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Earthlings Documentary
Robmeister:
I'll check that out first chance I get. Thanks for sharing.
I will say, before even watching it that Joaquin will have to be EXTREMELY convincing on the morality or lack-thereof of eating meat.
I'm all for veganism for health reasons and all that. But MORALITY? PUHHHLEEEEEEZ.
X The Hierophant:
--- Quote from: Robmeister on January 30, 2008, 07:41:31 AM ---I'm all for veganism for health reasons and all that. But MORALITY? PUHHHLEEEEEEZ.
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Veganism is a personal decision that to me does have ethical/moral implications (though I must admit the health benefits are a bonus).
I wasn't trying to convince anyone or change anyone's mind.
I just thought Earthlings was a well done documentary and was surprised to find a link where one could view it for free instead of renting it from the video store or purchasing it from Best Buy/Amazon/Etc.
My apologies if I offended.
X The Hierophant:
--- Quote from: BALDANDRE on January 29, 2008, 03:31:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: X The Hierophant on January 29, 2008, 03:18:32 PM ---
Keeping that in mind you don't "need" dairy products to survive (get enough protien, etc).
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Yea, I agree...totally...
but in a daily routine without dairy (which includes baked things, right?) ..eating and enjoying what you eat on a daily-weekly basis MIGHT get tough...
I love the soy milk and non dairy creamers and have tried and liked soy cream cheese..but all the added high fructose sugars...argggg!....
No negative vibes here....just looking out for your back bro ;)!
So if you can swing it, MORE POWER to ya!
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I hear ya bro O0
Robmeister:
--- Quote from: X The Hierophant on January 30, 2008, 08:44:40 AM ---My apologies if I offended.
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NAHHHH, brutha.....no offense whatsoever. It's just that my knee-jerk reaction to "morality" being connected to eating meat struck me as rather absurd, that's all.
I immediately envisioned the morally-challenged, crotch-flashin', marriage-busting, Tommy Lee-sucking, coke-sniffin', fetus-aborting Hollywood crowd touting "morality" as to why they don't eat meat.
But I shouldn't prejudge without watching and listening.
Personal convictions is probably what we're talking about here. Lemme give'r a looksy.
Marz:
Most Vegans I have met are not the healthiest... most are emaciated, pale, skinny (not in a good way) and are sick about once a month. If you ever try to do anything with a vegan, forget about eating... We have walked the streets of some of the greatest cities on the west coast looking for suitable food for a vegan diet... and well it only exists in the supermarket and even then it is looked upon with a skeptical eye. Watching someone that is obviously starving deny themselves nutrition and watching you eat is ridiculous. Many I have met are borderline militant as well. All in all it seems that their lifestyle controls them and not the other way around. Maybe that is just the type of Vegan I have met...
I do know some very healthy / happy Vegetarians and the healthiest are those that eat fish. One friend has been Vegetarian for over 20 years and you would never know, he has just recently had fish a couple of times. I also know a guy that has never had meat EVER... he is about 35 years old and his mother raised him vegetarian, he is quite happy with it and once again, you would never know. He is also a great cook and has never had to approve a menu before going to a restaurant.
I just don't understand why everything has to be so black and white (other than folks wanting to label themselves) with things that in no way need to be. Everything in moderation, don't eat what you don't like, but to starve yourself because you have labeled yourself a Vegetarian or Vegan is just plain ridiculous.
Just remember you cant help a damn thing as an emaciated twig with no drive or energy... and if cows were carnivores... they would have you for lunch in a second and not feel the slightest guilt about it.
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