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Title: spelling
Post by: no1birdman on July 09, 2008, 10:27:17 AM
Obviously, being from the UK, I spell things differently, and being the stubborn guy I am, I think my way is the proper way of spelling, like the differences between color and colour, and centre and center. And also the difference in words, like Pants over here means underpants in America, and pants in America are trousers.

I was just wondering where other people stand on the difference between the two languages, and which ones they think is the 'proper' spellings.
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Mikekoz13 on July 09, 2008, 10:37:45 AM
I love Brits..... but you folks really do need to learn how to spell  ;) ;)
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Post by: tomgallagher on July 09, 2008, 10:41:09 AM
Ain't it the truth.
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: StumpyDave on July 09, 2008, 11:17:09 AM
Whilst I can't really get worked up about it, I do prefer the English I learned at school.
However there are enough variations in this little country on how it is spoken so one has to accept that Americans, isolated as they are from the motherland, will slip in their ways and I feel it is our duty to point out their follies whenever possible.

I really dislike the poor spelling and grammar that are now common in society though, especially in job applications that I see.  Particularly irksome are those that don't know when to use their, there or they're.

... and don't start me on apostrophes!
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: skiking on July 09, 2008, 12:13:31 PM
Most of the time I don't care about using proper grammar or spelling.  That being said, on a weekly basis, I am forced to use old english using words I would never use in everyday speech to write legal descriptions for deeds.  I even had a class in college that was entirely focused on how to write them.
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Jer on July 09, 2008, 03:38:36 PM
Hey!  I'm with birdman on this one guys!  I mean colour, demeanour, endeavour, favour, fibre, harbour, humour, labour, licence, learnt, neighbour, offence, parlour, rumour, savious, savour, valour, vapour.

It bugs me so much too cause I see all the red from the spell check when I'm typing.  So I'll go and fix it then I'll read through and change all the spelling back again.  Sometimes if I'm tired I'll repeat that process of auto correcting and manually correcting several times before posting or sending something.   :*))  What makes that whole process worse is that out computers at work correct things with the standard American spelling, yet when I'm doing reports that'll be entered in court, they should be the Canadian way so I repeat the process there many times as well.  I've got to find a Canadian English spell checker! 
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Timmay on July 09, 2008, 04:30:58 PM
Hey!  I'm with birdman on this one guys!  I mean colour, demeanour, endeavour, favour, fibre, harbour, humour, labour, licence, learnt, neighbour, offence, parlour, rumour, savious, savour, valour, vapour.


OK I STOP YOU RIGHT THERE>>>>LEARNT is not a word..lol
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: FR8TRAIN on July 09, 2008, 04:38:21 PM
Hey!  I'm with birdman on this one guys!  I mean colour, demeanour, endeavour, favour, fibre, harbour, humour, labour, licence, learnt, neighbour, offence, parlour, rumour, savious, savour, valour, vapour.


OK I STOP YOU RIGHT THERE>>>>LEARNT is not a word..lol

It is in Southern Speak. I'll use it in a sentence.

My daddy learnt me to ride a bike. ;D

Can you back me up here PBurke?
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Sly Red on July 09, 2008, 04:50:53 PM

It is in Southern Speak. I'll use it in a sentence.

My daddy learnt me to ride a bike. ;D


Be careful Southerner bashing  :Xo!

Red(neck)
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Robmeister on July 09, 2008, 04:53:01 PM
Hey!  I'm with birdman on this one guys!  I mean colour, demeanour, endeavour, favour, fibre, harbour, humour, labour, licence, learnt, neighbour, offence, parlour, rumour, savious, savour, valour, vapour.


OK I STOP YOU RIGHT THERE>>>>LEARNT is not a word..lol

And OK I STOP YOU RIGHT THERE

Sounds like Asian American  :*))
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Robmeister on July 09, 2008, 04:55:25 PM

It is in Southern Speak. I'll use it in a sentence.

My daddy learnt me to ride a bike. ;D


Be careful Southerner bashing  :Xo!

Red(neck)

Naahhhh.....Paulie and PigPen (just to name 2) are proud, self-proclaimed rednecks.  So secure and grounded in their redneckness that no offense would be taken.
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: JohnMont on July 09, 2008, 05:15:20 PM

I inadvertently started a whole big 'tiff' when I used Brit / Canadian spellling; so I should probably not get into this; but can't resist . ..

glad to see the guys on THIS thread have a sense of HUMOUR about it all

John
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: FR8TRAIN on July 09, 2008, 05:25:46 PM
Oh I wasn't Bashing Southerners at all. I was just telling the trueff. ;D
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: GASlick on July 09, 2008, 10:06:43 PM
Southern bashing?!  Who's Southern Bashing????  lol

Can't nobody bash us Southerners except US! ;D

Learnt is a word.  So is "ain't", "fixinto" and "gonna".  Along with many others.  "etyet" is another great Southern word.  For example, when folks come over to the house you always say, "Ya'll look hungry. Etyet?"

It's like a whole 'nother world down here.  However, I have never REPEAT never humped a cousin.  lol  Although I do have one that is really HOT!  Love her!
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Timmay on July 09, 2008, 10:10:49 PM
Well I AINT got NO scruff wiff that.  Y'all just sit down dare and relax a bit.  Im gonna go out yonder and fetch me some fiddles and we's all gonna have on hell of a barbeque right out here on the ol fire pit.  Then we's can all go and have a dip in the cement pond.  And I aint gonna hear no bickering and fighting about it E-der.  Ef y'all wanna knock each udder out ober it...den y'alls just take it out there  in the back 40 where  I's dont haff to sit and watch y'all  makin fools of ya selfs.
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Robmeister on July 09, 2008, 10:12:02 PM
Lived in the South myself for 4 years....

Instead of "turning" the tv on or off....it's "cutting" it on or off...

Instead of "pushing" down the pedal or the button....

It's "mashin'" it down....

Grits rule....Piggly Wiggly.....Lizard's Thicket....Waffle House...sweet tea  :@`
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: wpruitt on July 09, 2008, 10:15:02 PM
My favorite is still "mama'em".  
Usage:  "Who's coming over for supper tonight?"  "Oh, just Mama'em"

(Translation - mother and family )
                                            
Southern bashing?!  Who's Southern Bashing????  lol

Can't nobody bash us Southerners except US! ;D

Learnt is a word.  So is "ain't", "fixinto" and "gonna".  Along with many others.  "etyet" is another great Southern word.  For example, when folks come over to the house you always say, "Ya'll look hungry. Etyet?"

It's like a whole 'nother world down here.  However, I have never REPEAT never humped a cousin.  lol  Although I do have one that is really HOT!  Love her!
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: GASlick on July 09, 2008, 10:17:31 PM
Timm - you are so funny!  Just for the record my "pond" in vinyl!

And we in the South are very hospitable.  We just let anyone in.  We have a saying in my family  "Ain't never been a stranger in this house.  Been some strange people, but no strangers." 

Ya'll come back now, y'here!
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Timmay on July 09, 2008, 10:19:09 PM
up here in sw indiana we call the sink ..a "Zinc"  and we change our Oral instead of oil.  Instead of im going to run to the grocery store to pick up groceries....its Imma gonna run...  another ol saying

its 13 of one or half a dozen of another.  You cant make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.  Or when someone isnt very productive on their job..we say Well Robmeister isnt very workbrickle.
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: wpruitt on July 09, 2008, 10:20:40 PM
Well I AINT got NO scruff wiff that.  Y'all just sit down dare and relax a bit.  Im gonna go out yonder and fetch me some fiddles and we's all gonna have on hell of a barbeque right out here on the ol fire pit.  Then we's can all go and have a dip in the cement pond.  And I aint gonna hear no bickering and fighting about it E-der.  Ef y'all wanna knock each udder out ober it...den y'alls just take it out there  in the back 40 where  I's dont haff to sit and watch y'all  makin fools of ya selfs.
Just because a cat has kittens in the oven, don't mean they're biscuits.
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Timmay on July 09, 2008, 10:21:22 PM
Oh and for the record...around here it Aint so much the spellin....its the pronounciation....lol  bunch of ol farm hicks around these neck of the woods.  
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Timmay on July 09, 2008, 10:24:52 PM
But momma, I didn't say nothing bad to Billie Sue .... I just told her that her cheerleading routine was 'special' ..... bless her heart."
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: GASlick on July 09, 2008, 10:26:16 PM
You do know that "Bless your heart" is NOT a compliment, right?
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Post by: wpruitt on July 09, 2008, 10:36:19 PM
You do know that "Bless your heart" is NOT a compliment, right?
As in, "Bless his heart, but his elevator don't go all the way to the top".
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: GASlick on July 09, 2008, 10:38:16 PM
"I hope she marries rich, bless her heart."
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Post by: Timmay on July 09, 2008, 10:39:16 PM
Yes I know that....my cereal bowl aint a few frootloops shy of a full bowl either
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Post by: Timmay on July 09, 2008, 10:40:48 PM
well i just got the notion to bend you over my knee and give you backside a whippin
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: wpruitt on July 09, 2008, 10:45:02 PM
My favorite, though, Slick, comes from Lewis Grizzard:
"We may talk funny, but we ain't no Southerner ever paid $5.00 a head to watch 'Lucky Joe' wrestle an alligator, which was nothing but a dog painted green."

Timm ... if you want to know how a true Southerner thinks, speaks, and acts, go get a few books and CD's by the late, great Lewis Grizzard.
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: GASlick on July 09, 2008, 10:47:09 PM
THE great Southern humorist.  He was so great.  I have several of his books that I need to re-read.

Lewis Grizzard was so funny.  Erma Bombeck is another good one.
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Timmay on July 09, 2008, 10:51:09 PM
I had an experience.  Remember now my wife grew up in the country so she knows all of the slang.  We were at her parents house .."way out in the country" One of the neighbor ladies had come to the door, She wanted to know if she could borrow some''ASS""I SAID WHAT! SHE said do you have some 'ASS'
SO I know i looked puzzled,I said hold on a min...Honey the neighbor wants some "ASS" She said what! So she came to the door and asked her,  she looked at me and said NO SHE WANTS TO KNOW IF WE HAVE ICE..She needed some ice.So i felt about 1inch tall,but it sounded like ass to me in the END we all LAUGHED TOGETHER

Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Sly Red on July 10, 2008, 03:48:46 AM

Lewis Grizzard was so funny.  Erma Bombeck is another good one.

Here's another hysterical book about southerners and their affectations.

A Southern Belle Primer by Marilyn Schwartz

(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.comcast.net%2F%7Edyarborough%2FSBP.jpg&hash=e5f5c4a8e0dba838b9131a4d0aefc3e79f4fb00d)
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: FR8TRAIN on July 10, 2008, 08:07:51 AM
 #i&@
Man dis thread has been HIJACKED by a bunch of country hicks. ;D gu!l+) Although I grew up in Michigan, my parents, though not cousins, are from Kentucky. I heard some great ones growing up.

How 'bout youin's? Like, "How youin's been?"

 #i&@
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: TheTrucker on July 10, 2008, 08:13:19 AM
I'm a born and bred Southerner myself. We do have our own version of English LOL

As for the original post, I feel that a person should use the spelling that is proper for their area. In college I drove one of my English professors crazy by insisting upon using the British spellings for words such as colour. I only did it because he was an English snob and British spellings were one of his pet peeves and once I learned this I couldn't resist.

Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Jer on July 10, 2008, 08:51:25 AM
One that really gets me from the southern truckers I deal with is the "Doo ut neh?" when they don't understand.  I know they are just asking "Do what now?" and really only wanting clarification or for me to repeat what I asked.
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Tyler on July 10, 2008, 10:18:11 AM
Hey Jer, in Canada, is "eh" a proper word?

While we Americans have some pretty funny sayings, the Brits can't be topped.  I mean, how do you end up calling the telephone a "dog?"

OH AND THIS IS MY FAVORITE! 

"I bent over for a fag" means an entirely different thing in the US as it does in Brittan.
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Jer on July 10, 2008, 10:44:22 AM
 :o

"I bent over for a fag"

 :o   :*))  Sorry, you made that too easy!

Well, I do believe that "eh" is actually found in dictionaries here in Canada.  And hey, it's really an all encompassing word eh!

I find though that many languages have become quite bastardized.  French in Quebec is, I think, the worst for it especially because of how anti-English they are.   The easiest to think of is weekend.  I grew up learning that you were to say "Fin de semaine" and that was the only term in the dictionary.  Now though, you look in a Canadian French English Dictionary, and what do you find as the translation of 'weekend', well, you find 'le weekend'
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Jer on July 10, 2008, 10:59:56 AM
How to properly use 'eh'
Types of 'eh' and examples!

1. Statement of opinion -- Nice day, eh?

2. Statements of fact -- It goes over here, eh?

3. Commands -- Open the window, eh? -- Think about it, eh?

4. Exclamations -- What a game, eh?

5. Questions -- What are they trying to do, eh?

6. To mean ‘pardon’ -- Eh? What did you say?

7. In fixed expressions -- Thanks, eh? -- I know, eh?

8. Insults -- You’re a real snob, eh?

9. Accusations -- You took the last piece, eh?

10. Telling a story -- This guy is up on the 27th floor, eh? then he gets out on the ledge, eh . . .
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Robmeister on July 10, 2008, 11:02:24 AM
How to properly use 'eh'
Types of 'eh' and examples!

1. Statement of opinion -- Nice day, eh?

2. Statements of fact -- It goes over here, eh?

3. Commands -- Open the window, eh? -- Think about it, eh?

4. Exclamations -- What a game, eh?

5. Questions -- What are they trying to do, eh?

6. To mean ‘pardon’ -- Eh? What did you say?

7. In fixed expressions -- Thanks, eh? -- I know, eh?

8. Insults -- You’re a real snob, eh?

9. Accusations -- You took the last piece, eh?

10. Telling a story -- This guy is up on the 27th floor, eh? then he gets out on the ledge, eh . . .

So you can basically get pretty close to the "proper usage" by attaching "eh?" to any sentence or statement  ;)
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: JohnMont on July 10, 2008, 11:03:09 AM

I find though that many languages have become quite bastardized.  French in Quebec is, I think, the worst for it especially because of how anti-English they are.   The easiest to think of is weekend.  I grew up learning that you were to say "Fin de semaine" and that was the only term in the dictionary.  Now though, you look in a Canadian French English Dictionary, and what do you find as the translation of 'weekend', well, you find 'le weekend'
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Jer, You don't acuallly think these guys are interested in French, eh? !

Title: Re: spelling
Post by: hammerdrill376 on July 10, 2008, 11:08:38 AM
Ya'll didn't bring ur headblade wid-ja-did-ja??

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Post by: tomgallagher on July 10, 2008, 11:11:49 AM
I have been told by some of my friends from France that the language they speak in Quebec is really not Fremch. Whatever that means.
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Post by: Jer on July 10, 2008, 11:13:33 AM
Eh?  Hasn't this whole post become about languages and expressions though?  That was just the first example eh, that popped into my mind eh, about how bastardized languages have become.  So yeah eh, I agree many may not be interested in the French, but it was simply an example eh.  I'm am rather impressed with your use of 'eh' eh!

Robmeister, don't you just love it eh?  It really is probably one of the most versatile words out there eh?
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: JohnMont on July 10, 2008, 11:33:00 AM

after living in canada 1 1/2 yrs, I hear 'eh' a lot, but not half as much as i thought I would, eh?
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Post by: Timmay on July 10, 2008, 11:34:05 AM
Well I have heard that the to biggest squabbles about language is between the Finnish and the Swede's.  The Fins cant stand to listen to the Swedes talk...they say they sound like garage eh.
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Sly Red on July 10, 2008, 11:37:18 AM
Quote

Well, I do believe that "eh" is actually found in dictionaries here in Canada.  And hey, it's really an all encompassing word eh!


It's even in The American Heritage Dictionary, eh.

Red
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Jer on July 10, 2008, 11:37:44 AM
Most true Canadians will say 'EH' about as often as your average teenage girl says 'like, you know'
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Timmay on July 10, 2008, 11:40:58 AM
"Like you know"  sounds like my daughter.  I cant stand it when she tries to point something out to you.  Like the other day...she looked at me and said Dad..you got a lil  " sumpin sumpin "  on your cheek there dad.
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: hammerdrill376 on July 10, 2008, 12:12:46 PM
"Like you know"  sounds like my daughter.  I cant stand it when she tries to point something out to you.  Like the other day...she looked at me and said Dad..you got a lil  " sumpin sumpin "  on your cheek there dad.

TimmJ.. I have a 16 year old and I feel your pain. I have also learned if she says.."Daddy I love you.." its usually going to be followed by a request for money..LOL
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Jer on July 10, 2008, 12:17:02 PM
"Like you know"  sounds like my daughter.  I cant stand it when she tries to point something out to you.  Like the other day...she looked at me and said Dad..you got a lil  " sumpin sumpin "  on your cheek there dad.

TimmJ.. I have a 16 year old and I feel your pain. I have also learned if she says.."Daddy I love you.." its usually going to be followed by a request for money..LOL

 :*)) :*))  I use the "mom, dad, have I told you how much I love you?" line when I'm home visiting and it works great, I always get a cooler full of prepared meals to take home, and my mom is a chef, so it's DAMN good!
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: J Digory on July 10, 2008, 12:27:34 PM
My favorite band is Living Colour, so I prefer that spelling. As for the oddities, technically they are both right. It depends on where it is being used. On an international english speaking forums such as this, both are correct. Don't get your pants ruffled.
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Robmeister on July 10, 2008, 01:22:42 PM
My favorite band is Living Colour

Doood....Living Colour is one of my fav's too !!!
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: J Digory on July 10, 2008, 01:29:19 PM
Cool, cool. Do you like George Clinton and P-Funk? I just saw them last friday!
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Timmay on July 10, 2008, 01:48:44 PM
readin', ritin' and rithmatic... THE THREE R's
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: Robmeister on July 10, 2008, 02:30:11 PM
Cool, cool. Do you like George Clinton and P-Funk? I just saw them last friday!

Haven't heard them enough, bro....but I been diggin' on L.C. since 1990 !
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: J Digory on July 10, 2008, 02:36:12 PM
Same here. I grew up in a neighborhood where were one of the VERY few white families. I always listened to rap and hip-hop...but then Living Colour introduced me to rock that wasn't all screaming and angry, and actually had some soul.
Title: Re: spelling
Post by: StumpyDave on July 11, 2008, 04:12:14 AM
The cigarette issue is the greatest source of amusement.
I don't suppose to many people in the states have been asked "Can I bum a fag?"

Regional dialects are always interesting as well.  There is a massive variation in the way that English is spoken across Britain.  Try reading Trainspotting by Irvine Welsh.