Sly Bald Guys Forum
Confidence and Success => Business/Work => Topic started by: Tagus on September 22, 2007, 01:27:58 PM
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Today i i´ve gone to speak with my boss department to see if i could shave my head to a zero and i asked because i work in a airport where there´s a lot of contact with the public and the company rules states that shaved heads aren´t allowed.
She said for her it wouldn´t be a problem but for the major boss of the company it would.
I´m thinking of going up there and speak with them about my issue, because i´m shaving my head due to genetic conditions and not because i want to be a skinhead but i remember a guy who showed up for work with a zero (he has the horshoe pattern) and none of the bosses wanted him like that even because he was bald, so i guess my chances are nill.
Anyway i´m going to risk it someday (hey i´m still getting balls to shave it hehe) and things wont look good for me in the company.
Would you risk it or not?
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fabio.. I'm lost here.. how can that be..........
To my knowledge it's called discrimination. I would deff look into it legally.
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I have never heard of a policy like this but my opinion is: whether they will allow it or not is a mute point. If you like the job and you want to make a good impression I would not do it. It sounds like they don't want a skinned head (right or wrong) and you trying to get away w/ a zero blade cut is just a technicality. If you don't plan on working for this company long term then go for it.
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well let me say for me........... I work for one of the largest telecomunication company in canada..... also an affilate from the US of A.........Primus Canada.......and discrimination is something that every company should be worried about. either be skin color, religious background, and yes even a hair cut.........
you should not ask for permission to die your hair, cut your hair, shave your head.
when I first shaved my head .. they where LIKE WTF Dan..what's your problem..........
ME I asked....................... I have no problem. why .. Well why did you shave ur head. well to be honest I don't need to answer that.......... Me is me........ it doesn't interfere with my duty's.
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Religion, skin color, are protected classes and you cannot discriminate. Hair length is not a protected class. For the same reason you don't see any fat girls working at Hooters, I am not trying to be mean, I am just saying that companies have a right to hire who they want as long as it is not a protected class. For ex. some companies won't let tattoos, piercings be visible and that is their right. Same with long hair, some companies have policies on that as well as facial hair.
Disclaimer: I am not an attorney or legal advisor nor do i play one on TV.
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ugabulldog, my company doesn´t permit visible tatoos and piercings also.
They want a clean and enjoyable image, but with so many shaved heads out there this days that aren´t nazis, i don´t see the problem in that.
Where i work we don´t have to be agressive to the passengers even with hair, it´s talking and interacting with passengers that our personality shows up. It´s not that passengers wont talk with someone because he´s skinhead.
As far as the job goes i don´t want to stay there forever, as i´m still taking a degree in university and next month if things go well i will join the company permanently after two and a half years of temporary contracts.
I always had positive evaluations in my work and the last one even exceeded expectations.
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Religion, skin color, are protected classes and you cannot discriminate. Hair length is not a protected class. For the same reason you don't see any fat girls working at Hooters, I am not trying to be mean, I am just saying that companies have a right to hire who they want as long as it is not a protected class. For ex. some companies won't let tattoos, piercings be visible and that is their right. Same with long hair, some companies have policies on that as well as facial hair.
Disclaimer: I am not an attorney or legal advisor nor do i play one on TV.
You make a good point on that one.. especially the hooters one........
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Religion, skin color, are protected classes and you cannot discriminate. Hair length is not a protected class. For the same reason you don't see any fat girls working at Hooters, I am not trying to be mean, I am just saying that companies have a right to hire who they want as long as it is not a protected class. For ex. some companies won't let tattoos, piercings be visible and that is their right. Same with long hair, some companies have policies on that as well as facial hair.
Disclaimer: I am not an attorney or legal advisor nor do i play one on TV.
You make a good point on that one.. especially the hooters one........
Thanks Dany
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i would go to the highest boss i could find and get him drunk. hook him up with a very undesirable partner, and take pictures of it. show him the pictures and tell him that if you can shave your head, the pictures won't be shown. ok, maybe not. rules are rules bro. even the stupid ones about hair. hair length has nothing to do with performance. if anything, it would make you more productive. not having to check to see if your hair was in place or not. would probably save at least five minutes a day.
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Fabio, when you go talk to the big boss, make sure to indicate why it's best for them to allow you to shave your head. Suck that it will boost your confidence, thus enabling you to produce more and achieve better results.
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First of all check the dresscode for where you work. If it says nothing about hair, there isn't a thing they can do. And if they fired you or discriminated against you for shaving your head slap them with their own book. If the policy is vague, you should be able to argue it successfully and they cannot change their dresscode without first telling you. Goodluck!
If the reason for shaving your head is psychological such as it gives you confidence you may be able to get away with shaving in lieu of a no shaved dome policy. Especially with a written letter by a psychologist. I believe.
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Just be careful ... Good jobs are hard to come by
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First of all check the dresscode for where you work. If it says nothing about hair, there isn't a thing they can do.
They can make things extremely uncomfortable and difficult if they want to and there isn't much that can be done about it. If having a shaved head is that important, then it would probably be best to start looking for a new job now.
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HELL NO I WOULDNT LET THAT ASS DO THAT TO ME!
What the hell you gonna do if you suddenly just lost all of your hair? You gonna have to wear a "piece" on your head? EIther I would fight it..or if you think you can go else where...I would shave it ..go to work and let them fire you. Who would look like the ass?? Not you....Them...imagine all the people who will say they are WRONG!
Like today the lady I ran into at the grocery store....screw that sh*t..jsut say what you want...do what you want...hell with it
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i would go to the highest boss i could find and get him drunk. hook him up with a very undesirable partner, and take pictures of it. show him the pictures and tell him that if you can shave your head, the pictures won't be shown. ok, maybe not. rules are rules bro. even the stupid ones about hair. hair length has nothing to do with performance. if anything, it would make you more productive. not having to check to see if your hair was in place or not. would probably save at least five minutes a day.
Fabio, Paulies idea I believe would work very well..You should try it out and see if it works eh.
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A clear, concise, well thought out presentation to an employer can go a long way. Whatever you do, don;t go in coming off as though you are complaining, or even asking for permission. But rather, in sort of seeking clarification as in:
"I understand why our company dress code prevents certain kinds of physical appearances, like tattoos, piercings and long or unkept hair as a cleanliness issue. However, baldness being what it is in this day and age, and what with so many popular figures, including actors, athletes, politicians and military personal shaving their heads these days (provide examples), as an employee and a valued part of the company, I'd like to suggest that the company look at this particular part of the dress code and consider revision as this seems a bit discriminatory in our modern world. By saying that employees cannot shave their heads, our company could be seen as implying that baldness (a natural human state) is undesirable, unpleasant, unwanted and unacceptable. Thanks for listening to me, and discussing this topic with me."
Or something like that... anyway, like I said, don't complain, but certainly verbalize your thoughts and feelings. Mike it clear that you are simply interested and concerned. Explain your own point of view and listen to the reasons offered. A number of major corporations, especially older ones, wrote their employee materials a long time ago and they don't revise them until someone speaks up. Heck, you might be the one that changes this particular policy.
I never knew my employer would let me wear my black UtiliKilt to work, until I asked... and I work with th puublic every day. so, ya never know.
If it's approached respectfully, reasonably and openly, there's never anything wrong with privately questioning a companies policies.
Just my own 2 cents...
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shdwwlk the company´s dress code clearly states that no shaved heads are allowed but it doesn´t say to which guard.
There´s some folks where i work who have shaved heads, not to a zero but to a #1 and they look better than with hair so i think it´s a matter of looking good and clean but like i said above i think the company sees a zero shaved head too agressive and that can go against some passengers beliefs or thoughts, like thinking we are skinheads and that our country is nazi lol
Vash someday i will speak with my major boss to see if she agrees or not but as i do know her i don´t think she will agree. Anyway my confidence is more important and i really wouldn´t feel comfortable with that horseshoe pattern speaking with the public...i´m just 24 years old ffs.
My hair still covers my head but by the time i´m 26 or 27 years old i will be bald.
My life isn´t just work, i have something more outside of an airport and i would be more comfortable if i get used to having a shaved head now than waiting for the hair to fall out.
What i´m affraid of is going against the decision of my boss and still shave it and that IS GOING TO HAPPEN >:D
I hope the degree i´m taking can get me a good job though
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I guess I am lucky. I work for a medium sized company (6000 employees). Our company dress code only has a vague statement prohibiting "extreme hair styles".
I had a manager make a comment to me once, and I just replied, "Maybe you should ask Mr. X if he thinks it's 'extreme'." Mr. X is a senior vice president who has been sly since they hired him several years ago. Nothing more was ever said.
Another interesting thing is that I recently saw an article in a business magazine about one of the large shampoo companies. I forget whether it was Helene Curtis or Alberto Culver, but they had a picture of their president and CEO in the article, and he is SLY.
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Stuff like that .. thats EXACTLY why I work for myself. I'm tired of that crap!
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hey fabio!!!
shaved your head!!!
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Vash: after seeing your earrings, I'm getting my re-pierced. LOL
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so does this company allow naturally bald people, or do they just discriminate to the bbc crowd? :o
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I still haven´t shaved my head (or should i say hair :*)) ) because i still have lots of it and i´m still working in the same company.
I´ve changed my plans a little since i´m only a year from finishing my degree then i have more possibilities to change jobs and then finally shave the hair. :)
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well let me say for me........... I work for one of the largest telecomunication company in canada..... also an affilate from the US of A.........Primus Canada.......and discrimination is something that every company should be worried about. either be skin color, religious background, and yes even a hair cut.........
you should not ask for permission to die your hair, cut your hair, shave your head.
when I first shaved my head .. they where LIKE WTF Dan..what's your problem..........
ME I asked....................... I have no problem. why .. Well why did you shave ur head. well to be honest I don't need to answer that.......... Me is me........ it doesn't interfere with my duty's.
You Sir are one Bonafide Sly Guy, You have the correct ATTUTUDE
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I work in healthcare as a physician. Before going sly just a few weeks ago, I always had pretty short buzzed hair ~#1 or #2. Nobody was bothered.
When I went sly I was really anxious about going back to work, but the reaction has been amazingly positive, from both patients and fellow professionals alike. Just because my head now shines under the hospital lights, I am still the person I have always been. It makes absolutely no diffrerence. I am still perfectly capable at doing my job.
I hate hearing about company policies etc. So outdated and discriminatory. I would have a field day with any manager who tried to confront me about my choice of hairstyle.
Sorry to hear of your trouble.