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Title: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 23, 2007, 06:31:52 PM
hello guys,

two days ago i shaved my head sly bald.

i am 23 1/2 years old and i got a little bit of hairloss. i use some treatments against baldness. please dont get offended that i do so, but i think at my age hair is a benefit even if you shave. and there is another reason why i will go on taking these treatments. because i hate being shaved bald!  :'( ......but lets start at the beginning......

my hairloss started with 18 1/2 i think. with about 20 the first i really realized it because before i had long hair which covered it. then i got on finasterid. but my hair was already very bad and finasterid didnt improve it , only hold my hair. i went to get a haircut the day before i started with finasterid. i hated it when it was short because could see my balding. so i let it grow again and covered the thinning. later i even once wore a really weird hair style which was there to hide my balding.

ok but back again to the time 3 month after i started using finasterid. at this time i first went into a hairloss forum. i dont know if you are familiar with these forums, but there so many guys who tell you "baldness is the worst thing which can happen to you in life". you hear it over and over again. over and over again... so i got a depression.  :'( and you know, if you hear something often enough you believe in it.

then with 21 1/2 i started using "toppik" , some pouder you put into your hair to make it look full. but it looked like a mess on me. i didnt care and i was happy with it, but not my parents. they told me over and over again how shitty it looked. so i didnt go out much anymore and had problems. not a depression again, but problems with my life.

then with nearly 23 i started with minox foam and nizoral shampoo and now even eucapil.

in the last 10 month my hair got much much better and is now nearly "perfect" again. i wont get brad pitt density again (its still improving) but i think i will get a full head of hair again (if its grown out  ;) ) . only the temples will stay , but whatever. thats ok.

now 2 days ago, i saw some photos of bald celebrities like bruce willis or vin diesel. i thought looked cool. before i always really disrespected bald guys  :/O i dont know why....or well actually i know why....i was 3 hours a day in the hairloss forums and there you get told "bald guys are sh*t" or something like that  :/O and baldness is sooooooo bad  :/O . it destroys your life!!!!!  :/O  ;D . now i think other. i think it looks cool and its just a style .....if you are really bald or not.

so well, i was drunk and so i catched my razor and did it.  ;D   first i thought it was cool but now i cant handle it. :(

you hardly see my balding and i think thats not my problem anymore.....its more the look i got now. first it was sly bald.....now its more little stubbles. i already feel a bit better.

its 2 days now. and well i dont know why , but i havent met someone i know since then. so i cant get real reactions. the only reactions i get are interesting looks from other people. i dont get more glances from girls, but if they glance its other than before. i cant tell what is other , they somehow look as if they want to fall over me  ;D.

the last time i saw my hair i couldnt really tell my balding anymore. so it wasnt "needed" or something. i just did it for fun. not coz i had to. but now i hate it!!!!!  :'(

i think all the time that i look like 1. a skinhead (im even from germany so thats even more a problem than in other countries) 2. first i looked like someone with chemo therapy when i was sly bald  ;D.  but beware....i only *think* that. its only in my head. ohhh and 3. i think i look weird and other than "normal" people.

what doesnt help either are the (less than in the past) thoughts about my balding, i dont understand what the looks i get from other people mean and i dont know how they see me now and i nearly dont see other shaved guys.  ???

all this together makes me hate the bald look.  :'( all these thoughts!!!!!!!!  :/O

thinking about nonesense is anyway my biggest life problem.  :'(

hm.....can you help out of this situation?

well to sum it up. i hope you can give me some input so i can handle my situation better and how to get used to it.

but though i think i will let it grow out again anyway. a friend of mine who got a buzz cut says in about a week my hair is a buzz cut again. i cant wait until this happens and i cant wait until my hair is 4-5 cm long again. i already decided this. because i got enough hair to wear hair (not *wear hair*  ;D ......like this .....  :px         lol) and so will let it grow again.

but this will take time and i dont want to lose this time. your thoughts?
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Razor X on July 23, 2007, 06:49:10 PM
Hi, Andy and welcome to the SBG forum.  From what I can gather, the short version of your story is that your hair started thinning so you've been using finasteride and minoxodil and a few other products.  Then you got drunk and shaved your head and don't like it, so you're going to grow it out again.  What exactly are you looking for input from us on? ???
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 23, 2007, 06:57:12 PM
well, i am shaved now. so i want to know how you handle it. because it will need time to grow back.

and i want to know how to handle hairloss. or well, maybe i even just wanted to tell you guys my story?

please give me some advice.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Razor X on July 23, 2007, 07:07:40 PM
well, i am shaved now. so i want to know how you handle it. because it will need time to grow back.

and i want to know how to handle hairloss. or well, maybe i even just wanted to tell you guys my story?

please give me some advice.

Stop shaving and it will grow back.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: wpruitt on July 23, 2007, 07:14:25 PM
Andy:  The long and short of it is that within 7 days of a head shave, it will appear you have a short cut.  That is not a long time.  This time of year, short cuts are the norm so nothing will stand out.  

I am thinning quite badly one top.  I had the barber once buzz everything off (down to the skin).  That was on Monday.  By Friday, no one could tell.  I don't think you have anything to worry about.  If you are extremely self-conscious .... CAPS.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Paul on July 23, 2007, 07:49:52 PM
Welcome Andy, glad you are here.  It sounds like what you need to really do is keep it buzzed short if that is how you like it.  In the mean time it would seem that your biggest problem is that depressing hair loss forum with all of its negative talk. Avoid negativity and things that are getting you down.  Keep checking in here with people who are upbeat and positive about being bald and will support you. 
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Stu on July 23, 2007, 10:28:47 PM
it would seem that your biggest problem is that depressing hair loss forum with all of its negative talk.  Keep checking in here with people who are upbeat and positive about being bald and will support you. 

Amen to that!  You've got to get the hair loss forum people out of your head.  If your destiny is that you will be balding, don't try to do all the money-sucking things like hair pieces, drugs, etc. (or, ugh, the combover).  This is the best time to be bald.  It is mainstream, and is extremely liberating.  At the very least, a very short buzz is a good option.  You want to settle on a hair style that is easy, and one that you won't constantly obsess over.  Wash or shave, and go.  The less you think about it, the better off you will be.  You are young, and though that may be tough to some who are balding, the worst thing you can do is wallow in self pity.  This is the place to be 'pumped up.'  If you can, post a picture so we can let you know our thoughts on your look.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: OzPete on July 23, 2007, 10:29:53 PM
Welcome, Andy! If you don't like the shaved head look :o it does grow back...
Title: Re: hi
Post by: shyslyguy on July 24, 2007, 02:43:44 AM
Hi Andy007,

It can be depressing for a young guy when he starts losing his hair ... it's an uninvited & (to begin with) an unwanted change that is forced upon you, but don't worry, it's not the end of the world & though it may be difficult for you at the moment it does & will become easier.

If the minoxydil works for you then that may be the answer for a while but bear in mind that (from what I understand) it's a life-long commitment & is probably not cheap! Far better to, in the long run at least, learn first to accept the new you & if you can do that, then in time ... you'll genuinely come to like the new look as well.

I think you probably know this anyway which is maybe why you decided to post ... I think Paul's given you some great advice. 1) Stay away from those depressing forums (& you are right, they're awful depressing places!) & even more importantly 2) "Keep checking in here with people who are upbeat and positive about being bald and will support you."

Anyway, welcome to the forum - check out some of the old threads too ... you may find some helpful stuff on them.

Good luck.  O0
Title: Re: hi
Post by: herronm on July 24, 2007, 06:14:29 AM
Welcome Andy!!!  I suggest you give the SLY look 30 days.  That will give you time to get used to the new look and get your shaving technique down.  I know you are young and that can be rough, but don't get started on ways to re-grow or cover up.  Read the threads about those solutions.

Max
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Timmay on July 24, 2007, 08:16:55 AM
I dunno he really lost me on that one.  I just say if you dont like going bald...then let it grow back...simple
Title: Re: hi
Post by: BALDANDRE on July 24, 2007, 08:26:00 AM
I think you should grow it back...

hopefully it wont take 2 years, like is normally does when you first shave it...

too bad you didn't know that before you shaved it all off! ;)
Title: Re: hi
Post by: outsider82 on July 24, 2007, 08:41:15 AM
Hey Andy007

I agree with Paul and the others, I've myself read and even posted on those hairloss forums. They are indeed a very negative place. If you don't like being sly bald, you can always let it grow and go for the legth i currently have mine at (#2 on top #1 onsides). I can also tell you that hair when its that short can seem to grow quite fast. For me to maintain this length i need to get it buzzed at most every three weeks.

I intend on going sly eventually, but i am still working up the courage to do the deed.

I know that most people aren't bothered by buzzes/shaved guys these days. When i first decided to buzz my hair which was 12 months ago, I first got the tounge in cheek Jokes from work mates and friends but they were all cool with it.

I hope i make sense. he he he (its 20 mins to midnight).

I encourage you to post some pics as its easier for us to give advice.

Have a great one

Out :) 
Title: Re: hi
Post by: KALBO on July 24, 2007, 09:48:43 AM
Welcome to SBGs, Andy! 8)

Think you should post a pic here, maybe before and after, to get more feedback.  Your mind seems made up, but I was in the same situation when I was your age...wish I would have shave it then, but it took me many years later.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 24, 2007, 10:04:19 AM
well these were nice answers! thank you guys!  O0

not like in the hairloss forums. i think one big reason why i came here was even because i want to get a new insight on balding from more normal people like you.  ;) if you read these hairloss forums 3 hours a day, for 3 years you cant imagine what that does to your mind.  :/O

well, the meds are working and well yes i spend some money every month in them but i want it this way. im young and i want hair (shaved or grown out). please no discussion about kicking the meds.

i hope for hair multiplication to come out in the next 5-10 years and i hope i can hold my hair until that.

well, but my hair is NOT perfect. if you are familiar to hairloss you still can see it. even if hardly. so i need to handle this. especially while this "balding is the worst thing in the wolrd" is in my head.

ya let me tell you, i prefer hair over no hair and most people would i think. i dont have side effects from the meds so its ok for me to use them. but i still think about my baldings signs because for me its still there as little as it is.  :XX

so again , thank you very much guys for your answers, they really help. you know in real i nearly cant speak to anyone about my hairloss because noone understands it. i even cant speak about my hairloss to the guys in the hairloss forums coz they are negative and bring me down.

so maybe you guys are the answer! i hope you even let me stay here and we can make friends if i let it grow again.   :)

i want to get rid of these stupid thoughts of hairloss. lets see how my hair looks in a few days when i got a buzz cut. actually you dont see it on a photo that i got balding (but sorry, my handy cabel is defect so i cant upload the photos :( . but i will make a photo on saturday when my dad is back with his digital camera.  O:O ).

Title: Re: hi
Post by: Timmay on July 24, 2007, 10:51:56 AM
Thats cool Andy...just know that we are here to help you along.  Time to get rid of all those nasty thoughts from your hairloss sites.  We are only here to give you teh straight facts and to make you feel more like yourself..not what someone wants you to feel.  Thats waht it is all about..Being yourself.  And if having hair is yourself....then go for it. You will always be welcome here.  Its all about being Sly...and Sly I say you are.
Good Luck...and keep us informed
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 24, 2007, 11:17:26 AM
thank you very much, TimmJ!

its nice to be welcome. :)

i got to say, i got the link to this forum from a hairloss forum. when i first came here i thought all look "not good" and weird. but now i think you look pretty cool.

you know before i shaved it  i saw photos of sly bald celebrities. and that was why i shaved it sly bald. :) so now i think its cool. though its not me somehow, that s why i will let it grow again.

but thank you very much. the last 2-3 days i didnt feel good, i was almost depressed, but now after reading your constructive and nice posts i feel so much better! that was why i came here. to feel better after getting a feedback :). thx!!!  :)
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Scott on July 24, 2007, 11:34:44 AM
Andy007, welcome!  I think my bros have given you great advice thus far, so all I'll add is that if YOU want to grow your hair back, then DO IT.  However, I think you need to not be so hard on yourself about your hair - even though you're 23.  Most of the guys on here began losing their hair before/around their late teens/early 20's so we understand what you're dealing with there.  I guess most of all though, don't hang around in forums or around people who are constantly berating one another or are 100% negative because that's not healthy for you or anyone for that matter.  Just my .02.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 24, 2007, 11:43:42 AM
thx scott, ya i stopped now going to these forums.

the problem is, you even dont see many balding teens or 20's on the street. :-\

and im vain.  :-\  when i was young (around 16) i thought i would go bald with 35.  :D i thought around this time there was some gen therapy or something else to avoid it. actually it seems like at the time i will 35 there will be something. and there already the current treatments and they do work for me.

coz im vain i think i will always do something and spend money to have hair.

but if it doesnt turn out this way or something goes wrong with my "hair plans" i know now that a sly bald head always looks good , too!  8) so i think balding is not the worst thing in the world. hehe sounds stupid, but i am just now realizing this.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Koaa2 on July 24, 2007, 11:50:31 AM
Hi Andy,

Welcome to the site. Great advice and suggestions from others.

Beware of the hair loss forums, remember they are there to make money. "Follow the money is what a friend always tells me"

Suggest you start exploring with yourself what exactly hair loss means to you in psychological terms. Loss of youth, manhood, sexuality concerns, virility, girls, security, safety, etc., etc., etc. Might do you some good in the long run, save you some money and a lot of anxiety, guilt, etc.

Good luck and stay with the group.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 24, 2007, 12:26:17 PM
thx Koaa2, i think thats a good advice to think about what hairloss means for me psychologically.

hm...i think its losing of my youth. thats my biggest problem with it. or lets say that was my first problem with it. when i first realized i was going bald i thought my youth was over.  i thought i couldnt go to clubs anymore coz im now too old or look too old to match the people there.

then i went to the hairloss forums and then i started thinking "bald guys are losers, bald guys are less attractive, bald guys are less of a human, people make fun of bald(ing) guys, bald guys dont get girls, ..." . i now mostly dont think like this anymore. but what i still think that it takes youth off me. i said before i look very young for my age, one year ago i was told once i looked like 12 (ummm lol) and once i looked like 18. my ex said i looked like 17. some other people said i looked like 20 (though they knew i was a university student, so they automatically put some years plus on me). it even depends on the hair style you wear. actually if you can tell my balding i probably look older , but if you cant i probably look like 18-20. but if i wear an emo style (long hair) or hair spiked up everywhere on top (like beckham had at football WC 2002, dunno what name this style got in english), i think i look like 17-18.  so pretty much like a teenager. and somehow i like it. even because im not very adult yet, even in my mind im still more like a kid or teenager. so my outside matches my personality. i know i will have to become adult some time.....but just not now.

i think if i had really visible hairloss and people could tell, i looked like 25 or something and that wouldnt match myself, my personality anymore. its even i got problems in school and had nearly no friends. somehow i lost my youth coz of my problems. so somehow i want to make up for this time i lost. i know i cant be a real teenager again and be in school again... but i always wonder how it would be if i was in school again , 17-18 years old  and had many friends and not these problems and had just fun. i just lost the years from 17-19. and i want to live them again. i dont know if its ill to think like this...but i look like 17-19 if i wear the right hair style (if my hair is really good and i want to make it good again coz i want to look like 17-19 ) and i am like 17-19 in my personality so i can make up for this time and i want to do so. i wanted to do so since i was 20. but then hairloss came. so i thought i couldnt make it anymore. but i got a strong will and luck and so now its nearly like i am 17-19 again. i just need to get my hair really perfect again and then i can make up for this time. thats how i think. at least i think i think like that.

well actually thats not my only goal in life, but one. actually yes...i just now realize that i want to be 17-19 again and make up for this time. so thank you very much , Koaa2 for this input coz it makes me realizing why hairloss is such a problem for me.

actually there now 2 ways (since my hair isnt absolutley perfect yet)...1. make my hair perfect again and 2. change my mind. because i think its more cool and more fun i will try way 1. . i can be old or adult enough time in my life.

lets see how my hair looks when its 1-2 cm long. then i see if its ok because with a shaved head its hard to say if there is hairloss visible.

thx Koaa2....though im interested in what you think about this?
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Stu on July 24, 2007, 01:12:08 PM
Beware of the hair loss forums, remember they are there to make money. "Follow the money is what a friend always tells me"

I've never visited those forums, but it wouldn't surprise me if many of the postings are from people who work in the industry and are just making up stories of desperation, and how using drugs, plugs, etc. are the only answer.

By the way Andy, I think that having a short buzz looks more youthful and confident than trying to grow the hair long and attempting to cover up hair loss.  To me, you're 'being a man' when you don't attempt to hide what mother nature has dealt to you.  Again, I would like to see your pictures to see if maybe you are blowing your situation out of proportion.  Sometimes we are our own worst critic and enemy.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: frank_m on July 24, 2007, 03:40:18 PM
Andy,
First of all, welcome.

I am 'bald by choice' and I'm almost 40 year old.   
It has been just over a month since I initially went with the 'sly look'.
Since I have done that, most people think I am in my early 20's and I kid you not!

It took me a long time to muster up the confidence to shave all the way, I was very nervous about what everybody else would think.

Since the sly look is 'in', why not give it a try for 30 days... if you had a few drinks and shaved your head, that might tell you something..... some of us tend to do things that we normally wouldn't do after we have had a few drinks, but usually it is something that you wanted to do deep inside.

If you embrace the slyness, you will feel like a ton of bricks has been lifted off your shoulders, no more will you be concerned with meds, specific hair styles, and worrying about who might discover that you are thinning.    I know you don't want to hear about the meds, and I'm not going to lecture you, because I've been quite the pharmacist in my past, so I can't throw stones there.. think about how many euro's you will save if you don't have to worry about meds any more.

Now a days many people find the sly look attractive.

In the end you will make the final decision, but the guys on this site have given you some great advice: "stay away from the hair loss forums"... most people in there are quite negative, and if you constantly read that, it will rub off on you.

hopefully your friends and family will be supportive in what ever decision you make.

Take care!

Title: Re: hi
Post by: Tom McGarry. on July 24, 2007, 06:23:34 PM
well, the meds are working and well yes i spend some money every month in them but i want it this way. im young and i want hair (shaved or grown out). please no discussion about kicking the meds.

First and formost allow me to welcome you to the family.
Also, some of the other responses are good advise, but I think that part of your problem is that you have missconceptions of what it means to be attractive. Being attractive isn't about weather or not you have hair, or weather or not you are tall, short, fat, skinny, muscular, or what ever, it's being confident in who you are as a person, it's being happy with yourself and loveing yourself. I think that is the decisition you have to make, you have to decide weather or not you are going to be happy with who you are, and women and people in general like a man/person who has confidence in who they are.

I hope that makes sence to you, that is just my two cents.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 25, 2007, 09:55:07 AM
thx for your intelligent answers.

here is a pic from may of my hair . does it look bad? its now better. pease click to enlarge.

(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg75.imageshack.us%2Fimg75%2F61%2Fdsc00070ue3.th.jpg&hash=73e03567b99714b1b05128728d4b2c1190075e14) (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00070ue3.jpg)


the people in the hairloss forum say it looks damn bad. they say about im from full hair away as far as the earth from jupiter. what do you think?
Title: Re: hi
Post by: BALDANDRE on July 25, 2007, 11:58:53 AM
thx for your intelligent answers.

here is a pic from may of my hair . does it look bad? its now better. pease click to enlarge.

(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg75.imageshack.us%2Fimg75%2F61%2Fdsc00070ue3.th.jpg&hash=73e03567b99714b1b05128728d4b2c1190075e14) (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00070ue3.jpg)


the people in the hairloss forum say it looks damn bad. they say about im from full hair away as far as the earth from jupiter. what do you think?

Really, Andy, that's you?

For real, and I say this with respect  I would not consider that 'good hair" worth saving...would that hair give you confidence to go up against other dudes with GREAT hair in a nightclub (when it comes to picking up women)....?!

Dude...I would shave and not look back...start living your life bro! O0
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 25, 2007, 01:25:36 PM
thx for your intelligent answers.

here is a pic from may of my hair . does it look bad? its now better. pease click to enlarge.

(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg75.imageshack.us%2Fimg75%2F61%2Fdsc00070ue3.th.jpg&hash=73e03567b99714b1b05128728d4b2c1190075e14) (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00070ue3.jpg)


the people in the hairloss forum say it looks damn bad. they say about im from full hair away as far as the earth from jupiter. what do you think?

Really, Andy, that's you?

For real, and I say this with respect  I would not consider that 'good hair" worth saving...would that hair give you confidence to go up against other dudes with GREAT hair in a nightclub (when it comes to picking up women)....?!

Dude...I would shave and not look back...start living your life bro! O0

well thank you andre for you honest opionion! sure its not full hair like the guys in a nightclub have. actually i didnt wear it like this , i wore it a way you couldnt see it that much , i showed the front and brushed the hair on top forward. it didnt look bad.

actually its improving. so it can be good again in a few month.

i thought about it - well its my personal choice - and i dont want to show a pic of me and how i look . i dont want to risk that anyone i know finds out that i got so many problems with my hairloss. sorry.

but i can post a pic of my shaved head on saturday if you like. but only of my hair.  :-\ i dont want anyone to know how i look like. not that im too ulgy or anything, but i want to stay invisible.

and well this pic is under "hard lightning" so you see the thinning more than in real.


Title: Re: hi
Post by: Tyler on July 25, 2007, 03:01:02 PM
i dont want to risk that anyone i know finds out that i got so many problems with my hairloss. sorry.

Unless you are buzzing it down or shaving it, I'm pretty sure everyone you come in contact with knows you dealing with hairloss.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 25, 2007, 03:15:01 PM
well people i asked a month ago told me they didnt see hairloss.

it doesnt matter coz now im shaved.

to give you a little update. i already have stubbles again. i will go for a buzz cut now. and then i will buzz my hair at the sides shorter than on top so the top will look thicker.

guys, its stupid to say without an actual photo. its really thicker now. like i said on saturday i will post a new photo and then you really see how my hair looks NOW.

this photo i posted is from i think may 14th.

its now thicker. anyway...lets wait until saturday and then you give me a new opionion of what i should do with my hair.

i think i dont like the sly bald look somehow. but maybe a buzz cut is an option for me if my hairloss is still too visible.

so first on saturday you give me an opinion, then i will let it grow one month to a buzz cut so its then 0.5 inches long and i buzz the sides a bit shorter than the top.

then we see how my hair really looks.

after this i will decide. actually i can hardly see my hairloss. but i know if its longer you can see it more. so when i have this buzz cut , well, maybe then i will buzz it shorter if its still visible. or at this time it looks thick enough and i can let it grow again.

sorry for these mindgames , if it bores you, but i like it.

my hair was about 7-8 cm long . thats about 2.5 inches. so not really short , and a bit above average or lets say it was long hair.

hair grows about 0.5 inches a month. so in 3 months its 1.5 inches and in 4 months 2 inches which is a pretty normal length with which you can style your hair very good.

let see how it looks the next month. i post pictures first on saturday and then every week so you get a pretty good picture of my hair.

i hope i am welcome whatever i do. the sly bald look just isnt mine. but i know some guys in here even are buzzed and if my hair looks too bad i will probably go for the buzz cut or a short buzz cut with shorter sides. i just dont like to be shaved completley.  :-\

i already feel much better now where i have stubbles.

all the best for you , guys!  @#07
Title: Re: hi
Post by: jp_bald on July 25, 2007, 03:25:56 PM
hi andy
wellcome to the forum!!!
ejnjoy your headshave
Title: Re: hi
Post by: BALDANDRE on July 25, 2007, 03:34:08 PM
Wha?..............

My head hurts! :-\
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 25, 2007, 03:51:32 PM
hey i got stubbles again. hehe. i like this more than the sly look.

and I cant see hairloss. looks pretty thick :)  O:O

i got so much fear that you could see my hairloss when it grows. but you cant :)

well maybe if the hair would be long again, you could see it. damn please believe me my hair is improving due to treatments. :)

i showed a photo of mine to a girl friend. and she said i look pretty good shaved :). a little like vin diesel hehe.

is anyone here from germany, has a MMS mobile phone who i could send my photo to and can upload it on the internet???

because i would do so , so i could show you my photo :). but i need to do a photo session first to get a real good photo.  ;D  anyone???
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Tom McGarry. on July 25, 2007, 03:56:55 PM
I think that hairloss talk website, brainwashed you bad. Honestly Andy have you EVER seen a good combover??????? If you answere yes, than I guess it wasn't good enough!!!!!!
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Stu on July 25, 2007, 04:00:18 PM
Andy, I agree with Andre.  That is hair not worth keeping.  As I have said many times, a very close buzz for a balding dude is much better than what you show in that picture.  Not to make you feel bad, but if I saw you on the street, I would just think to myself that this is really sad.  This dude is trying to hide hair loss by growing it longer -- the only problem is that the hair loss is even more obvious the longer the hair gets.  Until you post some other pics, I can't disagree with your saying that your hair is now thicker with all of the meds you're absorbing into your body.  Let us see the shaved head and the buzzed head, and we'll be glad to offer our input.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Paul on July 25, 2007, 04:15:55 PM
Andy, what are you talking about dude?  That avatar is awesome... you were meant to wear the sly look.  You really need to keep it sly or at least buzzed short.   It is a great look for you.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 25, 2007, 04:16:32 PM
ha, there i am  8)  O:O

what do you think of me?

1. do you see the hairloss? and is my hair better now?

2. how do i look with my shaved head? does it suit me?

3. im not sly anymore, right? or am i?
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Tyler on July 25, 2007, 04:25:11 PM
Andy, that looks great bro!  I can't imagine that you aren't getting very positive responses from your new look. 
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 25, 2007, 04:28:58 PM
i know  :-\ im a pussy. if i look right and the reaction from my girl friend and your reactions show that i dont look bad with my shaved head. well, actually i look good.  ;D

i should name myself in pussycatdoll  :/O  ;D :*))

i will ask some more people in real what they think. :) maybe then these stupid thoughts finally go away.

well i look older now, more like 23... O:O
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Tom McGarry. on July 25, 2007, 04:34:09 PM
Dude Andy, that pic looks great, you are definatly SLY, it suits you very well. You need to tell that other site to kiss off " I AM A SLY BALD GUY", keep the sly look man. O0  O0
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Stu on July 25, 2007, 04:44:12 PM
Andy, dude you look awesome that way.  Ditch the drugs; keep it buzzed (or slick if you choose).  It is a great look for you.  I don't need to see the full-on look with you and the long, bad hair.  Try this look out for at least a month.  You will find yourself gaining confidence, and not worrying about messing with your thinning hair every morning.  If your friends give you a hard time, ignore them.  They'll soon forget what you used to look like.  If that doesn't work, we'll see if we can round up some of our sly brothers and we'll  (H@ or  ^)$$ to them.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 25, 2007, 05:02:10 PM
Andy, dude you look awesome that way.  Ditch the drugs; keep it buzzed (or slick if you choose).  It is a great look for you.  I don't need to see the full-on look with you and the long, bad hair.  Try this look out for at least a month.  You will find yourself gaining confidence, and not worrying about messing with your thinning hair every morning.  If your friends give you a hard time, ignore them.  They'll soon forget what you used to look like.  If that doesn't work, we'll see if we can round up some of our sly brothers and we'll  (H@ or  ^)$$ to them.

hehe, i dont think that this will be needed  ;D.

i wont ditch the meds though :) because well, like the bald by choice guys in my other thread said ...its nice to have the option

anyway, do you see hairloss?

i told you it got better. i dunno if its still visible.

what do you thinK?
Title: Re: hi
Post by: BALDANDRE on July 25, 2007, 05:32:56 PM
Andy, you look good bald, i would not even grow it out to stubble...for now...

get used to it for a month...then decide and see if you like it...

and just think all the time that you stay bald you'll be getting thicker hair that whole time...

then you might not even what all that hair!
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 25, 2007, 06:18:41 PM
i think the main reason why i did it was subsconciously that i wanted to see how my hair really looks like and how much hairloss i still got. but now with the shaved look i dont see it either.  :-\

when the hair is long you cannot see it very good coz always you have some hair there which lays over the thinning areas. its hard to measure where the hair got what density. and thats what i want to know.

i think the best length to see how my hair is, is 2 cm. so about an inch. or a bit less is still usable. so lets say around an inch is the best length for it. but with 0.5-1 cm you should see it pretty well aswell. that will be in about 2 weeks.

so until that i will let my hair grow.

like i said before , i dont like the sly look and i even dont like the shaved look very much. maybe i like the buzz - cut look??? we will see.

but what i really want now where i am shaved is an inch long hair. when i will get this in 2 month my hair wont hopefully be a problem anymore.

sorry guys that i wont stay in your club of  8) guys. i hope you can understand me somehow.

i mean, if it looks bad, i will go back to the shaved look. but umm its stupid to say but my hair will be really nice in 2 month if everything goes right.  O:O so at this time i wont have anything to worry about anymore in terms of hair. and im looking very hopefully and happy to this time. i just cant wait until my hair is an inch long (which still wont allow me to hide any hairloss if its still there which is a good thing).

but for the next 2-3 weeks i will be a shaved - buzzcut guy. :) so im the club  O:O hehe.

anyway thank you very much for all your posts and keep them coming! O0
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Razor X on July 25, 2007, 07:23:05 PM
i know  :-\ im a pussy. if i look right and the reaction from my girl friend and your reactions show that i dont look bad with my shaved head. well, actually i look good.  ;D

i should name myself in pussycatdoll  :/O  ;D :*))

i will ask some more people in real what they think. :) maybe then these stupid thoughts finally go away.

well i look older now, more like 23... O:O


I'm confused.  Your posts are all over the place.  First you said you didn't like it and now you're saying that it looks good.   Which is it? :-\

I have a very all-or-nothing attitude about hair.  If you have a great head of thick hair, then by all means hang on to it.  But if you have not-so-great hair or hair that is thinning or receding, you're probably better off without it.

Quite frankly, judging by the first photo you posted, your hair was a mess.  I agree with BaldAndre, hair like that is not going be able to compete with the full, thick hair that other guys in the clubs will have.  But you look terrific with the shaved/buzzed look.  Grow it out a little more if you're more comfortable that way, but keep it at 1/8" or 1/4", no longer.  Yes, some skin will show through the hair, but that is to be expected when your hair is cut so short -- so it actually helps camouflage the thinning areas. 

You need to stay away from that hairloss forum; it is a very negative place filled with unhappy people.  And you need to relax and stop worrying so much about what other people think.  Keep your hair buzzed or shaved; it really works so stop trying to fight it.  You'll look and feel a whole lot better.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: bnready on July 25, 2007, 07:25:08 PM
Hey whats up Andy007

   You know that in 100 years from now no one will care about my bald head or your's,that's why getting SLY is the way to go.You need to feel some love for that bald head of your's and then like magic the women will follow your lead.

I wish I had a dime for every woman thats rubbed my Head or Heads
My wife says " women love a man with a bald head its sexy"
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Timmay on July 25, 2007, 10:24:46 PM
Andy Andy Andy Andy!!!!!!  Oh how I wish you hadnt gotten mixed up with that hairloss forum.  ANDY YOU LOOK AWESOME BRO!  That picture you showed us....was that hair?  If that was hair ...i must have had a damn rain forest on my head.  I dont mean to sound cruel or anything Andy...but if that is the look you are trying to acheive...well if i were you ...( yes me)  i would keep ti shaved off man.  I m liek the other guys....the comb overs are really bad.  THe guys who do the comb overs ....are jsut fooling themselves.  And liek the others.. IM confussed as hell...either you liek it or you dont..which isit??
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 25, 2007, 10:36:12 PM
well i think it looks good, but i dont like it. does that make sense?  :/O

hm...maybe i just need to get used to it.  8)

well i dont know if the hairloss forums where the problem. i didnt like my balding even before i went to the hairloss forums. they just made it worse i think.

the biggest problem was , i hoped propecia would make my hair really thick again, but when i saw it didnt that was really depressing. though actually this was excactly the time when i first went into a hairloss forum.  :XX

at least i want to grow it now to see how my hair is now. maybe when its a buzz look i can see already if its still that bad.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: xnewyawka on July 25, 2007, 10:40:38 PM
Andy, I agree with Razor, you're all over the place.
But I can also understand why. Losing your hair at any age is not pleasant.
Losing it at a young age must really be hard.
I started noticing my thinning a couple of years ago(I just turned 44). But, as most of the other guys are saying, you have to put in in some sort of perspective.
Really try to be honest and take a good long look in the mirror. You will probably come to the decision to keep it sly and clean. It looks much, much better shaved down or buzzed.
And also, you really have to stay off the hair loss forum. It is not helping you at all. If anything, it is totally messing with your head, playing on your insecurity. Don't fall for it.
Stick around here, these guys are a great bunch and will help you get through it.
Good luck and hang tough!

Joe
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 25, 2007, 10:53:28 PM
isnt here a magican. someone who's name is harry potter and you just make hair thick again?

why cant it be thick like the one of every 23 years old guy.  :XX


well is there at least someone else here who is in my age who i could share my problems with?

i mean its cool from you older guys to give support  O0 but i would like to write with someone my age so much. someone who can understand me more. and who is not from these hairloss forums.  :XX

Title: Re: hi
Post by: Tyler on July 26, 2007, 12:18:25 AM
Hey whats up Andy007

   You know that in 100 years from now no one will care about my bald head or your's,that's why getting SLY is the way to go.You need to feel some love for that bald head of your's and then like magic the women will follow your lead.

I wish I had a dime for every woman thats rubbed my Head or Heads
My wife says " women love a man with a bald head its sexy"

Well said bro!! Oh, and nice shirt!!
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Tyler on July 26, 2007, 12:33:11 AM
isnt here a magican. someone who's name is harry potter and you just make hair thick again?

why cant it be thick like the one of every 23 years old guy.  :XX


well is there at least someone else here who is in my age who i could share my problems with?

i mean its cool from you older guys to give support  O0 but i would like to write with someone my age so much. someone who can understand me more. and who is not from these hairloss forums.  :XX



I was only two years older than you when I started shaving my head and probably started thinning a year before that.  So, I know what you're going through.  My worry is that you have a false sense of reality when it comes to your hair and what you think it can provide.   

You are taking meds in hope that someone will come out with a hair restoration technique in the future.  Why don't you shave your head and if someone comes up with that technique you can then grow your hair out and have the procedure done.  Otherwise, all you are doing is spending money on a product that probably isn't doing anything - i know you say it does, but I think that is probably your false hope - and you have a VERY HIGH percentage of ruining your sex life - the one thing you're worried about losing along with your hair.  Oh, and if you took that money that your spending on meds and invested instead, that would probably be even more attractive to a woman that a thin mop on the top of your head.

Here you have plenty of guys, regardless of age, telling you how you can shed your worries and live a more confident, fulfilling life.

Though, that's just my opinion.  I'll shut up now and go hang out with my beautiful wife.

(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/gallery/1_25_01_07_2_03_34.jpg)

wait, she's asleep.  Maybe I'll go hang out with the playboy bunnies...

(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/gallery/1_10_05_07_5_01_31.jpg)

That is what you're ultimately worried about right?  Not being able to get chicks?
Title: Re: hi
Post by: outsider82 on July 26, 2007, 07:17:02 AM
isnt here a magican. someone who's name is harry potter and you just make hair thick again?

why cant it be thick like the one of every 23 years old guy.  :XX


well is there at least someone else here who is in my age who i could share my problems with?

i mean its cool from you older guys to give support  O0 but i would like to write with someone my age so much. someone who can understand me more. and who is not from these hairloss forums.  :XX



Andy,

I am 25 (close to your age) i noticed my hair thinning at the same age you are now. I've had the thought about going sly in the back of my mind since the time i discovered it. I just haven't had the will power to take the plunge yet. I wasnt able to see the original pic of you before the cut but from what i can see, that look suits you. You have a good head shape. If your worried about pulling chicks, you shouldn't have to worry about that. A LOT of the other guys here can vouch for me that chicks love a bald guys. ohh and just for the record, so do gay guys.
 
I have a woman at work that talks about her husband saying how much she wants him to go sly.  I made a bet with her this week, if she can get her husband to go sly, I would do it too. She said, "you wanna be bald hey?" i laughed and said, "i'm not scared."

Back on the topic at hand.  My two best friends are balding, they are both 24 and 27. Its not as uncommon as you think. Next time you go out, take a look at guys our age and notice how many of them have some sort of hair loss.

Hairloss is something that unfortunately we can't change as much as other people and companies want to tell us. I decided early on that if I showed signs of MPB I would shave/buzz mine and not bother with drugs or creams, etc,  or god forbid, Comb Overs (ewww).

Keep shaving your head and give it time, it will grow on you.

I hope that helps in some way or another. Just remember, the more you smile the more attractive you are to others :)

Out
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Timmay on July 26, 2007, 08:19:48 AM
Well if it is mostly you be worried about the women steering away from you ....let me tell you ....it only makes them drive closer to you.  When I was in Florida..we ate at this restaurant and this chick i would say prolly 21 or 22 years old...she was our waitress and you know how you are always looking for your waitress or waiter for refills...well I never had to look for her because she was constantly coming back to our table wiht a huge smile and at first I didnt think much of it until i would watch her as she would walk away....she would turn her head around and here eyes were like locking in on my head an dshe had a big smile on her face.  The whole time Im thinking...Gawd I hope my wife isnt noticing this...cause here I sat with my  wife and three kids.  And I am always getting compliments mostly from the ladies.  I have also noticed that people I have talked to before and had conversations with have usually just stood there and chatted with me but always seem preoccupied.  Now these same people I have noticed when they talk to me they are focused on me....either on my head or looking straight at me and they sometimes wont SHUT UP! LOL... It just makes me feel better as a person.  Hey look ....i know being bald isnt for all people, but when you have this many compliments about how you look better shaved or buzzed down...why not go with it.  What if we drug a bunch of girls into this site and had them all give you their opinion and they were all over you saying how good it looked..would you keep it shaved??  I think you would....I just pray for the day that everyone will finally stop and take a look at themselves and see that waht they are doing is for the benefit of others and not for themselves.  That is where we need to turn the table around...we need to do things for the benefit of ourselves and not what others think.   I think in due time..you will find being sly is the ultimate.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: warhawk on July 26, 2007, 09:59:54 AM
ANDY!!!!!  LISTEN 2 THE ADVICE OF R FEARLESS LEADER ....TYLER AND THE REST OF R BRAHS..... u r just like a very thirsty camel & we have brought u in front of this big a$$ ocean....man...it is up 2 u 2 drink it or don't.  that pic of u with the mpb pic is definitely NOT cool or sly @ all.  take it from me & the rest of my sly brahs & keep shaving your dome.  i mean.... IMO.... u r rocking the look but if u go back & grow it out i KNOW that u will b making a mistake & u will definitely & absolutely won't b getting the attention of the lay-days.
   
also.... in order 2 get attention from the lay-days, u must have confidence about yourself first.  because..... that is prolly the main reason why u ain't getting the attention that u want.  MEMO 2 U:  get confidence & keep your dome smooth.  (POINT BLANK) & end of issue.  anyways.... we have brought u 2 this big a$$ ocean..... it's up 2 U if u want 2 satisfy your thirst. PLEASE.... don't get offended this is only tough love from brother WARHAWK & his 2 cents.


WARHAWK O0

Title: Re: hi
Post by: Stu on July 26, 2007, 11:59:10 AM
Back on the topic at hand.  My two best friends are balding, they are both 24 and 27. Its not as uncommon as you think. Next time you go out, take a look at guys our age and notice how many of them have some sort of hair loss.


I think you are right, outsider, it's a lot more common than you might think.  The ones who stick out are the ones who try to hide the 'unhideable' hair loss.  There are a lot of buzzed guys who are losing their hair.  Look around, and you will see a lot of guys like that.  It's just not as noticeable because you really only see the ridiculous combover or long-hair-but-not-covering-up-my-hair-loss guys.  I am curious to hear from any of our lady members what your initial opinion is of a balding guy who is in shape and buzzes his hair down.  Do you think that this guy is more attractive, confident, AND approachable than the same guy who resorts to some method to 'cover up' the hairloss.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: YOSP on July 26, 2007, 01:36:16 PM
I wish I would have jumped in sooner....

First, Andy welcome to the site bro, you came to a place that you will find things that others will relate to and it will help to know you are not the only one out there...

Now, by some of your posts, honestly my eyes are crossed :o, but you are definitely at that stage, I guess between Denial & Acceptance...it keeps flip-flopping, but you are going to go through that. Do you spend a lot of time in the mirror??? don't answer, I already know it is yes. Give it a break. You are your worst critic bro. You have to take a stance, sooner or later...the sooner the better!

Keep it short, it looks good. You have to start by making yourself happy and your confidence will come. Its noticeable about your insecurity, but only because of your posts. Believe me, everyone you come across is not looking at your hair, or even care who the hell you are...they are too busy worrying about THEMSELVES. I suggest you read some more topics, get some more great advice, and set a goal to make a decision on your hair. Once you do, stick with it, and it will be 1 less thing you have to worry about...you will love the freedom once you are at the acceptance stage...I promise dude O0   
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 26, 2007, 01:43:55 PM
well guys, my problem isnt the ladies. i even think that with a shaved head i will get many more ladies than with a full head of hair.

i think its coz of the thoughts in my head. they make we want to have hair. and they are deep down.

i just cant stop the pills. and at the moment i dont have any sides.

money isnt an issue coz this problem with hair or no hair is so much controlling my life that its just worth the money.

the only thing with which you could convince me stop taking the meds is if you tell me that a horseshoe pattern looks better than a hair pattern.

we should make a study  ;D. who is more happy and successfull......the bald by choice guys or the "real" bald guys in here???

let me just make this try. i want to grow it out again to about 1.5 inches. then i see how bad it looks now.

i now think a sly bald head isnt the worst thing of the world ;)  8). but i still would prefer hair. and i definatley would prefer to have this shadow of hair.

i think what will be good for me is a buzz cut with shorter sides.

so again, its not coz of the ladies. i already see that with a shaved head i get better attention from the ladies. so thats not the problem.

the problem is in me. what i want from life.

maybe in a few years im this far that i am in a situation where i *could* kick the meds. but not now. im just too insecure for this and not adult enough.

i really think that at the time my hair is grown out it will look much better than on this photo due to improvment.

Title: Re: hi
Post by: Sgt. Pate on July 26, 2007, 01:51:33 PM
Welcome Andy,

Give yourself a little time to adjust and I'm sure you'll never go back!   O:O
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 26, 2007, 01:54:56 PM
I wish I would have jumped in sooner....

First, Andy welcome to the site bro, you came to a place that you will find things that others will relate to and it will help to know you are not the only one out there...

Now, by some of your posts, honestly my eyes are crossed :o, but you are definitely at that stage, I guess between Denial & Acceptance...it keeps flip-flopping, but you are going to go through that. Do you spend a lot of time in the mirror??? don't answer, I already know it is yes. Give it a break. You are your worst critic bro. You have to take a stance, sooner or later...the sooner the better!

Keep it short, it looks good. You have to start by making yourself happy and your confidence will come. Its noticeable about your insecurity, but only because of your posts. Believe me, everyone you come across is not looking at your hair, or even care who the hell you are...they are too busy worrying about THEMSELVES. I suggest you read some more topics, get some more great advice, and set a goal to make a decision on your hair. Once you do, stick with it, and it will be 1 less thing you have to worry about...you will love the freedom once you are at the acceptance stage...I promise dude O0   


thank you YOSP. this post really helps me. you are right, i always look in the mirror, all the time. even if im out of the house i got to bathrooms and look how it looks in different lightning.

and yes, i think its true, im between denial and acceptance. sometimes i think noone notices and i got for other people a full head of hair coz they arent familiar with hairloss and what to look for. or i think "oh in this lightning you wont see it".

then other times i think everyone sees my hairloss and my horseshoe pattern. i even think people talk about it.  :/O

Title: Re: hi
Post by: warhawk on July 26, 2007, 03:12:00 PM

YOSP....man... i agree my eyes r crossed after reading andy's post. :/O  in fact i'm gonna take some tylenol 2 knock this headache..... andy... i hope that u can get out of the denial/accetance of your mpb.  your lack of confidence is evident from your post.  man.... u r sooo young 2 b depressed.  man....this is the prime of your life!!!  ask another one of r sly brahs... chico d..... man..... he is exactly in your position but he has accepted his mpb and luving his new look.  hopefully your next post will b somewhat positive and that u can tackle & accept your mpb because there r no meds that will cure mpb unless u want 2 wear a rug.  anyways.... enough with my blabbering.... i just hope that u can accept & embrace it.  because u r NOT officially sly unless u have embraced & r PROUD 2 have a slick dome.

WARHAWK O0
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 26, 2007, 03:57:42 PM
a bit all you guys are obsessed with having a sly head. i mean a sly head looks good, but lets all accept that hair looks good too.

i just think that in 2-3 month my hair will be normal looking. and if that happens i will never shave my head. if i can get my hair normal looking again, shaving is not the style i want to have.

the next 3 and a half month my hair should go on improving if everything goes normal. you never know so dont quote me on that. but its possible. absolutley.

i dont think its that easy to accept a really bald head (even if shaven) with a horseshoe pattern. its easy though to accept hair.

i wont kick the meds. period. i decided it after thinking long about it.

maybe if my hair doesnt turn out to get normal looking again in a half - a year then maybe i will revide my choice. but as long as i get the chance to have normal looking HAIR again i wont ditch this option.

i will work on acceptance in the meantime though.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Paul on July 26, 2007, 04:14:36 PM
Andy, can't help but feel that you think that because we shave our heads we are not "normal"   Normal is what works for each individual.   You believe we are "obsessed" with having a sly head.  Well this forum is called "Sly Bald Guys", not "Guys Who Can't Make Up Their Minds Whether to Shave or Not."   It really seems to me that you have some deep psychological concerns about your hair loss.  If that is so then you need to work those out first and then make a decision on how to wear or not have hair.  You keep asking for advice but seem unwilling to accept that is so kindly offered by the members here.   You need to make a decision as to what is right for you and then do it!!!
Title: Re: hi
Post by: BALDANDRE on July 26, 2007, 04:24:02 PM
Hmmm......... my head hurts even more than before :-\
Title: Re: hi
Post by: warhawk on July 26, 2007, 04:29:32 PM
Hmmm......... my head hurts even than before :-\

man.... that tylenol is NOT getting rid of my headache. >:(


WARHAWK O0

Title: Re: hi
Post by: warhawk on July 26, 2007, 04:32:42 PM
 p0@^

WARHAWK O0
Title: Re: hi
Post by: xnewyawka on July 26, 2007, 10:46:35 PM
Jeez! this guy is all over the map! I get crosseyed too reading his posts.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 27, 2007, 08:59:22 AM
well i now think i have deep underlying psychological problems with baldness.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: frank_m on July 27, 2007, 01:26:18 PM
well i now think i have deep underlying psychological problems with baldness.

Andy,
not sure if you are being serious or sarcastic, I wouldn't say you have underlying psychological problems with baldness, but you have an issue with your self image, or it may be called dysmorphic syndrome, that means the way you see yourself is quite different than the way others see you.

I know some of the other guys here have asked you how much time you spend in the mirror, and I think that might give you a good place to start.. are you spending too much time looking in the mirror and trying to change something you cannot?

The guys here are just trying to give you the encouragement to go sly and keep it that way, you may think you are alone and nobody else has ever experienced the feelings you  have right now.   If that is the case, you can't be more wrong.     One thing I've learned in my life is that listening to others and their experiences is a valuable resource, kind of like  'history' if we didn't know history, we are bound to make the same mistakes again.    Listen to what the other guys here have to say, as much as you may not like what they have to say, many have been right where you are now.    Many have had to make the decision(s) that you are faced with.

One thing I love now that I'm sly, I don't have to worry about my hairstyle any more, I simply shower and shave, and I am quite happy about it... I have had very few negative comments, the few negative people, I don't care about at all... I have had about 10 times the positive comments versus the negative ones.


Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 27, 2007, 04:55:13 PM
i cant stand this what this does to my life and to me anymore. i know its only in my head. but i want to kill myself. no fun.

i mean everything i write serious. i want to kill myself.  :'( thats probably the best way.

my life was so cool when i hided my balding. now i shaved it and you see it. i just HATE it. i HATE my looks.

i know im sounding weird and you cant understand me.  :'( it has gone very far with me.  :'(

everything was so good. and now....im at the bottom of life. my looks suck big way.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: hi
Post by: warhawk on July 27, 2007, 06:25:46 PM
andy.... wazzup, brah!!!  1st of all.... PLEASE DON'T KILL YOURSELF!!!  man... u r only 23 & have many more 2 live.  i know that this is a difficult time 4 u but i hope & pray that u will find a way 2 solve your situation besides killing yourself.  find something constructive on dealing with the adversities that u r going thru... like talking 2 a family member or close friend.  please.... if u need 2 talk 2 us via this forum.... we r here 4 ya. 

man.... as the brothers have said.... we feel that  your dome is rocking.  (honestly...we do).  give it some time....atleast 30 days 2 get accustomed 2 your new look.  anyways.... right now...i am a lost 4 words because i am speechless from your previous post 'bout u hurting yourself.  man.... post back 2 let us know that u r still alive and want 2 deal with this situation.  man.... the sly brahs r here 4 ya.  let me hear ya.... andy!!!


WARHAWK O0
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Tom McGarry. on July 27, 2007, 07:00:48 PM
Andy I agree with Warhawk man, you can just talk to us man, don't go hurting yourself, it's only hair, I (we) do think that you look good with a bald head, but it's ultamatly your choice if you're going to shave it or not. If you want to talk privately, you can send someone on this forum a personal message, so it will only be between the two of you, who ever it is. Just don't hurt yourself OK, please let us try to help, we are family here and that includes you.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Razor X on July 27, 2007, 07:58:45 PM
i cant stand this what this does to my life and to me anymore. i know its only in my head. but i want to kill myself. no fun.

i mean everything i write serious. i want to kill myself.  :'( thats probably the best way.

my life was so cool when i hided my balding. now i shaved it and you see it. i just HATE it. i HATE my looks.

i know im sounding weird and you cant understand me.  :'( it has gone very far with me.  :'(

everything was so good. and now....im at the bottom of life. my looks suck big way.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I think you need more help than anyone here is qualified to give you.  There are plenty of people here who can give you encouragement and support, which is fine, but please consider professional counseling to help you through these issues.  I think there is more to this than just a haircut that you're not happy with.

Title: Re: hi
Post by: frank_m on July 27, 2007, 08:00:12 PM
i cant stand this what this does to my life and to me anymore. i know its only in my head. but i want to kill myself. no fun.

i mean everything i write serious. i want to kill myself.  :'( thats probably the best way.

my life was so cool when i hided my balding. now i shaved it and you see it. i just HATE it. i HATE my looks.

i know im sounding weird and you cant understand me.  :'( it has gone very far with me.  :'(

everything was so good. and now....im at the bottom of life. my looks suck big way.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Andy,
I think it's quite the opposite, now that you've shaved it,, it is not that obvious any more, your longer hair was obviously thinning.

If you are serious, then you need to speak to somebody and get some help, and I mean that seriously, not in a bad way.

take care of yourself, don't let this manifest into something more.

Title: Re: hi
Post by: Tyler on July 27, 2007, 09:44:20 PM
Andy, bro, talk to someone about this.  Friends, Family, Professional help, just talk to someone.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Kajun on July 27, 2007, 09:53:36 PM
seek professional help..there is really nothing more we can do for you andy...you need to see a doctor.


Title: Re: hi
Post by: caliwrestla on July 28, 2007, 10:54:11 AM
hey andy yeah i would go see a therapist they can help out a whole lot. im also 23 and going bald cause it runs in my family but i learned to accept it. i think u look awesome wit ur head shaved in your pic u still look young and everything
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Stu on July 28, 2007, 05:07:35 PM
Andy,

Dealing with hair loss shouldn't be this difficult.  It's fairly normal for someone to have problems when facing hair loss, but your problems are way beyond normal.  You need to get some serious help.  Just think of how ridiculous (not funny) it would sound that someone took such serious action to one's self over hair loss.  Is that how you would want to be remembered?  You are a good looking guy, and in our opinion, very sharp with the sly side going for you.  Get some help and fast... seriously!
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 28, 2007, 06:02:33 PM
i maybe have a solution now for my problem.

i always thought people wouldnt like me and wouldnt respect me coz of my hairloss. in fact i thought they would disrespect me. i thought so much about that , that it drove me crazy. you saw that.

now i want to stop these thougths and believe that i can make people to like me and to respect me. i need to just believe in that. and not think!!!!!!

actually thinking about things is the biggest problem in my life. i even think so much about my studies that i dont study. sounds stupid but it was like that in past.

i need to change this now. not think anymore but believe that i will be successfull.  with my studies and with people.

i thought so much about if people wouldnt like me with my bald head that i didnt even try if they would like me. i didnt go much out of the house the last week.  :-\

now i need to change. believe that people will like me. and try it. find out if they actually do so.

thx for listening.

Title: Re: hi
Post by: Tyler on July 28, 2007, 10:29:35 PM
Andy, believe it!  They will like you just the way you are; hair or no hair.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: warhawk on July 28, 2007, 11:11:37 PM
andy.... remember 2 luv yourself 1st and foremost b4 even thinking 'bout other people liking u.  because if u don't luv yourself..... how can u expect 4 others 2 luv or like u. because if u luv yourself.... U WILL NEVER EVER TRY OR THINK ABOUT HURTING YOURSELF.... anyways... good 2 hear from u.  and keep us posted with everything.

WARHAWK O0
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 29, 2007, 01:43:59 PM
its not that others dont like me. the problem is that i think that now where i show my thinning head that they now dont like me anymore. i think this. i just think it.

i think you only like yourself if others like you. you cant like yourself if EVERYbody else doesnt like you. then you automaticly start to hate yourself.

i got many problems in school and then in soccer club. i think this is where this fear comes from.

if i think about it i got the most fear in showing my new balding head to the guys in the soccer club and the people from my old school.

ya, that s the problem . i now need to start believing that they will like me. just for who i am.  like everyone says ....people like you for who you are and not for your hair.

i just need to stop thinking they already dont like me. maybe they wont like me .....thats possible. but i at least got to try it. and well, if they dont like me , i wont have something to do anymore with them. there are enough people who do like me and to who i can go and have fun with. :)

i just now need to stop these thoughts and go out on street and have fun and live life.

its simple now where i realize it. :)

i will post a new photo maybe today or tomorow. i dont smile at this photo i have in here and i look so bad...not ugly or this kind of bad, but BAD. like a bad boy.

i already made a new photo and i look much friendlier and even better on this one. anyway my hair has already grown a bit and you can call it buzz cut now :).

good luck for all of you!
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 29, 2007, 02:15:33 PM
there is my new photo! :)

i made an appointment. i will switch to another soccer club and leave the old shitty one. the people there just sucked.

i dont know if i wont have problems there in the new club but its worth a try. :)

anyway...i even maybe wont go to the school meeting . because the people from my old school didnt like me very much.

so i dont know yet, but maybe i wont even go there. i need to start a new life.

a life without this worrying about people laughing about me or making fun.  i need people in my life who like me and are friendy to me.

i already  feel much better now. :)

good luck to all of you!
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 29, 2007, 10:36:02 PM
ok.....i fall back. sad to say, but it is like that.

i now know excaclty where these problems come from. did i tell you that i got problems in school?

well after it, i got problems too. it didnt stop. it just went better. but this of getting made fun of didnt stop. and sometimes people fun of me again. mostly not in a that bad way, but it hurts nonetheless.

i now have fear of everyone who ever made fun of me in my whole life.

i really got fear that now if i meet just one of such people they will laugh their ass off of me. they would make so nasty jokes about me. huh.

that are the thoughts i think.

remind that i...if you take a few exepctions out...always hided my balding. it started probably at 18. first i didnt really realize it coz i wear a long hair cut which i mostly did always before. it wasnt to hide the baldness. but it made me not realize that i was balding.

i just realized when i was 20. well it was bad already there ..now its better ....probably like it was with 19 1/2.

if i think back until 19 i had only temples and just then it started really bad.

whatever.

the problem is I ALWAYS hided it. there were like i said a few exeptions when i didnt hide it. mostly i didnt want this....i didnt want to show it.

i remember when i was 19 1/2. there a girl said to me "you are balding, how sweet". i was drunk there and i forgot about it.

that was the only , really the only time when anyone ever said anything about balding to me. never ever in anytime again anyone said anything (nice sentence lol).

ok, if i showed it to someone he/she said "ok yes, you are balding". but that were mostly only my parents.

because when i got my only balding comment i didnt realize it.......so i dont know the feeling getting told "you are going bald!".

i got so much fear of getting this told. i really think my life will be over by then.

stupid or weird or ill......whatever you want to call it.

well, the most fear i got from the people from my old school and from people from soccers club.

but  i even got fear of other people that they say something about my balding or that they make fun of me coz of it or that they react weird and unfriendly to me coz im balding.

so well.....the problem is I ALWAYS hided it. so you couldnt see it (ok i know if you woulda know about balding and things you maybe could *think* "oh he s balding and he is trying to hide it") . now where i write this, i wonder how many people in my life who have seen me have thought exactly this. haha. this may be. that some people already know that im balding.

hm.

well....to go on....this is the problem. for the most people it maybe now comes out of nothing that im balding.

so i got fear that they react negative on me. very negative. or that the people who already know im balding laugh their ass off or something like this.


thankfully i already got a plan. its this one.....

i will meet someone, a friend from university and i will ask him what he thinks about my new looks.

then tomorow i will go in soccer training again. i got probably the most fear of the people from my soccer club. any person once said something like "if you fear something, then do it and the fear will die a sure dead". is this speaking right???

actually i hope that in two days its over.

i mean the meeting with my friend will be nice and give me some confidence.....but what really counts is how the people in my soccer club will react. if that goes positive .....i hope im cured.

but only god knows......

any suggestions?
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 29, 2007, 10:43:38 PM
well sad, this is getting a one wayer.  :'( i write, noone writes back.  :-\

well though maybe someone reads and answers to me. ????

i need to write this off my chest.....

maybe my mom didnt it make better when she told me i looked so bad when i hided my balding. i always thougth then.....if i look so ridiculous if i hide it ....how do i have to look if i show it???? (in my mind i woulda looked so ridicoulus that i couldnt go on street anymore.......which i now dont do nearly)

even what didnt make it better was when on my school meeting the last year and the year before poeple made fun of another guy who is balding and who shaved it.

even what didnt make it better was when in my soccer club people made fun of the balding guys who were there.

yes...tough times.


this what im writing here all goes in my mind ......now i just realize it that it goes in my mind. before all was in my subsconcious mind. which didnt make it better coz well it was there. everything what is in your subsconcious mind plays a role.

so maybe you want to answer me??? or i need to call me little friend here.....  :x! hehe
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Tyler on July 29, 2007, 11:09:29 PM
If you really want to know what I think you should do, then here it goes.

I think you should get out the razor and shave ALL of your hair off your head.  Then, call up as many friends or people that you know and ask them to meet you tomorrow for coffee, or drinks, or something and tell them that you've been struggling with going bald and you think shaving your head is the solution.  Then ask them if they can support you with a shaved head.  Don't ask what they think of it, because they may not like it, but ask them to support you in having that style.

The reason that I say to shave all of your hair off is that it's HARDER to tell if you're balding or not with a shaved head, so that way all of the new people you meet won't know if you're balding or not.  They'll think because you're young you decided to shave your head on your own.

I really don't think you're going to get past all of this without having to confront the people you're so fearful of and learn that they are more fearful of what you think of them that worrying about what your hair looks like.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 29, 2007, 11:19:24 PM
come on my little friend.( :x!)..beat them...they dont answer to me....

maybe my little friend needs to ask his little other friends .........here they come ....
 :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x!


oh oh....dont you get fear?  :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x!

answer to me!!!  :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x! :x!

hehe

little joke ....  :*))

ok....back to the toppic...

i think i have even so much fear of this coz my mom always told me when hided my balding "you see it, my son" "you can see it and you look so ugly when you hide it"

now i think "oh everyone knows im balding anyway" . "this will be a huge laugh off for them when they actually see me with my thinning head".

that s what i think. and that s why i got so many problems with my balding.

one side note: it has really absolutley nothing to do with women.....while some of you thought that.

in fact i even think or heard so often that women find balding or bald men attractive . so i actually think now i look better for women.

ya well i think women find me now more attractive than before.

but that doesnt count for me. a beautiful women in life would be like a consolation.
i think in my age women come and go. its nothing what you can count anything on.

im more worried about my future in terms of money and socially. that are very important things to get the women of your dreams at the right time. but im just too young for this.

im at the beginning. im not thinking about marriage yet. and what i do have if i now f**k 10 women a week? nothing . it comes and goes.

and then 10 years later i ask myself ....what did i do all the time??? fucked all those women and now im poor and bald and dont have anything.

ok that was off-topic.

i pretty much wrote everything.

now please answer me!!!  8)
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 29, 2007, 11:22:51 PM
If you really want to know what I think you should do, then here it goes.

I think you should get out the razor and shave ALL of your hair off your head.  Then, call up as many friends or people that you know and ask them to meet you tomorrow for coffee, or drinks, or something and tell them that you've been struggling with going bald and you think shaving your head is the solution.  Then ask them if they can support you with a shaved head.  Don't ask what they think of it, because they may not like it, but ask them to support you in having that style.

The reason that I say to shave all of your hair off is that it's HARDER to tell if you're balding or not with a shaved head, so that way all of the new people you meet won't know if you're balding or not.  They'll think because you're young you decided to shave your head on your own.

I really don't think you're going to get past all of this without having to confront the people you're so fearful of and learn that they are more fearful of what you think of them that worrying about what your hair looks like.

good!

didnt i write that? i try to get some meetings today. and tomorow i will go to soccer club.

maybe i could ask people in the soccer club what they think of my buzzed head.

Title: Re: hi
Post by: Stu on July 30, 2007, 12:18:03 AM
I agree with Tyler.  You need to just shave that head, talk honestly with your friends about what they think, and get on with your life.  You are not the only person in the world who has ever faced balding.  It's not a death sentence.  I think you have this feeling that everyone in the world has doomed your existence because you're losing some hair.  The truth is, the people you see in everyday life could not give a flying flip about your hair.  Everyone has problems, and most people don't have enough time to worry about someone else's issues.  The reason no one is is responding to you is that it is getting late here in the states (I should already be in bed), and you have been going on and on saying the same incoherent things for many days now.  Do what Tyler said, shave the head, confront your friends, and move on.  We're here to encourage you, but you have to do your part by taking a stand and making a decision.  Good luck!
Title: Re: hi
Post by: frank_m on July 30, 2007, 05:57:46 AM
let me make sure I am understanding this correctly:

the issue is not the ladies,
but
the issue is more if people will discover that your hair is thinning and because of that you are worried they will not like you any more?

Are you concerned about being made fun of by members of your soccer club, and family?

Title: Re: hi
Post by: YOSP on July 30, 2007, 07:10:19 AM
i think this is a horse that has been slaughtered, no offense Andy, but obviously we are trying to help and at the same time be objective...I don't think any response given is the answer you are going to be looking for.

I was in your shoes, honestly, I was thinning really bad at 23 and shaved my head, then decided to try ever medicine, or quick fix under the sun. I was in the military and couldn't wear a hat indoors when I was in uniform. I then joined the Hair Club and wore a wig for 7yrs, at first it was great, but then it got to be a hassle and very costly. Now I have been "sly" for 4 mos. and maybe because I am 31 I have matured and accepted my delt hand, but I do love my look and myself. I am marrying a beautiful woman in less than 40 days and I don't even concern myself about what my head/hair does, or doesn't look like...I was worrying so much that I started to be depressed and didn't know what to do, know, I may wear a hat once a month and only because I didn't have a chance to shave my head...talk about irony.

My point is, everything happens for a reason, this is easier said then done, but believe me buddy...YOU WILL BE FINE!!!!! Besides, in the long run, you don't want to be with a woman that judges you on your looks. You don't want to have to worry about if she is cheating or not because of YOU being insecure.

Life is tough bro, go to the gym, get your body and mind in shape, and the rest will follow, please don't do what I did and allow something as stupid as hair control your life.

I am here for you if you have more questions Andy. 
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Itsonlyinmyhead on July 30, 2007, 07:46:02 AM
Ok I havent read the whole of this thread mainly because it is soooooooooo long so I apologise for repeating anything. But anyways here goes

  Hello Andy, welcome to SBG, the buzz cut looks good on you. Post a pic of how it looked when it was shaved, and also post a pic of how your hair looked when it was grown out. It looks good on you short, I dont see why your so twisted over the whole thing.
 
   I too am only in my 20s, I am 24, I first noticed receeding when I was 15/16, I didnt start buzzing my hair until a few months ago thanks to these guys, I havent yet shaved as Im not ready for it, but I will because I am not wearing a wig or getting hair sewn into my head and leaving nasty scars(HT).  I was depressed about it, I thought girls wouldnt like me, I thought my friends would start going off me, I thought it would make me look weak, I thought alot of things.  But it comes down to the fact, you can have hair, no hair or a dandelion growing out of your head, its how you act that forms people's opinions of you.

So chin up, sh*t happens, get on with life. No one is going to carry you, youve got to pick yourself up, its what life is about.

Quote
hey andy yeah i would go see a therapist they can help out a whole lot. im also 23 and going bald cause it runs in my family but i learned to accept it. i think u look awesome wit ur head shaved in your pic u still look young and everything

No offense as this is solely my opinion but I would probably go along the talk to your friends, talk to the guys on this board, I would use a therapist as a last resort but if its necessary then do it, dont let yourself slip. AND THE MAJOR PART OF MY ADVICE IS DO NOT POST ON HAIRLOSS FORUMS as you will be dragged into their little circle of depression and self pity, especially when your feeling this way, I still post occasionally on HLT and there are some people on there who are stuck down a hole and you do not want to join them.

p.s. since Ive been buzzing my head I couldnt be more confident, and I think it shows as I seem to have more girls checking me out, and my friends seem to love being round me more as I entertain them
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 30, 2007, 07:52:58 AM
i think this is a horse that has been slaughtered, no offense Andy, but obviously we are trying to help and at the same time be objective...I don't think any response given is the answer you are going to be looking for.

I was in your shoes, honestly, I was thinning really bad at 23 and shaved my head, then decided to try ever medicine, or quick fix under the sun. I was in the military and couldn't wear a hat indoors when I was in uniform. I then joined the Hair Club and wore a wig for 7yrs, at first it was great, but then it got to be a hassle and very costly. Now I have been "sly" for 4 mos. and maybe because I am 31 I have matured and accepted my delt hand, but I do love my look and myself. I am marrying a beautiful woman in less than 40 days and I don't even concern myself about what my head/hair does, or doesn't look like...I was worrying so much that I started to be depressed and didn't know what to do, know, I may wear a hat once a month and only because I didn't have a chance to shave my head...talk about irony.

My point is, everything happens for a reason, this is easier said then done, but believe me buddy...YOU WILL BE FINE!!!!! Besides, in the long run, you don't want to be with a woman that judges you on your looks. You don't want to have to worry about if she is cheating or not because of YOU being insecure.

Life is tough bro, go to the gym, get your body and mind in shape, and the rest will follow, please don't do what I did and allow something as stupid as hair control your life.

I am here for you if you have more questions Andy. 

thank you very much YOSP! it helps much to see that im not the only one who has these deep issues with hairloss.
if you wore a wig for 7 years you must have been more desperate than i am now. ok i hided my hairloss for 4 or 5 years. even not good. well lets not compare because it doesnt lead anywhere. but its good to hear that even other guys make desperate decisions out of hairloss.
im starting to accept it now. i dont like it and i still want to have nice hair and a hair style but at the moment i cant change it. maybe im lucky and treatments work good and in 3 month when my hair is over an inch long it will look normal with a normal hair style.
we dont know. but i want hair, you cannot change that and i dont want to change it or i dont want anyone to change it. i like having some hair more than no hair. and i will let it grow  again. maybe i dont look that good anymore then, but i want it. i want to try how it looks then and what i can do with it. please let me this. i dont want to shave again.
but nonetheless its good that i learn to accept my hairloss now. i really much need to see some people like you all said. i will try to get some meetings with people i know and from who i can get an opinion.
its getting better with me even if dont feel the best. i mean, i think you all are open for new things. so i think you all are ok with me letting it grow out again.
but i will let you guys be updated and i will show you photos of me of my progress so you can tell me what looks better and if i look ok with hair.
shaving isnt THE BEST way. its just one way. if you have nearly no hair on top its maybe really the best solution. but for me not. i dont want to wear a combover but i want to conceal a bit with the right style. its always a struggle because you must be careful that you dont overdo it and then have a combover hair style.
my mom is very critical with my hair style...she even told me i would look butt ugly when i hided my hairloss with a combover. but last time i got hair before shaving she said my hair style looked good. well let me attach a photo.

(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg266.imageshack.us%2Fimg266%2F3769%2Fdsc00114bx4.th.jpg&hash=63da3aabd43ecb6a915be007d831d98415d20656) (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00114bx4.jpg)
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 30, 2007, 07:57:47 AM
Ok I havent read the whole of this thread mainly because it is soooooooooo long so I apologise for repeating anything. But anyways here goes

  Hello Andy, welcome to SBG, the buzz cut looks good on you. Post a pic of how it looked when it was shaved, and also post a pic of how your hair looked when it was grown out. It looks good on you short, I dont see why your so twisted over the whole thing.
 
   I too am only in my 20s, I am 24, I first noticed receeding when I was 15/16, I didnt start buzzing my hair until a few months ago thanks to these guys, I havent yet shaved as Im not ready for it, but I will because I am not wearing a wig or getting hair sewn into my head and leaving nasty scars(HT).  I was depressed about it, I thought girls wouldnt like me, I thought my friends would start going off me, I thought it would make me look weak, I thought alot of things.  But it comes down to the fact, you can have hair, no hair or a dandelion growing out of your head, its how you act that forms people's opinions of you.

So chin up, sh*t happens, get on with life. No one is going to carry you, youve got to pick yourself up, its what life is about.

Quote
hey andy yeah i would go see a therapist they can help out a whole lot. im also 23 and going bald cause it runs in my family but i learned to accept it. i think u look awesome wit ur head shaved in your pic u still look young and everything

No offense as this is solely my opinion but I would probably go along the talk to your friends, talk to the guys on this board, I would use a therapist as a last resort but if its necessary then do it, dont let yourself slip. AND THE MAJOR PART OF MY ADVICE IS DO NOT POST ON HAIRLOSS FORUMS as you will be dragged into their little circle of depression and self pity, especially when your feeling this way, I still post occasionally on HLT and there are some people on there who are stuck down a hole and you do not want to join them.

p.s. since Ive been buzzing my head I couldnt be more confident, and I think it shows as I seem to have more girls checking me out, and my friends seem to love being round me more as I entertain them


thx for your response. helps.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: YOSP on July 30, 2007, 12:53:01 PM


 
if you wore a wig for 7 years you must have been more desperate than i am now. ok i hided my hairloss for 4 or 5 years. even not good. well lets not compare because it doesnt lead anywhere. but its good to hear that even other guys make desperate decisions out of hairloss.
im starting to accept it now. i dont like it and i still want to have nice hair and a hair style but at the moment i cant change it. maybe im lucky and treatments work good and in 3 month when my hair is over an inch long it will look normal with a normal hair style.
we dont know. but i want hair, you cannot change that and i dont want to change it or i dont want anyone to change it. i like having some hair more than no hair. and i will let it grow  again. maybe i dont look that good anymore then, but i want it. i want to try how it looks then and what i can do with it. please let me this. i dont want to shave again.

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Actually, I wasn't as desparate as you...I never considered ending my life over something...

WHY ARE YOU ON THIS SITE??????

you don't make any sense at all, everyone is trying to help you and then you keep crying? grow-up dude and be a man...shave your hair or don't, you are the one that has to live with YOU....this is the wrong site, you need to go to...www.i'mconfusedscaredandneedtogrowup.com

Title: Re: hi
Post by: Itsonlyinmyhead on July 30, 2007, 01:23:04 PM
YOSP - Come on dude you need to help people rather than criticise them, if you dont believe me then look at HLT Forum, there are some lost souls there. Andy is still coming to terms with his fate and Im sure he will settle down soon and accept slyness or whatever route he takes, at least he is trying and not hiding the fact.  There are guys who are relying solely on meds which just isnt going to happen. Remember the first step is acceptance
Title: Re: hi
Post by: YOSP on July 30, 2007, 01:52:40 PM
YOSP - Come on dude you need to help people rather than criticise them, if you dont believe me then look at HLT Forum, there are some lost souls there. Andy is still coming to terms with his fate and Im sure he will settle down soon and accept slyness or whatever route he takes, at least he is trying and not hiding the fact.  There are guys who are relying solely on meds which just isnt going to happen. Remember the first step is acceptance

First of all, if you go back and read a couple of replies that I sent, you will see that I did indeed try to help. So make sure next time you do some research on what you are talking about...now you can take your foot out of your mouth.

I sincerely tried to help this guy, but his replies to the help given just don't make sense...
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Itsonlyinmyhead on July 30, 2007, 03:12:01 PM
Ok sorry for not reading your earlier posts, but I still stand by my point that you shouldnt be so harsh, at least he has had the balls to shave his head.
    I know and you know what it feels like to be a little lost when experiencing hairloss, Im not trying to have a go at you I just think a calmer approach would be better.   I find your posts interesting as youve been there and done it with the meds and hair systems and have provided some valuable insight.
   As you said you shaved your head when you were 31 (and settled with it as "your hand had been dealt")  and seem to have everything you could wan t, congrats on the impending wedding btw. But everyone has their own way when dealing with change. Just give him time, as Ive said there are guys on these hairloss forums who are all over the place, Andy is doing fine in comparison
  I think Ill keep my foot in my mouth.

Andy-dont rely on the meds, by no means are they 100% like the guys on the hairloss forums swear or consider a hair transplant
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 30, 2007, 07:16:24 PM
well, if the meds stop working i will HAVE TO be sly bald.

but actually i even can wear a buzz cut. i asked some people and they told me they dont like the sly bald look that good, they fin a buzz cut better.

i think i find a buzz cut better too. and what is so bad about wearing my hair?

im doing better i wrote it. im doing much better. cant say im completley over it but for a big part. i made the first step.

i yesterday met a friend. and he perfectley acted normal to me. no little change in his acting. :)

that gave me much. we went on the campus and i even met some other people i knew and all acted perfectley normal to me. :)

that gives me much.

especially to YOSP again.....IM DOING BETTER!
Title: Re: hi
Post by: champ007 on July 30, 2007, 08:41:44 PM
Hey Andy007, Nice name by the way... Look, I started at page one and made it here without putting a bullet in my head, so here is what I would like to see you do. First of all, get a workout routine and tone your body. Work on your arms, chest, abs, legs, etc. In other words, buff up. Not like the terminator, lets look at Toby Mcguire of Spiderman. Work out on Monday, tuesday, thursday and friday. For now forget about your hair, you like it buzzed, buzz it. You want it grown out, let it grow, you want to shave it, shave it. Take the next 3 months, concentrate on your body, take your meds if needed but as you start feeling healthier, take a little less of them. During this whole time, don't ask anyone for their opinion of how you look. If you stay with this for 3 months and change your appearance, actually control a part of your appearance that you can control, then you take another look at your whole body, and decide what to do with your head.
From one double agent to another, I hope you will at least give it a try, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain! 





Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on July 30, 2007, 11:04:08 PM
thx champ007.

my hair is getting better hahaha.  :px  :)

its getting thicker. the treatment works :).

i think if its grown out it will look good.

Title: Re: hi
Post by: warhawk on July 30, 2007, 11:40:19 PM
andy..... all i gotta say is that i'm GLAD that u r alive & doing better.  take care & don't ever think 'bout physically hurting yourself, again.  whatever u do... whether u shave or keep your hair.... we want u 2 make your own decision based on your opinion only and NOT OTHERS.  take care & c ya around the forum.

WARHAWK O0
Title: Re: hi
Post by: YOSP on July 31, 2007, 07:24:41 AM
Good luck with whatever you decide to do...
Title: Re: hi
Post by: SLYinKC on July 31, 2007, 09:04:01 PM
Hey Andy, I kinda just watched this thread from the sidelines, but I can't let this go by without saying I'm with the rest of your brothers here on this site.  You need to take a good look at where your indecision is taking you in life. Sometimes you've just gotta be a man and step up to the plate and take some risks.  Nothing was ever gained without taking risks.  We are here for you, but not to hear you cry and complain in indecision without telling you like it is.  Do the deed bro, you won't regret it.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: jusbnme on July 31, 2007, 10:46:23 PM
wow-wee-wow!!!   :o ??? :-\
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on August 01, 2007, 08:35:20 AM
its getting better. i was out with two different friends today. makes it better to see that they react absolutley normal to me.

i dont look so much and concentrated in the mirror anymore.

thx for your help guys. i hope its getting better to a point where i dont think about it anymore or nearly anymore.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on August 12, 2007, 08:05:52 AM
to give you a little update.

i got a buzz cut now (0.9 cm) . my hair is getting thicker constantly due to my treatments.

i will see if i can update my photo.

i wear a hat all the time though because it makes feel good.

due to this i dont think that much anymore about my hair, sometimes nearly none and i can concentrate on important things again :).

my life is great now.  and i dont think about killing myself anymore.

i will let my grow and see how it looks. to about 4-5 cm .

i think it will look good by then in about 10 weeks.

thx for your help 2 weeks ago!
Title: Re: hi
Post by: lloyddailey2000 on August 12, 2007, 07:41:06 PM
welcome andy!.well its like this, being bald is something you have to get use to. some guys can deal with it better then others. i been bald for a lot of years, but nature took care of mine. if you cant deal with being bald, then just let it grow back, it shouldnt take too long. being bald is all about confidence and being what you are.what ever you decide,good luck in your decision.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: yep_yep on September 01, 2007, 03:10:07 AM
Hi man,

your story reminds me of mine in more than one way. I'm also young (25 in 2 months) and balding + don't really like the bald look (on me). But I'll tell you the truth, you look great in your avatar. You're a handsome dude and your head shape seems great for the stubble look you got going on. Your defined eyebrows definitely help, wish I had those...  ;). I have buzzed my hair close for 4 times now and always end up trying to grow it back, and it always grows back thinner than the last time. So I guess I should just man up and buzz it regularly.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: andrew on September 01, 2007, 06:24:00 AM
>> my life is great now.  and i dont think about killing myself anymore.

Andy,

Please don't let this get to you to the degree that it has.  I have Alopecia and lost my hair when I was 14 ...   Yes, it was traumatic at that young age and I had no choice but to wear a wig.  Being sly at 14 is probably a little too early.

One way or another I just decided I wasn't going to let this ruin my life (even at 14) and it hasn't.  32 years later I'm still wearing a wig, and I hate it, but it's not held me back from either personal or professional success and happiniess.  In fact, the comment that people always make about me is that my smile never leaves my face.   

So, chin up my man ....   it's only hair.

I'm expecting to go sly forever in the coming weeks or months .... 
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on September 01, 2007, 03:50:57 PM
thx you two!

i wore a hat the most time in the last weeks. now i try to ditch it. because i want to learn to handle balding.

its tough. today i drunk a coffee with a friend and was out without a hat. i met a girl i knew and who only knew me with long covering hair. but it was ok. nothing bad happened. maybe i just need to try it.

its not the same like with hair, but you got to live with it. what else can you do?

my hair is now about 1.5 cm long. but it still doesnt cover my scalp. so i wear it up with wax. i nearly got "short hair" now. not even a buzz cut anymore.

what im not brave enough yet is to go to a club with the balding showing. but im planning to do this next week.

i think what i need to learn is to accept my balding and to learn that people act perfectly normal towards me with it.

@yep_yep: thx for the compliments! ;)

@andrew: great that you learned to handle it and are successful and happy! wow, at 14 and you decided to not let in ruin your life. great!

i should do so too!
Title: to update my thread
Post by: Andy007 on September 11, 2007, 12:25:11 PM
to update my thread...

im doing better. i can walk around confident without a hat, im learning to accept my balding even if i will never like it.

my hair is even longer now (about 2 cm). so a long buzz cut or short hair.

i wear it differentley, sometimes up , sometimes down.

i will let it grow again to 5 cm at least. and i will see then.

so i maybe dont really fit anymore in this forum, but somehow i do coz im balding.

i think this forum is even about learning to accept balding (for those who do) and so is the sly bald look (for those who are balding). i think sly bald is not only a style , its even about accepting yourself and about living without worrying about looks.

Title: Re: to update my thread
Post by: Tyler on September 11, 2007, 12:27:34 PM

i think this forum is even about learning to accept balding (for those who do) and so is the sly bald look (for those who are balding). i think sly bald is not only a style , its even about accepting yourself and about living without worrying about looks.

Andy,

That's exactly right!  Glad to hear that you have more confidence and are learning to live without worry about your hair.  Stick around so that you can help other guys who have gone through the same situation as you.

Thanks for updating us!
Title: Re: to update my thread
Post by: wpruitt on September 11, 2007, 02:14:18 PM
I'm doing better. i can walk around confident without a hat, I'm learning to accept my balding even if i will never like it.

Andy, That is half the battle.  No one likes losing their hair, but deal with what nature dealt you.  I think the old saying is that Mother Nature can be a real "mutha" sometimes!

so i maybe don't really fit anymore in this forum, but somehow i do coz I'm balding.
Andy, You still have a home here ... come around more.  One day you may decide to make sly the look for you.

Glad things are going all better.  Don't be such a stranger.  Check in more. 
Title: Re: hi
Post by: warhawk on September 11, 2007, 03:17:32 PM
andy...glad that things  r  looking up.  post up 2 keep us updated or just 2 hang out on the sly forum.  c  ya  around.

WARHAWK O0
Title: Re: hi
Post by: xnewyawka on September 11, 2007, 03:32:19 PM
Andy, sounds like you are finally getting a handle on things.
Stick around with us, you fit fine. We'll help you feel more confidence, and give you encouragement with any issues or doubts that may arise.
Glad you're feeling better about yourself.     O0


Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on September 12, 2007, 04:31:48 PM
today i played soccer. and it was good. i didnt care about my hair. the only thing i need to do is not looking into mirrors while im outside my house.

i even geled my hair. it makes it look like its only thin coz i have gel in it. little trick. i even think when i have gel in it, i look better.

i think it is good to do everything which helps you handle it better.
Title: Re: hi
Post by: Andy007 on October 25, 2007, 01:01:44 AM
my hair is medium long already again.  :) i like it more this way than sly bald even if i dont have a perfect head of hair.

here is a photo (i used some toppik for the photo  ;) . normally i dont use that crap)

i still hate my hair and it makes me a bit unsecure that its thin but im nowhere like killing myself or wearing a cap. im really fine now. i even go to night clubs again.

the sly bald look isnt something for me though.

my hair is anyway not that bad anymore. i looked at it under bright light from top in the bathroom and even there it looked ok.

so at all im fine.  :)  well the last 3-4 month i was in the hairloss forums again but now i will stop again :).