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Various Non-Bald Discussions => Sports Talk => Topic started by: ar3inc on December 21, 2006, 11:57:44 AM
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Okay there are some good MMA events seeking up behind some of the holidays. What are some guesses for the outcomes? Pick the fighter you think is going to win, the one know, like, recognize or sounds meaner.
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I agree that Ortiz is a punk....and I like what Liddel said that it will "give [him] a chance to shut [Ortiz] up"
But Ortiz is freakin' tuff and REALLY wants the title back......I have to go with Ortiz. Sorry, AR3
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Dude that is your opinion and rock on with it, Rob. However I would like to point that Tito didn’t look so tuff last time when Liddel made him curl into the fetal position. ;)
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The bottom line is, it's mma and anything can happen. I just want to see what is the pulse of the group for UFC fighters.
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Chuck did it! He shut down the "bad boy." Took a good three rounds to do so.
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Chuck did it! He shut down the "bad boy." Took a good three rounds to do so.
Just got back from watching the fight at MississippiRed's place. It was a good fight. Ortiz shouldn't have gotten on his back after getting knocked down.
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The "Iceman" is my favorite fighter in the UFC. Liddell controlled the style and tempo of the fight the whole way other than twice when Ortiz actually bothered to attack.
Chuck Liddell rules/is a badass, bottom line. Ortiz was lucky the fight didn't end in round one. Round two was boring, and round 3 was the knockout.
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Way to go, Chucky baby!!
I thought Ortiz might pull this one out....oh well
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I think Tito did good considering. He no doubt is one of the best out there, and is getting better better, but he's no where being ready for Chuck- and that was proved,lol. I will say that I didn't agree with the ref stopping the fight like he did though. Chuck had him down, but Tito's defense was strong. Look at the replays closely and you see Tito is blocking the jist of the ground and pound hits, and the ones that do connect are only grazing him. Just when the ref was about to call it though, you see Tito start to roll over in an effort to get up.
It should have gone to the fourth. It should have and would have been ended with a knockout. What a shame...
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Speaking of UFC, I saw some tape of a new heavyweight Mirko Cro Cop Flipovic, who is coming to the company in february I think. Dude is sick, especially his leg kick.
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Speaking of UFC, I saw some tape of a new heavyweight Mirko Cro Cop Flipovic, who is coming to the company in february I think. Dude is sick, especially his leg kick.
Yeah, he his!! Same with Rampage. Those two are going to be great additions to UFC. Plus, Rampage has beaten Liddel before. Did you see the looks they gave each other last night?
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Speaking of UFC, I saw some tape of a new heavyweight Mirko Cro Cop Flipovic, who is coming to the company in february I think. Dude is sick, especially his leg kick.
Yeah, he his!! Same with Rampage. Those two are going to be great additions to UFC. Plus, Rampage has beaten Liddel before. Did you see the looks they gave each other last night?
Yeah, they showed Jackson ringside all the time. It shouldn't take long if he is that good for them to get a rematch.
Btw, the only thing that impressed me about Ortiz was the fact he got out of round 1 alive. Otherwise, outside of a brief takedown and a combo by ortiz following a liddell combo, he was basically walking around the ring doing nothing. It almost seemed like he really didn't feel like he belonged in the octagon with Liddell, despite his comments of fighting his best fight afterwards. Chuck controlled that fight at every turn.
And as far as forrest griffin, there's no crying in fighting dude. I love the passion, but control yourself my man.
This was the 1st ppv UFC I got to see. My sister/her boyfriend are really into it, so I started watching it a little the last couple years. I like the ultimate fighter show, and they called and asked if i'd like to see tonight's PPV. I said sure, and he bought it and we watched it on our brand new 62'' TV. Too bad spike TV wasn't HD. We got that installed the day before.
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I will say that I didn't agree with the ref stopping the fight like he did though. Chuck had him down, but Tito's defense was strong. Look at the replays closely and you see Tito is blocking the jist of the ground and pound hits, and the ones that do connect are only grazing him. Just when the ref was about to call it though, you see Tito start to roll over in an effort to get up.
That is one of the things that drives me nuts about the fights is the refs don't always display consistency when stopping the fight. These fights are prefect examples.
I don’t remember who is the ref for Chuck and Tito, but I remember Herb was for Andrei and Cruz. Man, Andrei delivered several blows to Cruz that I felt shouldn’ve been needed. When you watch the replay, Cruz is just laying there (I think completely out) and Andrei give six punches before Herb steps in to stop it.
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I was fine with the Tito stoppage. He didn't have a problem with it either in the post fight. I'm sure Chuck's punches (even while covering up) feel like getting hit with a sledge hammer.
The Arlovski/Cruz reffing was pretty awful. Hate seeing that at a fighter's expense. Although I hear Cruz is quite an a-hole so, I don't feel too bad for the guy.
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I agree. I think while it hurts the entertainment of the sport it's best for the refs to stop early then go long. Protect the fighter.
Welcome to the group, Hair-Refugee!
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This was on myspace, thanks to Jeff! :) Thought that some peps here might find it interesting.
*This is a repost from mmafanatics.com official myspace page.*
The Nevada State Athletic Commission has released their official list of medical suspensions from UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz II.
- Chuck Liddell is suspended until June 30th (or until receiving doctor’s approval) due to a knee and hand injury.
- Tito Ortiz is suspended until March 2nd.
- Forrest Griffin is suspended until January 31st.
- Marcio Cruz is suspended until January 31st.
- Eric Schafer is suspended until March 2nd due to a lip laceration.
- Tony De Souza is suspended until March 2nd.
- Rory Singer is suspended until June 30th (or until receiving doctor’s approval) due to a right elbow injury.
- Christian Wellisch is suspended until January 31st.
- Anthony Perosh is suspended until March 2nd.
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whoa!
Ya don't hear that side of things much.
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Yeah, the suspensions are imposed by the Athletic Commission mainly to keep fighters who have been knocked out from sustaining further damage by fighting again too soon. This is also the case in boxing. It's a really good thing to do for the protection of the athletes.
I'm going to chime in with an opinion about the Chuck/Tito rematch. I think the ending of this fight demonstrated the need to get rid of the cage. I have no argument with the timing of the stoppage under UFC rules. I do however think that Tito was absolutely capable of continuing. He was covering up and Chucks punches were landing on his arms and shoulders. He was just up against the cage and couldn't maneuver to change positions. If that fight had been in a ring (as in Pride) they could have stopped the action, moved the fight to the center of the ring and restarted in the same position. Chuck may have stopped the fight just the same but Tito would have had an opportunity to try to scramble for better position. I think that would be better for the fighters and ultimately for the fans as well. Trying to watch a fight through chain link fence is difficult in person.
Rampage's entry into the UFC will be interesting. My only concern about him fighting Chuck is the fact that Rampage has been brutally knocked out twice since the first time they fought (Wanderlei Silva twice and Mauricio Rua) while Chuck has taken relatively little damage. Getting knocked out sometimes damages a fighter and Rampage isn't as aggressive as he once was.
Mirko should rule the UFC heavyweight division for as long as he wants to. He has been caught and stopped before (Kevin Randleman) but his striking is far superior to what the UFC currently has to offer and his ground game is pretty good and he takedown defence is excellent.
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Funny you talk about the cage vs ring like Pride. I see advantages for the cage, as well as some disadvantages (like mentioned). My view is if there is going to be a some thing that will dictate the space of a fight it either should be something that the fighters could use in the fight, like the cage or nothing like a line on the canvas.