I was butchered by the hair transplant "industry" and I can't get justice.Learn

• I was butchered by the hair transplant "industry" and I can't get justice.Learn by john36 on 14 Nov, 2008 17:40
• Hello everyone
  I am a new member and I am here for your HELP to educate people not do do the same mistake that I did,getting hair transplant.This mission costs me great humility.It is not easy to admit to one self that the biggest mistake in one's life was made because of vanity.
  I am on the hair transplant netwoork fighting alone,against all overthere.Come,get membership and express your opinions.I am qualified to join your site .I shave bald now,with all scars from surgery exposed.
  
  I say,MOST,the vast majority of HT doctors,if not all of them,violate USA laws and expose their patients to danger,that results,in most cases to a butchery of a human being,without consequences for the surgeon.
   What I claim is assertion focused on the (non existance of)
   ethic in the HT Industry.It is assertion pertaining to the VAST majority of HT surgeons.(in fact I don't know of any HT surgeon who does not excercise habitual practices prohibited by law as I will describe in my post).
  Some of you have already,like me,undergone HT surgery,so you will know what I am talking about because you will recognize that in fact what I say is true.
  
  Some of you are thinking about having HT surgery
  
  and I recomend NO  .run like hell from it
  
  here it is:
  I posted this questions on their web site.No one answered them;
  A.
  1.How many of you personally evaluate the patient sufficiently so you could formulate an appropriate pre-operative diagnosis, and how many of you use "consultant" non medical person to do it for you? In adition and related to thishow many of you explain pros and cons of HT surgery so patient inteligently can decide about his options (informed consent) and how many of you give that to the "consultant" as well?
  
  2. How many of you perform or personally supervise all aspects of the surgery?Including placement of the grafts in the receptor sites?And how many of you carve the patient,take the strip,suture the wound,make incisions (holes) in patient head and then leave the surgical room and patient and leave the rest to the "surgical technicians"?Do you have in other words, aspects of the surgery outside of your supervision performed or supervised by another qualified surgeon with the consent of the patient?
  
  3. How many of you fail to personally perform post-operative medical care?How many of you delegate post-operative medical care to a non-qualified medical professional or to a non medical proffesional at all?
  
  4. Do you recklessly delegate medical tasks in violation of the Administrative Codes in your states?
  
  5.Does any of you negligently and recklessly delegate the tasks of selecting the donor site to harvest the hair follicles for transplant in the preceptor site by letting the "surgical technicians"choose the location of the same by shaving and preparing patient just before surgery?
  
  6.Do you and how many of you negligently and recklessly and ILLEGALY delegate the tasks of administering anesthesia to patient to persons not qualified under your state law? (everywhere in USA it is a law only DOCTOR can administer anesthesia)
  
  7. How many of you negligently and recklessly delegate the tasks of preparing the donor grafts, and insertion of the donor grafts into the surgically prepared receptor sites ,with your supervision ,to your "surgical technicians"?How many of you negligently and recklessly delegate the tasks of preparing the donor grafts, and insertion of the donor grafts into the surgically prepared receptor sites ,WITHOUT your supervision ,to your "surgical technicians"while you chill outside the surgical room for hours?In violation of your administrative laws of your state
  
  8. How many of you have never seen the patient untill just before surgery and therefore Lack Informed Consent in Violation of the Law in your state?
  
  9. How many of you have "surgical technicians" engaged in the practice of medicine and surgery without the appropriate certificate from the State Medical Board in your state,in violation of the law in your state?
  
  I told them
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  B.This questions are for the HT experts that post on this forum.
  
  C.If you answer NO we don't do it...reply to me please I wanna talk to you.However I doubt that any of you will.
  
  D.Let me tell you something about YOUR standard of CARE .As long as ANY of you physicians think that you can successfully pretend that you are ignorant of,what common people,(like for example some jury would be consisted of), knows, which is,abandoning patient,,"surgical technicians" giving anesthesia....doing the whole surgery in fact, while Surgeon is somewhere else,"Consultants" playing doctor on patients,,leaving "surgical technicians determine where doctor will carve someones head..etc etc (I am sure I did not mention the rest,which is allot more,which I could ,but why ,when you don't want to know the story)is not care YOU IN MY EYES ARE AIR BALOONS.Because I know that conducts as such are disgusting violations of patient rights and abuse,resulting in butchery on the MAJORITY oh HT patients (customers).And when some disfigured patient wants to seek justice in Court,none of you will dare to say the obvious,that conducts described above are not ,are forbidden to be,considered as a standard of care.ANY REPLY DOCTORS?
  Posts: 7 | Registered: November 05, 2008"
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  Then the moderator on the web site wrote me this:
   
  Falceros - Associate Publisher
  
  Associate Publisher and Forum Moderator
  
  Follicular Grand Wizard
  
    Posted November 06, 2008 08:12 PM  Hide Post
  John,
  
  Thanks for creating a new thread but I'm a little confused. Are you targeting hair transplant clinics with your post or forum members?
  
  From reading through your first post, you appear to be addressing both. This doesn't make sense considering our forum is made up mostly of hair loss suffering male and female patients however, a few surgeons do regularly contribute.
  
  If you'd like to discuss medical ethics, feel free. However, if you are attempting to corner the entire hair transplant industry and accuse it of corruption, I don't feel that you will have much success.
  
  I do agree that some surgeons deserve to be called out publicly for questionable techniques and marketing tactics. But there are a number of quality and ethical clinics regularly and properly caring for patients and putting out great results.
  
  With any surgery, there are certainly risks, and no doctor bats a thousand. The key is informed consent.
  
  I know you mentioned that you are a dissatisfied hair transplant patient. Why don't you take the time to share your personal experience and photos and perhaps we can help you.
  
  Best wishes,
  
  Bill (Falc)
  
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  Ignored post by Falceros - Associate Publisher posted November 06, 2008 08:12 PM  Show Post
   
  john36
  Hard Core Real Hair Club Member
  
    Posted November 06, 2008 08:22 PM 
  
   
  
  I am now to the point that I am openly and publicly threatened I will be banned from the site.
  
  Get your butts and come here  :
  
  http://hair-restoration-info.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2566060861/m/5981000204
  
  
  http://hair-restoration-info.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3466060861/m/7131061204
  
  
  open accounts and lets bring the battle to them,with arguments,and reason.Lets end the completely lawless part of the medical field that lurks for pray under the protective shield of the noble profession of a physician.
  
  I will wait for you.
  
  john36
  
  
  
  

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• #1 by time2shine on 14 Nov, 2008 17:59
• Quote from: john36 on 14 Nov, 2008 17:40

  I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice.
  

  
  John, I'm glad you're here.
  I'm sorry for your experiences with the HT industry, and the above quote probably sums all those guys up in a sentence.  I'm just suprised that some of these guys can sleep at night, feasting on people's insecurities.... without medical experience, nonetheless.
  
  I'm going to take sometime in the next week to visit that forum, and put in my two cents.
  
  Welcome to SBG, you'll like it much better here.
• #2 by john36 on 14 Nov, 2008 18:28
• Time 2 shine:
  Thanks,glad to be here.
  
  Any of you know about reporter to publish my scary story,let me know.I am
  your man.
  
  If I prevent one kid to go to those vultures,it is worth the humiliation exposing my
  self and my mistake.
  
  I am not looking for emphaty.If you read my post butchered you will know that.I want to attract lawyers,(not for me,I have one) and present them the idea consisting of valid argument that would by pass the need of another "surgeon" to state that standard of care was breached so one can file a law suit for malpractice against this doctors (any doctor in a malpractice case,by aplying the doctrine of res ipsa ...).It is in my post.
  
  thanks
• #3 by marty22 on 14 Nov, 2008 18:41
• john: been there done that 31 years go. glad to have another person to share my experiences with. feel free to write me at m45922@aol.com to discuss and read some of my hair tranplant posts.
• #4 by Brkeatr on 14 Nov, 2008 19:14
• Wow.....that's terrible....I'm at a loss for words right now.....best of luck to you bro....!
• #5 by warhawk on 14 Nov, 2008 19:26
• hey john:  1st of all welcome 2 the sly fraternity.  i'm sorry that U had 2 go thru that  HT "nightmare".  however...i'm glad that U saw the light & embraced your baldness.   isn't it a very liberating feeling?   jump in & join the fun by being an active member of the best forum on the internet.  we look 4ward 2 your future posts.  keep us posted on all the reactions of your new look.
  
  WARHAWK
• #6 by Mikekoz13 on 15 Nov, 2008 19:53
• John-
  
  Welcome to SBG! This is the type of place you want to be.
  
• #7 by PE#1 on 16 Nov, 2008 08:39
• Welcome brother.  Sorry to hear about your past issue.  Glad you found us. 
• #8 by Tyler on 16 Nov, 2008 12:00
• John, welcome to SBG.  I'm sorry that you had your experience with the HT industry.  While I do think they are scum and prey on the emotionally weak, I don't think having our members starting a flame war on their boards is going to stop them.  Instead, I would urge you to just recommend to people that are dealing with hairloss to come to Sly Bald Guys and to learn how positive life can be while being bald.