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Various Non-Bald Discussions => General Discussion => Topic started by: andrew on August 09, 2008, 11:12:51 AM
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We're selling our house 8/20 and moving into the Marriot for 1+ months, which we're not looking forward to. At this point, we're packing around the clock and it seems like we've been at it forever. Every time we move we always say we'll not accummulate junk like we did before, but then do it again.
We're at each others throats now too, with all of the pressures of moving getting to us all. While we've moved several times before, never moved into temporary housing between houses. This is going to suck ...
I needed to vent, so thanks for listening ...
Andrew
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Hang in therebro and envision yourself on the "otherside" of the move..
it'll be over sooner than later..
I was there with a one year old and an extremely hot humid cali summer month...horrible!
Hang tough and wipe that sweat off that shiny bald head ;)! O0
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Look at the bright side....the Marriot has housekeeping service and a POOL!
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I'm with ya Andrew. I moved last weekend. It's hell
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Moving is the freakin' worst.....
I've done what yer doin' we lived in an Extended Stay Suites for 3 months, with sh*t stored and half-moved.
Yeah....I was grumpy
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Hang in there Andrew. It's a pain but will eventually be worth it. Kow what you mean about the endless packing though. If I ever have to move again, whoever buys the house gets EVERY FREAKIN THING in it. ;D
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Hang in there Andrew. It's a pain but will eventually be worth it. Kow what you mean about the endless packing though. If I ever have to move again, whoever buys the house gets EVERY FREAKIN THING in it. ;D
Yeah...when we moved in 2006....we splurged and hired movers...
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Thanks guys... We're having movers come and they'll take our stuff into their storage facility. But, we rented a storage space today for fragile things and stuff we'll want access to while in temporary housing.
It wouldn't be so bad if we were going directly into the house we're buying (trying to). This guy doesn't get how bad the market is, and is actually jerking me around even when I'm paying him close the asking price. If we didn't love the house we wouldn't put up with him. He's already missed one closing date (8/20) and his next deadline is 9/19. I want him to think that I'll go elsewhere if he misses that, but we'll likely keep waiting. I know it sounds crazy but his house just meets are needs in so many ways.
Back to the packing ....
Andrew
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Yeah, if you seem to eager, he thinks he has ya over a barrel. Play it cool like you plan and hopefully all will go well.
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Yeah, if you seem to eager, he thinks he has ya over a barrel. Play it cool like you plan and hopefully all will go well.
So far, I've tried to play it cool, making comments about other houses I'm interested in. Who knows, when I'm sitting in the Marriot with my cash in the bank, another house may come on the market that we like. Oddly enough, in our area of Connecticut, there is very little available in our price range, and we pretty much dislike all of them except for this one.
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We moved out of our house today and are selling tomorrow. We moved into the Residence Inn and it's ok, I guess. We have a 1 bedroom suite but it's really small. After going through 5 weeks of packing it was nice to relax in the pool and hot tub.
We just really want to buy the house we have a deposit on, but the deal is shakier than ever. The flakey owner won't leave until he finds a house to buy and he's rejected all 30+ houses he's looked at. If we don't get some enouraging feedback from him within the next few days, we're going to start making appointments to look at others houses ....
Andrew
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I say screw him. WHen it comes time for him to buy another house...it will be hell when he cant find a buyer for his present one. During this day in age....its tough to sell a house. Good luck with that. Like my grandmother always said....If it doesnt happen, it wasnt meant to be. Someone upstairs is watching over you bro....it will work out.
Timmay
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Look at the bright side....the Marriot has housekeeping service and a POOL!
lol, its true!
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I say screw him. WHen it comes time for him to buy another house...it will be hell when he cant find a buyer for his present one. During this day in age....its tough to sell a house. Good luck with that. Like my grandmother always said....If it doesnt happen, it wasnt meant to be. Someone upstairs is watching over you bro....it will work out.
Timmay
That's all my wife and I keep saying - "screw him ...". This dope has had his house on the market for 1 year (on and off) and had 3 deals fall apart (suprise surprise ...) If we didn't love his house so much, we'd have blown him off long ago ...
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Update: We're still living in the Marriot and it's been over 3 weeks. My daughter and the cat love it here, but my wife and I have had enough. We swim/hot tub every night and the breakfast is pretty good, but the dinners suck and our 1-bedroom suite is very small.
Our encouraging news is that our flaky seller actually found a house to buy 3 weeks before our contract expired. He told me last night that if he'd not found this house, he'd have stayed until he found one, which would have resulted in our terminating the contract with nothing else on the market we're interested in. (xmas at the marriot)
He's attempting to do a 3-week closing and it's supposed to happen 9/19 (in 9 days). Waiting for him to get mortgage approval (by Friday), which will make me believe it's really going to happen. I'm on my 8th house and I've never had such a rediculous transaction.
Crossing our fingers ....
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Me and the Mrs. will keep our digits crossed for you and your family as well! O0
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hey andrew: good news... just think of it as an early CHRISTMAS gift. O0
WARHAWK O0
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Here's wishing you good luck bro....I myself can't stand to stay in a motel for much more than a week so I can truly relate to what your going through. Keep us posted on your progress O0
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Suggest you ask him to move out and into a motel/hotel and meet the date. Can you determine if he's using your contract to purchase to close the other deal? That may give you a leg up?
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He's already made it clear that he's unwilling to move into temporary housing. He is using my contract to purchase a house, which is good. But, if he doesn't get the mortgage and isn't willing to move into temporary housing, we're all done with him.
Tommorrow (9/12) is his deadline to have mortgage comittment for the house he's buying. I was told they were hoping to have that today but I've not heard anything.
This guy has had 3 other deals fall apart, in selling his house, and I know why now ...
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Are you using a real estate agent? If so, they might be able to ask their agency lawyer to look at your contract for "specific performance" or damages based upon the amount of the deposit.
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The Latest Rollercoaster:
Our closing (the latest) to buy our house was to be 9/19. Yesterday I received good news that the closing was scheduled and all set. We celebrated (given that the hotel has grown very old). Then last night I received an email about how the seller is having trouble securing his mortgage for the house he's buying. This morning I find out that the seller is definitely not closing on his house 9/19 and they don't know when or if he will close (credit problems). The seller ruled out any temporary housing, earlier, so I thought this deal was done.
My lawyer was unable to get in touch with his lawyer (in a hearing), so at 4:00 I said screw it and call the seller directly leaving a message that laid it on the line - "DO YOU INTEND TO SELL YOUR HOUSE TO ME ON FRIDAY OR NOT". He called back 5 minutes later and said YES, and said they would move into a hotel. Welcome to my world ....
So, it seems like it's going to happen on Friday, although I'll believe it when it happens. Cross your fingers for me guys ....
Andrew
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Sounds like you need more than crossed fingers Andrew. Here's a prayer that all goes well for you this Friday.
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We moved out of our house today and are selling tomorrow. We moved into the Residence Inn and it's ok, I guess. We have a 1 bedroom suite but it's really small. After going through 5 weeks of packing it was nice to relax in the pool and hot tub.
We just really want to buy the house we have a deposit on, but the deal is shakier than ever. The flakey owner won't leave until he finds a house to buy and he's rejected all 30+ houses he's looked at. If we don't get some enouraging feedback from him within the next few days, we're going to start making appointments to look at others houses ....
Andrew
You want me and some of my "Friends " to go and have a chat with him?
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wow - I hate that all that is going on for you. I know it must be stressful.
We're all thinking about you.
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We moved out of our house today and are selling tomorrow. We moved into the Residence Inn and it's ok, I guess. We have a 1 bedroom suite but it's really small. After going through 5 weeks of packing it was nice to relax in the pool and hot tub.
We just really want to buy the house we have a deposit on, but the deal is shakier than ever. The flakey owner won't leave until he finds a house to buy and he's rejected all 30+ houses he's looked at. If we don't get some enouraging feedback from him within the next few days, we're going to start making appointments to look at others houses ....
Andrew
You want me and some of my "Friends " to go and have a chat with him?
I'm liking that idea, Anvil ....
Wow - that's a hard-core avitar, bro... I love it.
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Thanks for the support, guys ...
The closing is scheduled for 11:30 tomorrow morning, but anything could happen between now and then.
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I'll keep my fingers crossed for you Bro! O0
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Ditto what buuckkweet said.
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Thanks guys...
This morning it was OFF ... and then back ON again in the afternoon. Flakey ...
The guy selling me his house moved into the same hotel today. His kids were swimming in the pool while he moved out of the house this evening. Tonight and tomorrow night both our families are sleeping in the same hotel, while the house we've been fighting over is vacant. Because he's been such an a$$hole throughout this, it will be a little awkward crossing paths with him in the hotel.
We're closing tomorrow and the movers are coming Saturday. We're excited ...
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hey andrew: that's good news. thanks 4 the update & congrats on your new home. O0
WARHAWK O0
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Congratulations on the new house. I recently moved. It's heck!
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A fine ending, and there is life after the move.
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MY DEAL FELL THROUGH !!!!!
You guys won't believe this. We were on our way to the closing and received a call that the buyer had backed out. Apparantly they have all kinds of credit problems and were being declined for the mortgage on the house they're buying and backed out at the last minute to sell. They would have been smart to still sell their house, move into an apartment, and get their financial affairs in order.
We found out they'd not been paying their mortgage and then they were surprised they couldn't get a new mortgage. Also, they had a reverse amortization mortgage in affect, which results in their level of debt increasing over time instead of decreasing. So, they decided that since they would have come of out their house sale with nothing, they may as well stay in the house until foreclosure instead of living elsewhere. All of their belongings were loaded in a truck and pod before they made this decision today at the last minute.
Additionally, the people already moved out of the house they were buying, into an apartment. They must be furious.
My wife and daughter were crying and I've been doing my best to keep things together. I keep reminding them that as bad as things are, we'll be fine. We have our money in the bank, ready to deploy in a declining market and we will find a house.
So here we stay .... at the marriot.
Andrew
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Andrew, I'm so sorry this happened to you and your family. There is a reason for everything, and something good will cross paths with you and your family.
Mrs. BW and I will be praying for you. Hang in there Brother!
Your real estate agent needs to get off his crack and get you guys squared away REAL SOON!
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Sorry to hear this
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Andrew, that is really too bad. Sorry to hear the upsetting news. Maybe the house of your dreams is just around the corner
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hey andrew: i'm sorry 2 hear 'bout that. keep your sly noggin' up & i'm sure that there will B a better home 4 U & your family. hang in there.
WARHAWK O0
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sounds like you need to get another agent. One who actually cares about his clients. It is terrible that you have been put off like this. Hang in there bro....good is bound to come soon.
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Thanks guys...
We're still in shock as this transaction has been going on for almost 3 months. There's nothing on the market in our town that we like, that's in our range, so the wait begins.
I'm glad we moved our winter clothes into our storage facility - we're gunna need em. The rest of our stuff is in our mover's storage facility which I never intended to be paying for beyond 1 month. arghhh ...
I had to undo orders for furniture, washer/dryer, and all utilities this afternoon while my wife and daughter cried in the background. I lost several thousand in this deal and my attorney tells me there's no chance of getting anything out of him, as he's broke.
The hardest part for me was seeing my wife and daughter so upset. Today was one of the worst days of my life.
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Andrew,
Hey Big Guy, sorry to open this post, and read what is happening to you. We all have real tough times in our lives, and it is how we handle those times that makes us who we are, that makes up our character. From talking to you the last week I think you have charactor coming out the A$$, you will pull through this and find a way to keep your family tough!(I know it!) I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers, if you need anything no matter how small hit me up!
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Hang in there Andrew, my prayers are with you brother.....!!
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Andrew, I'm speechless. They obviously don't have a clue.
You're right though, in this declining market there are plenty of houses. Things happen for a reason.
Pray for the right answer.
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I would say just go to a local furniture/appliance store...get about 6 or so refridg boxes and a box of crayons so the kids can make their own wallpaper and stake out in your realitors front yard. That'll get him moving to find you a house.
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Thanks for all the support guys...
The Latest:
I finally got my deposit back today, which wasn't easy. The jerk that blew off the closing to sell me his house last Friday still claims he's going to get a mortgage for a different house and sell to me, but I highly doubt it given his severe credit problems.
Meanwhile, we've been looking at many houses and not liking anything we've seen until tonight. A house that was in foreclosure 7 months ago and purchased by an investor, is coming back on the market in 2 months. He's actually not formally purchasing it until tomorrow. I'm thinking that with the financial crisis going on, he's probably feeling good about finding a potential buyer the same day he actually purchases it.
We looked at it tonight and were blown away by it. It's bigger than we need, but much much nicer than anything we've looked at. It needs some work, but not much, and the investor is planning to do most of it, I think. We're meeting with the investor tomorrow night and will find out how much he really intends to do, as my agent has a habit of making deals seem better than they end up being.
The problems:
The biggest problem is the driveway. The house is a 3500 sq foot brick colonial up on a cliff. The driveway is steep and curvy and will be crazy to deal with in the winter, as we get alot of snow up here in New England. We have 4-wheel drive vehicles, but my 15-year old daughter will be driving next year and I can't imagine her going up or down even in the summer. We'd probably add a small paved parking area at the bottom of the driveway where there is a flat area.
The next problem is that water has leaked into the basement and there's mold on the carpeting of the finished basement. I'm told the investor is going to fix the leak issue and the mold problems. I know of a really good excavator that has fixed water problems for me and several family members. The finished basement (which we really don't need because there's more room than we need upstairs) is very nicely done with a full bath also.
The rest of the house is unbelievable. Giant kitchen, sunken family room with floor to ceiling stone fireplace, living room with high ceilings and windows. He's putting in new ss appliances and adding lighting fixtures as the foreclosee snagged many of the fixtures.
But, while we love the positives and the price is very very attractive, the negatives still exist and we're having to think real hard about that driveway. Our general feeling, at this point, is that the driveway is the concession we'd have to make to get into a house we normally couldn't affort.
What do you think, guys?
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I say go for it. But the most important is teh mold. Make sure you get taht taken care of because undetected...it can cause health problems.
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I say go for it. But the most important is teh mold. Make sure you get taht taken care of because undetected...it can cause health problems.
I don't anything about getting rid of mold, but need to learn about it quickly. Tomorrow night I'll ask the seller what his plan is to get rid of it. I have the believe the entire carpet will be trashed.
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If the investor is going to buy it and he knows your interested in it, he may not do everything that needs doing.
He may just handle the cosmetic stuff. Just make sure you get a GOOD inspector if you decide to buy it.
As for the hill, that's a personal decision only you and your family can make. I had a house on a hill and hated it. Nothing but level lots for me now.
Mold can be fixed, but some jusidictions require it be done by a certified company due to the contamination potential. It has to be done properly. Ran into that with a house we looked at. It was full of mold. If we bought it, we would have had to bring in some company with plastic sheets and environmental suits to clean it out. EXPENSIVE!
Good luck though and I am happy you found something you really like. And remember, there is no such thing as the perfect house.
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Just make sure you get a GOOD inspector if you decide to buy it.
Due to the house being vacant for a while and having numerous issues needing repair, I was going to have an electrical contractor friend and a carpenter friend check it out before putting a deposit, to identify any bigger problems.
I'll know more tomorrow night, but he may only address the issues I identify up front. So, I should probably have a full home inspection done before finalizing/negotiating the list of repairs to be included.
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Do it Right the first time bro....it will save you loads of grief later.
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Get the mold thing resolved before you do anything.
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Good luck with this house Andrew, hope everything finally falls into place for you !!
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Here we go again
The house closing that was cancelled at the last minute on 9/19 seemed to be a dead issue. Today, my mortgage rate lock expired and I was required to extend it to keep the mortgage deal active.
Upon receiving a call from the seller this morning, and his saying that he'd not heard back from his mortgage company in a few days, he said that he's officially calling off the deal (again) and moving his stuff back into his house. Yeah, his stuff has been packed in a truck and pod since 9/19 and they've been sleeping on sleeping bags. Freaks...
So, I called my mortgage company this morning and left a message for them to not bother extending my rate lock. At 6:00 pm I received a call from the agent who said he'd just heard from the seller who is claiming they have full approval for their mortgage and can close Friday or Monday at the latest.
Well ... I left a message for the mortgage broker to not bother exending my rate lock but never spoke to her afterward. So, I started calling her frantically and found out that she'd extended my rate lock this morning before I cancelled the request, and she decided to just let it ride .... WOW. I STILL HAVE MY MORTGAGE DEAL.
But, in moving foward with these flakey sellers my guard is up big-time. I'm requesting a call from their mortgage broker and will request something in writing as well. Further, if we write up a new purchase agreement, I am going to require the SELLER to give me a deposit, and the terms will be that if he doesn't close this time, I will keep the Seller's deposit. Different, but I think effective.
We shall see.... I'll believe it when I have the key in my hand.
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hey andrew: i know that this has caused some major headaches 4 U & your family but i hope everything will finalize in your favor. O0
WARHAWK O0
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Hey Andrew, hopefully this time it goes through...good luck bro.... O0
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Andrew,
Bev and I are still praying and have our fingers crossed for you and the family! O0
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Update:
The seller's troubled credit history continues to get in the way of his getting a mortgage. But, I'm told by his attorney that he may actually get it. So, we wait and wait ...
Meanwhile, my agent called me at 5:00 today and mentioned she has a new listing hitting the market tommorrow. I knew of the house and asked to see it ASAP. We looked at the house at 6:45, LOVED IT, and made an offer at 8:00 pm. It was a low offer, but given the times, I didn't feel bad about it. We have some room to go up in price, but not that much room.
Meanwhile, the seller of the house I've been trying to buy for months now, who blew me off on the day of the closing is assumming that I'm committed to buying his house. I've already gotten my deposit back and don't have an active contract. Our plan has been to write up a quick contract right before closing, if they finally get their mortgage to purchase.
Not sure if we'll get this newly discovered house, as they may not want to negotiate down low enough for us to swing it. But, in this market if they're smart, they'll make an attempt to work with us.
I'm not telling the other seller about this, and just letting his deal ride as a backup plan. Perhaps he'll now realize how crazy he was to NOT take the money and run.
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Andrew, if you the original home owner comes back to you, you should offer less money citing the extra amount you had to spend in the hotel.
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Good luck again andrew, still hoping everything works out for you O0
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My thoughts are with you, along with my best wishes, Andrew. Reading of your ordeal makes me want to go kick something, on your behalf. :Xo!
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Andrew, if you the original home owner comes back to you, you should offer less money citing the extra amount you had to spend in the hotel.
While that is the logical thing to do, this guy owes as much as his house is worth, so anything less puts him upside down. We have been willing to pay the same price agreed upon 3 months ago because we loved the house. But, now that we've found another house, this guy will try to sell to another family and find out very quickly that nobody will give him enough to break even.
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Well guys .... my dramatic house buying story may actually come to an end in the near future. We struck a deal on the house we saw last night and couldn't be happier. The sellers are in trouble (for reasons unknown) and came way down on their asking price, at least partly because of our ability to make this happen quickly.
Meanwhile, I'm not going to bother calling the prior sellers, who screwed us over, and let them continue to think we're living in the marriot waiting for them to get a mortgage (which won't happen).
Along the way, so many people said "everything happens for a reason", and I believe that now. The new house is a much better deal and closer to our dream house than the prior one.
Thanks for all the support ...
Andrew
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Andrew, I am so happy for you and your family. It must a relief.
Congratulations and keep us posted!
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hey andrew: i'm glad that everything worked out 4 U & your family. congrats, buddy. O0
WARHAWK O0
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Man, you must be breathing a HUGE sigh of relief. I'm very happy for you and your family! ;D
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Congrats to you and your family Andrew !! I guess the wait seems worth it now since you ended up with a much nicer place at a better price. Hope all goes smooth for you from here on in..... O0
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Congratulations Andrew!! It sounds like everything worked out for the best.
Max
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IRONHORSE...just dont kick the beer bottles over ok...
Andrew, like it has been said before- Good things come to those who wait. You never know, the original house may have had some secret problems. Give it time and all these days you have stayed at the mariott will be funny to reflect on. Imagine the stories your kids will have to tell their kids. Things will work out. Glad you stuck thru it all and didnt give up. Your reward is coming soon. Good Luck
Timmay
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Thanks again guys ....
I just started the mortgage app process over again and it's nothing like before (even a few months ago). With the mortgage and financial crisis happening, it's a new world, and banks are being extra extra careful now, as they should. But, it means more red tape and paperwork for the applicants.
We really stretched our limits for this house, but we're getting a great deal on it, so I'm hoping it will be worth the stretch.
Andrew
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Down the Home Stretch
Our closing is scheduled for 1 week from tomorrow (11/14). Everything is going smoothly this time and we're expecting to finally have a home of our own again soon. I have to say, though, the people in the Marriot have been great. They've become our extended family and we'll likely come back to visit occassionally.
Interestingly, this thread has become my journal of the crazy ride we've taken in this journey to a new home.
Andrew
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Congratulations. I hope everything goes well for you. It's been a long journey for you and your family.
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Congrats again Andrew !! O0
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hey andrew: congrats & i'm very happy 4 U & your family. thanks 4 keep us posted. O0
WARHAWK O0
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Quick Update:
We closed on our new house today. The place is everything we expected and more. But, everything is completely chaotic at this point. Movers moved our stuff in but we've not unpacked anything yet. We're sleeping at the hotel one last night and moving out of here first thing in the morning.
Back to work ...
Andrew
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Congrats Bro !!! P@^
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hey andrew: CONGRATS & thanks 4 sharing your good news....just in time 4 THANKSgiving. O0
WARHAWK O0
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Andrew!
Bro! That is great! P@^
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It will soon be over..congrats and enjoy bro!
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P@^
Congratulations! It must be a relief.
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Congrats Andrew! O0
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Congrats Andrew.....so is there a SLY Bald Guy Housewarming party in order????
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Final Chapter
This is the end of my long journey to a new house. It began in May when we put our house on the market and has ended with our moving into a new one this past Friday.
I can say with confidence that this was by far my most painful move (8th house), due to spending 3 months in a hotel and having the other purchase transaction fall apart on my way to the closing.
But, in the end it was worth it. Although we spent more for this house than we were planning to spend, we got an unbelievable deal on it. Timing is a funny thing. We ended up selling our house for quite a bit more than we could get now (before the market tanked), and benefited from buying in a lower market now and from sellers in a very nasty divorce who just wanted to dump this house as fast as they could and go their separate ways.
When my last transaction fell apart on the day of the closing, many people said "everything happens for a reason", and at the time I just thought "yeah, right ..." Now I realize they were right.
Thanks for all the support along the way guys ...
Andrew
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Congrats and great news bro. O0
Now relax for a minute. ;D
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Congratulations Andrew. Glad that all turned out alright in the end. Enjoy that new home.
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Congratulations Andrew! Now back to a normal life.
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Way to go Andrew! Enjoy your well deserved new home! O0
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Good luck to you bro... O0
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A late congrats Andrew, good to hear things turned out better for you.
Sometimes things just have a way of working out.
Enjoy the new home! O0
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If I ever move again I'm going to try to sell my stuff via flea market or give it all away to goodwill :D.
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If I ever move again I'm going to try to sell my stuff via flea market or give it all away to goodwill :D.
That's what I should have done. My plan was to be living in the hotel for 3 weeks, but that turned into 3 months. My storage costs for 3 months came to $2100. I should have gotten rid of half of my stuff(even thrown away), when considering the cost of storing.
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Congrats, you da man for sticking it out. O0