Sly Bald Guys Forum

Various Non-Bald Discussions => General Discussion => Topic started by: -Doug- on November 19, 2008, 07:44:35 AM

Title: Cheating or not?
Post by: -Doug- on November 19, 2008, 07:44:35 AM
Ok, I am trying to settle a disagreement. I've learned moves solve a Rubik's Cube. They involve learning how to take a randomly scrambled cube and systematically manipulating the cube until it is solved. My wife  :@` and I go back and forth on whether or not this is "cheating." So let me know what you think.
Title: Re: Cheating or not?
Post by: Timmay on November 19, 2008, 07:55:58 AM
hmmmm i dunno.  But are there really moves you can learn?  If you are paying to learn these moves...i think you are being taken..
Title: Re: Cheating or not?
Post by: -Doug- on November 19, 2008, 08:05:18 AM
hmmmm i dunno.  But are there really moves you can learn?  If you are paying to learn these moves...i think you are being taken..

Yes, there are "move" or algorithims as they are called among the cube  elite (not me :) ). The videos are freely available on You Tube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeRFCTHRk7g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeRFCTHRk7g)

This is the guy that taught Will Smith how to do it for his role in the Pursuit of Happiness. These are the moves I learned
Title: Re: Cheating or not?
Post by: PowerOfCheese on November 19, 2008, 08:08:29 AM
Definitely not cheating.

Chess for instance, learning some classic opening moves in chess is part of the game. They're even referred to by name.

Also like Sodoku. Sometimes you can only get so far without using a systematic approach.
Title: Re: Cheating or not?
Post by: Tom McGarry. on November 19, 2008, 08:36:19 AM
I just peel the stickers off and stick them back on, when nobody's looking.
Title: Re: Cheating or not?
Post by: Mr. Wilson on November 19, 2008, 08:38:49 AM
Its close enough to cheating...
Title: Re: Cheating or not?
Post by: warhawk on November 19, 2008, 08:56:29 AM
hey doug:  no... i don't think it is cheating.  it's similar 2 purchasing a reference book on the stragedies of blackjack or poker.  it's just a guide.  cheating would B "peeling" off the stickers on the rubik's cube. 

WARHAWK O0
Title: Re: Cheating or not?
Post by: Tom McGarry. on November 19, 2008, 08:59:07 AM
Thanks Warhawk.
Title: Re: Cheating or not?
Post by: warhawk on November 19, 2008, 09:08:39 AM
Thanks Warhawk.
:px :px

WARHAWK O0
Title: Re: Cheating or not?
Post by: Mikekoz13 on November 19, 2008, 10:44:54 AM
While I don't consider it cheating, I'm wondering why anybody would want to do that. It sort of takes all the fun out of it...........
Title: Re: Cheating or not?
Post by: GASlick on November 19, 2008, 06:45:18 PM
Isn't the point of the cube to solve it?

I would say no, it's not cheating.
Title: Re: Cheating or not?
Post by: Alexander215 on November 19, 2008, 08:55:45 PM
Isn't the point of the cube to solve it?

I would say no, it's not cheating.

It's just like making a game play for football.
Title: Re: Cheating or not?
Post by: champ007 on November 19, 2008, 09:04:50 PM
When this thing first came out I was in high school and figured out "the system" to solve it.
My science teacher, who was smart but not a fast learner, decided that I would benefit more teaching him how to solve this puzzle than doing the assignments the other students were doing. He learned the system and I got my first A+ in high school that year!!

So no, its not cheating. Its learning and sometimes getting an A+  O0
Title: Re: Cheating or not?
Post by: SlyHigh on November 24, 2008, 06:52:42 AM
I never peeled the stickers off.  I took the whole thing apart.

But I did get a book on how to solve it.  It's not cheating unless your goal is to solve it totally by yourself.
Title: Re: Cheating or not?
Post by: skiking on November 24, 2008, 06:59:49 AM
I don't think that it is cheating, there is still some thought to it and memorizing algorithms is fun :D

But it becomes addictive and now I need new stickers, I am missing a few.
Title: Re: Cheating or not?
Post by: -Doug- on November 24, 2008, 07:05:58 AM
...But I did get a book on how to solve it.  It's not cheating unless your goal is to solve it totally by yourself.

My goal is to totally solve it on my own.....I can do 2/3's of it on my own. I just need to work on the final 1/3'd.

I don't think that it is cheating, there is still some thought to it and memorizing algorithms is fun :D

But it becomes addictive and now I need new stickers, I am missing a few.

Me too....I've already had to use a few sharpies to color missing stickers.