How 'bout dat Tiger Woods?

[buddha]

I'm amazed that this subject hasn't been opened here yet because everybody knows who Tiger is. His public persona is, apparently, different than his private although his private is rapidly becoming public. (Add or drop a letter in that last sentence here or there and it's kinda funny).
What does everybody think about this?
My thinking is, as of today, that his sponsorships might begin to suffer a bit. MSN had a headline that said that his list of mistresses keeps growing. Right or wrong I think he was a dope to go as far down this road as the headlines indicate. Not that he will ever, for the rest of his life, experience a day when he won't have enough cash in his pocket to walk in and buy a Buick. He has been extremely smart about managing his money. But, when the wife gets tired of all the exposure.....what then. I understand that she is already having her lawyer re-write the pre-nup. I can't imagine he'd be stoopid enough to sign on for that, especially now that the landslide has begun. Plus, I read that Elin (I think that's his wife's name) has a deal in the works for him to pay her $5mil to stay in the marriage. So even if he had just one tryst that would be, potentially, the most expensive piece of a$$ on record.
It kinda reminds me of the Michael Vick/dogfight promoter fiasco.
What makes guys in these positions do such incredibly stupid things?

[schro]

The agreement that his wife has is greater than $5 mil, but that's not the point.

The Lovely Mrs. Schro and I have discussed this at length. I'm not condoning adultery at all, but I wouldn't have been surprised in the slightest if Tiger slipped up once while jet setting around the world and his lovely wife was at home. However, to maintain (at least) three relationships with women all over the place shows what an absolute scum bag he is.

I've always admired his golf game, but his actions off the golf course are inexcusable.
As a fan of the game of golf, I always appreciate good play. However from now on, I will root for him to miss the cut whenever possible.

It's like my cheering for baseball. My two favorite baseball teams are the Oakland A's and whoever plays the San Francisco Giants.

Now, my favorite golfers are Darren Clarke (Eurpoean Tour), Stewart Cink (He's a SBG) and whoever is head-to-head with Tiger Woods.

[Razor X]

The Lovely Mrs. Schro and I have discussed this at length. I'm not condoning adultery at all, but I wouldn't have been surprised in the slightest if Tiger slipped up once while jet setting around the world and his lovely wife was at home. However, to maintain (at least) three relationships with women all over the place shows what an absolute scum bag he is.

That's exactly how I feel about it.  A one-night stand in a moment of weakness is one thing, but there's no excuse for these long-term relationships.  I don't understand why these rich celebritites are so stupid; surely they must know that these things are always found out in the end, and they never end well. It can be hard to say no, but they need to make sure they don't put themselves into compromising situations in the first place.

I think part of the problem may be accumulating such wealth at such a young age. He can buy anything he wants at any time and there's really  nothing to strive for in that respect.  So I suppose it's human nature to want what we can't have, so perhaps the challenge of trying to get away with something you shouldn't is part of the attraction. 

[tomgallagher]

As we probably all know, when we start thinking with the little head instead of the big head. we tend to get ourselves in a lot of trouble. In Tiger Woods case, a lot of very expensive trouble.

[D.A.L.U.I.]

What makes guys in these positions do such incredibly stupid things?

Well one explanation I heard years ago was that the male body has only so much blood, and since an erection requires blood, it has to come from the brain!

His ability to play golf does not, for me at least, translate into any innate sense of morality--but America seems to obsess on the between the sheets lives of public figures, political, sports and entertainment.  IMO, what they do in that regard, provided it doesn't affect their professional performance, just isn't important--funny most definitely, but otherwise--it's their life, not mine.

[Mikekoz13]

I've never been a fan of Tiger's because I've always felt that there was a lot more going on with him than it appeared. I think that he has gotten a free pass on a lot of things because he is so talented.
Even casual golf fans know that his temper erupts on the course often. I also just recently read that the "F-Bombs" fly freely from his lips..... OK if you're hacking with the fellas but not OK if you're playing in a public Tournament with fans everywhere.

I agree with the other guys..... a quick slip is one thing..... but extended relationships with multiple women is just stupid. How did he think that he, one of the most recognizable faces in the WORLD, would possibly get away with this?? Answer: A huge ego, a sense of entitlement, and with these types of very rich and talented guys sometimes the "never enough" theory comes into play.

[Tyler]

I also don't condone cheating, but I do have an explanation that a friend gave to me this weekend that seemed to make some sense.

My friend attended Stanford the same time Tiger did and was a water polo player.  She said that while he was there he was looked at as the geeky golfer kid.  Sure he was an "athlete" but he didn't get any attention from the student body for it.  She even talked about how he'd get kicked out of the gym by the women's water polo team.  Basically, the girls weren't flocking to him like they were the football and basketball players. 

Fast forward a couple years later and now he's a golf superstar and worth tens of millions of dollars.  Girls are now throwing themselves at him.  I'm sure he gets blatantly hit on in front of his wife.  Again, I'm not defending his actions, but put yourself in his shoes.  Imagine if you went from occasionally having a girl flirt with you to having several every time you enter a room with the public in it.  And on top of flirting, they are straight up slipping you their phone number.

Just something to think about.

[schro]

Sorry Tyler, not buying it.

[buddha]

I feel safe here in bringing out this particular point, that of comparing what each party brings to the table. This argument infuriates women in general but I think it to be true, never the less.
When Billy Jeff Clinton had his fling with Monica Lewinski my opinion was "the most powerful man in the world" has to pick on some 21 year old intern who works for him. Did he think for one second that she would hesitate to come clean (maybe a bad choice of words here) if telling the truth meant a book deal and who knows how much money for appearances on teevee. Same thing with El Tigre. If he had selected women who had achieved a high level status on their own and were independently wealthy and had nothing to gain from the thing going public he would have had some assurance of remaining discreet. But he picks up a pancake waitress from I-Hop or wherever and a cocktail hostess from a private club. What did he think was gonna happen? The first time they're subjected to scrutiny of course they're gonna spill the beans because they have the potential to make millions off of the fact that they got bedded by the famous Tiger Woods.

[cvasara]

Well one explanation I heard years ago was that the male body has only so much blood, and since an erection requires blood, it has to come from the brain!

Heard/learned the same thing.  "Men don't have enough blood in their bodies to keep two heads working at the same time.   Make sure it's the right head.

[D.A.L.U.I.]

This concern whether it's a one night stand or an affair by government leaders and celebrities is really a relatively recent public concern.  Franklin D. Roosevelt was a "womanizer" and probably would have really had more if he hadn't been a victim of polio, Eisenhower and his driver had an affair during WWII. Kennedy--probably most of them, Clinton, Carter--though he did it in his heart, and then Elizabeth Taylor, nearly as many lovers and husbands as diamonds, the list is endless.
 Earlier, many public figures had long standing relationships outside their wedding beds and no one, particularly the press, thought much of it.  There is the famous case of King Edward VII's last mistress, Alice Keppel, who visited his death bed at the King's request.  Camilla Bowes, second wife of Prince Charles was her great-granddaughter and there is of course the question of her relationship to Charles during his marriage to Diana!  Is this relationship DNA mandated?  .
I have always failed to understand why marital fidelity among government leaders and other celebrities became so important in the late 20th century America. It strikes me as leaning toward an unhealthy voyeurism on the part of society as a whole.  Europeans, until recently, didn't care at all.  Perhaps our Puritan forefathers are reaching forward from the grave, or maybe the news media really just has to fill time in broadcasting and inches in print--and there is a relatively finite matter of real substantial news.  Whatever, it has led to hypocrisy by our society as a whole and IMO serves no useful purpose.  I found this quote, "Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo" H.G. Wells and I think it may fit many of the most shrill advocates of this Puritan voyeur mentality.  Think how many times those who have preached "family values" have later come to grief as their own transgressions are revealed.  Activities between consenting adults isn't news--it might even be the way nature intended to keep our gene pool varied.

[Tyler]

Sorry Tyler, not buying it.

Not buying that it happens?  Or not buying that it would be a tough issue to deal with and be faithful at the same time?

[tomgallagher]

How about the HIV/AIDS question in this day and age. Condoms, yes I know but how many bareback riders are there out there. One of the benefits of remaining faithful to each other.

[Razor X]

I also don't condone cheating, but I do have an explanation that a friend gave to me this weekend that seemed to make some sense.

My friend attended Stanford the same time Tiger did and was a water polo player.  She said that while he was there he was looked at as the geeky golfer kid.  Sure he was an "athlete" but he didn't get any attention from the student body for it.  She even talked about how he'd get kicked out of the gym by the women's water polo team.  Basically, the girls weren't flocking to him like they were the football and basketball players. 

Fast forward a couple years later and now he's a golf superstar and worth tens of millions of dollars.  Girls are now throwing themselves at him.  I'm sure he gets blatantly hit on in front of his wife.  Again, I'm not defending his actions, but put yourself in his shoes.  Imagine if you went from occasionally having a girl flirt with you to having several every time you enter a room with the public in it.  And on top of flirting, they are straight up slipping you their phone number.

Just something to think about.

A friend of mine said something similar to this.  I think there is some validity to it, but again -- a slip-up in a moment of weakness is one thing, but a three year affair is quite another.  You'd think that when the moment of passion had passed that common sense would prevail.  He's one of the wealthiest and most recognizable men in the world; things like this can only end badly.   And it's not like he didn't have a perfectly hot wife to go home to.  I mean, I can sort of understand why FDR went looking elsewhere.  Tiger, not so much.   

[D.A.L.U.I.]

I also don't condone cheating, but I do have an explanation that a friend gave to me this weekend that seemed to make some sense.

My friend attended Stanford the same time Tiger did and was a water polo player.  She said that while he was there he was looked at as the geeky golfer kid.  Sure he was an "athlete" but he didn't get any attention from the student body for it.  She even talked about how he'd get kicked out of the gym by the women's water polo team.  Basically, the girls weren't flocking to him like they were the football and basketball players. 

Fast forward a couple years later and now he's a golf superstar and worth tens of millions of dollars.  Girls are now throwing themselves at him.  I'm sure he gets blatantly hit on in front of his wife.  Again, I'm not defending his actions, but put yourself in his shoes.  Imagine if you went from occasionally having a girl flirt with you to having several every time you enter a room with the public in it.  And on top of flirting, they are straight up slipping you their phone number.

Just something to think about.

A friend of mine said something similar to this.  I think there is some validity to it, but again -- a slip-up in a moment of weakness is one thing, but a three year affair is quite another.  You'd think that when the moment of passion had passed that common sense would prevail.  He's one of the wealthiest and most recognizable men in the world; things like this can only end badly.   And it's not like he didn't have a perfectly hot wife to go home to.  I mean, I can sort of understand why FDR went looking elsewhere.  Tiger, not so much.   

It's hard to understand human sexual appetites--I mean Princess Di if nothing else was one fine example of female sexuality in my book--those legs, oh my--but I have to stop or the Mods will zap me.  Then that old horse Camilla--she's got to have some really good stuff to get around her looks--maybe Charlie likes it dark all the time--and w/ her wrinkles it's a good option.