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Discussions About Being Bald => Tattoos and Piercings => Topic started by: Tucker-54 on January 27, 2008, 08:49:46 PM
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hey, so I'm seventeen right now, and at the end of the year, I think i want a tattoo ::)......If you've seen "Reign Of Fire", that dragon movie with Matthew Mchonnahey ,or whatever, he has a really sweet dragon tattoo that goes around his arm, shoulder, and entire body, I just want it on my arm, shoulder, then out on my chest. I've been thinking about it for a really long time.....
Here's a site that shows them,
http://www.bellaonline.us/~bodyart/movie/reign_fire/index.html
Remember, i just want a small one, black and gray, upperarm, shoulder, and peck.......I'm just wondering what you guys think, and if anyone is an expert, how much it might cost at a pretty high end shop (I want to go somewhere with a lot of good credit, like high voltage in LA "LA Ink", or somewhere in SoCal....Any Suggestions?)
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hey, so I'm seventeen right now, and at the end of the year, I think i want a tattoo ::)......If you've seen "Reign Of Fire", that dragon movie with Matthew Mchonnahey ,or whatever, he has a really sweet dragon tattoo that goes around his arm, shoulder, and entire body, I just want it on my arm, shoulder, then out on my chest. I've been thinking about it for a really long time.....
Here's a site that shows them,
http://www.bellaonline.us/~bodyart/movie/reign_fire/index.html
Remember, i just want a small one, black and gray, upperarm, shoulder, and peck.......I'm just wondering what you guys think, and if anyone is an expert, how much it might cost at a pretty high end shop (I want to go somewhere with a lot of good credit, like high voltage in LA "LA Ink", or somewhere in SoCal....Any Suggestions?)
I would say in the mid to high hundreds at most. Because that design is fairly clean, no shading, large shades. You might have to pay a little extra because it will have to be custom drawn, but who would want something everyone else has right? It depends on the artist and the cost of living around the shop, other things come into play, but scope out the best tat shops, see some of their work for yourself [ dont just look at their portfolios as these can be misleading as most of them only have freshly inked tat pics, not healed pics] Well that was a scramble of info anyway...
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Nice tatty to want bro...
very clean and bold...
Good luck it'll go great with your skinned melon! O0
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so, you're saying like $500? i kind of just want a ballpark estimate.......also, do tattoo shops ever do like financing, or is it pay up front kind of stuff??? i'm just wondering, cuz im going to need to save up and stuff
Thanks for the replies guys! O0
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You have to pay as you go my man. Save your pennies. I would agree the mid hundreds. $400 - $600 BUT, yo can take your design to different places because not two artists are going to charge the same thing.
Also, money talks. I had one guy tell me the cross on my right arm was going to be $175, but if I paid cash he would do it for $100. Cash is not exactly reportable to the IRS.
Also, if you go somewhere like LA Ink or something like that you are going to pay probably twice what a good local artist will charge. My advice would be to find a good local artist that does good work and has a good reputation. Talk to your friends that have tatts and TAKE YOUR TIME when choosing someone to do it. It is permanent by the way. I have a friend that does tatts and most of his business is fixing other artists crap.
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Price will depend on the shop. No financing... it's pay as you go. A custom tattoo like that will be charged by the hour. Rates at a good shop can range from about $125 per hour to over $200 per hour (maybe more in California).
Go online and look up shops that you may be interested in. Check with past clients if possible. Go to the shop and look around. Look in the corners of the floors and ceilings for dirt, dust bunnies, spider webs. If the place is dirty go somewhere else. Ask to see the up to date certificate for the autoclave (sterilization machine). Good shops will usually have it displayed. Talk to the artist that will actuall do YOUR tattoo. Make sure you are comfortable with them and have a good vibe going.
Never choose an artist based solely on price....... you may get what you pay for.
Choose something you will still love in twenty or so years...... it's forever.
Mike
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The shop I go to is high end custom work and the standard rate there is $150/hour. If you do a big piece like you're talking about they usually give you a discount. My last tat took 10 hours and I paid $100/hour. The design you are looking isn't very complex ... I would think approx $600 would be a good estimate ... but it all depends on where you go and how good of an artist you want.
Good luck O0
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X-man, long time no see. Too comfy in that leather chair to get to the computer and post?
All you guys are right in some way. But you missed a very important factor when it comes to getting a tattoo, that's being familiar with his/her work.
Try to see the work up close and in the flesh!
You don't want to pay big bucks or any money for that matter for inferior work.
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X-man, long time no see. Too comfy in that leather chair to get to the computer and post?
All you guys are right in some way. But you missed a very important factor when it comes to getting a tattoo, that's being familiar with his/her work.
Try to see the work up close and in the flesh!
You don't want to pay big bucks or any money for that matter for inferior work.
Hey BaldBen. Touché ...
I have been buried at work and had to put my forum activities on hold for a couple months. Hopefully, the worst is over and I can resume my forum reading and posting. ;D
As for your comment on knowing your artist, I cannot agree more. Nothing is worse that walking off the street and getting some random artist to ink you for life. I always pick my artist out and make an appointment (the good artists rarely do walk-ins in my experience).
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Hey BaldBen. Touché ...
I have been buried at work and had to put my forum activities on hold for a couple months. Hopefully, the worst is over and I can resume my forum reading and posting. ;D
Nice to see your bald mug again X! O0
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(the good artists rarely do walk-ins in my experience).
This is a very important point..... so much so that my artist ($125 per hour) made this exact point to me. her logic was this... If they don't have people on a waiting list for a tattoo would you really want them inking you? If they can do a walk in they most likely are not good because they have no clientel.
Mike 8)
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As the others have said a good tattoo artist will charge 100-200 per hour.
Depending on the complexity and size it can take 10+ hours for a big piece but it is rarely done in one sitting.
I had to go for a series of 2-3 hour appointments (one every month or 3 weeks). Your work has to heal between appointments so its not like you walk in with 800 bucks and walk out with a big tatt.
What I would advise is;
1. Find an artist. Ask people that have nice tatt work where they go or surf the net for recomendations. Make an appointment for a consultation and talk to the guy and see samples etc.
2. save up enough for your initial appointment (the outline).
3. Schedule the next appointment as you leave and know that wou will need X ammount of cash before that time.
Getting a big piece dont is a commitment of time and money so be sure you are prepared to take this on.
If you are looking for a good artist in the LA area, I know of a guy that is very good. I interviewed him as a follow up to an article I wrote. He has traveled the world studying tattoing and has done all kinds of celebs (Montel Williams, Christina Agulara, Deborah Wilson from Mad TV). His name is Zulu and is easily as good as anyone on L.A. Ink.
He can be found here - http://www.zulutattoo.com/
His partner Lantz is very good as well.
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Hey BaldBen. Touché ...
I have been buried at work and had to put my forum activities on hold for a couple months. Hopefully, the worst is over and I can resume my forum reading and posting. ;D
Nice to see your bald mug again X! O0
Thanks man. Glad to be back O0
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As the others have said a good tattoo artist will charge 100-200 per hour.
Depending on the complexity and size it can take 10+ hours for a big piece but it is rarely done in one sitting.
I had to go for a series of 2-3 hour appointments (one every month or 3 weeks). Your work has to heal between appointments so its not like you walk in with 800 bucks and walk out with a big tatt.
What I would advise is;
1. Find an artist. Ask people that have nice tatt work where they go or surf the net for recomendations. Make an appointment for a consultation and talk to the guy and see samples etc.
2. save up enough for your initial appointment (the outline).
3. Schedule the next appointment as you leave and know that wou will need X ammount of cash before that time.
Getting a big piece dont is a commitment of time and money so be sure you are prepared to take this on.
If you are looking for a good artist in the LA area, I know of a guy that is very good. I interviewed him as a follow up to an article I wrote. He has traveled the world studying tattoing and has done all kinds of celebs (Montel Williams, Christina Agulara, Deborah Wilson from Mad TV). His name is Zulu and is easily as good as anyone on L.A. Ink.
He can be found here - http://www.zulutattoo.com/
His partner Lantz is very good as well.
All good points. I also have a 10+ hour piece and it was done over 3 sittings as well. The only exception are large backpieces where the art covers large areas of the body. You could go 8-10 hours on something like that if the body area is big enough to warrant it. The one this guy seems to be going for doesn't look too intricate and looks somewhat tribal-like and large. That may be able to be done in one long sitting... Depends a lot on the artist really.
Speaking of LA, my tattoo artist is setting up shop in LA this summer, so I've got to find me a new one since I don't plan to travel cross country ever time I want a session. :'(
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Thanks soooo much guys, it really helps to have my chrome dome friends giving support, and im glad you like my idea......but you guys keep saying a BIG piece, all im wanting is on the arm and out on the chest, on one side......is that considered big???? If you have any suggestions for artists on the west coast, give em to me, cuz some of my friends just did walkins for their tats, and they came out like crap.....also, i have a teacher that is in a punk band, and is fully tatted where people can't see (to remain professional), i think I'll ask him.....I'll look up this Zulu guy as well, Thanks!
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Tucker-54, also keep in mind with tattoos. Color does not cost any more than Black/Grey shading. Artists will charge by the hour most of the time. A few will charge by the piece.
A good tattoo is never cheap but a cheap tattoo is almost never good.
Always steer clear of shops that offer 2 for 1 tattoos. This screams "We are desperate for work and are willing to sacrifice artistic integrity to get people in the door"
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Tucker-54, also keep in mind with tattoos. Color does not cost any more than Black/Grey shading. Artists will charge by the hour most of the time. A few will charge by the piece.
A good tattoo is never cheap but a cheap tattoo is almost never good.
Always steer clear of shops that offer 2 for 1 tattoos. This screams "We are desperate for work and are willing to sacrifice artistic integrity to get people in the door"
Excellent points JDog
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I agree, a good artist is worth every penny.
One thing is to try to go to someone that has a good reputation, poor artists dont stay around too long and good ones are usually booked out for about a month. I had a hell of a time finding an artist that was not only good but wasn't a flake. I met a couple that had done brilliant work but flaked out... one, I went to 2 appointments, consulted, gave him the art, came back to see it drawn up... flaked... came back again.... he didn remember to bring it... it takes awhile to sift through the BS o tattoo artists (although Zulu is top notch, prob. among the top 10 in the LA area).
Remember, a good tattoo is something to be proud of, a bad tattoo is something to be ashamed of.
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so, you're saying like $500? i kind of just want a ballpark estimate.......also, do tattoo shops ever do like financing, or is it pay up front kind of stuff??? i'm just wondering, cuz im going to need to save up and stuff
Thanks for the replies guys! O0
Cash usually, though some of them will have debit machines. I can't think of ANY that do financing, there would be too much risk in that.
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A good tattoo is never cheap but a cheap tattoo is almost never good.
Didn't Socrates say that?
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A good tattoo is never cheap but a cheap tattoo is almost never good.
Didn't Socrates say that?
Actually I believe it was Aristotle
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A good tattoo is never cheap but a cheap tattoo is almost never good.
Didn't Socrates say that?
It was Plato.
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WELL... as far as financing, if you defaulted on payments, would you REALLY want to deal with someone REPOSSESING their work ? OUCH! you may find an upper end shop that sells gift certificates that you could buy antil you have enuff to get your ink , or they may even just put your ink job in "LAYAWAY"till you grt it paid for , but on the other question "is it BIG?" anything bigger than a $bill square is considerd med to large, and MOST places a color piece WILL BE more expensive than just a black piece due to slightly extra work n extra cups and such . if you dont believe me ask your artist for a black price AND a color price . I would guess 10/15 % higher. IF youve never been inked b4, your artist MAY ask for a test to see how well your body deals with tattoo ink and how well it is going to hold. some people are color sensitive to certain colors, I dont hold white/yellow very well , it leaches out quick. no sense in me even GETTING white , cuz itll be gone in 2 weeks BUT... everybody is different. if you are going to get ink that will be exposed to the sun often then wait till the fall to get it so it will be covered for a while because during the initail healimg and up to about 6 months sun will bleach the ink right back out, so MAKE SURE it has a chance to "set" well specially if youre a swimmer , cholorine LOVES new ink !
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I get my ink done in winter or fall because I have a pool at the house and I am sun whore. That gives it a few months to set good.
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Also worth mentioning that sun will fade a tattoo even if it is set and healed (it may take much longer - as in years - but I plan to be around for years so ...). Personally I always put sun block on my tats as a few hours in the sun isn't worth damaging the tattoos.
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Also worth mentioning that sun will fade a tattoo even if it is set and healed (it may take much longer - as in years - but I plan to be around for years so ...). Personally I always put sun block on my tats as a few hours in the sun isn't worth damaging the tattoos.
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That is excellent advise. One thing my artist stressed was to keep sunblock on the tattoo whenever I was in the sun.....
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Also worth mentioning that sun will fade a tattoo even if it is set and healed (it may take much longer - as in years - but I plan to be around for years so ...). Personally I always put sun block on my tats as a few hours in the sun isn't worth damaging the tattoos.
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That is excellent advise. One thing my artist stressed was to keep sunblock on the tattoo whenever I was in the sun.....
I had a buddy who did not heed that advice. He has a great tat that faded and is now in desperate need of touch up.
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I slather all my ink in 30SPF and will reapply every few hours.
There is a girl here at work who got a flower tattoo last year and went to the beach 2 weeks later and the tattoo burned severley now it looks like a big ink blob, you cant even tell what it is. Stupidity.
Porky, Re: Color vs. Black pieces, all the artists and shops that I have dealt with charge BY THE HOUR. So regardless of wether you have color or black shading it all takes time so therefore doesnt cost over the other. Some shops may be different and charge by the piece but it is rare.
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Shops I have found that charge by the piece usually do so with a piece of flash from the wall that they are very familure with.
I have a skull that I picked out off a wall and it was 30 bucks, dude did the tatt in about 6 mins.
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Tucker-54, also keep in mind with tattoos. Color does not cost any more than Black/Grey shading. Artists will charge by the hour most of the time. A few will charge by the piece.
A good tattoo is never cheap but a cheap tattoo is almost never good.
Always steer clear of shops that offer 2 for 1 tattoos. This screams "We are desperate for work and are willing to sacrifice artistic integrity to get people in the door"
Here some shops have a base rate and add per hour. Some shops will just eye the piece and put a set price on it [like the one I go to] Some will go by square inch, some just go by hour. The pricing is as diverse as the abilities of the artists.
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Tucker-54, also keep in mind with tattoos. Color does not cost any more than Black/Grey shading. Artists will charge by the hour most of the time. A few will charge by the piece.
A good tattoo is never cheap but a cheap tattoo is almost never good.
Always steer clear of shops that offer 2 for 1 tattoos. This screams "We are desperate for work and are willing to sacrifice artistic integrity to get people in the door"
Here some shops have a base rate and add per hour. Some shops will just eye the piece and put a set price on it [like the one I go to] Some will go by square inch, some just go by hour. The pricing is as diverse as the abilities of the artists.
Shadow I agree with you.
However large pieces are usually a per hour rate. My most recent on my left upper arm was 12 hours and ran me a total cost of about 1400 bucks.
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Tucker,
Have you shared what you wanted with family and friends? Just curious what their feedback is on your tat.
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hey, so I'm seventeen right now, and at the end of the year, I think i want a tattoo ::)......If you've seen "Reign Of Fire", that dragon movie with Matthew Mchonnahey ,or whatever, he has a really sweet dragon tattoo that goes around his arm, shoulder, and entire body, I just want it on my arm, shoulder, then out on my chest. I've been thinking about it for a really long time.....
Here's a site that shows them,
http://www.bellaonline.us/~bodyart/movie/reign_fire/index.html
Remember, i just want a small one, black and gray, upperarm, shoulder, and peck.......I'm just wondering what you guys think, and if anyone is an expert, how much it might cost at a pretty high end shop (I want to go somewhere with a lot of good credit, like high voltage in LA "LA Ink", or somewhere in SoCal....Any Suggestions?)
That wil be awesome man! It might be really expencive, so tell your fam thats what you want for a birthday present!
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one of mine took 3 hours costed $250