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Title: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: Razor X on February 15, 2014, 02:38:59 PM
A few days ago I signed up for a free trial of Netflix.  Up to now I've used Amazon Prime for streaming video content through my Blu-ray player, but Netflix seems to have a much better selection -- things that are either not available at all on Amazon, as well as things that can only be viewed on Amazon for an additional rental fee.

The problem I'm having with Netflix is that the picture quality is far inferior to what I can get through Amazon.  I just watched an episode of House of Cards on Netflix and the download speed was an anemic 1.4 Mbps and the picture was standard definition at best.  On Amazon, I can stream in HD at 8.0 Mbps.  Clearly my internet setup is capable of delivering HD quality, so why can't I get it using Netflix?
Title: Re: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: reddog on February 15, 2014, 02:58:05 PM
I stream Netflix thru my bluray, and get a good picture, not sure of the speed.
Title: Re: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: djones on February 15, 2014, 05:05:54 PM
 I for years have used Netflix, stream it through ps3 with great picture quality, my wife just signed up for Amazon prime free trial it's the same quality as Netflix on my ps3 but I didn't really find much that interested me where on Netflix I'm always finding something.
Title: Re: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: Razor X on February 15, 2014, 06:31:01 PM
I called Netflix to ask about this.  They walked me through some troubleshooting steps that didn't help.  They really seemed to want to blame it on my ISP, or my WI-FI connection but Amazon Prime is coming through in HD quality just fine.
Title: Re: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: Mikekoz13 on February 15, 2014, 06:41:24 PM
You definetly have something going on. I've had Netflix for a year and we stream everyday. Sometime my kids are streaming while the wife and I stream in another room, and while someone is on the computer. We very rarely have issues.

You can try rebooting your player or even your wireless router. That might help.
Title: Re: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: Razor X on February 15, 2014, 07:00:16 PM

You can try rebooting your player or even your wireless router. That might help.

I tried both of those when I was on the phone with Netflix. I did a Google search and a lot of people seem to think that Comcast is deliberately slowing down the speed for Netflix.  I could believe it if problem happened across all streaming services but Amazon is coming through fine.  I don't think Comcast could single out Netflix but who knows?

The picture is watchable but it could and should be a lot better.
Title: Re: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: TheSlyBear on February 15, 2014, 11:12:24 PM
I don't think Comcast could single out Netflix but who knows?

/whistles-and-kicks-can
Title: Re: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: Razor X on February 15, 2014, 11:18:44 PM
I don't think Comcast could single out Netflix but who knows?

/whistles-and-kicks-can

It's not that I think that Comcast is staffed by choirboys, but if they were doing something to slow download speeds for video streaming, wouldn't that affect other providers (Amazon, Vudu) as well as Netflix?  Or is there something unique about the way Netflix content is delivered? 

When my free trial is over, I have to give some serious thought to whether I want to pay for something with such lousy picture quality.  When I was watching this afternoon it was standard def but watchable.  During prime time when the traffic was presumably heavier, it was like watching a bootleg copy of a DVD or VHS tape.
Title: Re: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: warhawk on February 16, 2014, 09:21:59 AM
@RazorX:  Hi Rob... I hope that Netflix can work out for you.  We have been fortunate to have great service from Netflix.  Keep us posted, my friend.

WARHAWK O0
Title: Re: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: TheSlyBear on February 16, 2014, 01:20:41 PM
but if they were doing something to slow download speeds for video streaming, wouldn't that affect other providers (Amazon, Vudu) as well as Netflix?
As a threat, Netflix is unique. Amazon, Vudu, and the others are just blips on the radar so far.

I'm not saying I have any insider knowledge, but your story is far from unique.
Title: Re: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: djones on February 16, 2014, 02:08:26 PM
 I use att internet service and my Netflix quality is just as good as Amazon prime, hulu, etc. my wife uses roku box on extra TV and it only uses apps..Netflix quality even as good as my HD direct TV so I would say it's something else causing your problem...Netflix on the roku and bluray player do come in worse quality than it does on my ps3
Title: Re: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: Razor X on February 16, 2014, 04:44:15 PM
but if they were doing something to slow download speeds for video streaming, wouldn't that affect other providers (Amazon, Vudu) as well as Netflix?
As a threat, Netflix is unique. Amazon, Vudu, and the others are just blips on the radar so far.

I'm not saying I have any insider knowledge, but your story is far from unique.

But is it possible for them to slow down Netflix without slowing down the others too?

My dad just got a new blu-Ray player.  I just hooked it up for him and signed him up for Netflix.  He is getting an HD picture.  He has Verizon Fios.  I have Comcast.
Title: Re: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: reddog on February 16, 2014, 04:55:28 PM
Found this on the net:

One Comcast subscriber, Dick Lambert of Roseville, has suffered through this issue for so long that he has spent time meticulously documenting it.

When Netflix is on his TV or PC, he said, data rates plunge. The rates are measured in megabits per second. For pristine high-definition gapless streaming, a data rate of about 5 megabits per second or higher is helpful.

Lambert sees excellent performance, often topping 10 megabits per second, when using video services other than Netflix. When he fires up Netflix, however, the data rate will plunge to well below 1 megabit per second.

Lambert said this problem is worst in the evening. Early in the morning, Netflix performance does improve.

Lambert is better equipped than most to monitor such data rates.

He receives video-streaming content via a Sony living-room media player with an unusual feature: It displays a precise data-rate reading each time he pulls up a video-streaming service.

That is why Lambert knew with certainty that his Netflix streaming had become severely impaired last June, improved in July, but deteriorated again just before Christmas, and has stayed that way ever since.


Lot's of info, Comcast is bad news!
Title: Re: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: mrzed on February 16, 2014, 05:01:21 PM
And Comcast is trying to Buy Time Warner Cable to add to their collection.
Title: Re: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: Razor X on February 16, 2014, 05:05:57 PM
Found this on the net:

One Comcast subscriber, Dick Lambert of Roseville, has suffered through this issue for so long that he has spent time meticulously documenting it.

When Netflix is on his TV or PC, he said, data rates plunge. The rates are measured in megabits per second. For pristine high-definition gapless streaming, a data rate of about 5 megabits per second or higher is helpful.

Lambert sees excellent performance, often topping 10 megabits per second, when using video services other than Netflix. When he fires up Netflix, however, the data rate will plunge to well below 1 megabit per second.

Lambert said this problem is worst in the evening. Early in the morning, Netflix performance does improve.

Lambert is better equipped than most to monitor such data rates.

He receives video-streaming content via a Sony living-room media player with an unusual feature: It displays a precise data-rate reading each time he pulls up a video-streaming service.

That is why Lambert knew with certainty that his Netflix streaming had become severely impaired last June, improved in July, but deteriorated again just before Christmas, and has stayed that way ever since.


Lot's of info, Comcast is bad news!


That is exactly what I am experiencing.  I also have a Sony that tells me what the download rate is.  It went down as low as 0.6 last night, while Amazon came in at 5 point something.
Title: Re: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: bella on February 16, 2014, 05:09:25 PM
In Canada, we've had major issues with throttling with Rogers.  Time and site specific, it seems, but not too predictable for us to plan around.

I'd be surprised not a bit if Comcast were throttling Netflix during peak hours or just in general because of some partnership otherwise standing.
Title: Re: Netflix vs. Amazon Prime
Post by: Tyler on February 16, 2014, 10:31:43 PM
I can't provide specific information, but the answer is yes, the networks can throttle Netflix traffic and I would not be surprised one bit if Comcast does it.

As you can see from this article, Netflix and YouTube account for 1/2 of Internet traffic!  http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/01/15/netflix-shares-idINL2N0KP1II20140115