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Various Non-Bald Discussions => General Discussion => Topic started by: PBurke on June 21, 2007, 10:47:59 AM
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Work, Taxes, Urine Test
Like a lot of folks in this great United States, I have a job. I
work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes
my taxes as they see fit. In order to get that paycheck. I am
required to pass a random urine test, which I have no problem
with.
What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my
taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.
Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare
check, because I have to pass one to earn it for them?
Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on
their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping
someone sit on their butt. Could you imagine how much money the
state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public
assistance check.
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And how much money would be saved if while taking that urine test you had to provide proof of residency.
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tons
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We could probably save a gazillion dollars.
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You know bro... that makes too much sense! :*))
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Sounds good to me ... I am all in favor of it!
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Do you guys pay much tax in the US?
Im currently self employed and I pay through the nose. I pay tax, employers national insurance and employees national insurance. I lose about 1/3 to 40% of my weekly earnings. Think I might get myself sent to prison so I can live a cushy life
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Pburke...excellent point O0
its a shame that some people just don't get it, or even care to.
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Great point Mr. Burke and if it we had the chance to vote it in it would get my vote. O0
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it would get mine too. but i'm sure some organization would say that drug testing infringes on the rights of welfare recipients. or something like that.
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it would get mine too. but i'm sure some organization would say that drug testing infringes on the rights of welfare recipients. or something like that.
Do you have human rights in US. I think the human rights that we are covered by is EU statute/law and basically everything seems to be covered by this. People have the right to live and sponge it seems.
Take for example a family where the parents DONT want to get jobs because they cant be bothered, they get benefits galore, this annoys me as Im wondering why Im paying for them whereas if someone is struggling to get work or just lost their job they do need some help or asylum seekers have fled their country because of inhumane treatment or war then fair enough Im happy to contribute as I could lose my cash inflow and need help myself.
PBurke-maybe after youve straightened this out in the US you could hop over the water and straighten things out here O0
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wanna know how bad it can get here? two examples:
1. I saw a show about how this family was working on the third generation of welfare. none of them worked. all they did was mooch off the system.
2. I went to a casino one time and was talking to this lady while waiting for the little bus thing. This lady, who had pulled up in a caddy and had more gold than a pawn shop, tells me that "as long as i got a quarter left from my welfare check, i am gonna come to the casino."
now these are only two that i can think of off hand. but cases like this really get under my skin. a little help in a time of need is one thing but that is way too much.
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wanna know how bad it can get here? two examples:
1. I saw a show about how this family was working on the third generation of welfare. none of them worked. all they did was mooch off the system.
2. I went to a casino one time and was talking to this lady while waiting for the little bus thing. This lady, who had pulled up in a caddy and had more gold than a pawn shop, tells me that "as long as i got a quarter left from my welfare check, i am gonna come to the casino."
now these are only two that i can think of off hand. but cases like this really get under my skin. a little help in a time of need is one thing but that is way too much.
That gets me so sick. I think I'm going to vomit now.
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1. I saw a show about how this family was working on the third generation of welfare. none of them worked. all they did was mooch off the system.
That is pretty bad, there should be something done about those people. Maybe a good beating followed by taking their welfare off them.
In the UK I remember reading an article about 3 generations but the 3rd were just a few babies. All of the parts of the family were popping out babies like it was the end of the world soon. The Grandparents had something like 12 kids and were on benefits. None of the members of the family had any intention of getting a job.
I dont know how true this was as it was from a tabloid.
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it stinks that people on walfare seem to be better off than the working class something wrong with the system
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Excellent point, Paulie!
This here vid is fairly appropo, then.
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi176.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw166%2Frobmeisterbrau%2Fth_TheRestOfTheStory.jpg&hash=4cda1228f02046fa3bff242dda3089fb7a7191bf) (http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w166/robmeisterbrau/?action=view¤t=TheRestOfTheStory.flv)
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Ok, giving up my citizenship, going to leave the country and sneak back across the border....I'd be better off :/O
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wanna know how bad it can get here? two examples:
1. I saw a show about how this family was working on the third generation of welfare. none of them worked. all they did was mooch off the system.
Okay - let me add to this. I taught kids who were third generation public housing. They have no desire to move elsewhere because rent would be higher and money could not be spent on the luxuries - as opposed to the needs.
I know of a mother who has 9 kids; six have been coached to throw test so she can get the "crazy check" (a federal stipend for kids who have need special education). Each kid is "worth" $605 a month - tax free. The kids are told to not do well in school for fear they will lose the money. The mom drives an '06 Escalade. The kids told me the money comes from the government. When asked where the government got the money, they said, "They don't need money, they just write checks".
The money is not needed. All the services it should be paying for are received free in public school. It's gravy to Mom. She does not work, collect $3,630 a month tax free and gets a new Escalade - along with WIC vouchers. I work, I pay taxes, I drive a 10 year old Jeep, and pay taxes.
Where the heck is the justice?
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My history lesson's indicate that one of the the reasons this is the "land of the free" is that...."back when" it was fairly difficult to become a citizen......
"fairly' is the key word there......
Everyone has (or had) the opportunity to become a citizen.....just play it straight, man...and follow the basic program...huh?
It's like these companies that don't do background checks and drug screening.....
and then have "problems"
***sigh***
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wanna know how bad it can get here? two examples:
1. I saw a show about how this family was working on the third generation of welfare. none of them worked. all they did was mooch off the system.
Okay - let me add to this. I taught kids who were third generation public housing. They have no desire to move elsewhere because rent would be higher and money could not be spent on the luxuries - as opposed to the needs.
I know of a mother who has 9 kids; six have been coached to throw test so she can get the "crazy check" (a federal stipend for kids who have need special education). Each kid is "worth" $605 a month - tax free. The kids are told to not do well in school for fear they will lose the money. The mom drives an '06 Escalade. The kids told me the money comes from the government. When asked where the government got the money, they said, "They don't need money, they just write checks".
The money is not needed. All the services it should be paying for are received free in public school. It's gravy to Mom. She does not work, collect $3,630 a month tax free and gets a new Escalade - along with WIC vouchers. I work, I pay taxes, I drive a 10 year old Jeep, and pay taxes.
Where the heck is the justice?
Because no one questions it, people like this will keep getting away with it :Xo!
At the end of the day, for me, I feel satisfied knowing that I work hard for what I have...I have to stop wasting unnecessary frustration on people that are scumbags, because sooner or later it will catch up to them...
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At the end of the day, for me, I feel satisfied knowing that I work hard for what I have...I have to stop wasting unnecessary frustration on people that are scumbags, because sooner or later it will catch up to them...
I thought that this problem was supposed to have been "fixed" about a decade ago when Bill Clinton signed the welfare reform bill?? :/O :/O
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The system encourages people not to work. Stay home, have kids, the more kids you have, the more money we'll give you. The way it's set up you have to be filthy rich or totally destitute to make it. Those of us in the middle are the ones getting shafted without any lubricant. The ones I feel sorry for are the people who try to earn a living and only need a little assistance. who aren't trying to milk the system. But yet get denied.
Oh, and I totally agree with the urine testing Idea and the proof Of residency. Add to that, room mates incomes. I know alot of people who would put down the whole rent payment amount, when in actuallity they're only payin half or a third.