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Title: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: Tyler on February 05, 2007, 01:32:13 PM
So, Ghost Rider should be coming out on Feb 16th in the US and late Feb or early March for the rest of the world.  What do you think?  Will you go see it?  Wait for Video?  Pass?
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: MagmaBabe on February 06, 2007, 12:46:45 PM
I can't wait to see it, the special effects look awesome!
I'm not a great lover of Nicholas Cage though, a lot of his films are
pretty hit and miss...but that movie does look good!!

If any of my american brethren  ;D do go see it, let me know what you think please.. :-*
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: VFRWolf on February 06, 2007, 12:51:21 PM
I will see it, loved the comic book when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: OzPete on February 08, 2007, 04:46:29 AM
I saw a trailer for this today...looks ok!  O0 It opens here on the 15th
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: Paul on February 08, 2007, 07:35:42 AM
Will definitely see it, but I'm into anything involving bikes.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: juventus206 on February 08, 2007, 11:09:54 AM
I like Nick Cage so I'm interested in how is his going to portray one of the bigger bad asses in comics.  Any comic book junkie remember Lobo?  Another bad ass on a bike >:D
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: ShinyHappyHead on February 08, 2007, 02:57:28 PM
I hope to see it in the theater.  Anything with big booms and bangs should be seen on a big mamma-jamma screen! 
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: ar3inc on February 08, 2007, 06:57:36 PM
I'm a big Nick Cage fan!

"What I got?  What do I got?!  I got bread!"
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: frostillicus123 on February 08, 2007, 06:58:29 PM
I hope to see it in the Theater
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: PigPen on February 09, 2007, 02:01:40 PM
I'll catch it at the dollar flicks.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: jasandalb on February 09, 2007, 03:04:45 PM
Ditto Pigpen's comment.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: Vash on February 10, 2007, 02:49:22 AM
I try to make a point of going to see any and all movies based on comic books, in hopes that they will continue to make movies based on comic books. The longer they do it, the better the movies get. If they stay at it long enough, they might finally get one really REALLY right (though Sin City was about as loyal as you can get)....

aw crap... sorry...my geek is showing...

Cage is good at times (Raising Arizona) and bad at others (Wickerman) and good at being bad at others (Con Air) and he wouldn't have been my first choice for Johnny Blaze/Ghost Rider, but I'll be interested to see how it all comes out.

Anyway, it's 45 minutes to get to my nearest theater, but I'll definately go catch it.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: Paul on February 19, 2007, 04:39:22 PM
Just saw Ghost Rider, special effects were awesome, his Ghost Rider bike spectacular.   Sam Elliot does a great job too.  Sly guys in it were the criminals of course.   Good part was the trailer for the new evil Spiderman coming out.  An;yone with kids is gonna love it.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: ar3inc on February 19, 2007, 05:22:54 PM
Sam Elliot  is just the man!  There is not another way to say it.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: schro on February 19, 2007, 06:44:34 PM
I will definitely see Ghost Rider. Eva Mendez  :@` :@` :@` ... 'nuff said.
I wasn't big into Ghost Rider as a kid, but my son loves super hero stuff, so we'll have a dude afternoon and catch a matinee.

I know the Spiderman movies are loved, but IMHO, the best comic book / movie adaptation has been Daredevil. Say what you will about Ben Affleck, but he did a phenomenal job in the movie. Although having a Michael Clarke Duncan (black SLY guy) play Kingpin was odd. It's not a racist thing, just off the comic a bit. I know critics didn't care for it, but the story was near dead on to the comic. I was a huge Daredevil fan (had every issue back to the 60's). Plus, Jennifer Garner played Elektra  :@` :@`...'nuff said x2. Lastly, Collin Ferrel as BullsEye (SLY in this flick as well)...awesome.

Schro
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: schro on March 05, 2007, 04:08:11 PM
Just saw Ghost Rider, special effects were awesome, his Ghost Rider bike spectacular.   Sam Elliot does a great job too.  Sly guys in it were the criminals of course.   Good part was the trailer for the new evil Spiderman coming out.  An;yone with kids is gonna love it.

Paul, need your input..........
Both my 8 yr old daughter and 6 yr old son met their test goals and I promised them that I'd take them to see Ghost Rider. Looking on Fandango's website, the RG-13 rating for Ghost Rider said "Horror, Violence and Disturbing Images". Just curious if it's still a must see for kids? The both loved the Spiderman and Fantastic Four flicks, but I'm a little concerned about it. If they mean the flaming head as the extent of the horror shots, I'm ok.

Thanks,
Schro, the "Ordinary American" not from New York.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: Paul on March 05, 2007, 04:25:49 PM
I'm pretty conservative about what kids should watch.  Disturbing images may relate to the fact that when people encounter demons they are shriveled up and killed. I've seen the other films and they are not in the same vein as this one.  Ghost has more violence in its entirety and a great deal of volume/noise.  . There were a lot of parents there with kids much didn't see any in the 6 year old category.  There is quite a bit of humor in it which the kids seem to enjoy.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: schro on March 05, 2007, 04:31:38 PM
Thanks Paul. It does help. I may talk to them about it first. Tell him a "sly guy" said it was a cool flick, but might have some scary things in it. Plus, I gotta remind them it's just a movie.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: wpruitt on March 05, 2007, 05:16:52 PM
Thanks Paul. It does help. I may talk to them about it first. Tell him a "sly guy" said it was a cool flick, but might have some scary things in it. Plus, I gotta remind them it's just a movie.

Or Schro, slip off and see it yourself first.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: schro on March 05, 2007, 05:52:49 PM
If I had the time I would. A double dose of Eva Mendes is always a good thing  :@`. My kids had no problem with the special effects of the Pirates of the Caribbean special effects (some were pretty scary for a kid), so I think they'll be fine.

Thanks,
Your Ordinary American, Schro
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: schro on March 06, 2007, 04:20:24 PM
OK, just got back from the theater with my 6 yr old son and 8 yr old daughter. Granted, some scenes relating to demons, devils & the underworld were a little scary for my daughter (son was saying "awesome" a lot), both kids loved it. I thought it rocked and would see it again.
Two thumbs and one bald head way, way up  O0

Eva Mendes  :@` :@` :@`. Hot damn, I love her!
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: Paul on March 06, 2007, 04:24:16 PM
Glad it was ok for the kids and Eva for you.  Flick was hot and she added most of the heat
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: spaceape48 on March 06, 2007, 08:28:50 PM
Will have to check it out- but likely not till it comes home to rent. Spiderman 3 is my next movie of choice relating to the comic books. I am interested in seeing some more about the next Fantastic 4 however. Silver Surfer was a favorite of mine as a kid.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: schro on March 06, 2007, 08:44:46 PM
The new Fantastic Four movie was a preview before Ghost Rider. If memory serves me, wasn't Silver Surfer a good guy ("power cosmic" and all that)? If so, I'm curious if he's being cast as a bad guy in the new Fan Four movie.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: frostillicus123 on March 06, 2007, 09:01:50 PM
I like the incredible hulk however i did not like Gumby on steriods.... i think they should have used a real person.... a big wrestler or body builder like ronnie coleman.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: Paul on March 07, 2007, 03:43:53 AM
The new Fantastic Four movie was a preview before Ghost Rider. If memory serves me, wasn't Silver Surfer a good guy ("power cosmic" and all that)? If so, I'm curious if he's being cast as a bad guy in the new Fan Four movie.






Yeah the Surfer was a good guy at heart, if I remember he sacrifices himself for his homeworld or something like that.  Was interested by this portrayal as well and plan to see this FF movie too.  Been a big Marvel fan all my life.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: schro on March 07, 2007, 07:31:50 AM
me too. Daredevil was my favorite character. I had all the issues from #1 until #190 or so (when Frank Miller was the artist). Sold them before Ebay came around. Pity...could've made much more $$.

By the way, the story in the DD movie (Ben Affleck, Jen. Garner) was very true to the comic book. Plus, it was good to see two SBG's in the flick. Michael Clarke Duncan (Kingpin) and Colin Farrell (BullsEye) were awesome, especially Farrell. If you haven't seen it, I recommend it as a rental.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: Paul on March 07, 2007, 08:47:58 AM
Not only saw it, but bought it.  Have to wonder if they will ever do a Dr. Strange film?
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: schro on March 07, 2007, 08:50:20 AM
Don't know if that one has the same comic book/merchandising appeal as Spiderman, F4, X-Men, etc. Somewhat surprised they haven't come out with an Iron Man flick.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: schro on March 07, 2007, 09:46:51 AM
See the attached story. Looks like Marvel is considering a Captain America movie after they killed him off. It was probably Bush's fault.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070307/ap_on_en_ot/captain_america_1

Schro (just your average Ordinary American not from New York).
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: tomgallagher on March 07, 2007, 10:19:52 AM
Yo Schro, what's with the New York thing.?
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: schro on March 07, 2007, 10:53:26 AM
Nothing against the entire city, just the attitudes of certain individuals.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: VFRWolf on March 07, 2007, 01:23:17 PM
Silver Surfer was made into a herald my Galactus, the planet destroyer, he went around searching for planets for Galactus to destroy/eat.  He sacrificed himself to keep his planet safe from Galactus, later on he threw off Galactus to assist the FF to save earth from him.  I don't know if they will portray it that way in the movie.  So yeah, Silver Surfer was a co- erced bad guy turned good guy, his powers are pretty awesome.

I'm curious how they are going to do Spiderman 3, no way they could follow the comic books about where he got the black suit.

Wolverine has always been my favorite, just love the attitude.  I have #1-37 of the Wolverine comic still, 100 or so X-men, several mini-series, the very last Defender, where most died, The first 6 x-factors, where they had 6 different covers on the #1 issue, still in the original plastic.  One day I'll figure out if they are worth something.

I heard through the grapevine that an Ironman movie is in the makes, also a Wolverine move.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: PigPen on March 07, 2007, 04:08:50 PM
Silver Surfer was made into a herald my Galactus, the planet destroyer, he went around searching for planets for Galactus to destroy/eat.  He sacrificed himself to keep his planet safe from Galactus, later on he threw off Galactus to assist the FF to save earth from him.  I don't know if they will portray it that way in the movie.  So yeah, Silver Surfer was a co- erced bad guy turned good guy, his powers are pretty awesome.

I'm curious how they are going to do Spiderman 3, no way they could follow the comic books about where he got the black suit.

Wolverine has always been my favorite, just love the attitude.  I have #1-37 of the Wolverine comic still, 100 or so X-men, several mini-series, the very last Defender, where most died, The first 6 x-factors, where they had 6 different covers on the #1 issue, still in the original plastic.  One day I'll figure out if they are worth something.

I heard through the grapevine that an Ironman movie is in the makes, also a Wolverine move.

I'm with ya VFR, Wolverine is awesome. I would have to agree, it's gotta be the attitude. It was funny during the first X-Men when Cyclops makes the comment about blue spandex. That's hilarious, you could tell who in the theatre had not read the comic book, because they didn't get the joke.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: VFRWolf on March 07, 2007, 05:08:21 PM
I think it was "blue and yellow" spandex, and your right, not many got it.  Those were his first I believe, when he was with Alpha Flight, and right at the beginning of X-men, then he went to a two tone brown.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: spaceape48 on March 07, 2007, 05:44:22 PM
I'm hoping the alien suit in Spiderman will bring out Venom at some point- who knows, maybe that will even be a spin-off. I heard about Wolverine being in the works! I will def be seeing that one when it comes out.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: VFRWolf on March 07, 2007, 07:53:09 PM
Yeah, but who's going to be Venom?  Brock like out of the comic book, or someone else?  Where did the suit come from?  Original comic book, it came from another planet, that several superheros were transported to, as well as several supervillians, to have a fight to decide who was stronger, good or evil.  The story crossed several different comic issues of various superheros.

FYI, I was never a spidy fan when I was into comics, he always came off as a whiner IMO.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: Vash on March 08, 2007, 03:55:39 AM
I'm hoping the alien suit in Spiderman will bring out Venom at some point- who knows, maybe that will even be a spin-off. I heard about Wolverine being in the works! I will def be seeing that one when it comes out.

I have suspicion that the black suit will be explained as some sort of scientific research thing, or as being "found in a meteorite" or something since there's no real tie in to Spidey in space in the films. Topher Grace (That 70's show) is playing Eddie Brock, who will become Venom (http://www.filmick.co.uk/ (http://www.filmick.co.uk/) scroll down that page to see images of Grace as Venom). .

However... this film will focus on Spidey fighting Sandman (who they have re-written to be Uncle Bens actual killer) and The Hobgoblin ( Harry Osborne, son of Green Goblin). And will cover Eddie Brock (a fellow photojournalist) as competition for Peter Parker rather than Spidey.

We'll also meet Gwen Stacey (Peters original girlfreind WAY before MJ in the comics and competition for MJ in the film), Dr. Curt Connors (the Lizardman) and John Jameson (Werewolf and son of J. Jonah)

They'll likely weave the story so that Peter fights his internal/external struggle against the symbiote costume which he will of course win (probably through his love for MJ). The Symbiote will then overtake Brock and become Venom, setting him up as the villain in the following film (yes, they are talkgin about #4).

The question I have is since they are giving us Venom... will they give us Carnage in the future too? Think of a skinnier, more psychotic Venom made out of BLOOD!

They can't possibly follow the "Black Suit" storylines from the comics as they involved the Secret Wars, which was a massive cross over involving most of the characters in Marvel Comics at the time. And as far as getting the suit off of Peter for good.. well, THAT involved the Fantastic Four and a sonic weapon from Reed Richards, so THAT'S right out.

Speaking of which,I'll be fascinated to see how they do Norrin Radd (the Silver Surfer) in the next FF film. If he's showing up, that means we'll likely see the FF take on Galactus and...

Damn.. I'm a geek.

Yay comic book movies.

P.S.

They can't kill Cap, not for real. He's an Icon. Remember back in the early 90's they killed SUPERMAN...and had to writer a way to bring him back (which turned into a long nightmare for fans). He's too strong a character in the Marvel Universe, especially after "Civil War". SO have no fear, Cap will return (early reports say he'll be dead for 1 year).

oh yeah, and Daredevil is an amazing character and it's an amazing comic. I don't remember liking the movie all that much, but I can't remember why now... I think it might have been their choices for Kingpin & Bullseye.. not sure. I'll have to watch it again.

 
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: VFRWolf on March 08, 2007, 11:10:07 AM
IIRC, yes the FF helped get the suit off of Spidy, but didn't he get taken back over and had to use the bell tower to get it off?  Saw that in the preview, seem to remember it in the comic.

I don't remember Carnage so no idea there, Secret Wars, I couldn't remember that name.

Someone's a bigger comic geek then I am.   O0
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: Vash on March 09, 2007, 01:41:41 AM
There was a period Pre-Venom where the alien symbiote suit kept escaping containment as repossessing Peter and had tobe removed over and over again. Finally it got ahold of Brock and found it's "soul mate" so to speak and the rest is history. The belltower was one of the methods used to remove the suit, after they had established that sonics worked to hurt the suit/alien.

Secret Wars was the name of the 12 issue mini-series that ran from May 1984 - April of 1985 (http://www.toymania.com/archives/secretwars/swcindex.shtml (http://www.toymania.com/archives/secretwars/swcindex.shtml)). In Issue #8 of that series Spidermans costume gets destroyed and he needs to come up with a new one. The Black suit is the result of these events and only later after he's back on Earth does Peter find out the suit is actually an alien.

I am indeed a serious comic book geek... I got on board the train as a little kid and just never really got off (implied virginal geek joke acheived).

Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: VFRWolf on March 09, 2007, 04:12:23 AM
Quote
Secret Wars was the name of the 12 issue mini-series that ran from May 1984 - April of 1985 (http://www.toymania.com/archives/secretwars/swcindex.shtml). In Issue #8 of that series Spidermans costume gets destroyed and he needs to come up with a new one. The Black suit is the result of these events and only later after he's back on Earth does Peter find out the suit is actually an alien.

Yep, knew that, I think I might have some of those issues stored away.


I got out of collecting them several years ago, but saved all mine that I can remember.  Been thinking about seeing how much they are worth.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: Tyler on March 09, 2007, 09:44:38 AM
 M!55

I feel like I'm getting an executive summary on all the comic books I didn't read growing up.  I'm not sure why, but I never did get into reading comic books.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: PBurke on March 09, 2007, 09:47:16 AM
don't feel alone tyler. i usually just used them to draw the pictures from them.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: Robmeister on March 09, 2007, 09:53:29 AM
M!55

I feel like I'm getting an executive summary on all the comic books I didn't read growing up.  I'm not sure why, but I never did get into reading comic books.

Never read them myself.....

I did like MAD magazine....'member that one?

Time for a new thread....stand by
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: schro on March 09, 2007, 11:50:15 AM
MAD was great. The main artist (Don Martin?) was incredible.
As far as comics go, if it wasn't for the current Marvel comic movies, I'm not so certain my son would be gaining interest in comic books. Personally, anytime I can get him to sit down & read is a good thing.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: Paul on March 09, 2007, 02:49:49 PM
I was always into Marvel as a kid and still am.
 Vash, we're not comic geeks, just collectors of artistic literature, and
Schro your technique is right on.  I get my non readers in high school interested in Marvel.  Anything you can do to spark a kids reading is awesome.
Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: Robmeister on March 09, 2007, 03:37:39 PM
Anything you can do to spark a kids reading is awesome.


Here, Here!!!

Title: Re: Ghost Rider - the movie
Post by: Vash on March 14, 2007, 12:18:17 AM
Comics got me reading really early. My folks would get me comics as a reward for doing well in Kindergarten.

I was reading books by the time I was 3, partially because my folks gave me spiderman and spider woman comics.... it later developed into a full blown addiction that I am now in control of (mostly).

Comics are a great way to get kids to read and there are a lot of great writers who use the medium to tell really strong stories.