I heard on the news tonight that a guy was decapitated on a bus.A 40 year old man started stabbing a teenager who was asleep next to him on the bus. He then decapitated him and held the head up to the horrified passengers.When the police arrived he threw the head at their feet.They caught him when he tried to escape threw an open window.

It almost brought tears to my eyes because all I kept thinking about was that poor kid with his whole life ahead of him and now what his parents have to live with.The attack was totally unprovoked.

I don't care how sick this bastard is because he is a menace to society.In cases like this ,I say, Give him the death penalty.That will be one less danger in the world.Nowadays they commit them to asylums but that's not good enough. He is no good to anyone so for his sake and ours,get rid of this vermin.I'm totally disgusted hearing this incident.

He deserves a slow and torturous death.

I agree with you Jer. Now standby for the shitstorm.

Could you imagine really, if EVERY citizen on that bus were armed and all started turning and shooting at the subject as he was perpetrating the act?  Think about how devastating that would have been, the amount of stray rounds all over.

On the other hand, if every citizen on that bus were armed, the crime might not have ever been committed in the first place.  Knowing that potential victims were armed and able to fight back might deter a lot of criminals.

Or if guns were more readily available and "everyone had one" --- the killer might have had one too.....  and would have killed even more people.....

just sayin..........

However I don't think that the gun control issue is a simple one.   It's a given that Canada has significantly lower violent crime rates per capita.    But we also have a different society, different mores and societal principles than the US... so we really can't attribute it all to gun control.

It's thinking like this that keeps the citizens of your country held as victims that can not defend themselves.  Your country has had gun control so long that you have forgotten what it is like to have it.  This is why we here in the USA defend our right to carry. 

Don't you think it is better to have a firearm available to defend your self and not need it, than to need it and not have it?  Like car insurance, you don't run out and get it because you think your going to have an accident or auto theft... you carry it because it can happen when you least expect it.

More on this story

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,395781,00.html

Police Identify Suspect in Canada Bus Stabbing, Decapitation; Friends Identify Victim
Friday, August 01, 2008


July 31: Police investigate the scene around a Greyhound bus near Portage La Prairie, Manitoba, Canada.

TORONTO — Police on Friday identified the man who witnesses say stabbed and beheaded a passenger aboard a Greyhound bus traveling across the Canadian Prairies.

Sgt. Brian Edmonds said that 40-year-old Vince Weiguang Li, of Edmonton, Alberta, has been charged with second degree murder. Li is due to appear in court Friday.

The Canadian Press reported that the victim's friends identified him as Tim McLean, a 22-year-old carnival worker. Authorities have not released his name and Edmonds would not confirm his identity. An autopsy is scheduled for Friday.

A Facebook group page called "R.I.P. Tim" was started after news of the attack.

Witnesses said the victim was stabbed dozens of times in the apparently unprovoked attack Wednesday night aboard the bus as it traveled a desolate stretch of the TransCanada Highway about 12 miles from Portage La Prairie, Manitoba.

They said the attacker then severed his seat mate's head, displayed it and then began cutting up the body as passengers fled in horror.

"We heard this bloodcurdling scream and turned around, and the guy was standing up, stabbing this guy repeatedly," Caton said.

Caton said the driver stopped the bus when he became aware of the attack and passengers raced off. A short while later, Caton said he re-boarded along with the bus driver and a trucker who had stopped to see what was happening.

He said the suspect had the victim on the floor of the bus and "was cutting his head off" with a large hunting knife.

"When he was attacking him, he was calm," said Caton. "There was no rage or anything. He was just like a robot stabbing the guy."

The attacker turned toward them and the three men quickly left the bus, blocking the door as the attacker slashed at them through an opening. Caton said the driver disabled the vehicle after the attacker tried to drive it away.

As the three guarded the door with a crow bar and a hammer, the attacker went back to the body and calmly came to the front of the bus to show off the head, Caton said.

Cody Olmstead, another passenger, said the man "dropped the head and went back and started cutting the body." Olmstead said the man later use the head to taunt police.

Olmstead said many were watching the movie "The Legend of Zorro" when the violence erupted.

Greyhound spokeswoman Abby Wambaugh said there were 37 passengers aboard.

The victim had been on the Winnipeg, Manitoba-bound bus since Edmonton. Caton said the attacker boarded the bus in Brandon, Manitoba, about 80 miles west of Portage La Prairie.

The suspect had been on the bus about an hour and initially did not sit near the victim, Caton said. But he changed seats after a rest stop.

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Sorry J.B. but thats a fallacious argument.  Canadians are not victims unable to defend themselves. 

First of all the the situation in question is not a typical -- defend yourself from crime scenario -- this is a complete psychopath who killed his seat mate -- he was likely fatally stabbed and hours away from medical help before anyone could even think about what to do.

Secondly in Canada we don't have a lot of violent crime to defend ourselves from,  We are a much less violetn culture and the United States has had a much higher rate of  violent crime than Canada.

Murders with Firearms          8x more in the US    

Murders with Handguns        14.5x

Robberies with Guns             3.5X
   
Overall Homicide rate            3.6X

% of homicides with firearms 2.5X

Statistics compiled from Centre for Justice Statistics; FBI Uniform Crime Reporting Data, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada Homicide Survey; Research and Statistics Division Department of Justice (Kwing Hung) June 2001


   

And we have what, about 10 times the population that you do?