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Re: An absolute tragedy
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2008, 10:12:25 AM »
Obviously not well versed in netiquette....too busy raising my kids.  O0


Where do people come up with these terms anyway?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette

Netiquette is also taught in many professional skills development classes in Universities and Colleges. It's more about common sense and respecting others than anything.

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Re: An absolute tragedy
« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2008, 10:16:30 AM »
Obviously not well versed in netiquette....too busy raising my kids.  O0


Where do people come up with these terms anyway?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette

Netiquette is also taught in many professional skills development classes in Universities and Colleges. It's more about common sense and respecting others than anything.

My sincerest apologies if I've offended you or anyone else with my (unknown) "yelling".

By the way, if you're implying I'm lacking in either common sense or respect of others you're way off!!!


Agonizing over what cannot be is an insult to what is.

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Re: An absolute tragedy
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2008, 10:18:15 AM »
Obviously not well versed in netiquette....too busy raising my kids.  O0


Where do people come up with these terms anyway?  :*))


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They think these terms up while they're locked up in their rooms playing video games!!! :*)) :*))
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Re: An absolute tragedy
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2008, 10:20:18 AM »
Obviously not well versed in netiquette....too busy raising my kids.  O0


By the way, if you're implying I'm lacking in either common sense or respect of others you're way off!!!


I'll have to defend SCHRO on this one.... he's always respectful of me when he tells me I have no taste in music.... ;)
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Re: An absolute tragedy
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2008, 10:28:57 AM »
Obviously not well versed in netiquette....too busy raising my kids.  O0


Where do people come up with these terms anyway?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette

Netiquette is also taught in many professional skills development classes in Universities and Colleges. It's more about common sense and respecting others than anything.

My sincerest apologies if I've offended you or anyone else with my (unknown) "yelling".

By the way, if you're implying I'm lacking in either common sense or respect of others you're way off!!!

I wasn't implying anything. And very little offends me, except for hip-hop and rap culture.

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Re: An absolute tragedy
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2008, 10:44:18 AM »
I'll have to defend SCHRO on this one.... he's always respectful of me when he tells me I have no taste in music.... ;)

Well, you don't!   :D

On this subject, I think there are many factors that lead to these events...  It can't be nailed down to just one.  Lack of good parenting, violent video games/shows, lack of discipline (or the ability to discipline), etc have dragged these kids into a psuedo world where there are no perceived consequences to their actions.   They are part of the entitlement generation that believes that the world should be handed to them on a silver platter.  Video games are the norm, not the exception... they have accountability to no one except themselves...  

The technology that has gotten our world to the point where we are now IS to blame... as are parents that use that technology to replace them.  Then throw in the societial condemnation of discipline, and we're fucked for the future!  Many kids today, while smarter than previous generations, truly have no sense of right, wrong, or common sense, in addition to a total and utter lack of respect.

And before any of you parents go off on the single guy with no kids... I did have stepkids that I raised from a very young age until my divorce (which was a hell of a lot longer than 6 months).  I took much more responsibility for teaching them right and wrong and discipling them than their mother did!

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Re: An absolute tragedy
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2008, 10:46:08 AM »
I'll have to defend SCHRO on this one.... he's always respectful of me when he tells me I have no taste in music.... ;)

Well, you don't!   :D

On this subject, I think there are many factors that lead to these events...  It can't be nailed down to just one.  Lack of good parenting, violent video games/shows, lack of discipline (or the ability to discipline), etc have dragged these kids into a psuedo world where there are no perceived consequences to their actions.   They are part of the entitlement generation that believes that the world should be handed to them on a silver platter.  Video games are the norm, not the exception... they have accountability to no one except themselves...  

The technology that has gotten our world to the point where we are now IS to blame... as are parents that use that technology to replace them.  Then throw in the societial condemnation of discipline, and we're f**ked for the future!  Many kids today, while smarter than previous generations, truly have no sense of right, wrong, or common sense, in addition to a total and utter lack of respect.

And before any of you parents go off on the single guy with no kids... I did have stepkids that I raised from a very young age until my divorce (which was a hell of a lot longer than 6 months).  I took much more responsibility for teaching them right and wrong and discipling them than their mother did!
You nailed it.

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Re: An absolute tragedy
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2008, 10:49:36 AM »
Schro, what the hell did you do now.? You trouble maker you... :*))

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Re: An absolute tragedy
« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2008, 11:13:56 AM »
Schro, what the hell did you do now.? You trouble maker you... :*))

I apparently lack netiquette....though I was under the impression that placing things in some different type of font (or caps, bold, or italics) is done to emphasize a point. That's how I've always viewed this when I've drafted reports for counsel.
 


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Re: An absolute tragedy
« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2008, 05:26:47 PM »
I'll have to defend SCHRO on this one.... he's always respectful of me when he tells me I have no taste in music.... ;)

Well, you don't!   :D

On this subject, I think there are many factors that lead to these events...  It can't be nailed down to just one.  Lack of good parenting, violent video games/shows, lack of discipline (or the ability to discipline), etc have dragged these kids into a psuedo world where there are no perceived consequences to their actions.   They are part of the entitlement generation that believes that the world should be handed to them on a silver platter.  Video games are the norm, not the exception... they have accountability to no one except themselves...  

The technology that has gotten our world to the point where we are now IS to blame... as are parents that use that technology to replace them.  Then throw in the societial condemnation of discipline, and we're f**ked for the future!  Many kids today, while smarter than previous generations, truly have no sense of right, wrong, or common sense, in addition to a total and utter lack of respect.

And before any of you parents go off on the single guy with no kids... I did have stepkids that I raised from a very young age until my divorce (which was a hell of a lot longer than 6 months).  I took much more responsibility for teaching them right and wrong and discipling them than their mother did!

Not really getting how technology is to blame. Without technology we wouldnt have this great website where we can all communicate.
Now as far as this story is concerned. Its a shame...and my heart goes out to this kids family.
Honestly...I dont think this has anything to do with technology or videogames. It comes down to parenting. Pure and simple. Teach your kids right from wrong, be involved with them..give them positive reinforcement and be a role model for them. Video games, sports stars,rock stars are not role models and they have no responsibility to be one either...parents are.  Practice what you preach with your kids from DAY 1...
And time outs DO work. If you start them at age 2....if you try it when a kid is 8 years old then yes you will be laughed at . You are in control of your kids until they are 18 and many things can be taken away if they break the rules.
Parenting without hitting your kids takes time and patience...many people dont have that...or they are really just kids themselves raising kids.  or they have so many kids they cant devote enough time to raising them correctly.
Parents need to stop blaming society for why their kids are a certain way and take a look in the mirror. Society DOES play a role...if your involvement as a parent is lacking.


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Re: An absolute tragedy
« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2008, 06:29:42 PM »

Not really getting how technology is to blame. Without technology we wouldnt have this great website where we can all communicate.
Now as far as this story is concerned. Its a shame...and my heart goes out to this kids family.
Honestly...I dont think this has anything to do with technology or videogames. It comes down to parenting. Pure and simple. Teach your kids right from wrong, be involved with them..give them positive reinforcement and be a role model for them. Video games, sports stars,rock stars are not role models and they have no responsibility to be one either...parents are.  Practice what you preach with your kids from DAY 1...
And time outs DO work. If you start them at age 2....if you try it when a kid is 8 years old then yes you will be laughed at . You are in control of your kids until they are 18 and many things can be taken away if they break the rules.
Parenting without hitting your kids takes time and patience...many people dont have that...or they are really just kids themselves raising kids.  or they have so many kids they cant devote enough time to raising them correctly.
Parents need to stop blaming society for why their kids are a certain way and take a look in the mirror. Society DOES play a role...if your involvement as a parent is lacking.

couldn't agree more.

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Re: An absolute tragedy
« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2008, 09:09:39 PM »
To ALL of the SBG's that are much more than parents, chosing to be MOMS and DADS instead, Good for you guys and gals!  You know who you are. 

Mrs. BW and I do not have kids, but we cherish that limited time we have with our nieces and nephews dearly.  We try very hard to teach our young relatives right from wrong. 

My nephews and nieces still come and ask me for advice.  Part of me of is proud that these young men and women value my opinion, but part of me wonders why they can't talk to their Moms and Dads about the same things.  I tell them the honest truth, if I don't know the answer to a question, I tell them so.  I don't hand them a line of BS.  Young people can spot this a mile away. 

Sometimes being an uncle is tough, so I can only begin to imagine what it takes to raise children.  Moms and Dads have my total respect.

As a squad leader, and a platoon sergeant in the Army, I saw first hand what too much time playing video games does to young people.  I would try to get some of these barracks rats to go to the club and live a little, but nothing doing.  Nintendo was way too important.  Hey!  I've been a gamer since 1989, but in MODERATION!  Too much of anything isn't healthy.  I used to tell the guys in my platoon: "Donkey Kong won't help you get laid!"

For what it's worth, that's my 2 cents.

     


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Re: An absolute tragedy
« Reply #42 on: September 03, 2008, 03:26:59 AM »
I used to tell the guys in my platoon: "Donkey Kong won't help you get laid!"
Cmon Buck...you've never seen all the hot chicks hanging out beside the Donkey Kong machine
watching guys play ?  ^-^
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Re: An absolute tragedy
« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2008, 04:32:49 AM »
To ALL of the SBG's that are much more than parents, chosing to be MOMS and DADS instead, Good for you guys and gals!  You know who you are. 

Mrs. BW and I do not have kids, but we cherish that limited time we have with our nieces and nephews dearly.  We try very hard to teach our young relatives right from wrong. 

My nephews and nieces still come and ask me for advice.  Part of me of is proud that these young men and women value my opinion, but part of me wonders why they can't talk to their Moms and Dads about the same things.  I tell them the honest truth, if I don't know the answer to a question, I tell them so.  I don't hand them a line of BS.  Young people can spot this a mile away. 

Sometimes being an uncle is tough, so I can only begin to imagine what it takes to raise children.  Moms and Dads have my total respect.

As a squad leader, and a platoon sergeant in the Army, I saw first hand what too much time playing video games does to young people.  I would try to get some of these barracks rats to go to the club and live a little, but nothing doing.  Nintendo was way too important.  Hey!  I've been a gamer since 1989, but in MODERATION!  Too much of anything isn't healthy.  I used to tell the guys in my platoon: "Donkey Kong won't help you get laid!"

For what it's worth, that's my 2 cents.

     



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Re: An absolute tragedy
« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2008, 11:31:23 AM »
I used to tell the guys in my platoon: "Donkey Kong won't help you get laid!"
Cmon Buck...you've never seen all the hot chicks hanging out beside the Donkey Kong machine
watching guys play ?  ^-^
Yup!  They looked like they could beat up Donkey Kong too! ;D

 



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