Firearms for home protection

[xnewyawka]

so do cars, baseball bats, knives, ropes, airplanes, boats,etc. maybe we should outlaw anything that has ever been a part of a peron dying?  yeah, maybe then people wouldn't die. wake up!  on second thought, go back to sleep under the rock you have been under since last time you started trouble here.

that argument is just plain silly. comparing boats and planes to guns. sheesh.

wow another dumbass comment from you!  why am i not surprised?  my point was this: if you ban guns cause they are used as a tool to kill people, why not ban anything that can be used to kill?  if i ever wanted to kill someone and all i could find was a bat, i would use that. same with anything else i could get my hands on. banning guns would not help at all cause the criminals would still have them. and law abiding citizens would not be able to defend themselves against the idiots that have no regard for the law. would you bring a knife to a gunfight? i think not. alot of good men and women have died for me to be able to own a gun. i think banning guns would be like a slap in the face to them. as well as all who are defending this country now. as far as i am concerned tom, you can go find mr. mont and crawl under the rock with him.

Same thoughts here, Paulie.  This guy is famous for his ridiculous comments, and he tries thoroughly to get people riled up. Keep your biased and antique thinking attitude over at the other site, where you can post all the drivel you want!.   

[tomgallagher]

 
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wow another dumbass comment from you!  why am i not surprised?  my point was this: if you ban guns cause they are used as a tool to kill people, why not ban anything that can be used to kill? you can go find mr. mont and crawl under the rock with him.
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I realize your dumbass point and it is exactly that, a dumbass point. And as far as crawling under a rock is concerned that is a pretty piss poor attitude for a so called moderator to have.

[tomgallagher]

A short list of people that probably would agree with me that there are just too dang many guns out there:
Abraham Lincoln
James Garfield
William McKinley
Huey Long
Medgar Evers
Jack Kennedy
Malcom X
Bobby Kennedy
Martin Luther King
Harvey Milk
John Lennon

[StogieStang]

A short list of people that probably would agree with me that there are just too dang many guns out there:
Abraham Lincoln
James Garfield
William McKinley
Huey Long
Medgar Evers
Jack Kennedy
Malcom X
Bobby Kennedy
Martin Luther King
Harvey Milk
John Lennon

Would you like to pass laws that ban guns?  Then only criminals would have guns.  Would that be a good thing?

[tomgallagher]

No one is talking about banning guns for Chrissake. Plz focus. The point I am obviously not getting across is that there are too many guns in this country. Both legal and illegal. I have been a dues paying member of the National Rifle Association for over twenty years and lot of other members feel the same as I do. We just had a Vineland NJ cop arrested by the authorities after finding over 250 guns and a million rounds of ammunition in his house. Now c'mon, I ask you.

[Michael]

I don't hate liberals, we agree on some points but I do have some disagreements with them.

I don't hate liberals either... they taste good!

[Michael]

That's not true.  If an intruder came into my home with a sword I would need a gun since my fencing skills are lacking.

Actually, back in my martial arts days, all I kept in the house was a very sharp katana.  I stopped a girl being raped by some dudes in the back ally. I totally scared them away with it... or it could have been that I didn't have a stitch of clothes on!

[Michael]

Anyone else carry pocket knives for protection?

I do! And I have training to use it! As well as my sword! (Years in the SCA have been a blessing!)

[Michael]

Shine has a very good point about training.  I own a Buckmaster 22, and am currently in training with the NRA to use it safely.  After that I plan on getting something with a bit more bite.  Any recommendations for a revolver?

The Eddie Eagle program is great if you have kids in the house! The NRA also has some great info on how to safely handle home defense, positions, tactics, etc.  As far as the political discussion, isn't it a great country where we have the freedom (at least for now) to politely express our views. Hmmm... freedom... gun ownership....hmmmm.

[buddha]

Giggles for General Cosgrove!!!!! What a comeback!
BTW, I haven't read this entire thread so someone here may have addressed this already. MS-13 came to Waukegan a couple of years after I retired from the PD. With the little I know of them I am very happy to have been gone before they arrived on scene. The county sergeant was mistaken about their national origin, they are not Mexican (unless that was one of those "they all look alike to me" descriptions.). These guys are from El Salvador. While they are not composed entirely of former military and para-military the leadership structure is said to be staffed by people with "experience". IMO, if MS-13 is in town start checking the real estate listings in Wyoming or Montana. These dudes are not afraid of the cops, in fact, they not only disrespect them to the core, they are unconcerned by a police presence. Unlike our home-grown gangs who are more concerned about turf and street corners and macho bu!!$h*+ these guys are businessmen with some real soldiers at thir disposal. And they are most certainly equipped to back up their tough talk. 

[Alexander215]

A short list of people that probably would agree with me that there are just too dang many guns out there:
Abraham Lincoln
James Garfield
William McKinley
Huey Long
Medgar Evers
Jack Kennedy
Malcom X
Bobby Kennedy
Martin Luther King
Harvey Milk
John Lennon

Reminded me of this quote,
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
-Benjamin Franklin

Those aren't necessarily my views, I'm staying out of this thread because gun politics in Canada and the US are incredibly different, for many different reasons.

[Nonick]

Michael,
If you're looking for a revolver, you need to consider what criteria you want.  Do you want to conceal it?  Do you prefer hammerless?  Any good sized gun shop could show you enough variety to make your head spin. 
The only revolver I've ever cared for is a large frame .357 Magnum for target shooting.  I think it was Dirty Harry that said something like, "regular guns go bang; but magnums go boom!"    Besides, you can always put .38s in it, if you want the Mrs. to have something to shoot with very little recoil! 

On the subject of getting rid of guns, maybe our sly guys in England or Australia could comment on how that is working in their respective country.  I've heard stories, but, it would be nice to know how things are going from someone living there. 

[tow]

MICHEAL CHECK OUT THE NEW LINE OF REVOLVERS CHAMBERED IN .327 FEDERAL.MORE STOPPING POWER THAN A 357 LESS RECOIL THAN A 38 ITS BEING CITED AS THE PERFECT SELF DEFENSE ROUND.

[PORKY]

HELLO guyz, just remember when the government asks for your guns to be turned in "to protecet the general publics safety" the only ones that ARE turning them in ARE the law abiding populace ! the criminals DONT turn their guns in and are GRATEFUL when john q public DOES turn theirs in because there is less chance of THEM getting killed in the commision of a crime!  look at BRITIAN theyre armed crimes have gone up lik 200%  and the government is ADDMITTING they screwed up by taking away the HONEST populace weapons !

[time2shine]

That's not true.  If an intruder came into my home with a sword I would need a gun since my fencing skills are lacking.

Actually, back in my martial arts days, all I kept in the house was a very sharp katana.  I stopped a girl being raped by some dudes in the back ally. I totally scared them away with it... or it could have been that I didn't have a stitch of clothes on!

Good for you, Michael.  That's a crazy story.