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Re: America's political system
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2011, 04:46:28 PM »
    Why does Palin scare you???  The left over here hates her and a large portion of conservatives love her.
Have you listened to her speak? Scary, scary, scary!

With all due respect to Razor, she doesn't need any help from the media to make me quiver with fear at the thought of her anywhere near the Oval Office.


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Re: America's political system
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2011, 05:35:15 PM »
The US media is owned by Disney, Westinghouse, General Electric, Murdoc...every one of those multi-national corporations are the worst kins of  "Leftists".

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Re: America's political system
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2011, 07:58:13 PM »
    Why does Palin scare you???  The left over here hates her and a large portion of conservatives love her.

Because the leftist media has vilified her mercilessly.

I watched "Media Malpractice" (streamed from Netflix) which is a great example of how the media spins there own version of events.  I highly recommend it.  Just because you see and hear someone say something doesn't mean that you got the whole context!  In one instance, they explained how you could have learned more from Saturday Night Live about certain political events then you could have from NBC's "real" news broadcasts.

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Re: America's political system
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2011, 08:14:29 PM »
I only have one thing to say on this thread......nothing.


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Re: America's political system
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2011, 08:35:46 PM »
    Why does Palin scare you???  The left over here hates her and a large portion of conservatives love her.

Because the leftist media has vilified her mercilessly.

I watched "Media Malpractice" (streamed from Netflix) which is a great example of how the media spins there own version of events.  I highly recommend it.  Just because you see and hear someone say something doesn't mean that you got the whole context!  In one instance, they explained how you could have learned more from Saturday Night Live about certain political events then you could have from NBC's "real" news broadcasts.

I bought Media Malpractice when it first came out....it's eye opening. Ziegler does a great job in this production.


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Re: America's political system
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2011, 08:45:41 PM »
I only have one thing to say on this thread......nothing.

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Re: America's political system
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2011, 09:37:08 PM »
Well you're all getting too political for me. I dont understand 94.3% of what most of you said :o

I find SP scary because, to me, when she speaks, there's an underlying 'hatred' in her voice and in her attitude. I dont know what the hatred is for, but she seems like a very angry woman, and a very hateful woman, and for me, when someone is potentially angry and hateful, they have the potential to be dangerous. Sometimes, things like passion and determination can come across as a type of hatred, but in her case, at least to me, it comes across purely as hatred, and that scares me.

However it has to be said that I feel exactly the same about Judge Judy :o and as far as I know, she's not a politician, so as I said earlier, my feelings about SP arent political, because I dont know anything about politics. I just dont like people who seem to exude hatred. They scare me, because I wonder what their real motivations are, and what they'd do with their hatred if ever they were in a position to let the hatred loose.

Just like (I assume) the rest of you, I'm eligible to vote in US presidential elections, and I'm also eligible to vote in UK general elections, but I've never voted in my life, because what would be the point of voting when I dont even know what the difference is between dem and rep? I have absolutely no interest in politics, on either side of the Atlantic.

So, to clarify for one last time - Sarah Palin, Judge Judy, Pee Wee Herman, Bono (of U2 fame), Hillary Clinton, Robert Mugabe (president of Zimbabwe), Meg Ryan, Grace Jones, and a few other well-known people scare me. Its not because they're politicians or musicians or morticians or beauticians. Its because they come across to me as scary people.

I'm a fairly intelligent man, and I know quite a bit about quite a bit, but when it comes to politics, I get bored rigid. I started this thread purely to ask if America has only two political parties, because I've only ever heard two parties mentioned. In the course of the thread, I mentioned Sarah Palin scares me. Thats about the extent of my interest in her and, separately, in politics ;)


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Re: America's political system
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2011, 09:56:37 PM »

I find SP scary because, to me, when she speaks, there's an underlying 'hatred' in her voice and in her attitude. I dont know what the hatred is for, but she seems like a very angry woman, and a very hateful woman, and for me, when someone is potentially angry and hateful, they have the potential to be dangerous. Sometimes, things like passion and determination can come across as a type of hatred, but in her case, at least to me, it comes across purely as hatred, and that scares me.


I think it probably is passion and determination that you're misinterpreting because I've never heard her say anything hateful and I don't think she's a particularly angry person -- although she has expressed some justifiable anger at some of the outrageous things that have been said about her in her children in the press.

I have no problem if people disagree with Palin's -- or anyone else's -- politics and if they want to take issue with her ideas.  But Sarah Palin and her family have been subjected to some of the most vicious and outrageous attacks that I've ever seen -- which is pretty much standard operating procedure for the left wing media's treatment of conservatives.  If you don't tow the liberal line, you'll be painted as unintelligent and an extremist. 

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Re: America's political system
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2011, 10:10:12 PM »
I dont know about any of that, X Man, because I dont follow the news stories. I have no idea whats been said about her or her family.

I remember when she first came onto the scene (I dont remember when that was, but I guess it was during the last elections?), one of the news channels here showed her giving a speech. Nobody (here) had ever heard of her before, and she had a completely clean slate, and I remember thinking, just from that very first time I saw her, 'wow, thats a scary/angry/hateful woman'. Not a scary/angry/hateful politician, but a scary/angry/hateful woman.

You could be right, maybe I am misinterpreting, but I kinda dont think so.

Another thing that does scare me, I must admit, is that it doesnt seem possible to mention a political figure without the conversation becoming political (and thats not aimed at you or anyone in particular, its just the way it is, or at least the way I perceive it to be, certainly in America). Gordon Brown, the ex-prime minister of the UK, looks - to me - like the Hunchback of Notre Dame, or what I perceive the hunchback should look like. Its not a political comment, its an 'I think he looks like Quasimodo' comment, so IMO, things dont always need to get political just because we happen to be talking about someone who happens to be a politician. I've never once made any reference to SP's political views, because I literally have no idea what her political views are, and quite honestly, I have no interest in them (or in anyone else's).

Anyway, you're all a lot more clued up than I am when it comes to politics, so if you carry the thread forward, enjoy yourselves :) but I wont be able to participate because its all gone way over my head.

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Re: America's political system
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2011, 06:20:44 AM »
A good rule of thumb around here is to stay away from anything that smacks of religion or politics or else you are going to have a fight (argument) on your hands.

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Re: America's political system
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2011, 09:20:43 AM »
Actually, I find that SBG is much better than average about dealing with "hot topics" than other places.

There's obviously a wide variety of political, religious, and cultural differences here, and yet for the most past, everyone is treated with respect. RazorX obviously has a vastly different opinion of Palin than I do, for example, yet I count him a friend and respect his right to have a different opinion than mine. I feel I get the same respect from the general membership here.

That's rare on the webs these days.

Maybe there's something about being sly that helps mental clarity without all that hair getting in the way.... ;)


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Re: America's political system
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2011, 09:23:31 AM »
Well I dont care who y'all vote for. I think you're all very, very nice people :D  :@`

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Re: America's political system
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2011, 09:23:46 AM »

Maybe there's something about being sly that helps mental clarity without all that hair getting in the way.... ;)


Yeah - that must be it!  ;D  8)
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Re: America's political system
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2011, 09:24:21 AM »
Well I dont care who y'all vote for. I think you're all very, very nice people :D  :@`

And we like you too, GSGUK  O:O
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Re: America's political system
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2011, 09:24:48 AM »
Well I dont care who y'all vote for. I think you're all very, very nice people :D  :@`

And we like you too, GSGUK  O:O

You smoothie you :D  :@`

 



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