 2008, 08:49:26 AM
What's really interesting about this conversation is that it proves that sly guys come from all walks of life.   We come from all across the religious, political and socio-economic spectrum.  We're a pretty diverse group, don't you think?   :)

Really, that's it!

J

Well said, Raz.  And that should close this thread.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: timorousme on November 06, 2008, 02:10:44 PM
What's really interesting about this conversation is that it proves that sly guys come from all walks of life.  One of the common fears of would-be headshavers is that they'll be mistakenly pigeon-holed as a thug, racist, Nazi, gay, cancer patient, etc. etc.  But threads like this prove for once and for all that there is no one "profile" for the sly guy.  We come from all across the religious, political and socio-economic spectrum.  We're a pretty diverse group, don't you think?   :)

Right on. If anything, I think after I shaved, I'm actually pigeonholed less than before. I looked like a total creep before. Now, there's less of me being hidden and my true character shines. We're all such a diverse and eclectic bunch, but this thread shows that being sly is really about having nothing to hide. Our characters truly break the pigeonholes.

I had a dream! That one day, a man would not be judged by the hair on his head, but by the content of his heart!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: fcb2001 on February 15, 2009, 09:59:31 AM
Iam the same way, iam a convert to catholicism myself i was raised as a non demoninational christian, I dont preach to anyone, and i dont like anyone to preach to me outside of church, the only time i will discuss religion is if there can be a civilized discussion, and i have a great deal of respect for other people's faiths.

this is the church i go to http://www.johnthebaptist.org/bulletins.html

Well I was resisting clicking this thread,, but glad to see (at least the pages I read) this is a very civilized thread. I am glad it has been allowed to continued.

 I am a cradle Catholic, maybe not a poster boy for the religion, but deep in my beliefs, I don't "preach" to anyone and I don't like anyone to "preach" to me outside of the church. If a civilized discussion comes up, not matter what the religion, then I will participitate, but I don't tell anyone they are wrong, but expect the same in return. I find it interesting to hear what others beliefs are, but no-one has swayed mine. O0

Tom
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: clipped on February 15, 2009, 12:49:04 PM
I was raised Catholic, but switched to the Methodist Church, to be able to share that with my wife. 
I also was impressed by the diversity exhibited by this thread, by the respect exhibited and by the open-ness of many of those who shared their thoughts.  One other aspect of this site that I am growing to appreciate, is that while all here are here for some reason to do with their hair (or lack thereof), it's refreshing to have a forum where men so openly discuss their feeling and support each other.  That's something that I find missing in many male friendships.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: DCdome on February 15, 2009, 03:28:57 PM
I am Catholic and respectful of all faiths and spiritual beliefs.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: adam_r_todd on February 15, 2009, 03:46:43 PM
Well, I am a Christian and I attend a Assembly of God church.  I am very active in my church and I'm a vocalist on the worship team. 

My church has a few Sly Guys in it.  I will show you a few pics of sly guys from my church.  We have a bit being a small church.

The first picture shows my friend Glenn, who is the head of recovery ministries at my church.  The next person is Edd, the ministry intern.  Then there is myself and my friend Bubba, who is a member of this group and was visiting from Idaho.

The next picture is of myself and Atlas.  I have to say that while Atlas is close to 60, I am sure that being sly makes him look younger.

The fourth pic is Edd, Jason, myself and Caleb.  So you can see that we need to wear blinders where I go to church.  The shine can be blinding!   ;D

The third pic is myself and Ray, my twin vocalist on the worship team.



I go to an Assembly of God church too.  You're in good company.  I also sing on the worship team. 

Even if this thread is against the rules, I think it was a great idea.   Neat to hear others' backgrounds.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Mike on February 15, 2009, 04:18:44 PM
I was raised without any religious influence. No one in my family went to church. One time I was staying the weekend at a friends house and they went to church and asked if I'd like to go so I did. After that first time I went quite a bit alone. I dont remember what denomination they are, its a United Church of Christ.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: calbito on February 16, 2009, 01:29:47 AM
 I once visited a Methodist church in the town where I lived.  When the minister went up to the pulpit to deliver the sermon he suddenly broke up laughing.  Someone had left a note on the pulpit which said:"God so loved the world that He did not send a committee.".   ;D
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: PORKY on February 16, 2009, 03:42:14 AM
well i guess im a religous mutt i was baptised catholic went to the neighborhood Baptist church was kinda a atheist for a while and NOW i attend a nondenomanational church (scruffy/urban) its a come as you are JUSTCOME !most of us have either tattoo's or piecings , ride motorcycles  AND talk PLAIN english and ENJOY being there !  DO ALOT for the children and seniors
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: The Scottish Ambassador on February 16, 2009, 07:47:09 AM
Dont know how I can have been a member for so long and have missed this post.

I am an elder in The Church of Scotland. This is a presbyterian church. I am deeply respectful of other peoples religions and ask that they are the same of mine.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: GASlick on February 16, 2009, 07:49:18 AM
I once visited a Methodist church in the town where I lived.  When the minister went up to the pulpit to deliver the sermon he suddenly broke up laughing.  Someone had left a note on the pulpit which said:"God so loved the world that He did not send a committee.".   ;D

As a life long Methodist, I can tell you that's the absolute truth.  Good gracious, we have committees to set up committees!   :*))
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Pshrynk on February 16, 2009, 12:15:43 PM
I'm an Evangelical Atheist.    O0
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: The Scottish Ambassador on February 16, 2009, 12:22:38 PM
I once visited a Methodist church in the town where I lived.  When the minister went up to the pulpit to deliver the sermon he suddenly broke up laughing.  Someone had left a note on the pulpit which said:"God so loved the world that He did not send a committee.".   ;D

As a life long Methodist, I can tell you that's the absolute truth.  Good gracious, we have committees to set up committees!   :*))

GA should you not have set up a committee to agree you making such a statement  :*))
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: wpruitt on February 16, 2009, 05:20:50 PM
I once visited a Methodist church in the town where I lived.  When the minister went up to the pulpit to deliver the sermon he suddenly broke up laughing.  Someone had left a note on the pulpit which said:"God so loved the world that He did not send a committee.".   ;D
The Rapture was about to occur.  The Baptist held a revival.  The Catholics held a Mass.  The Methodist formed a committee!!

As a life long Methodist, I can tell you that's the absolute truth.  Good gracious, we have committees to set up committees!   :*))
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: SlyHigh on February 17, 2009, 06:48:57 AM
As a life long Methodist, I can tell you that's the absolute truth.  Good gracious, we have committees to set up committees!   :*))
Yep, my wife is on the "nominating" committee.  It's the committee that decides who is on the other committees.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Michael on February 17, 2009, 09:59:10 AM

I think even Neolithic man probably disputed personal beliefs. It's been going on for millenia, and probably always will.

"Gunga the Sun God is best..." "Noooooo!  Uga the Moon Lady is better!" [Clubs being picked up!] lol. 
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Michael on February 17, 2009, 10:21:12 AM
My mother is a Wiccan High Priestess, dad is a Southern Baptist.  My family in law are Church of Christ. My uncle is a wonderful proud gay man.  I have a cousin who is the head of the Franciscan Order (Anglican) in San Francisco.  I am an active rebellious Latter-Day Saint with Buddhist leanings (Returned missionary to Hong Kong, Ward Clerk, serve weekly in the Sacramento Temple.)  I am also a Freemason.  Family reunions are great!  The great secret to bliss and harmony in our mixed up extended family is simple.... we love one another.  Humor is mixed in, jokes and teasing surround our holiday tables.  "Cast any good spells mom?"  "Sister Pam, what do you want for your birthday? Lemme guess.... brown socks?" "Uncle Bill, how's aunt John?"  "Hey Mike, found a second wife yet?  And while you're at it, where is the treasure?"  We chuckle... and we just simply love!  Life is too short to not love one another, and not be able to laugh at the human condition.  It is my belief that we are all spiritual beings having a human experience. :@`
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: The Scottish Ambassador on February 17, 2009, 11:03:30 AM
My mother is a Wiccan High Priestess, dad is a Southern Baptist.  My family in law are Church of Christ. My uncle is a wonderful proud gay man.  I have a cousin who is the head of the Franciscan Order (Anglican) in San Francisco.  I am an active rebellious Latter-Day Saint with Buddhist leanings (Returned missionary to Hong Kong, Ward Clerk, serve weekly in the Sacramento Temple.)  I am also a Freemason.  Family reunions are great!  The great secret to bliss and harmony in our mixed up extended family is simple.... we love one another.  Humor is mixed in, jokes and teasing surround our holiday tables.  "Cast any good spells mom?"  "Sister Pam, what do you want for your birthday? Lemme guess.... brown socks?" "Uncle Bill, how's aunt John?"  "Hey Mike, found a second wife yet?  And while you're at it, where is the treasure?"  We chuckle... and we just simply love!  Life is too short to not love one another, and not be able to laugh at the human condition.  It is my belief that we are all spiritual beings having a human experience. :@`

Awesome post  O0
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Mike on February 17, 2009, 12:48:58 PM
Michael that reminds me of one of my uncles through marriage, his name is Ron so everyone calls him Auntie Ron. In our area there are lots of Mormons, most of them go to one church that is normal church sized. They have 5 services a day because there are so many of them. Right now they are working on building a second church. They are always very nice. Also we have either Amish or Mennonites, I cant remember which they are but they run a bakery and have some of the best baked goods.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: wpruitt on February 17, 2009, 09:08:50 PM
As a life long Methodist, I can tell you that's the absolute truth.  Good gracious, we have committees to set up committees!   :*))
Yep, my wife is on the "nominating" committee.  It's the committee that decides who is on the other committees.
I am, as Lay Leader, am on that one.  It keeps me off the dreaded Parsonage Committee
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: GASlick on February 18, 2009, 07:09:18 AM
As a life long Methodist, I can tell you that's the absolute truth.  Good gracious, we have committees to set up committees!   :*))
Yep, my wife is on the "nominating" committee.  It's the committee that decides who is on the other committees.
I am, as Lay Leader, am on that one.  It keeps me off the dreaded Parsonage Committee

I'm a Lay Leader also and currently chair of Evangelism.  The only ones I haven't served on are Trustees, the people charged with facilities basically (you can't even change a light buld without Trustees approval - LOL - an exaggeration of course, but you get my point) and Finance.  Quite possible the two most pretentious and debated committees in Methodism.   Nothing like a dispute over money to bring out peace of love in everybody.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Paul on February 18, 2009, 07:56:17 AM
I often believe that we Methodists have a patron saint of committees.   I am on Igniting Ministries and Worship committee.  Igniting Ministries has one benefit, monthly meeting is at a fellow members home for breakfast.  This really can help with the thought processes and can help limit discussion when people's mouths are full :*))
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: calbito on February 18, 2009, 09:55:55 AM
Dont know how I can have been a member for so long and have missed this post.

I am an elder in The Church of Scotland. This is a presbyterian church. I am deeply respectful of other peoples religions and ask that they are the same of mine.

Aye, the Auld Kirk!  O0  Played a big role in my family's history.  The family was originally Highland Scottish, which meant Roman Catholic.  Then my great-great-grandmother decided to join the Kirk.  That didn't set too well with the clan chieftain, so the whole family was given the boot.  They sailed across the Irish Sea and took residence in Ballymena, in what is now Northern Ireland.  It was there that in 1884 my grandfather was born.  He grew up there and worked at the linen mill before coming to America.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: StumpyDave on February 18, 2009, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: Paul
Igniting Ministries

Isn't there a law against that sort of thing?
I thought this brimstone and fire thing was metaphorical!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: The Scottish Ambassador on February 18, 2009, 10:21:17 AM
Dont know how I can have been a member for so long and have missed this post.

I am an elder in The Church of Scotland. This is a presbyterian church. I am deeply respectful of other peoples religions and ask that they are the same of mine.

Aye, the Auld Kirk!  O0  Played a big role in my family's history.  The family was originally Highland Scottish, which meant Roman Catholic.  Then my great-great-grandmother decided to join the Kirk.  That didn't set too well with the clan chieftain, so the whole family was given the boot.  They sailed across the Irish Sea and took residence in Ballymena, in what is now Northern Ireland.  It was there that in 1884 my grandfather was born.  He grew up there and worked at the linen mill before coming to America.


Wow! He left the RC church to join the Kirk? That WAS brave
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Paul on February 18, 2009, 10:22:19 AM
Quote from: Paul
Igniting Ministries

Isn't there a law against that sort of thing?
I thought this brimstone and fire thing was metaphorical!

It is really a ruse.  What we do is burn heretics ;D
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: calbito on February 18, 2009, 01:23:16 PM
Quote from: Paul
Igniting Ministries

Isn't there a law against that sort of thing?
I thought this brimstone and fire thing was metaphorical!

It is really a ruse.  What we do is burn heretics ;D

I wonder if they ever thought that the "Igniting Ministries" plus the fact that the Church logo is a burning cross might be sending the wrong message?  ;D

On a similar note when I was a Lutheran the pastor told me that for his evangelical (i.e. reach out to the unchurched) worship service he would wear just a business suit instead of the usual white robe with the hood lest anyone think we were associated with the KKK.  ;D
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: calbito on February 18, 2009, 01:25:30 PM
Dont know how I can have been a member for so long and have missed this post.

I am an elder in The Church of Scotland. This is a presbyterian church. I am deeply respectful of other peoples religions and ask that they are the same of mine.

Aye, the Auld Kirk!  O0  Played a big role in my family's history.  The family was originally Highland Scottish, which meant Roman Catholic.  Then my great-great-grandmother decided to join the Kirk.  That didn't set too well with the clan chieftain, so the whole family was given the boot.  They sailed across the Irish Sea and took residence in Ballymena, in what is now Northern Ireland.  It was there that in 1884 my grandfather was born.  He grew up there and worked at the linen mill before coming to America.


Wow! He left the RC church to join the Kirk? That WAS brave

Yeah and the strange thing about it is that as far as I can tell this was done during the "highland clearances".  Shows you how intelligent my ancestors were.  :/O
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Rhymez on May 14, 2009, 02:02:26 AM
I am a Christian and attend Oshawa Community Church.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: baldmandan on July 29, 2011, 04:26:44 PM
freshly-minted Christian! Riding high on God's love and so new i havn't even found a church yet!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: BBCAlex on July 29, 2011, 05:17:48 PM
Lifelong atheist here. Im also a leader in the secular community in the Research Triangle of NC.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Daven on July 29, 2011, 08:13:19 PM
In my 42 year's on Earth I have been: Catholic, jewish, Methodist, Presbyterian, MORMON, and am now an ordained Baptist Minister serving as a Minister to our church's disabilities ministry. 

Religion has ALWAYS been a big interest to me.The only three things I can't wrap my had around are Muslim, Hindi and Atheism. (with respect to all those) I don't understand Atheism the most, Atheism is "Knowing beyond all doubt that there is not and can not be s supreme being. which means if you call yourself an Atheist, you have studied at depth ALL the worlds religions and have proven them to be wrong through all physiological and scientific works." I told an Atheist friend that and he said "yeah, your right, I'm agnostic which is "The presence of a supreme god or entity is unknown or not understood by me".

Like I said, I respect all views, but those last three have be baffled and YES, I have studied them all.

Rev. Gimpy  :)
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Arnie on July 30, 2011, 08:24:32 AM
In my 42 year's on Earth I have been: Catholic, jewish, Methodist, Presbyterian, MORMON, and am now an ordained Baptist Minister serving as a Minister to our church's disabilities ministry. 

Religion has ALWAYS been a big interest to me.The only three things I can't wrap my had around are Muslim, Hindi and Atheism. (with respect to all those) I don't understand Atheism the most, Atheism is "Knowing beyond all doubt that there is not and can not be s supreme being. which means if you call yourself an Atheist, you have studied at depth ALL the worlds religions and have proven them to be wrong through all physiological and scientific works." I told an Atheist friend that and he said "yeah, your right, I'm agnostic which is "The presence of a supreme god or entity is unknown or not understood by me".

Like I said, I respect all views, but those last three have be baffled and YES, I have studied them all.

Rev. Gimpy  :)
WOW!!!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: marty22 on July 30, 2011, 01:25:05 PM
extremely unique there Daven.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: BBCAlex on July 30, 2011, 01:56:34 PM
I use the Merriam-Websters definition of atheism to describe myself: atheism-a disbelief in the existence of deity. I would never claim that I know that there are no gods but likewise those who make the extraordinary claim that there are gods have yet to provide verifiable emperical evidence to support their hypothesis. If said evidence ever is produced to support the supernatural hypothesis I will be happy to change my mind to fit the evidence.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: texanron on July 30, 2011, 04:06:44 PM
I'm adding you to my prayer list Alex.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: BBCAlex on July 30, 2011, 08:04:18 PM
I'm adding you to my prayer list Alex.

Go for it. What do I care if you talk to yourself?  8)
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Robmeister on August 03, 2011, 08:00:07 PM
I use the Merriam-Websters definition of atheism to describe myself: atheism-a disbelief in the existence of deity. I would never claim that I know that there are no gods but likewise those who make the extraordinary claim that there are gods have yet to provide verifiable emperical evidence to support their hypothesis. If said evidence ever is produced to support the supernatural hypothesis I will be happy to change my mind to fit the evidence.

Seems like a dangerous thing to question God's existence in his presence...LOL
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: BigKen on August 23, 2016, 08:07:47 PM
I am a Christian, but the denominations I’ve practiced my faith have changed a couple of times. My father’s side of the family is Anglican, and my mother’s side is Roman Catholic. My paternal grandfather was actually an Anglican catechist in my parents’ native country. I was baptized in the Episcopal, or what I call Americanized Anglican, church. I attended a Lutheran church with my family for a few years growing up. We had some Lutheran family friends who invited us to their church, and my mother enjoyed the style of worship. That’s why we started attending regularly. I eventually returned to my roots and received my confirmation in the Episcopal Church. As I got older, I started drifting away from Episcopalianism and becoming more drawn to Roman Catholicism. I attended Catholic churches occasionally as a teen and loved the overall atmosphere. I have left the Episcopal Church, and decided the Roman Catholic Church is where I belong. I believe a person’s choice of religion is more than what teachings an individual is comfortable with. I believe it’s also where one feels most connected with the Holy Spirit.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: buddha on August 24, 2016, 11:19:54 AM
I use the Merriam-Websters definition of atheism to describe myself: atheism-a disbelief in the existence of deity. I would never claim that I know that there are no gods but likewise those who make the extraordinary claim that there are gods have yet to provide verifiable emperical evidence to support their hypothesis. If said evidence ever is produced to support the supernatural hypothesis I will be happy to change my mind to fit the evidence.

Seems like a dangerous thing to question God's existence in his presence...LOL

Since it is said that the god that is mostly worshipped here in the USA created us in his image I would tend to think that he, like us, has a brain. That being the case I tend to think that he would be a bit miffed at any of us who chose not to use the brain and just followed a particular religion blindly and never questioned anything we were told regardless of how bizarre it sounded.
As for myself I tend to be what I would refer to as an agnostic anti-theist which could be interpreted as I don't know if there are gods at work or not but then neither does anybody else. That being said I am against the idea of organized religion. It seems that it is a control mechanism that is used by whoever happens to be in authority at the moment to keep those of us who live in the real world on our best behavior. As Napoleon said "religion was invented to keep the poor from murdering the rich". But I'm a live and let live kind of guy. I don't try to convince anyone else that they are wrong for doing something that may make them feel better. I do expect the same courtesy in exchange, however, and on the few occasions that I have been confronted by someone who takes it upon themselves to convince me of the error of my ways I spare no expense in leaving them shaking their heads as I turn my back on them and walk away.
And let us never forget that we are all atheists. People who acknowledge their atheism just believe in one less god than those who are deeply religious.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: BigKen on August 25, 2016, 04:14:13 PM
Michael that reminds me of one of my uncles through marriage, his name is Ron so everyone calls him Auntie Ron. In our area there are lots of Mormons, most of them go to one church that is normal church sized. They have 5 services a day because there are so many of them. Right now they are working on building a second church. They are always very nice. Also we have either Amish or Mennonites, I cant remember which they are but they run a bakery and have some of the best baked goods.

I would really like to visit a Mormon church. Mormons have a traditional, yet unique kind of faith and are friendly from what I'm aware of. Even though I'm committed to a particular denomination, I'm open to visiting different types of churches.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: flattopcat on August 26, 2016, 08:57:59 PM
 :/O. I strongly belive in feeding christians to the LIONS!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Razor X on August 26, 2016, 09:21:28 PM
:/O. I strongly belive in feeding christians to the LIONS!

Not a good introductory post.  We generally don't allow religion or politics to be discussed here but so far this has been a respectful conversation - until now.  There will be no further warnings.  Anyone who posts anything inflammatory will be banned.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: BigKen on September 11, 2016, 08:31:15 AM
*Gives a high five to everyone who's posted in here, so far* When I saw this topic created, I thought to myself "This one has potential for becoming a major flame war!" And I haven't even seen a wisp of smoke so far...God job, everybody! O0

Yes....GREAT JOB yooz guyz !!

Bible-believing, Spirit-filled Christian here too.  Grew up Roman Catholic.  Radically saved in 1991 after the music biz left me flat on my back in a rehab center for alcohol and cocaine.  Got my degree in Theology in 1997 and went on to graduate studies in Theology.  Switched my graduate major to MBA studies in Accounting and Finance in 1999....been in corporate finance ever since.

Been members of Baptist Churches, Presbyterian Churches and non-denominational churches since '91....playing the drums on their worship teams.  All VERY GOOD BIBLE-TEACHING churches.   Now attend Calvary Chapel of South Denver (non-denominational).


Cool background Robmeister; we should talk sometime!
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: slyguy82 on October 29, 2016, 06:38:58 PM
I guess you could say I'm a seeker...I grew up in an atheist household, but lately I've been really attracted to the idea of a God. Not sure if I'm changing my mind, but I can't really shake the feeling that I need to look into it. Any advice?
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Wicked_Ripper on October 30, 2016, 01:10:39 AM
Atheist here.
No, I won't flame or blame any religious people, I'm just over it :)
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: SlyCatCrossing on October 30, 2016, 06:19:50 AM
My answer mirrors wicked ripper's.

I actually grew up surrounded by many Christian family members and friends but it never really did anything for me.   I've tried.  Too many horrible life occurrences have prevented me from gaining faith that I never even had in the first place.  Types of situations where people usually "find god" I've actually strengthened my disbelief as a result of.  I have no issue at all with other peoples beliefs and find it so beautiful that we are beings to a level of intelligence that allows for us examine all possibilities and decide for ourselves what we feel is the just way to live.  I've also extensively studied history (which by default includes religion) and found one common theme amongst most, if not all, religions: don't be a dick! That's basically it.  All religions are just different titles and practices of being the best person you can be so while I don't personally believe on "god" or "gods" I do firmly believe in being the best person to your fellow man/woman you can at all times and that is the same wether you are Christian, jewish, Muslim, voodoo... Whatever really, just be nice to eachother! Haha

With all of that being said I do need to flat out say, the whole "invisible sky wizard" thing just will never jive with me. Sorry. 

I really hope this doesn't get me banned as I love this forum and meant no disrespect by my feelings.  I don't take offense when people talk about their belief so I hope no one takes offense when I talk about my lack of.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Sir Harry on October 30, 2016, 10:16:21 AM
My answer mirrors wicked ripper's.

I actually grew up surrounded by many Christian family members and friends but it never really did anything for me.   I've tried.  Too many horrible life occurrences have prevented me from gaining faith that I never even had in the first place.  Types of situations where people usually "find god" I've actually strengthened my disbelief as a result of.  I have no issue at all with other peoples beliefs and find it so beautiful that we are beings to a level of intelligence that allows for us examine all possibilities and decide for ourselves what we feel is the just way to live.  I've also extensively studied history (which by default includes religion) and found one common theme amongst most, if not all, religions: don't be a dick! That's basically it.  All religions are just different titles and practices of being the best person you can be so while I don't personally believe on "god" or "gods" I do firmly believe in being the best person to your fellow man/woman you can at all times and that is the same wether you are Christian, jewish, Muslim, voodoo... Whatever really, just be nice to eachother! Haha

With all of that being said I do need to flat out say, the whole "invisible sky wizard" thing just will never jive with me. Sorry. 

I really hope this doesn't get me banned as I love this forum and meant no disrespect by my feelings.  I don't take offense when people talk about their belief so I hope no one takes offense when I talk about my lack of.

As a moderator here, one of my key responsibilities (which I love) is to ensure that no member is harassed because of his/her religious, political, partner preference. Your beliefs and lifestyle will never get you banned here .
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: SlyCatCrossing on October 31, 2016, 04:37:00 AM
Thanks sirharry!

I've been a part of many different forums and most of the time the participants are not nice to eachother. This is one of the only brotherly, polite, and helpful forums out there!

If you want to be blown away by a level of disrespect you never thought possible spend five mins on the pearl drummers forum haha
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: jbrit25 on October 31, 2016, 06:16:45 AM
I guess you could say I'm a seeker...I grew up in an atheist household, but lately I've been really attracted to the idea of a God. Not sure if I'm changing my mind, but I can't really shake the feeling that I need to look into it. Any advice?

I grew up avery strong atheist and now I'm a youth minister in the christian faith. Its crazy how things turn around. All I can tell you is that people have a desire to worship something. Some people choose money, celebrity, health, etc. I think its because we are made to worship. I believe thats why you are feeling a pull to seek God. Keep it simple. Don't get caught in the complexity that can come with religion. And don't get bogged down and turned off by the religious jerks that preach intolerance. I compare them to the worst sports fans. Like when someone says they hate "team A" because the fans suck. There are more of us that aren't like them at all. A book that illustrates this is, Jesus > Religion by Jefferson Bethke. Good luck to you.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: BigKen on October 31, 2016, 06:32:37 PM
I guess you could say I'm a seeker...I grew up in an atheist household, but lately I've been really attracted to the idea of a God. Not sure if I'm changing my mind, but I can't really shake the feeling that I need to look into it. Any advice?

I grew up avery strong atheist and now I'm a youth minister in the christian faith. Its crazy how things turn around. All I can tell you is that people have a desire to worship something. Some people choose money, celebrity, health, etc. I think its because we are made to worship. I believe thats why you are feeling a pull to seek God. Keep it simple. Don't get caught in the complexity that can come with religion. And don't get bogged down and turned off by the religious jerks that preach intolerance. I compare them to the worst sports fans. Like when someone says they hate "team A" because the fans suck. There are more of us that aren't like them at all. A book that illustrates this is, Jesus > Religion by Jefferson Bethke. Good luck to you.

Very well said jbrit25
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: ThePangolin on November 01, 2016, 08:32:00 AM
Im disappointed that speaking about faith is against the rules, but this is the america we now live in.

I am a Christian, a follower of Christ. My name is Christian, if thats a funny story to anyone!

I used to be Baptist but am non denominational. I attend "church services" for lack of a better term with likeminded Christians who are sometimes referred to by others as "the Brethren" or "Plymouth Brethren" or "people of the Book", although we do not take a name for ourselves. I find more value and benefit in taking no name but Christ's - this is my personal choice.

As for funny stories... i have a lebanese friend in the assembly we go to, who used to enjoy sliding down the stairs from the meeting room to the cafeteria as a little boy. One Lord's Day he didnt know his pants were ripped at the crotch, and by the time he hit the bottom of the stairs his pants were wide open. Figures that for some reason (never understood this part) he had no underwear that day. He was about 10 at the time. Three girls in their late teens saw him and pointed out to him that his junk was loose, and he quickly hid in the coat room. To this day all three of those girls are really friendly with him for some reason. I guess they feel they are in on a secret or something. Lol

One time a brother offered a Hymn to be sung, but asked that we only sing a certain few of the stanzas. After we finished them, i forgot and began the next stanza loudly, off key, and all alone. Everyone stared. I don't think ive ever been so red in my entire life.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: BigKen on November 01, 2016, 08:46:01 PM
Im disappointed that speaking about faith is against the rules, but this is the america we now live in.

I am a Christian, a follower of Christ. My name is Christian, if thats a funny story to anyone!

I used to be Baptist but am non denominational. I attend "church services" for lack of a better term with likeminded Christians who are sometimes referred to by others as "the Brethren" or "Plymouth Brethren" or "people of the Book", although we do not take a name for ourselves. I find more value and benefit in taking no name but Christ's - this is my personal choice.

As for funny stories... i have a lebanese friend in the assembly we go to, who used to enjoy sliding down the stairs from the meeting room to the cafeteria as a little boy. One Lord's Day he didnt know his pants were ripped at the crotch, and by the time he hit the bottom of the stairs his pants were wide open. Figures that for some reason (never understood this part) he had no underwear that day. He was about 10 at the time. Three girls in their late teens saw him and pointed out to him that his junk was loose, and he quickly hid in the coat room. To this day all three of those girls are really friendly with him for some reason. I guess they feel they are in on a secret or something. Lol

One time a brother offered a Hymn to be sung, but asked that we only sing a certain few of the stanzas. After we finished them, i forgot and began the next stanza loudly, off key, and all alone. Everyone stared. I don't think ive ever been so red in my entire life.

Your 2nd story actually is funny. I can even imagine it. :*))
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: slyguy82 on November 01, 2016, 10:18:53 PM
Thank you so much everybody! I've been speaking with a few Christians, and their testimony (?) is really resonating with me.
Title: Re: Religon
Post by: Quiet_Dan on November 02, 2016, 03:25:41 AM
I'm a Christian also, I grew up in a Christian family, but when I finished school I went my own way making a lot of really poor decisions, married and divorced, criminal record, hanging out with people who did a lot of hard drugs. I realised I was at rock bottom and went searching and eventually came back to the Christian faith, and have a great Church family that I am part of.  With the way the world going I think it's pretty important.