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Discussions About Being Bald => To be or not be...Bald => Topic started by: drq on December 28, 2012, 12:58:52 PM

Title: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: drq on December 28, 2012, 12:58:52 PM
You guys are the only people I can spill my guts to right now, because I have no one else to ask for help.

First off, I'm in a bad time in my life...no relationships, no friendships, no lots of things and despite wanting to change my life and not feel sorry for myself, this balding thing doesn't help. Some of you guys look awesome with a shaved head, I don't. If I said I did, I'd be deluding myself, I can't keep pretending.

The worst part of this is I'm 23 and EVERYONE my age has hair, but not me, I'm like a Norwood IV and IT SUCKS, I hate it so much, with everything else that is wrong with my life I feel like this is just another big "f**k you!" to me.

I don't know if I'm asking for help, or venting. I suppose what I'm looking for is the confidence to shave my head and just not give a f**k what people think. It's SO much easier said than done, which is why I can't "just do it."

I've been contemplating the hair piece route (because surgery is just out of the question right now), but I just dont want a rug on my head all the time, and God forbid it ever falling off, my life would be over.

How do you young guys do it, especially the ones with the not-so-nicely-shaped heads? How did you guys do it??? With all the other sh*t I'm trying to fix in my life, I don't need this right now, but I have to deal with it...I cant just run from it, and am completely lost right now. Maybe the only thing I can do is live with a hair piece and god knows the can of worms that might open for me
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Frontier Guy on December 28, 2012, 01:08:00 PM
Welcome drq, sorry things are in the pits for you at the moment.

Based solely on your post, my only suggestion would be to shave it off entirely.

Again, based solely on your post,
* your balding is a major daily issue
* you are "in between" relationships and friendships at the moment, so there are fewer significant people to comment on a major change in appearance
* surgery is out (thankfully)
* rug is probably out (thankfully - because how much more stress would there be of it being dislodged unexpectedly)

In my time here at SBG I've not yet seen a "not-so-nicely-shaped-head" (your words) so I don't think you've got one.

There are plenty of guys in their early 20s who have shaved their heads and been amazed how much better it is when you don't have to worry about all the hair-related issues.

That's my recommendation. Just do it and get on with life and the other issues you have to resolve.
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Switchy on December 28, 2012, 01:17:27 PM
Welcome drq, sorry things are in the pits for you at the moment.

Based solely on your post, my only suggestion would be to shave it off entirely.

Again, based solely on your post,
* your balding is a major daily issue
* you are "in between" relationships and friendships at the moment, so there are fewer significant people to comment on a major change in appearance
* surgery is out (thankfully)
* rug is probably out (thankfully - because how much more stress would there be of it being dislodged unexpectedly)

In my time here at SBG I've not yet seen a "not-so-nicely-shaped-head" (your words) so I don't you've got one.

There are plenty of guys in their early 20s who have shaved their heads and been amazed how much better it is when you don't have to worry about all the hair-related issues.

That's my recommendation. Just do it and get on with life and the other issues you have to resolve.
  I would agree !
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: mrzed on December 28, 2012, 01:41:52 PM
Here in North Carolina, both young and old shave their heads. Really common.  Go to the mall, there are shaved heads all over the place. 

There are other young men with shaved heads.  Don't like the hair you had? Shave it off.  Review the profile pictures here on sbg.  Not a bad looking one in the bunch.

We all shave our heads. Join us.  Many claim to have a bad head shape, but when the hair comes off and we all see the sly dome, it looks great.

Welcome to sbg. Join us in shaving your head, too.

Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Lynchy on December 28, 2012, 01:52:46 PM
Welcome mate,

As I be said before nearly everyone worries about the head shape before the initial shave, but very few are actually bothered after the fact. Most people love the look once they are bald.

 I'm also 23 and I love the look. The key is confidence, if you feel like your awesome no one will question the look. However if you walk around worrying about your last strands of hair people will notice.

IMHO you should consider shaving it, just to see if you like it, if not it will always grow back.

Good luck, let us know how you get on.
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: bbcguytom on December 28, 2012, 02:31:24 PM
Everyone can't have a 'nicely shaped head', we just shave our head & deal w/what we are given. I think part of the problem is age-related, in my 20's I was more unsure of myself, too. You should just try shaving it & you will see how many accept you for who you are, in turn you will accept yourself more.
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Sir Harry on December 28, 2012, 03:13:08 PM
Welcome! Maybe if you tried a shorter haircut, you could give yourself a time to adjust. But the big thing is to start realizing that you ARE somebody. If you treat yourself badly, how do you expect others to treat you any better? I bet if you were to post a picture, you probably are a decent looking guy. Good luck and hang in there!
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: alpha on December 28, 2012, 05:13:08 PM
It seems like there is a lot of attention from your "myself" that goes towards your balding hair. That isn't good for your ego. Once you shave your head, you know it's the best look you'll ever go with and it's much easier to go with it (not mentioning it looks awesome!). And you'll be proud of yourself that you've done it. I know it is a very tough decision to shave your head, I've considered it for a very long time. I asked people around, nobody recommended that for me. I thought I had a totally screwed head-shape. Or that I had a tiny neck. But I shaved my head just two weeks ago and I love it! My assumptions proved wrong (my head is still a little odd-shaped indeed, but it is balanced by the awesomeness of the slyness). I get more attention from girls, people are a little shocked but like it quite much! Oh, and I am 22 and don't know anyone of my age being bald. If you grow some facial hair, even a little bit of a goatee, it will visually draw the attention from your head to your face. That helps if you're afraid of your headshape.

I can't remember if I've ever seen someone who looked terrible being sly!
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: OzSly on December 28, 2012, 08:52:50 PM
G'Day drq

Welcome to the forum mate, sorry to hear things aren't going your way.

Read the wise words of FrontierGuy, good advice there  O0
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: MarkMusicNYC on December 28, 2012, 09:10:52 PM
DRQ, I think all of us sympathize with you--not just because most of us have been in the same position that you're currently in, but because you're having to deal with it at such a young age. That sucks out loud.

But here's the truth: you're not doing yourself any favors holding onto your hair. #1, it sounds as though the hair loss is impeding your ability to live your life. #2, if you're a Norwood IV, you're actually calling more attention to your hair loss by keeping what you have. I don't blame you--It's a very common first reaction that both myself and others have had. But you need to know that your hair loss (whether it's recession at the temples, thinning at the crown or both) has progressed to the point that any hair you have just accentuates the hair loss.

I don't know how long your hair is, but if going sly really freaks you out at this point, then I'd suggest starting with a short buzzcut on top with the sides and back shorter than the top or even taken to the skin. That's a classic male haircut that lots of guys have, even those that are not losing their hair.  Once you get used to that, get progressively shorter versions of the same cut. Each time you go shorter, you'll be minimizing that "balding look" a little more. Eventually it'll be so short that finally shaving the rest off won't be a big deal.  

I think you'll be a much happier guy when you stop letting hair loss affect your life. The only real way to do that is to get rid of it.

Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Tyler on December 28, 2012, 11:05:32 PM
DRQ, I shaved my head when I was 25, yet I WISH I would have done it in college.  The amount of positive attention that I got after shaving was amazing. 

One question I have is, "Why do you want to be like everyone else?"  It's people that stand out and are confident that get what they want, like meeting someone special. 

My advice, shave your head and keep it shaved for 30 days (30 Day Rule) and then decide what you want to do.  If it's not for you, go with the rug on your head.
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Razor X on December 28, 2012, 11:17:23 PM
DRQ, I shaved my head when I was 25, yet I WISH I would have done it in college.  The amount of positive attention that I got after shaving was amazing. 

One question I have is, "Why do you want to be like everyone else?"  It's people that stand out and are confident that get what they want, like meeting someone special. 

My advice, shave your head and keep it shaved for 30 days (30 Day Rule) and then decide what you want to do.  If it's not for you, go with the rug on your head.

I wish I'd shaved mine in college, too. It's one of the few times in life one is free to experiment with one's appearance with no real consequences.
 
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Andrei on December 29, 2012, 02:01:49 AM
Welcome!

To shave your head you only need: hot water, shaving gel, a decent razor, aftershave and maybe a mirror, oh and a very short buzz to make things easier.  :)
You seem to want and need a change so it's up to you to make it happen.

How can you know you don't look good with a shaved head if you never did it?
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: alpha on December 29, 2012, 03:05:19 AM
Someone said: "When I started losing my hair in my twenties, I thought, ‘Do I want to spend the next twenty years worrying about losing my hair or just lose it in a day and spend the rest of my time not worrying about it’?"
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Gary~ on December 29, 2012, 03:49:08 AM
Frontier Guy is obviously a wise man and I would listen to what he says -- I've noticed that he usually says it much more clearly than others.

You say 'Some of you guys look awesome with a shaved head, I don't. If I said I did, I'd be deluding myself, I can't keep pretending.' Now, thinking logically without all the emotion, to say that you would be deluding yourself if you have never had a shaved head is just not true. You don't know how awesome you would look [as Andrei above says]. As many of our other brothers have said here once the hair is gone everyone, given usually a very little time, realises that the new look is a great improvement on the old.

There are numerous advantages and few disadvantages. You will be free of the 'tyranny of hair' [thanks to the opinionated walrus]. As to being concerned as to what others are thinking about you -- streuth, it's impossible to control our own thoughts let alone other people's thoughts. That would be a passport to long-term frustration and unhappiness -- wouldn't it?

As to everyone your age having a full head of hair -- that may be so in your part of the world -- I don't know where you are. But in this, admittedly somewhat isolated, part of the world there are plenty of blokes in their 20's that are slick, many of them with young families. Every time I go to town I see a few and we now nod to each other in silent acknowledgement of our wise choice of hairstyle [at least I like to think that that is what they are thinking but I really don't care what they think as long as they are friendly and they are].

Everyone here wishes you well and is ready, willing and able to offer you all the support that you need.
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Bluebriz on December 29, 2012, 05:07:43 AM
I don't want to repeat what everyone else has already stated, but what I will say is that within a matter of weeks of shaving your head, the overwhelming majority of people won't even remember what you looked like before.  Soon you won't remember and you'll feel like shaving your head has also helped shave off the negativity you carry with you.  In fact it might even help if you try to visualise that happening as you shave your head.  You can control your own life rather than letting your hair loss control everything you think and do.

Good luck!
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: mahaw90 on December 29, 2012, 05:20:05 AM
Try going with clippers without guard
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: bennett11 on December 29, 2012, 05:23:14 AM
I buzzed mine very very short in college and kept it that way.   I liked the idea of being different and that I had the confidence of being different.  That was years ago in 1949.  Happy to have no hair.

Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: benlen on December 29, 2012, 09:53:25 AM
You guys are the only people I can spill my guts to right now, because I have no one else to ask for help.

First off, I'm in a bad time in my life...no relationships, no friendships, no lots of things and despite wanting to change my life and not feel sorry for myself, this balding thing doesn't help. Some of you guys look awesome with a shaved head, I don't. If I said I did, I'd be deluding myself, I can't keep pretending.

The worst part of this is I'm 23 and EVERYONE my age has hair, but not me, I'm like a Norwood IV and IT SUCKS, I hate it so much, with everything else that is wrong with my life I feel like this is just another big "f**k you!" to me.

I don't know if I'm asking for help, or venting. I suppose what I'm looking for is the confidence to shave my head and just not give a f**k what people think. It's SO much easier said than done, which is why I can't "just do it."

I've been contemplating the hair piece route (because surgery is just out of the question right now), but I just dont want a rug on my head all the time, and God forbid it ever falling off, my life would be over.

How do you young guys do it, especially the ones with the not-so-nicely-shaped heads? How did you guys do it??? With all the other sh*t I'm trying to fix in my life, I don't need this right now, but I have to deal with it...I cant just run from it, and am completely lost right now. Maybe the only thing I can do is live with a hair piece and god knows the can of worms that might open for me


hey DRQ––I'm 23 years old as well and have shaved my head. It's not as scary as you might think. I suggest you watch a somewhat humorous, fun video I made on my Youtube Channel about my hairloss and shaving my head. Check it out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OckQFO3sRKo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OckQFO3sRKo)


Obviously the guys on this forum are a little biased to shaving heads, because we love the liberation it brings, and in terms of hairloss solutions, it is the easiest, quickest, and least complicated and most socially acceptable form of dealing with hair loss.

I know as a young dude losing hair really, really sucks. It makes you feel as if you life is over. You feel, especially when out with buddies doing stuff, that it makes you feel old, wrong some how, to be losing so much hair.

I can only speak from personal experience, but I'll tell you, in my group of friends, two of us are bald in our early twenties. I chose to shave my head, and though my friends initially teased me about it, I'm not even thinking about it anymore! I'm confident that the shaved head is the route for me to take. Looks good, feels good.

Think of it this way. When you're  balding, you are progressively losing less and less control over your hair. Shaving reasserts that control for you. Suddenly, you have a style you choose again, like your friend that cuts his hair short on the sides and long on top, or the friend who sports the fauxhawk, or the friend that grows it long. Suddenly, you're stylish again. You're making a decision rather than being stuck in constant indecision.

And let me tell you this: While you might get some weird looks initially, nobody can fault you for saying, "Hair loss, I'm done with you" and shaving your head. NOBODY. Because by shaving your head you are making a statement to your hairloss that says you are rising above this, moving ahead with a new life and new style.

DRQ, I will say this: If you really feel like shaving isn't what you're about, don't feel pressured to do it. That's why hair pieces, toupees, transplants and hair tattoos exist, because some guys don't want to go down that route. And that's totally up to you.

But before you choose to go that way, consider head shaving at least once to see what its like. Because head shaving is the one and only hair loss solution that isn't permenant; if you hate it, you can always grow what you've got back.

I know a thing or two about hair loss solutions like hair transplants and hair tattoos. While both of these methods can create a great look for a young guy, the problem is that once you get those looks, you're locked into them for life.

You can't shave your head once you have a hair transplant, or most likely can't, because a hair transplant gives you huge donor scars where surgeons cut into your HEAD to remove hairs and transplant them elsewhere.

Hair transplants also do not stop further baldness, and even if you get relatively full coverage from a hair transplant, you're most likely still going to have thin hair on top and a wider than usual part/cowlick in the back (aka a pre-bald spot).

If you get a hair tattoo, HIS Hair Clinic is the best way to go, they have clinics in New York and England––their tattoos don't green or blur with age according to testimonials, and I've looked at a lot as I once considered this an option for my hairloss. The problem with getting a hair tattoo, however, is that you'll still have it when you're old, when it would be considered odd for an old guy to have a buzz cut AND a perfect hairline.

Finally DRQ, even if you don't do anything TODAY, or tomorrow, or the next day about your hair, feel comforted that you do have options. You can get a transplant, you can have a tattoo, you can shave and forget about it. But it isn't the end of the world. So think carefully!
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Frontier Guy on December 29, 2012, 12:05:15 PM
benlen - extraordinary post.
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Ming the Merciless on December 29, 2012, 12:38:58 PM
I have read--more than once on this forum--posts from guys who think they have a head shape that's all wrong for the prospect of shaving.  This is clearly what the psychologists might call "displacement behavior."  It masks a deep reluctance to take the step of making so "great" a change in one's appearance.  No one's head--as I've said more than once on this forum--looks wrong shaved... unless your head was run over by a truck and poorly reconstructed.

You will, of course, look some different when you transition from whatever's-left to shaved.  Who would not?  But it's not like going naked in public (that I'd have second thoughts about).  In no time at all the look will not be "about you," but just "you."

Take a deep breath, and...

Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: stasiu on December 29, 2012, 01:06:40 PM


hey DRQ––I'm 23 years old as well and have shaved my head. It's not as scary as you might think. I suggest you watch a somewhat humorous, fun video I made on my Youtube Channel about my hairloss and shaving my head. Check it out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OckQFO3sRKo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OckQFO3sRKo)


Obviously the guys on this forum are a little biased to shaving heads, because we love the liberation it brings, and in terms of hairloss solutions, it is the easiest, quickest, and least complicated and most socially acceptable form of dealing with hair loss.

I know as a young dude losing hair really, really sucks. It makes you feel as if you life is over. You feel, especially when out with buddies doing stuff, that it makes you feel old, wrong some how, to be losing so much hair.

I can only speak from personal experience, but I'll tell you, in my group of friends, two of us are bald in our early twenties. I chose to shave my head, and though my friends initially teased me about it, I'm not even thinking about it anymore! I'm confident that the shaved head is the route for me to take. Looks good, feels good.

Think of it this way. When you're  balding, you are progressively losing less and less control over your hair. Shaving reasserts that control for you. Suddenly, you have a style you choose again, like your friend that cuts his hair short on the sides and long on top, or the friend who sports the fauxhawk, or the friend that grows it long. Suddenly, you're stylish again. You're making a decision rather than being stuck in constant indecision.

And let me tell you this: While you might get some weird looks initially, nobody can fault you for saying, "Hair loss, I'm done with you" and shaving your head. NOBODY. Because by shaving your head you are making a statement to your hairloss that says you are rising above this, moving ahead with a new life and new style.

DRQ, I will say this: If you really feel like shaving isn't what you're about, don't feel pressured to do it. That's why hair pieces, toupees, transplants and hair tattoos exist, because some guys don't want to go down that route. And that's totally up to you.

But before you choose to go that way, consider head shaving at least once to see what its like. Because head shaving is the one and only hair loss solution that isn't permenant; if you hate it, you can always grow what you've got back.

I know a thing or two about hair loss solutions like hair transplants and hair tattoos. While both of these methods can create a great look for a young guy, the problem is that once you get those looks, you're locked into them for life.

You can't shave your head once you have a hair transplant, or most likely can't, because a hair transplant gives you huge donor scars where surgeons cut into your HEAD to remove hairs and transplant them elsewhere.

Hair transplants also do not stop further baldness, and even if you get relatively full coverage from a hair transplant, you're most likely still going to have thin hair on top and a wider than usual part/cowlick in the back (aka a pre-bald spot).

If you get a hair tattoo, HIS Hair Clinic is the best way to go, they have clinics in New York and England––their tattoos don't green or blur with age according to testimonials, and I've looked at a lot as I once considered this an option for my hairloss. The problem with getting a hair tattoo, however, is that you'll still have it when you're old, when it would be considered odd for an old guy to have a buzz cut AND a perfect hairline.

Finally DRQ, even if you don't do anything TODAY, or tomorrow, or the next day about your hair, feel comforted that you do have options. You can get a transplant, you can have a tattoo, you can shave and forget about it. But it isn't the end of the world. So think carefully!

Happy New Year DRQ !

All the SBG who comment to your post are very helpful and I highlight benlen's quote as he is your age with solid brotherly bald advice.

Without pictures, we can only assume you can not pull off a tight buzzcut ?  As far as perfect head shape?  I don't have one !

The confidence to razor smooth shave your head takes time and support (we offer support here for free, no gimmicks, no contracts). 

As far as hair piece (called hair system) goes, they do not "fall off" with today's modern adhesive/mesh base undetectable unit that you can even wear as a moderate crewcut (believe me about this).

Most of us who went premature bald speak with experience and true concern at SBG. 

You have much on your balding pate and plate right now.  Take your time.

Please reply back or PM any of us whom have replied to your post.
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Razor X on December 29, 2012, 03:09:38 PM
If you truly couldn't do it, you wouldn't be here posting about it.  The fact that you are suggests that you can do it and are just looking for a little push.  Consider yourself pushed.

It's easy to come with a number of excuses not to do it, but at the end of the day the only thing stopping you is you.  The worst that can happen is that you find you don't like it and then you grow your hair back.  The world won't end or even remember the incident a few weeks down the road.  If you don't like it, at least you will have taken the time to find out.  If you don't, you will always wonder.
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: baldjoeg on December 29, 2012, 03:11:15 PM
great advice is given to you here. Why not give it a try? I am sure that you will like it. Who cares what everyone else thinks?
It is you who you need to please.

Good luck and welcome to Sly Bald Guys. This is a great web site and it has helped me out a lot.

Shaving your head will rid you of the worries about hair and well help yopu to build up your self confidence in yourself. It did so for me.

 O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: OzSly on December 29, 2012, 08:01:12 PM
BenLen mate - Terrific post  O0
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Ozz2012 on December 29, 2012, 08:47:35 PM
I agree with the other fine folks who have posted here...

If what you have is bothering you this much....it won't be any worse if you give it a shot.  You could always clipper it down to NEAR sly to get you started...

I started off by bringing it down to a #4...then 3, 2, 1, 0, 000, 0000, 000000 and finally to sly...and now bounce back and forth between 000000 (that's 6x0) and sly.

I have never regretted it, even though you bet your a$$ I was nervous when I first did it. :)

And because I went from longish hair to no hair, I did get a lot of shocked looks initially...but dude, that'll last a week..maybe two...because people have their own problems, and your physical appearance is only a temporary reprieve for those other people.  They'll notice....maybe...MAYBE comment...and then move on with their lives.

As far as your head....I haven't seen you....and I won't claim that EVERYONE looks good with a shaved head.  I've seen a few people that should (in my humble, meaningless opinion) grow it back...

But honestly....thats a minority.

Your options....

A hair piece?   You can usually tell if someone is wearing one....they're expensive...and there's the stress of "What if it comes off in the wind, or the pool, or whatever"?  And...um....If you're planning on being with a girl ...she's gonna find out....

Surgery?  If you're that far gone already, you probably aren't going to have that "thick head of lustrous hair" that you're envisioning.  Not to mention scarring, and whatever other issues go along with it.

Medications?  Well.....I don't think that the current stuff out there is all that effective OR all that healthy. (Im not a doctor, so that is simply my opinion based on what I've read elsewhere)

So....I think your best, safest and cheapest option is to give the buzz or sly look a try.  I really think you'll probably like it and will wish you had done it much sooner!

You know...with New Years coming.....that could be your excuse!  New Look for the New Year!  That's what I did! 

Best of luck, man.
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Gary~ on December 30, 2012, 01:01:15 AM

You know...with New Years coming.....that could be your excuse!  New Look for the New Year!  That's what I did! 

Best of luck, man.

What a good idea ozz2012. The new year would be a good time for anyone to make the change. You could just tell people that you went to a great party on new year's eve and woke up slick. Don't remember who did it or how it was done but you are going to give it a whirl for a while.
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Switchy on December 30, 2012, 11:00:16 AM
Has anyone noticed that the author of this thread made one post and that is it and it just keeps going  :*)) :*))
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: stasiu on December 30, 2012, 11:06:07 AM
Thanks Switchblade for noticing this.  My reply ended with the following and I am wondering if anyone received a PM (I did not).

Please reply back or PM any of us whom have replied to your post.
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: drq on December 30, 2012, 12:19:23 PM
Sorry guys, I did read every single post made here, and benlen's post really struck a cord with me considering he's the same age as me.

I think I know what the 'right' decision is, it's just very hard for me to go sly right away, so I think I'll take your suggestions and buzz down to a 2 or 1 and just get use to that. Also I don't remember which one of you said it but the idea of suffering for 20 years sounds like a much worse option than just accepting it.

I don't know...it sucks, it really really sucks but the alternative is feeling sorry for myself and that's just not a life I want to live. I will get it buzzed really short either today or tomorrow. 
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Switchy on December 30, 2012, 12:47:58 PM
Thanx, how about some pic's.
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Argyle on December 30, 2012, 12:52:50 PM
Hi DRQ

I am sorry I am probably repeating much of what other people have said, but haven't had time to read through the whole thread.  

I was very similar to you, my hair went significantly in my early 20s and by the age of 27 well there was little to talk of.  I suffered like crazy until about the age of 33 at which point I decided enough was enough and that I had to do something about the way I felt.  The tall and the short of it was that for anyone to feel the way I did about the way I looked was irrational.  Don't get me wrong, I am not the best and I suspect not the worst looking guy in the world.  However I have a wonderful wife, and two wonderful kids all of which came a long when I had pretty little hair.  

I decided to tackle it head on so to speak.  Drugs and surgery were never an option for me and besides I thought the underlining issue was in, rather than on my head!  I took the bull by the horns swallowed some serious pride (I am British, talking doesn't come easy) enrolled myself in some psychotherapy and finally accepted that for whatever reason I had become depressed.  I took some drugs for a whole to get my chemical back in line and I learned a lot during the therapy I got. Now, I am happy, relatively carefree but most importantly aware of what is rational and what is irrational and how to respond to each.  I used to obsess about everything from shadow to head shape to god knows what else, and I would be lying to say that the odd mad thought doesn't creep into my mind from time to time but I take a breath and move on from it now, whereas before it would ave sent me crazy!  

I am not really keen on giving people advice as such but I hope that some of my experiences relate in some small way to how you feel and that it isn't a lost cause.

PS this site was also a massive support!  

Take care

Chris
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: palmerproject on December 30, 2012, 02:59:36 PM
Hey bro, I'm 23 too. And I was scared to death to shave my head. But now I am so glad I did it. I feel more confident showing the world who I really am and that is a smoothly shaven bald man. Everything is going to be alright. Be blown is apsolutely right. Plus why worrie about hair when we have our whole lives in front of us.
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Bald Hobbit on December 30, 2012, 11:58:42 PM
Dude, just show us a picture of your head shape, and if you're feeling sorry for yourself before the shave... you won't afterwards...
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Crusher0209 on January 15, 2013, 03:21:46 PM
Ok well I am going to let you know this I am a few years younger than you and I am still in High School and I have no hair what so ever on my head and I love it. You may love it too you will never know until you do it. You will help your confidence if you cut your hair short with the clippers or just go ahead and shave it all off. If you need any help we will be here to help you. O0
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Bald Hobbit on January 15, 2013, 04:44:50 PM
1# It's socially acceptable now.
2# It looks amazing on virtually every man who's tried it.
3# It requires no cofidence, only will. This is a hill where you find the confidence you've wanted so long after climbing it.

I'm 19, and do it by choice. It's only caused very good things to happen. Confidence will explode.
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: TxTa2Guy on January 17, 2013, 11:46:28 AM
Hey DRQ!

Man you have received an amazing amount of support and advise. You have totally aroused the troops here.

I would like to emphasize what Argyle said in his post to you.  I am going to add some bole italic emphasis to some points he made:


my hair went significantly in my early 20s and by the age of 27 well there was little to talk of.  I suffered like crazy until about the age of 33 at which point I decided enough was enough and that I had to do something about the way I felt.  The tall and the short of it was that for anyone to feel the way I did about the way I looked was irrational.  Don't get me wrong, I am not the best and I suspect not the worst looking guy in the world.  However I have a wonderful wife, and two wonderful kids all of which came a long when I had pretty little hair.  

I decided to tackle it head on so to speak.  Drugs and surgery were never an option for me and besides I thought the underlining issue was in, rather than on my head!  I took the bull by the horns swallowed some serious pride (I am British, talking doesn't come easy) enrolled myself in some psychotherapy and finally accepted that for whatever reason I had become depressed.  I took some drugs for a whole to get my chemical back in line and I learned a lot during the therapy I got. Now, I am happy, relatively carefree but most importantly aware of what is rational and what is irrational and how to respond to each.  I used to obsess about everything from shadow to head shape to god knows what else, and I would be lying to say that the odd mad thought doesn't creep into my mind from time to time but I take a breath and move on from it now, whereas before it would ave sent me crazy!

DRQ, I know exactly what Argyle is saying. While my "issues" did not include hair loss (at the time at least), I was affected in some of the same ways Argyle mentioned. But I didn't get help until 25 or so years after I should have done so. I use the quotation marks because my issues were in my own mind, just as Argyle said, "in" my head. My "issues" affected my self-esteem, created fears, and led to alcoholism, all of which were completely destroying my life. And all of my "issues" and my reactions and "coping mechanisms" were totally irrational. And if I had faced my "issues" honestly before I succumbed to depression and alcoholism, none of the consequences I faced (or rather ignored) would have occurred or affected me or those around me as terribly as they did.

Please understand that I am not saying that I know you are depressed or alcoholic. What I am saying is that when people allow their "issues" to take on exaggerated or irrational importance, then undesirable consequences follow. But if those "issues" (and this is true whatever the "issues" may be) are dealt with honestly, rationally, and fearlessly, then they become "non-issues" as in fact they really were before we allowed them to consume us!

I am also not saying I think you need psychotherapy or drugs to deal with your issues. In fact I would expect that you do not need any kind of treatment other than a little self-inflicted reality check (aided a little by your friends here who have been where you are and "share your pain)."

What I am saying is that you should look at your self and your situation very carefully, honestly, realistically, fearlessly, and with a very healthy dose of humor. By humor I refer to the old saying, "don't take yourself so damned seriously!"

Look at the alternatives available to deal with your "issue," that is, your hair loss. As others have mentioned, are many alternatives:
1.  There is surgery to transplant some of your remaining hair from some place it still grows and implant it where you want it.
2.  You can tattoo your scalp to simulate the shadow you might have if you shaved your remaining hair.
     That does not mean to suggest you get a great big piece of "art" up there like I did (though I would not discourage that!) :*))
3.  You can try drugs, which vary in their effectiveness and side effects (some of which are potentially not pretty).
4.  You could try a hair piece, as you mentioned. Those are pretty expensive initially and forever.
5.  You can just take a deep breath and ignore it.
6.  Or you can buzz or shave it all off.

I think number six is the only one that makes sense for you right now. I think you ought to do it rather than take the option of ignoring it because that could lead you to the consequences and remedy I found necessary. All of the other options should not even be considered, in my opinion, until you have tried shaving, or at least buzzing it.

Whatever you decide to do, just remember that we are all God's children and He wants us all to be happy. You are not happy, so do something about it.  About thirty guys before me have made the same simple suggestion to you that I am offering. We all agree that option number six is the best alternative for you at this point. It is the only option that is 100% guaranteed to be reversible, with no ongoing consequences if you don't like it.  It is cheap. And it is effective for almost 100% of those who try it!

Try our simple program for thirty days.
If you don't like the results, just don't do it any more.
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: Sly Red on January 17, 2013, 12:13:50 PM
Sadly, the original poster has been absent since January 3.  His interest level was a mere 6 days.

Perhaps he'll re-visit the issue.

Red
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: palmerproject on March 19, 2013, 07:35:04 AM
To benlen sorry I just re read my post on this topic. And I in no way meant to butcher your name like that. Dumb iPhone auto correct. (Shaking head)
Title: Re: I just....I just can't do it, I just can't find the confidence to do it at 23yo.
Post by: buddha on March 19, 2013, 09:13:04 AM

I suppose what I'm looking for is the confidence to shave my head and just not give a f**k what people think.


I know this is going to appear odd but try to get what I'm saying in the following.
It seems to me as though you may have just had the great good fortune to have stumbled upon the proverbial chicken/egg challenge. Right now, with all the other $h!t going on you seem a little overwhelmed to begin with. Now throw in the Norwood 4 (I never really got the importance of the Norwood scale in the real world but that's just me) and your pot just boiled over. This has depleted whatever confidence you feel you had before and now you lack the wherewithall to go ahead and shave.
OR:
You could go ahead and shave your head with full knowledge that there are people in the world who just aren't happy unless they are criticizing someone else's choices. They love to rain on other peoples' parades. The thing they hate most of all, or at least in the top 3, is someone who has the ability to just open an umbrella and come in out of the wet. So you might want to shave your head and decide to not give a f**k what anyone else thinks or says. What have you got to lose? You describe yourself as having no relationships or friends so who is likely to leave you if you go ahead and shave. And the act of shaving and not caring might be the thing that starts to inspire confidence. So you just walk away from anyone negative. You don't have to joust with them. Remember that we all come equipped with baggage and that baggage manifests itself in the way we deal with others. So you can hear someone send a jab about shaved heads your way and feel compassion for what they must have been through to cause them the type of pain that shows itself in this manner. And then smile and walk away.

The alternative is that maybe you are genuinely not ready to do the shiny dome. In that case be gentle with yourself and don't rush. But keep in mind that all this is is a haircut, nothing more. It grows back.