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Earthlings Documentary
X The Hierophant:
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--- Quote from: X The Hierophant on January 30, 2008, 02:00:44 PM ---As for your comments on abortion, I do not think that topic falls within the scope of this documentary,
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You are correct...it doesn't fall within the scope of this documentary....but because of selective portrayal of so-called morality.
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--- Quote from: JDog on January 30, 2008, 06:16:07 PM ---This film, as poigant and eye opening as it is, chooses to leave out the issue of Abortion and focus solely on Mankinds exploitation of animals. Therein lies the problem. Robmeister said it well
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--- Quote from: JDog on January 30, 2008, 07:58:33 PM ---You will rarely if at all find an Animals Rights activist who is is also Pro-Life. Work that logic out
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Ok, so we are upset that abortion was not covered along with animal rights, and that many animal right activists (supposedly are pro-life).
I am a big fan of documentaries, and one trend I do see is that they usually only cover one major topic at a time. Is abortion an important issue? - absolutely. Should they have covered that in this documentary? - Of course not. I think that if this documentary tried to tackle the issue of abortion (which is an equally complex issue) you would have a 4 hour documentary instead of an 2 hour one. And why stop there? I mean if you cover animal rights and abortion what about the death penalty? So should the documentary be 6 hours to cover all three of these important issues? Genocide? Should we add that too? See the trend here. To make everyone happy should we have a documentary that lasts several days and attempts to tackle every issue concievable? This is a bit silly.
And if animal right's activists are supposedly pro-life, should we criticize pro-life activists because they are not typically (supposedly) against the death penalty? Instead of side-stepping issues, why not just take each issue individually and judge them on thier own merit. If you don't agree with a documentary, there is nothing wrong with that. But bringing in a totally unrelated topic to mask your disagreement with the issue presented is illogical.
Again, I would like to add that I never intended to participate in a debate here, but some of these comments are such that I am compelled to respond.
X The Hierophant:
--- Quote from: Tyler on January 30, 2008, 05:34:55 PM ---No need to apologize X. I think some people that aren't to exposed to a wide range of people that are vegetarians or vegans tend to associate them with the extremists that we often see on TV and who also associate themselves with other causes.
Thanks for posting up the film, I'm sure it will help those that are considering their freedom to choose to be a vegetarian or vegan.
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Thanks man. I also thought it was a good film and that a free link may be appreciated. 8)
--- Quote from: Cameron on January 30, 2008, 08:04:08 PM ---
With all respect to X (this was a great thing to post), but more generally, I wonder sometimes whether these sorts of "documentaries" are worthwhile. After all, hollywood can make me (at least for a moment) want to leave my life and go be Rambo, against all rational arguments. Couldn't they have at least as powerful of an effect on our politics?
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Point well taken. There is no doubt that any documentary attempts to sway it's viewers to adopt the viewpoint presented. One should always keep this in mind. Excellent point!
On a side-note I need to go check the new Rambo flick this weekend... I know it will be cheesy and predictable, but I have always been a sucker for the Rambo/Rocky films.
--- Quote from: JDog on January 30, 2008, 06:16:07 PM ---
I think strong debate on issues is good for this forum. If everyone agreed with each other about every single issue it would be quite a boring place.
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Agreed! O0
Robmeister:
Interestingly relevent article on CNN this morning:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/30/undercover.slaughter.video/index.html
BaldRob:
Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but I would like to remind all involved in this discussion to review the Posting Guidelines topic, specifically item 14:
http://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/index.php?topic=723.0
Cameron:
--- Quote from: BaldRob on January 31, 2008, 08:25:27 AM ---Sorry to rain on everyone's parade, but I would like to remind all involved in this discussion to review the Posting Guidelines topic, specifically item 14:
http://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/index.php?topic=723.0
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Thanks for the reminder. I apologize for my part in the breach :)
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