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Discussions About Being Bald => General Discussion => Topic started by: hammerdrill376 on December 12, 2008, 04:22:55 PM
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What type of firearms do you guys have for home protection?
The reason I ask is that last night a home invasion occured about 2 miles from me. Fortunately the owner had protection and the home invader was sent to meet his maker. One of my neighbors is a county police seargent and told me the owner was well within his rights to shoot the guy and no charges would be filed. He also told me our area has been "claimed" by a Mexican gang called MS-13. The county police seem to be very worried about their presence. This is also Hells Angels territory albiet I am not too worried about those guys. But around the holidays home break-ins are a problem around here and with the economy being what it is I am a bit more concerned for my than I have been in the past. So what do you guys use for protection?
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My fists are registered lethal weapons :). Actually, I don't have a gun... just an aluminum baseball bat.
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My fists are registered lethal weapons :). Actually, I don't have a gun... just an aluminum baseball bat.
but can you move those fists more than 3000 feet per second? cause that is how fast lead flies out my gun. ha ha ha
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What type of firearms do you guys have for home protection?
The reason I ask is that last night a home invasion occured about 2 miles from me. Fortunately the owner had protection and the home invader was sent to meet his maker. One of my neighbors is a county police seargent and told me the owner was well within his rights to shoot the guy and no charges would be filed. He also told me our area has been "claimed" by a Mexican gang called MS-13. The county police seem to be very worried about their presence. This is also Hells Angels territory albiet I am not too worried about those guys. But around the holidays home break-ins are a problem around here and with the economy being what it is I am a bit more concerned for my than I have been in the past. So what do you guys use for protection?
not trying to scare, but be careful with MS-13. there were some issues in northern va not to long ago with them. (http://www.wtopnews.com/?sid=502844&nid=25)
watch yourself out there.
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My fists are registered lethal weapons :). Actually, I don't have a gun... just an aluminum baseball bat.
but can you move those fists more than 3000 feet per second? cause that is how fast lead flies out my gun. ha ha ha
Might want to specify what gun we're talking about hahaha :XX
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What type of firearms do you guys have for home protection?
The reason I ask is that last night a home invasion occured about 2 miles from me. Fortunately the owner had protection and the home invader was sent to meet his maker. One of my neighbors is a county police seargent and told me the owner was well within his rights to shoot the guy and no charges would be filed. He also told me our area has been "claimed" by a Mexican gang called MS-13. The county police seem to be very worried about their presence. This is also Hells Angels territory albiet I am not too worried about those guys. But around the holidays home break-ins are a problem around here and with the economy being what it is I am a bit more concerned for my than I have been in the past. So what do you guys use for protection?
My area use to be Hells Angels territory before their clubhouse was brought down. I'll say this, it was a hell of a lot safer out at night then than it is now.
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The only gun that I have designated for personal protection is a Glock 23 .40 S&W, which is my concealed carry firearm. But I do have others that would be fine firearms for home defense, a 12 gauge pump, and a 30-30 lever action. There are not very many burglaries or violent crimes around here, but there is always a wacko out there.
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I have lot's of guns.....I'll only mention a few that would be for personal protection....I have 3 side arms on a concealed weapons permit and one being a .357 Magnum....I also have 2 Remington 870 12 Guage shotguns that I could use if necessary...
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NO guns here in my house except for my sons BB gun. I live in a relatively low crime area. Havent heard of maybe one or two home invasions my whole time living here. About 2 years ago a middle aged single lady warded off an intruder with can of Pam cooking spray. LOL
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2 years ago a middle aged single lady warded off an intruder with can of Pam cooking spray. LOL
Pam hurts when somebody sprays it in your eyes. Trust me my sister had some mean moments when we were growing up.
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I have 2 Glock 9mm handguns. One I keep in a holster that I strapped to the side of my recliner. The other I carry with me in a holster when I'm away.
I drew my gun last night. It was 4 am and I was in my bedroom putting laundry away. (I am on 3rd shift). When I hear my car alarm going off inside my attached garage. I grab my Glock and go to investigate. I open the door with my gun up in a ready position and look around to see that both the big door is still closed and the side service door is still closed and locked with no signs of forced entry. After seeing no one entered the garage I go look for my keys, still wondering why my car alarm would be going off for no reason. After searching around for a good minute I find my keys in my room inside a pair of shorts I left on my floor. That's when I realized I stepped on them and must have pushed the panic button.
Bottom line is, I didn't need my gun, but I sure am happy I have it if I do.
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What model Glocks.?
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Glock 17 & 26, both are 9mm.
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I use a S&W 500 myself. If the bullet doesn't get them the blast will scare them to death.
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Glock 17 & 26, both are 9mm.
I use to carry a Glock 17 when I was in the PD years ago and always thought it was a nice gun.
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They both are nice. The 26 is a lot easier to conceal.
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How many of you carry a weapon on you? What are some places where you are allowed to arm yourself?
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I carry a weapon on me. Easier to say where you can't carry. In FL I can carry everywhere except government buildings, police department, airport, and professional events such as a professional baseball stadium.
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I carry a weapon on me. Easier to say where you can't carry. In FL I can carry everywhere except government buildings, police department, airport, and professional events such as a professional baseball stadium.
And public schools and grounds...
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Yes, that too. Thanks
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I have a H&K USP 9mm that I love for defense
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What type of firearms do you guys have for home protection?
The reason I ask is that last night a home invasion occured about 2 miles from me. Fortunately the owner had protection and the home invader was sent to meet his maker. One of my neighbors is a county police seargent and told me the owner was well within his rights to shoot the guy and no charges would be filed. He also told me our area has been "claimed" by a Mexican gang called MS-13. The county police seem to be very worried about their presence. This is also Hells Angels territory albiet I am not too worried about those guys. But around the holidays home break-ins are a problem around here and with the economy being what it is I am a bit more concerned for my than I have been in the past. So what do you guys use for protection?
Man, it upsets me to end...all the liberals say "oh all the illegals are just hard working people looking to better themselves...yea right...i dont want to make this a political post, but it is aggravating that gun laws are getting more strict and more strict to the common man who just wants to protect himself...none the less...i would reccomend a 12 guage shotgun, someone mentioned the remington 870 model...that is great...as for shells most seem to reccomend buckshot...def. get a 12 guage, then after that you can look at pistols, etc...wish you the best.
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What type of firearms do you guys have for home protection?
The reason I ask is that last night a home invasion occured about 2 miles from me. Fortunately the owner had protection and the home invader was sent to meet his maker. One of my neighbors is a county police seargent and told me the owner was well within his rights to shoot the guy and no charges would be filed. He also told me our area has been "claimed" by a Mexican gang called MS-13. The county police seem to be very worried about their presence. This is also Hells Angels territory albiet I am not too worried about those guys. But around the holidays home break-ins are a problem around here and with the economy being what it is I am a bit more concerned for my than I have been in the past. So what do you guys use for protection?
Man, it upsets me to end...all the liberals say "oh all the illegals are just hard working people looking to better themselves...yea right...i dont want to make this a political post, but it is aggravating that gun laws are getting more strict and more strict to the common man who just wants to protect himself...none the less...i would reccomend a 12 guage shotgun, someone mentioned the remington 870 model...that is great...as for shells most seem to reccomend buckshot...def. get a 12 guage, then after that you can look at pistols, etc...wish you the best.
I agree completely. The idea that taking guns off the street is going to deter violent crimes is ridiculous. No guns? Criminals will just use knives or bats or something else. And speaking of gun LAWS, why would any law stop a criminal from doing anything? Criminals don't follow the LAW, that's why they're criminals!
I don't own a gun yet, since I'm not old enough. I'm not sure if the "gun laws" are different in Tennessee that they are nationally. 2nd Amendment forever!
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If your state allows concealed carry and you have ever considered it. I would recommend you start the process. It is very easy here in Florida I don't know what it's like elsewhere. I have heard there has been a lot of new applications here. We don't know what the future is for our gun rights. A membership with the NRA can help in keeping our second amendment rights. As for home protection a 12ga can make a near miss fatal.
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Living in alaska, I am within my rights to carry concealed without a permit anywhere I want spare gov. Buildings, banks and schools. The kitchen I work in has a shotgun in the bathroom and a 44 s&w by the front door.
here at home I have a 12ga that is the exact legal length and nothing more, a ball bat, a glock 17, and my s&w 44.
On me is always a 9mm, and my wife carries the same gun. The car has a 12ga and a 9mm as well
We stay protected around my house
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Chef....where abouts in Alaska do you live??
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Living in alaska, I am within my rights to carry concealed without a permit anywhere I want spare gov. Buildings, banks and schools. The kitchen I work in has a shotgun in the bathroom and a 44 s&w by the front door.
here at home I have a 12ga that is the exact legal length and nothing more, a ball bat, a glock 17, and my s&w 44.
On me is always a 9mm, and my wife carries the same gun. The car has a 12ga and a 9mm as well
We stay protected around my house
And hopefully you will be able to get to them in case of a home invasiion.
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Im currently in Kenai, AK. I grew up in Dutch Harbor and Homer.
kenai--http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=kenai+ak&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=title
Dutch Harbor-http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=kenai+ak&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=title
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We can carry in banks here in FL. That doesn't make much sense that you can't. Alaska only wants the bank robbers to be armed?
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its a shame here in the state maryland...maryland is becoming more liberal then cali or mass...forget about getting a permit to carry...nearly impossible... where i live in maryland is very rural, and full of farmland and very conservative, many parts of maryland is conservative but all the liberalness is centered around baltimore city and bordering washington dc and northern va, this state is becoming like i said earlier more liberal then california or massachusesst...sorry about the political rant but it is something that really annoys me.
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Don't even think about New Jersey.
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Does that mean that all conservatives are anti gun control and that all liberals are pro gun control.
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that is usually the case tommy...im sure there are some exceptions, some may be more politically liberal in some areas and not want gun control and vice versa, but yes, that is usually the case...im sure some would be politically correct and say that you cant "label all" but for the most part that statement is true...
again sorry if political posts arent welcome...
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about the PAM comment , add a BIC lighter to the spray and it can be VERY VERY effective as well as lethal !
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about the PAM comment , add a BIC lighter to the spray and it can be VERY VERY effective as well as lethal !
As well as lethal to the user.....lol
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You could take that act on the road and make a couple of bucks.
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Be safe out there . I recently saw a documentary on ms-13,and they seem to be some top of the line ---holes!. If I had a weapon it would be a.45 cal compact model. Had a gun in the house when employed with federal government and always felt uneasy with 2 boys and all. STAY SAFE.
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Just wondering........which nfl playoff team has the most S.B.G?
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I don't own or carry a gun, but I've been known to carry this knife http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41mej1MrYXL._SL500_AA280_.jpg a Smith and Wesson Folding Extreme Ops Karambit. I'm not sure about other provinces but in order for a knife to be considered a weapon the blade has to be over 6 inches or something along those lines.
Anyone else carry pocket knives for protection?
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I don't own a gun, no need for one. I love the way that a simple post because a political bash though. The past 2 threads I've read makes me feel like everyone on here just hates Liberals.
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I don't own a gun, no need for one. I love the way that a simple post because a political bash though. The past 2 threads I've read makes me feel like everyone on here just hates Liberals.
I don't hate liberals, we agree on some points but I do have some disagreements with them.
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Everyone needs to remember that when using a gun or other lethal force, if not done w/in the limitations of the law, you could be liable to the intruder for civil damages and that you may not have any insurance against such claims depending on the language of your homeowners or liability insurance. The costs of defending the legal action and any judgment could wipe you out financially. When you use lethal force, you really need to know what your rights and liabilities are under the law. Cowboy justice and indignation aside this is serious.
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Everyone needs to remember that when using a gun or other lethal force, if not done w/in the limitations of the law, you could be liable to the intruder for civil damages and that you may not have any insurance against such claims depending on the language of your homeowners or liability insurance. The costs of defending the legal action and any judgment could wipe you out financially. When you use lethal force, you really need to know what your rights and liabilities are under the law. Cowboy justice and indignation aside this is serious.
SaintC: One question (I am serious) - where does my right to protect my home begin? The old adage is that they must already be inside the home. Is my front porch part of being inside the home (gray issue probably). If they are trying to open my doors with force, would I be justified in pulling out Messers Smith and Wesson ... or should I hit the panic button on the alarm?
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Everyone needs to remember that when using a gun or other lethal force, if not done w/in the limitations of the law, you could be liable to the intruder for civil damages and that you may not have any insurance against such claims depending on the language of your homeowners or liability insurance. The costs of defending the legal action and any judgment could wipe you out financially. When you use lethal force, you really need to know what your rights and liabilities are under the law. Cowboy justice and indignation aside this is serious.
SaintC: One question (I am serious) - where does my right to protect my home begin? The old adage is that they must already be inside the home. Is my front porch part of being inside the home (gray issue probably). If they are trying to open my doors with force, would I be justified in pulling out Messers Smith and Wesson ... or should I hit the panic button on the alarm?
This question for use of deadly force has a different answer in every State, the essential issue is the reasonable fear for your life and the lives of those around you---damage to or loss of property is not generally reasonable. It also matters when that fear should reasonably end. "Reasonable" has a different test depending on where you live. But even if reasonable, and you're "legal" in the use of force, the intruder still may have a civil cause against you and whether your insurance policies cover the costs of your defense, assuming that you're within your rights, is a question that your lawyer and insurance agent must weigh in on based on the language of your policy. Legal costs are high, there's no way around it, so you can be reasonable, legal and still wind up with a high, perhaps ruinous, legal bill. So, pushing the panic button or calling 911, since they aren't lethal, are good alternatives.
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I have a lot of guns and I have a permit to carry.The two I keep with in arms reach are my Sig P228 and my Glock 17.When I`M out and about,I carry my Taurus 38 special.It fits in my pants pocket.
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just burn it down, then you wont have to worry about it
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If no one had a gun no one would need one for 'protection'
John (in Canada )
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If no one had a gun no one would need one for 'protection'
John (in Canada )
but all the criminals DO have guns. therefore that theory does not work.
PAULIE (STILL in the USA)
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If no one had a gun no one would need one for 'protection'
John (in Canada )
By this logic I would also need to get rid of all the knives in my kitchen as well. GUNS DON"T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE DO.
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I do not care about all the legal mumbo jumbo and if my insurance will cover my a**. All I know is that if I feel that my wife or I or my 72lb (yes 72lb) basset hound is in trouble I will defend and protect what I hold dear to me by any means, util the threat no longer exist. If that means shooting,stabing or just plain old kicking the crap outa someone then thats what will happen. I dont care if your left,right,liberal or con. We should not be afraid of protecting our property and our family. We also need to remember that we are the ones that have the power to put laws into effect and to vote responsibly not just for one side or the other.
(Dang I didnt know I had all that in me) :x!
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If no one had a gun no one would need one for 'protection'
John (in Canada )
By this logic I would also need to get rid of all the knives in my kitchen as well. GUNS DON"T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE DO.
I second this one Paul. A gun doesn't pick it self up and point it at someone. The person chooses to pull that trigger. You can damn well be sure, if someone has a gun in their hand and is threatening you, they mean to do harm or rob. They're fair game after that.
And I agree with coonbilly, if you plan on harming me or my family, you can bet you will end up looking down that barrell. :x!
Good point as well, Paulie. O0
Joe (In the USA and proud to be)
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If no one had a gun no one would need one for 'protection'
John (in Canada )
but all the criminals DO have guns. therefore that theory does not work.
PAULIE (STILL in the USA)
No; the theory is fine. Key is the first word in the sentence ... "If "
to Paul; yes ; people do kill people; but guns sure help !!
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so do cars, baseball bats, knives, ropes, airplanes, boats,etc. maybe we should outlaw anything that has ever been a part of a peron dying? yeah, maybe then people wouldn't die. wake up! on second thought, go back to sleep under the rock you have been under since last time you started trouble here.
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so do cars, baseball bats, knives, ropes, airplanes, boats,etc. maybe we should outlaw anything that has ever been a part of a peron dying? yeah, maybe then people wouldn't die. wake up! on second thought, go back to sleep under the rock you have been under since last time you started trouble here.
that argument is just plain silly. comparing boats and planes to guns. sheesh.
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so do cars, baseball bats, knives, ropes, airplanes, boats,etc. maybe we should outlaw anything that has ever been a part of a peron dying? yeah, maybe then people wouldn't die. wake up! on second thought, go back to sleep under the rock you have been under since last time you started trouble here.
that argument is just plain silly. comparing boats and planes to guns. sheesh.
wow another dumbass comment from you! why am i not surprised? my point was this: if you ban guns cause they are used as a tool to kill people, why not ban anything that can be used to kill? if i ever wanted to kill someone and all i could find was a bat, i would use that. same with anything else i could get my hands on. banning guns would not help at all cause the criminals would still have them. and law abiding citizens would not be able to defend themselves against the idiots that have no regard for the law. would you bring a knife to a gunfight? i think not. alot of good men and women have died for me to be able to own a gun. i think banning guns would be like a slap in the face to them. as well as all who are defending this country now. as far as i am concerned tom, you can go find mr. mont and crawl under the rock with him.
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If no one had a gun no one would need one for 'protection'
John (in Canada )
That's not true. If an intruder came into my home with a sword I would need a gun since my fencing skills are lacking.
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I have a carry permit because now a days. You can get robbed and give them everything they ask for and they will still shoot you.
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General Cosgrove was interviewed on the radio recently.
Love his reply to the lady who interviewed him concerning guns and children. Regardless of how you feel about gun laws you gotta love this! This is one of the best comeback lines of all time. It is a portion of an ABC interview between a female broadcaster and General Cosgrove who was about to sponsor a Boy Scout Troop visiting his military headquarters.
FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
So, General Cosgrove, what things are you going to teach these young boys when they visit your base?
GENERAL COSGROVE:
We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing, archery and shooting.
FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?
GENERAL COSGROVE:
I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the rifle range.
FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?
GENERAL COSGROVE:
I don't see how. We will be teaching them proper rifle discipline before they even touch a firearm.
FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
But you're equipping them to become violent killers.
GENERAL COSGROVE:
Well, Ma'am, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?
The radio went momentarily silent and the interview ended
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Well, Ma'am, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?
That's fantastic!
I'd love a shotgun for home protection. I'm not interested in something that shoots bullets because they can go through the house, window and end up taking out the neighbor's dog or worse. Another thought that goes through my head is were one large natural disaster away from hunting for our own food or being in the unfortunate position to have to defend ourselves. It's safe to say that other will have guns, why not me? I believe I can be responsible with one. I've hunted and gone trap shooting and only pheasants were injured, not people.
Guns in the wrong hands is an unfortunate fact of life. It doesn't make them something that should be destroyed or banned all together. Read up on world history. We're all here today because of guns. Food... Freedom... Clothes...
It's also my right as an American citizen.
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That was a great quote.
I don't choose to have guns. Why? Because I didn't grow up going hunting or to the range with my dad. Had I grown up that way, it'd be a different story.
I feel like anything is dangerous without the proper training. So be a responsible person, and earn your guns.
When it comes to firearms, I am against people who either have guns that are not safely stored (so inexperienced idiots can get ahold of them) or when a person owns an AR-15 and claims its for self defense.
Also, you can argue all day that your pistol is for self-defense, but there are still clowns that just have a weapon because it feels cool and manly. There will always be a small group of people in ANYTHING that will choose the wrong road, and I don't know what we can do about them. Does anyone? Will there ever be a classroom without a troublemaker? Will there ever be a football team without a dog-fighting gambler?
I guess my humble conclusion is different strokes, different folks, don't kill.
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so do cars, baseball bats, knives, ropes, airplanes, boats,etc. maybe we should outlaw anything that has ever been a part of a peron dying? yeah, maybe then people wouldn't die. wake up! on second thought, go back to sleep under the rock you have been under since last time you started trouble here.
that argument is just plain silly. comparing boats and planes to guns. sheesh.
wow another dumbass comment from you! why am i not surprised? my point was this: if you ban guns cause they are used as a tool to kill people, why not ban anything that can be used to kill? if i ever wanted to kill someone and all i could find was a bat, i would use that. same with anything else i could get my hands on. banning guns would not help at all cause the criminals would still have them. and law abiding citizens would not be able to defend themselves against the idiots that have no regard for the law. would you bring a knife to a gunfight? i think not. alot of good men and women have died for me to be able to own a gun. i think banning guns would be like a slap in the face to them. as well as all who are defending this country now. as far as i am concerned tom, you can go find mr. mont and crawl under the rock with him.
Same thoughts here, Paulie. This guy is famous for his ridiculous comments, and he tries thoroughly to get people riled up. Keep your biased and antique thinking attitude over at the other site, where you can post all the drivel you want!. :/O
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wow another dumbass comment from you! why am i not surprised? my point was this: if you ban guns cause they are used as a tool to kill people, why not ban anything that can be used to kill? you can go find mr. mont and crawl under the rock with him.
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I realize your dumbass point and it is exactly that, a dumbass point. And as far as crawling under a rock is concerned that is a pretty piss poor attitude for a so called moderator to have.
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A short list of people that probably would agree with me that there are just too dang many guns out there:
Abraham Lincoln
James Garfield
William McKinley
Huey Long
Medgar Evers
Jack Kennedy
Malcom X
Bobby Kennedy
Martin Luther King
Harvey Milk
John Lennon
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A short list of people that probably would agree with me that there are just too dang many guns out there:
Abraham Lincoln
James Garfield
William McKinley
Huey Long
Medgar Evers
Jack Kennedy
Malcom X
Bobby Kennedy
Martin Luther King
Harvey Milk
John Lennon
Would you like to pass laws that ban guns? Then only criminals would have guns. Would that be a good thing?
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No one is talking about banning guns for Chrissake. Plz focus. The point I am obviously not getting across is that there are too many guns in this country. Both legal and illegal. I have been a dues paying member of the National Rifle Association for over twenty years and lot of other members feel the same as I do. We just had a Vineland NJ cop arrested by the authorities after finding over 250 guns and a million rounds of ammunition in his house. Now c'mon, I ask you.
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I don't hate liberals, we agree on some points but I do have some disagreements with them.
I don't hate liberals either... they taste good!
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That's not true. If an intruder came into my home with a sword I would need a gun since my fencing skills are lacking.
Actually, back in my martial arts days, all I kept in the house was a very sharp katana. I stopped a girl being raped by some dudes in the back ally. I totally scared them away with it... or it could have been that I didn't have a stitch of clothes on!
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Anyone else carry pocket knives for protection?
I do! And I have training to use it! As well as my sword! (Years in the SCA have been a blessing!)
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Shine has a very good point about training. I own a Buckmaster 22, and am currently in training with the NRA to use it safely. After that I plan on getting something with a bit more bite. Any recommendations for a revolver?
The Eddie Eagle program is great if you have kids in the house! The NRA also has some great info on how to safely handle home defense, positions, tactics, etc. As far as the political discussion, isn't it a great country where we have the freedom (at least for now) to politely express our views. Hmmm... freedom... gun ownership....hmmmm.
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Giggles for General Cosgrove!!!!! What a comeback!
BTW, I haven't read this entire thread so someone here may have addressed this already. MS-13 came to Waukegan a couple of years after I retired from the PD. With the little I know of them I am very happy to have been gone before they arrived on scene. The county sergeant was mistaken about their national origin, they are not Mexican (unless that was one of those "they all look alike to me" descriptions.). These guys are from El Salvador. While they are not composed entirely of former military and para-military the leadership structure is said to be staffed by people with "experience". IMO, if MS-13 is in town start checking the real estate listings in Wyoming or Montana. These dudes are not afraid of the cops, in fact, they not only disrespect them to the core, they are unconcerned by a police presence. Unlike our home-grown gangs who are more concerned about turf and street corners and macho bu!!$h*+ these guys are businessmen with some real soldiers at thir disposal. And they are most certainly equipped to back up their tough talk.
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A short list of people that probably would agree with me that there are just too dang many guns out there:
Abraham Lincoln
James Garfield
William McKinley
Huey Long
Medgar Evers
Jack Kennedy
Malcom X
Bobby Kennedy
Martin Luther King
Harvey Milk
John Lennon
Reminded me of this quote,
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
-Benjamin Franklin
Those aren't necessarily my views, I'm staying out of this thread because gun politics in Canada and the US are incredibly different, for many different reasons.
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Michael,
If you're looking for a revolver, you need to consider what criteria you want. Do you want to conceal it? Do you prefer hammerless? Any good sized gun shop could show you enough variety to make your head spin. :D
The only revolver I've ever cared for is a large frame .357 Magnum for target shooting. I think it was Dirty Harry that said something like, "regular guns go bang; but magnums go boom!" O0 Besides, you can always put .38s in it, if you want the Mrs. to have something to shoot with very little recoil! 8)
On the subject of getting rid of guns, maybe our sly guys in England or Australia could comment on how that is working in their respective country. I've heard stories, but, it would be nice to know how things are going from someone living there. O0
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MICHEAL CHECK OUT THE NEW LINE OF REVOLVERS CHAMBERED IN .327 FEDERAL.MORE STOPPING POWER THAN A 357 LESS RECOIL THAN A 38 ITS BEING CITED AS THE PERFECT SELF DEFENSE ROUND.
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HELLO guyz, just remember when the government asks for your guns to be turned in "to protecet the general publics safety" the only ones that ARE turning them in ARE the law abiding populace ! the criminals DONT turn their guns in and are GRATEFUL when john q public DOES turn theirs in because there is less chance of THEM getting killed in the commision of a crime! look at BRITIAN theyre armed crimes have gone up lik 200% and the government is ADDMITTING they screwed up by taking away the HONEST populace weapons !
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That's not true. If an intruder came into my home with a sword I would need a gun since my fencing skills are lacking.
Actually, back in my martial arts days, all I kept in the house was a very sharp katana. I stopped a girl being raped by some dudes in the back ally. I totally scared them away with it... or it could have been that I didn't have a stitch of clothes on!
Good for you, Michael. That's a crazy story.
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That was a great quote.
I don't choose to have guns. Why? Because I didn't grow up going hunting or to the range with my dad. Had I grown up that way, it'd be a different story.
I feel like anything is dangerous without the proper training. So be a responsible person, and earn your guns.
When it comes to firearms, I am against people who either have guns that are not safely stored (so inexperienced idiots can get ahold of them) or when a person owns an AR-15 and claims its for self defense.
Also, you can argue all day that your pistol is for self-defense, but there are still clowns that just have a weapon because it feels cool and manly. There will always be a small group of people in ANYTHING that will choose the wrong road, and I don't know what we can do about them. Does anyone? Will there ever be a classroom without a troublemaker? Will there ever be a football team without a dog-fighting gambler?
I guess my humble conclusion is different strokes, different folks, don't kill.
That's just about my feelings on the subject too. I don't feel i can really comment, coming from UK where guns arent quite so easy to come by, but they are becoming more wide-spread, and I agree with the point that if they were made illegal then only criminals would have them, and that would be far worse a scenario.
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Thanks Tow and Nonick for the advice. Home defense.