The Surveillance Society

[BaldRob]

I have no doubt this thread will be pulled in a matter of hours now. Anything even remotely political or controversial is removed to the moderator thread.

The reason that we pull politicial/controversial/religious/etc posts is twofold:

1.  It is clearly against the posting guidelines under point 14 http://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/index.php?topic=723.0
2.  As a whole, Sly Bald Guys is a forum about balding and shaving your head and we aim to keep a friendly atmosphere.  Political topics or posts are very divisive and can bring down a forum.

Believe it or not, it is not some big Moderator conspiracy... we all have our beliefs and respect the beliefs of others.  However, to keep harmony within these hallowed e-walls, we pull posts from time to time.

[BALDANDRE]

I have no doubt this thread will be pulled in a matter of hours now. Anything even remotely political or controversial is removed to the moderator thread.

The reason that we pull politicial/controversial/religious/etc posts is twofold:

1.  It is clearly against the posting guidelines under point 14 http://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/index.php?topic=723.0
2.  As a whole, Sly Bald Guys is a forum about balding and shaving your head and we aim to keep a friendly atmosphere.  Political topics or posts are very divisive and can bring down a forum.

Believe it or not, it is not some big Moderator conspiracy... we all have our beliefs and respect the beliefs of others.  However, to keep harmony within these hallowed e-walls, we pull posts from time to time.

Eventhough I wasn't really paying attention to the thread, thanks Rob and the admin. for checking in on things...

this is a great place and things can get out of hand..not that they were, but you never know these days!

[Sgt. Pate]

So, getting back to bald heads, I wonder if being "sly" would cause you to "stand out" to those conducting the "surveillance"? 

[tomgallagher]

I think that peoples fears will cause them to surrender rights for security and they will not ever get those rights back.  They will likely not get the security they had hoped for either.  It has always happened that way in history.

"Those who are willing to sacrifice their basic liberties to assure their security deserve neither." - Ben Franklin

Couldn't agree with ya more Pate.

How's that for an old ass quote whose intrinsic veracity is wholly assumed, Tom?

Oh that's great. I'm really impressed...LOL

[SonOfKrypton]

I think that peoples fears will cause them to surrender rights for security and they will not ever get those rights back.  They will likely not get the security they had hoped for either.  It has always happened that way in history.

"Those who are willing to sacrifice their basic liberties to assure their security deserve neither." - Ben Franklin

Couldn't agree with ya more Pate.

How's that for an old ass quote whose intrinsic veracity is wholly assumed, Tom?

Oh that's great. I'm really impressed...LOL

Awesome.  Just like around hot women, my inherent worth is validated when you are impressed.  YES!!!!  Man.....That just made my day.

[SonOfKrypton]

So, getting back to bald heads, I wonder if being "sly" would cause you to "stand out" to those conducting the "surveillance"? 

I'll bet you we look more sinister to the camera watchers...So we probably get focused on more than others....Meh.

[schro]

So, getting back to bald heads, I wonder if being "sly" would cause you to "stand out" to those conducting the "surveillance"? 

THAT'S PROFILING!
Quick, I'm calling the ACLU!

[PigPen]

So, getting back to bald heads, I wonder if being "sly" would cause you to "stand out" to those conducting the "surveillance"? 

THAT'S PROFILING!
Quick, I'm calling the ACLU!

I had a problem similar to that pre-SLY. Used to get followed a lot by mall security. So we made it a game to see if we could lose them and how many it took to keep tabs on us.

[D.A.L.U.I.]

I had a law professor that believed that the 9th amendment to the Constitution was inclusive of the right to privacy in the individual.  It's an interesting legal arguement.  The 9th amendment reads:
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
The 5th prevents invasion for criminal investigation purposes, but the 9th goes further in my old professor's view!

[tomgallagher]

Wasn't J. Edgar Hoover building files on people back in the 20's and 30's. It probably has been going on forever.

[PigPen]

Wasn't J. Edgar Hoover building files on people back in the 20's and 30's. It probably has been going on forever.

Unfortunately, Tom is probably right. It's just a helluva lot easier now with the new technology.

[Marz]

Wasn't J. Edgar Hoover building files on people back in the 20's and 30's. It probably has been going on forever.

That, and dressing up like a pretty lady. 

[tomgallagher]

Hard to believe ain't it.

[Marz]

Well, not much surprises me these days... but I must say witch hunting communists in fishnets and stiletto heels is pushing the limits even by todays standards. 

[Sgt. Pate]

I think everyone profiles to some degree.

It's kind of ironic, when I was a LEO people didn't believe I was when I wasn't in uniform... after I was no longer a LEO and I went sly, I have been accused of being a cop several times!