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Title: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: baldbiker on May 07, 2008, 08:06:49 AM
Once you hit submit on a new post - is it in stone?

If you are able to edit your original post - I just haven't figured out how yet ???

Also - is there a reputation for each user on this forum - other than just how many posts they have?

I like the way you've got things going here - but those are two things I frequently use on the other forum so I'm "used" to using them.

I'm still very new here, so to me I can adjust to anything as I love this forum already!!!

If you are interested in how the other forum works I will attach a link:
http://xlforum.net/vbportal/modules.php?name=Jig

Anywayz - like I said - not trying to change things - just showing anyone who might care a thing or two I like about my other forum!

BB
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: baldbiker on May 07, 2008, 08:08:15 AM
Duh... I just now have found how I can edit a post - got that one cleared up!!!  :*)) :*)) :*))
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: PigPen on May 07, 2008, 08:22:35 AM
You can add comments in the profile section. Go to your profile and click on Forum Information I think it is.
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: schro on May 07, 2008, 08:42:15 AM
I think many of the regular posters already have developed their "reputations".....sly.  8)
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: baldbiker on May 07, 2008, 08:55:45 AM
I think many of the regular posters already have developed their "reputations".....sly.  8)

Thats fine and dandy for the regulars...

But what reputation has been built with someone who comes to this forum for the first time? I've only been here a few days, and I do recognize faces (avatars,) but I can't imagine that I've even seen a small percentage of those on this forum.

Reputation is good for new users - as it allows them to weigh/filter their decisions off of advice offered in the forums.

It is a good tool that I use on other forums, and just curious why there is no system for rep here?

I'm open to all feedback on this topic - and if you have another thread already discussing - please show me the way!

Thanks

BB
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: schro on May 07, 2008, 09:18:57 AM
Not extremely tech saavy, and this is the only online forum in which I participate. So, is a reputation something that is maintained by the website? To me, a reputation is something that is more personal opinion than something electronically generated. I'm certain I have a reputation with some of the members that's pretty good. However, I have a feeling my reputation is not so good with others. Can't please everyone, nor do I care to try.

Not certain what it is you're looking for, BB.
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: Timmay on May 07, 2008, 09:29:06 AM
??????  why fix something that isnt broken?  I guess im lost on this subject.....i consider us all equal in here....i could careless about the number of post one has or what his status is....unless it says moderator or admin....boy you had better listen to those people...they will rip you a new one LOL..

Timmay
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: TheSlyBear on May 07, 2008, 09:48:58 AM
I've found that in other forums that allow "reputation" or "rating" it just devolves into cliques and board politics. As others have said, we've each built our own reputation here and you'll catch on as you hang out more.
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: baldbiker on May 07, 2008, 02:35:01 PM
Just another perspective on this...

There have been several of you that I would like to thank for the great advice - or great support you have given.

Now I could say my appreciation with a new thread, or I could send a PM - but it would be easier to give rep to that person as a sign of appreciation.

Either way - doesn't matter... I've found a new group that I love to talk to - brothers in the baldhood.. so, I don't care if we have it or not, but just thought I would throw my $.02 out there.

Thanks for the feedback!!
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: JDog on May 07, 2008, 05:18:52 PM
BaldBiker, while I understand the theory of reputation that you speak of on the other forum, this type of forum isnt based on that. Like BootedBear has said, I've found on other forums that I have been on , this type of system tends to polarize people and you can have dozens of different cliques and problems that arise from them. Not saying this happened on your other forum but I think this would be a big reason why Tyler has set up this forum in this manner.

Bottom line is that we are all equal here. Tyler is head cheese and he has about 8-10 Moderators who assist him in managing this forum. For the most part(99.9%),we get along and rarely have any disagreements ,if we do, they are handled in a mature manner as we are all adults here.

Above all is our love for being bald. Glad  you are a part of it mate.
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: tomgallagher on May 07, 2008, 05:30:09 PM
I don't understand the concept of reputation as it is being used here.
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: Marz on May 07, 2008, 06:14:38 PM
I have used the reputation thing on other forums but they were mainly those that had thousands of people and trades, sales, etc. were involved. Just like post count, reputation tends to become a game with folks and not a give or take honor system type of thing.

I think around here you are just going to get a handful of opinions on a topic and the favorable opinion or correct answer will flush itself out.
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: Tyler on May 07, 2008, 06:26:28 PM
Thanks for answering this everyone.  I thought about adding reputation when I first started the boards and I found mixed emotions on it from several forum owners.  I decided against it as I feel SBG should be more about helping the person who comes here and not about building a reputation.  I understand the value of reputation, especially on forums that have to do with matter of fact topics and very large forums.  Maybe as we get into the tens of thousands of members I will add the feature.

Thanks for the suggestion!  I'm always open to making this a better place and this will only happen faster if I get suggestions like this one.
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: Timmay on May 07, 2008, 08:17:16 PM
Tyler, I think all this chat needs right now is a buffet.......does anyone oppose??
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: Nick912 on May 07, 2008, 08:47:39 PM
You know I think we all know everyones reputation around here. I dont think we need to have a lil game like that. Everyone here has a great rep to me and I cant wait to meet some of yall!
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: Mikekoz13 on May 08, 2008, 05:09:49 AM
You know I think we all know everyones reputation around here. I dont think we need to have a lil game like that. Everyone here has a great rep to me and I cant wait to meet some of yall!


Nick nails it!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: GASlick on May 08, 2008, 06:26:57 AM
This is the only forum I'm part of  as well and understand the concept of reputation.  I think we all know what we're about for the most part.  At least the ones that actively participate.
We are earning our reps the old fashioned way - honest discussion and interaction.  We don't always agree, but who agrees all the time?  We just accept and move on!  Love my SLY Brothers!
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: baldbiker on May 08, 2008, 03:03:01 PM
This is a losing battle on my side... and I'm not even trying to win...
Please understand I am NOT trying to win a conversation or crowd into my thinking - but at this point I just want everyone to have a clear idea of what I posted.

I feel as though many of the responses to this post (the ones opposing reputation) have done so in a negative fashion without having a balanced understanding of why it is used.

In this forum, I can see how reputation is not a needed necessity. Although, I can see how it could have it's benefits too!

Having reputation DOES NOT create cliques, create bad attitudes, or even "devolve into board politics". If this is your opinion on reputation, please take a moment to read the following to help you understand how rep works.

In every board that I have been in the past - and currently contribute to, reputation (which is just another word for kudos) is a fun way to slap a bud (or a complete stranger) on the back and say - great point, good call, or good post. 

So, to better feel that I am getting my thoughts across, I will give a brief synopsis of how reputation would work - on this board.

My first day to the forums, I had just gone sly, was lurking the net for new techniques and came across this site. I wasn't even sure if I liked myself sly yet.
Right after I submitted my first post, I had MANY of you come out and tell me how much better I looked, and gave me motivational information to help me feel more at home sly.

Of the many responders, BaldAndre seemed to hit home the most with his comments. Now sure, I could respond in that thread to him stating that I REALLY appreciate his encouragement - but then only the few of you that read that particular thread would know that I thanked him.

If we had reputation - I could have clicked the small icon by his avatar designated for reputation, and boom, just like that I would have added to his reputation. He didn't ask for it.

Keep in mind that reputation hunting (asking others or starting a thread devoted to reputation - or others giving you reputation) is a bad offense. So - nobody would do it.

Also - reputation is only a positive feedback tool. I could not take reputation from someone - only give.

Another place I would have given rep would have been Nick912, I found his product review on shave creams to be extensive and very helpful in my hunt for a good shaving cream. Whether there was rep on this forum or not - he would have still submitted that review - and it would be nice to give him rep for it - and again - if I just said "great thread" after his post - only those that saw that particular thread would know that I ever said anything.

So now I hope you see how it is used in a positive, constructive way.

Another perspective with rep.....
After hearing this, let's say Tyler got a wild hair and decided to add rep - and some of you were opposed - you could simply disable your rep for others to see. This would allow others to give you rep, but nobody else could see if you had, or did not have any rep.

Bottom line.

I am not promoting rep. I am not endorsing it. I am not pushing for this forum to have rep.

The only started this thread to inquire on why rep was not an option on this forum.

Whether rep is here or not, I will stay here - and I'm sure not having rep is not going to make anyone decide not to stay... I just see some benefits of the tool, and was curious why it was not being used here.

Stay sly!

BB
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: D.A.L.U.I. on May 08, 2008, 03:08:48 PM
  I thought about adding reputation when I first started the boards and I found mixed emotions on it from several forum owners. 
:/O :/O :/O For those of the Sly Guys who aren't IT types, would someone please explain what you're talking about, in very plain English?  I'm having flash backs to the Manual's that came w/ the first VCR's :D :D :D :D.
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: baldbiker on May 08, 2008, 03:16:34 PM
  I thought about adding reputation when I first started the boards and I found mixed emotions on it from several forum owners. 
:/O :/O :/O For those of the Sly Guys who aren't IT types, would someone please explain what you're talking about, in very plain English?  I'm having flash backs to the Manual's that came w/ the first VCR's :D :D :D :D.


I can almost see myself looking at one of those manuals wondering how the hell you hook the cords up!!!!

Please see my post above yours, if it doesn't help, I apologize - I tried to make it understandable, but it's like describing a foot to someone who has never seen one.....

Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: jusbnme on May 08, 2008, 03:19:29 PM
Man.  I clicked on this thread and half way through my head is spinning.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: BALDANDRE on May 08, 2008, 03:34:45 PM
First bro thanks for the props! O0

Very nice to say that and I appreciate it!

You have a great enthusiasm and are a good fit for this board, so don't take everyone's hesitation to "new" as against you...most (we) feel this is a very well run, organized board and I think we like to protect it...like a fierce mama and her cubs...so know that's where most of our bald brothers are coming from...

You explained it well and thanks for taking the time to do that..maybe it'll happen one day..

if not just hang out , post and enjoy yourself bro! O0
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: baldbiker on May 08, 2008, 03:58:12 PM
like a fierce mama and her cubs

I noticed! lol.

I have only been part of this forum for about a week - and I can say that this group of people that are part of this forum are like no place else! So - if rep was an option - I'd be giving the love to LOTS of you!!!  This is part of the reason that I wondered why this feature was not an option is because I would be using it like crazy.

Like I said before - whether we have it or not is really insignificant - I am just glad to be part of what you all have here.
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: Marz on May 08, 2008, 04:04:45 PM
I think its a great idea Biker, but in my experience these things get abused tremendously as the site grows beyond where everyone kinda knows everyone (like we have here).

I run a pretty large forum (mainly through my work as in my line of business I am some sort of Guru / O.G.) but because there are so many members and they are mostly males between the ages of 12 - 30 we see all sorts of issues arise due to post count, trader ratings, join dates, etc. there is a constant battle for who is most elite (or l33t) and people become obsessed with it. sometimes it seems they are more concerned with their stats as a use than the actual board topics etc. So these ratings end up being a symbol of who has spent more time "upping " their stats and not who is really the most knowledgeable or helpful.

I am just saying thats my experience with the whole thing.



Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: Timmay on May 08, 2008, 09:32:47 PM
It doesnt matter to me either way really.  But I will add that by having reps, what would be the use?  So you want to congratulate someone on a comment or post so others can see you did a good deed in telling that person how great of a person he is?  Well in my book we are all equal in here and we all get along.  By having reps one will see well this person is getting more reps than me....or well why did he get that rep because I have said that before....to me it would divide some people in a strange way.  Like I said before...if it aint broke...why fix it.  We all have each others back in here, im happy, everyone is happy...so?? 
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: baldbiker on May 08, 2008, 09:47:37 PM
It doesnt matter to me either way really.  But I will add that by having reps, what would be the use?  So you want to congratulate someone on a comment or post so others can see you did a good deed in telling that person how great of a person he is?  Well in my book we are all equal in here and we all get along.  By having reps one will see well this person is getting more reps than me....or well why did he get that rep because I have said that before....to me it would divide some people in a strange way.  Like I said before...if it aint broke...why fix it.  We all have each others back in here, im happy, everyone is happy...so?? 

If I gave you rep - nobody but YOU could see that I gave it to you.

It's just like a high five or a pat on the back.. Its not a necessity, but just a fun perk.

So does this site NEED it? No.. but, I really don't see how it could possibly be construed as a BAD thing to a forum of adults - who all get along so well to begin with...

Do you NEED an avatar - no, but it's cool to have one.. same as your member number, it's not needed, but cool because it's there.

Rep would be the same way - something that very few payed actual attention to, just something to toy with while searching the threads.

Please understand I'm not "pitching" the rep thing, just trying to clarify what it is - and the stance that it was brought to the table.  ;)

Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: Timmay on May 08, 2008, 09:48:31 PM
So drop it then.......simple as that
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: jusbnme on May 08, 2008, 10:03:02 PM
Let's not let this topic get out of hand fellas.  I've seen first hand, and unfortunately have been involved in, how something so innocent can turn nasty.  Tim bro...you know we love you to death man but I think baldbiker had dropped it.  You sorta lit the fire again.  Don't take offense bro.  I'm just trying to ease the tension I can see building.

baldbiker, thanks for joining bro.  You seem like you are a very positive person with a lot to offer this site.  Like others have said before, we are all like family here and when something new is thrown out there you are going to get some different reactions to it.  Since everything has always gone well here without the "rep" thing of course you're going to get some of the old school guys around here knocking it.  I'm sure you understand this from the comments I've read from you.  That's why I think you fit right in here.  Because you can take criticism without getting an immature attitude about it.  So if this topic keeps going and going please don't let it discourage you away from this site.  It's good to have new ideas thrown out there from time to time.  That's what keeps things interesting.  Some may work better on some forums than others.  Again, welcome to the family.   O0
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: Timmay on May 08, 2008, 10:05:40 PM
my apologies... :-X
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: JDog on May 08, 2008, 10:07:50 PM
I for one dont see a need for it(Reputation) but BaldBiker, your post that explained it did answer a lot of questions I had about it so thanks for it.

BaldAndre is a BBC icon and 14 year long headshaver, he was amongst the first to welcome me on another headshaving forum that we used to both be members of.

Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: WannaBePadre on May 08, 2008, 10:19:22 PM
TimmJ ... did you ever get to the buffet? I'm sorta hungry after reading all of this :-)
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: Timmay on May 08, 2008, 10:21:29 PM
No but I am sitting down right now eating a bowl of neapolitan icecream....at yes.....12:30 am
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: baldbiker on May 08, 2008, 10:57:30 PM
Icecream good :D

Love the forum, love everyone I've met so far.

I work in a HECTIC environment - with a high pace - better have a comeback type business.... so no, not a big deal at all for me to get negative feedback. In fact - I'm used to it ;D (makes me feel at home.)

I like this forum the way it is now, just had a suggestion.. either way - the people on this forum ROCK - and thats why I'm here!!

SO - even without rep I have no problem telling all of you how much I appreciate your imput, advice, antics  :*)), and company - so REPS to all of you!

BB

 
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: warhawk on May 08, 2008, 11:01:59 PM
baldbiker:  good 2 see that U got thick skin & didn't take the constructive criticism personally.  i'm glad that U love this forum.  it's definitely the best forum on the internet. O0

WARHAWK O0
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: baldbiker on May 08, 2008, 11:12:34 PM
I hate to jack my own thread here and take it off topic, but I gotta know - where did you come up with your name warhawk??
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: Timmay on May 08, 2008, 11:15:35 PM
YOu really dont want to know the answer to that question baldbiker.....and its not something from MASH either....lol
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: nomad on May 08, 2008, 11:18:04 PM
I hate to jack my own thread here and take it off topic, but I gotta know - where did you come up with your name warhawk??

Ya know bald biker I was wondering the same thing. My name here is pretty much self explanitory after reading some of my posts but I have wondered at times about Warhawks.
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: warhawk on May 08, 2008, 11:23:08 PM
I hate to jack my own thread here and take it off topic, but I gotta know - where did you come up with your name warhawk??

Ya know bald biker I was wondering the same thing. My name here is pretty much self explanitory after reading some of my posts but I have wondered at times about Warhawks.
OK guys:  WARHAWK is the mascot of my high school the i graduated from in illinois.  U don't find too many high schools or colleges that have a "warhawk" as their mascot. O0

WARHAWK O0
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: baldbiker on May 08, 2008, 11:24:48 PM
I hate to jack my own thread here and take it off topic, but I gotta know - where did you come up with your name warhawk??

Ya know bald biker I was wondering the same thing. My name here is pretty much self explanitory after reading some of my posts but I have wondered at times about Warhawks.
OK guys:  WARHAWK is the mascot of my high school the i graduated from in illinois.  U don't find too many high schools or colleges that have a "warhawk" as their mascot. O0

WARHAWK O0

Now all we need is a picture of this creature to fulfill our imaginations!
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: warhawk on May 08, 2008, 11:29:24 PM
I hate to jack my own thread here and take it off topic, but I gotta know - where did you come up with your name warhawk??

Ya know bald biker I was wondering the same thing. My name here is pretty much self explanitory after reading some of my posts but I have wondered at times about Warhawks.
OK guys:  WARHAWK is the mascot of my high school the i graduated from in illinois.  U don't find too many high schools or colleges that have a "warhawk" as their mascot. O0

WARHAWK O0

Now all we need is a picture of this creature to fulfill our imaginations!
can't help ya there... just picture a very majestic-looking hawk! O0

WARHAWK O0
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: Timmay on May 09, 2008, 08:59:21 AM
here ya go...gezzzz...do I gotta do everything around here.....

(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi255.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh157%2FTimmj%2Fwarhawk.jpg&hash=32e953861dde35e631e0746b681acca3bedb951b)
Title: Re: Editing posts, and reputation.
Post by: tomgallagher on May 09, 2008, 09:09:01 AM
O geez, and all this time I thought he was a Native American big shot.