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#15
by
Hingatao
on 11 Dec, 2012 07:07
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I grew up in the 70's so I can relate. We're a bunch of survivors. Kids today are a bunch of over privileged lazy ass whiners.
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#16
by
schro
on 11 Dec, 2012 08:18
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I am often reminded that (in my opinion) values and priorities are often misguided these days. It's messages like this that confirm my beliefs.
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#17
by
Hingatao
on 11 Dec, 2012 13:18
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I am often reminded that (in my opinion) values and priorities are often misguided these days. It's messages like this that confirm my beliefs.
I see the same thing. Too much of it IMHO.
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#18
by
Bald Hobbit
on 11 Dec, 2012 14:02
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I was born several decades too late. I wish I'd been a 50's kid... 40's if not for the war, but even then... maybe even 20's...
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#19
by
Tyler
on 11 Dec, 2012 15:49
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Reminds me of a discussion I had with a parent at the park the other day. My daughter and another girl were fighting over a toy and arguing with each other. There was a little pushing and grabbing going on, but no swings of the hands. The lady asked if I was going to stop it. I just looked at her and said "Nope. They need to figure it out for themselves." I could tell she was uncomfortable with their confrontation, but 2 minutes later they figured it all out and I said, "See, it's all good now."
In short, I can't stand parents that want to referee everything. How is your kid going to learn how to resolve conflict?
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#20
by
buddha
on 11 Dec, 2012 20:02
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Sometimes I think the best thing that parents can get for their kids is a pair of little boxing gloves and little headgear. When my grandkids fight it is a screaming/wailing match that can go on for hours, sometimes days. I told their mom about the boxing gloves idea. She was skeptical until I explained that it will actually curtail future disagreements by helping them to establish the pecking order among themselves without any artificial boundary marking by her. Once it is agreed who the alpha is by the occasional use of the gloves and headgear the underlings will not be so quick to launch a dispute.
I recommended the headgear because you don't want them leaving marks. Teachers are very quick to rat a mofo out to the man nowadays. Keep that s**t on the DL.
With the gloves and headgear the dispute is resolved in under a minute. Then I can go back to watching the football game. Because you gotta have priorities.
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#21
by
Tyler
on 11 Dec, 2012 20:30
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Buddha, that's the same thing my grandfather did for my brother and me; handed us boxing gloves and told us to take it to the front yard.
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#22
by
Frontier Guy
on 11 Dec, 2012 20:43
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It truly is a wonder that any of us from "those" generations survived to see hair loss.
When I was in grade school (kindergarten through 8th at our school) we didn't have special zones in the cafeteria for peanut-free and gluten-free and lactose-intolerant. We didn't have special classrooms for "exceptional" kids (regardless of learning exceptions) - everyone was in the same classroom and the teacher provided general and individual instruction. We were all just kids and learned how to get along and recognize each other's differences (not always in the nicest manner). We also played outside daily.
School is so different now. But I worry more about the afterschool hours when kids are hidden away in their rooms playing video games which - in my ancient opinion - distort one's view of the world.
As you may know from other of my postings I work in the tourism industry - my particular area is "old west" (hence "Frontier Guy" - get it?). Anyway, we sell various toy guns in the old west. In my youth we were taught never to point a toy gun at someone (and in my case, at any living thing) - but that guidance has gone out the window. Kids are so accustomed to shooting others in video games they pretend to shoot at each other and their parents constantly. Gives me the creeps. What happens when they have a real gun in their hands - even if they think it isn't loaded? Oh, and what do their parents do? - mostly nothing. They lost control of their kids years ago and don't recognize opportunities to teach them. They are so busy texting or chatting on their cell phones they often lose track of their family members.
I don't think it bodes well for any of us.
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#23
by
Switchy
on 18 Dec, 2012 21:54
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It truly is a wonder that any of us from "those" generations survived to see hair loss.
When I was in grade school (kindergarten through 8th at our school) we didn't have special zones in the cafeteria for peanut-free and gluten-free and lactose-intolerant. We didn't have special classrooms for "exceptional" kids (regardless of learning exceptions) - everyone was in the same classroom and the teacher provided general and individual instruction. We were all just kids and learned how to get along and recognize each other's differences (not always in the nicest manner). We also played outside daily.
School is so different now. But I worry more about the afterschool hours when kids are hidden away in their rooms playing video games which - in my ancient opinion - distort one's view of the world.
As you may know from other of my postings I work in the tourism industry - my particular area is "old west" (hence "Frontier Guy" - get it?). Anyway, we sell various toy guns in the old west. In my youth we were taught never to point a toy gun at someone (and in my case, at any living thing) - but that guidance has gone out the window. Kids are so accustomed to shooting others in video games they pretend to shoot at each other and their parents constantly. Gives me the creeps. What happens when they have a real gun in their hands - even if they think it isn't loaded? Oh, and what do their parents do? - mostly nothing. They lost control of their kids years ago and don't recognize opportunities to teach them. They are so busy texting or chatting on their cell phones they often lose track of their family members.
I don't think it bodes well for any of us.
How very true . Some good thoughts have been posted here . What is to come ?
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#24
by
tomgallagher
on 19 Dec, 2012 04:51
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The number of people that have been killed or wounded by guns that the shooter thought weren't loaded must be staggering.
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#25
by
Sir Harry
on 19 Dec, 2012 07:33
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What I find in this generation, is that too many people make the mistake of letting the "village" raise their children....While outside forces DO play a part in raising a child, the PARENT should be to the forefront of raising the child(ren) and being accountable for said child(ren) as well as teaching children to be accountable. Back in my childhood, there was no cable or internet, and me and my grandparents actually sat at the dinner table and talked instead of eating with the TV on. Nowadays with more channels on the TV than I care to count, parents are letting the children eat in bedrooms and instead of watching TV as a family in one room, are having multiple TV's on with just whatever. I ran into my ex at my friend's father's funeral last month and I asked her where her 14-year-old daughter was....She said, oh, let her stay wherever she is....I make it a point if my kids are not with me, that I better know where they are and with whom.....Times have changed, and it ain't necessarily for the better....
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#26
by
tomgallagher
on 19 Dec, 2012 08:48
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What I find in this generation, is that too many people make the mistake of letting the "village" raise their children....While outside forces DO play a part in raising a child, the PARENT should be to the forefront of raising the child(ren) and being accountable for said child(ren) as well as teaching children to be accountable. Back in my childhood, there was no cable or internet, and me and my grandparents actually sat at the dinner table and talked instead of eating with the TV on. Nowadays with more channels on the TV than I care to count, parents are letting the children eat in bedrooms and instead of watching TV as a family in one room, are having multiple TV's on with just whatever. I ran into my ex at my friend's father's funeral last month and I asked her where her 14-year-old daughter was....She said, oh, let her stay wherever she is....I make it a point if my kids are not with me, that I better know where they are and with whom.....Times have changed, and it ain't necessarily for the better....
Right on Harry.
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#27
by
Switchy
on 20 Dec, 2012 10:24
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What I find in this generation, is that too many people make the mistake of letting the "village" raise their children....While outside forces DO play a part in raising a child, the PARENT should be to the forefront of raising the child(ren) and being accountable for said child(ren) as well as teaching children to be accountable. Back in my childhood, there was no cable or internet, and me and my grandparents actually sat at the dinner table and talked instead of eating with the TV on. Nowadays with more channels on the TV than I care to count, parents are letting the children eat in bedrooms and instead of watching TV as a family in one room, are having multiple TV's on with just whatever. I ran into my ex at my friend's father's funeral last month and I asked her where her 14-year-old daughter was....She said, oh, let her stay wherever she is....I make it a point if my kids are not with me, that I better know where they are and with whom.....Times have changed, and it ain't necessarily for the better....
Right on Harry.
Agree 110%, the games that kids play with car theft, gang stuff, killing etc.. The older kids in the family get the little ones started. I also have seen parents play and think all this is right and it is bonding time. The Gene Pool is not good. And yes a family meal most of the time these aren't even done on Thanksgiving or Christmas anymore. It seems like kids now days as long as they are in the house and outta sight they are safe with , computer's , video games, Movie channels that have so much sex on them, that parents don't block. Also back in the 50's etc.. I didn't see all the mental problems with kids and that they were on medications etc.. But no if a kid is trying to get attention from parents, they are put on drugs and have all these fancy medical terms. It is sad .