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Discussions About Being Bald => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chavster on October 07, 2011, 02:41:42 AM
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...and how can an apartment building be politically anything? :o Its just a pile of bricks :o
In 1982, Jobs bought an apartment in The San Remo, an apartment building in New York City with a politically progressive reputation, where Demi Moore, Steven Spielberg, Steve Martin, and Princess Yasmin Aga Khan, daughter of Rita Hayworth, also had apartments. With the help of I.M. Pei, Jobs spent years renovating his apartment in the top two floors of the building's north tower, only to sell it almost two decades later to U2 singer Bono. Jobs had never moved in.
Politically progressive = full of rich people?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metonymy
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It means liberal.
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And liberal means what in this respect, free thinking, open, etc?
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:-X
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:o
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WTF.
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:o :-[
Well it has to mean something... do they mean the people that live in the building are politically progressive (whatever that means)..?
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True. I don't think I have ever heard that phrase quite put that way before. Probably means very liberal/left wing/save the whales/hug a tree sort of thing.
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I just spoke to a friend of mine at the BBC and she doesnt know what it means either. She said to ask one of my American friends :o
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Means generally to the left on political issues like environmental protection and social issues like healthcare and wages. Progressives believe the government should play a role in making society better and more equal.
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Ok, thanks :) So really that sentence on Wikipedia was referring to the people living in the building, and not to the actual bricks and mortar building itself. Thats what was confusing me, along with the term itself, because I'd never heard that term before.
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Politically progressive is what liberals call themselves when they don't want to admit that they are indeed liberals.
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Ok well if Im honest, if someone were to say to me 'Im a liberal' or 'Im a conservative', then that goes right over my head and I would have no idea what they're trying to say.
Anyway, whether its 'liberal' or 'conservative' or 'transsexual' or 'agnostic' or whatever, I dont believe in labels because I think every person has viewpoints that cross boundaries, so thats probably why I dont know what those terms actually mean.
Thank you all for explaining it to me though :)
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Politically progressive is what liberals call themselves when they don't want to admit that they are indeed liberals.
<---- Big ol' Lefty Liberal.
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Ok well if Im honest, if someone were to say to me 'Im a liberal' or 'Im a conservative', then that goes right over my head and I would have no idea what they're trying to say.
Anyway, whether its 'liberal' or 'conservative' or 'transsexual' or 'agnostic' or whatever, I dont believe in labels because I think every person has viewpoints that cross boundaries, so thats probably why I dont know what those terms actually mean.
Thank you all for explaining it to me though :)
Liberal=Labor
Conservative=Tory
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Liberal, conservative--naw. The "progressive" bit is more willing to try new concepts to solve the problems of an evolving situation. It's more the antithesis of "reactionary" that faced with a new issue will first seek to use the methods of resolution that have been used in the past. In the past twenty or thirty years "progressive" has been identified almost exclusively with the so called "liberal left." But, the "populist" theories have also been "progressive" too. Populist thinking "favors" the average joe over the establishment of corporate interests.
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Progressives believe the government should play a role in making society better and more equal.
Which - to many conservatives - equates to socialism, which in turn equates to communism.
Progressive really is just a euphemism for Liberal
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*whoosh*
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The best I can understand is as follows:
Liberal (or progressive) panders to that part of the voting bloc that tends to lean more toward social and fiscal equality. They also speak at length about saving Mother Earth from the ravages of humanity, using really expensive light bulbs, and driving electric cars.
Conservatives pander to the segment of voters that tends to leans more toward removal of regulations so that bsuinesses can grow and hire more out of work Americans, lower taxes, and smaller government.
That being said, when all the pandering is over at the conclusion of the campaign/election cycle they all go back to pandering to lobbyists who pad their wallets and off-shore bank accounts.
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Progressive is a term those on the political left have gone back to using now that liberal has a negative connotation among many moderate or independent voters or the public in general
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The best I can understand is as follows:
Liberal (or progressive) panders to that part of the voting bloc that tends to lean more toward social and fiscal equality. They also speak at length about saving Mother Earth from the ravages of humanity, using really expensive light bulbs, and driving electric cars.
Conservatives pander to the segment of voters that tends to leans more toward removal of regulations so that bsuinesses can grow and hire more out of work Americans, lower taxes, and smaller government.
That being said, when all the pandering is over at the conclusion of the campaign/election cycle they all go back to pandering to lobbyists who pad their wallets and off-shore bank accounts.
*whoosh*
Progressive is a term those on the political left have gone back to using now that liberal has a negative connotation among many moderate or independent voters or the public in general
*whoosh*
Im pleased you all know what you're talking about.
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The best I can understand is as follows:
Liberal (or progressive) panders to that part of the voting bloc that tends to lean more toward social and fiscal equality. They also speak at length about saving Mother Earth from the ravages of humanity, using really expensive light bulbs, and driving electric cars.
Conservatives pander to the segment of voters that tends to leans more toward removal of regulations so that bsuinesses can grow and hire more out of work Americans, lower taxes, and smaller government.
That being said, when all the pandering is over at the conclusion of the campaign/election cycle they all go back to pandering to lobbyists who pad their wallets and off-shore bank accounts.
*whoosh*
Progressive is a term those on the political left have gone back to using now that liberal has a negative connotation among many moderate or independent voters or the public in general
*whoosh*
Im pleased you all know what you're talking about.
What it means is that we have a government that is bought. They live and die by the sound byte. They only speak to the voters' issues until they get elected, then it's back to making some real money. That's why you folks have cars that will travel 60 miles on a gallon of gas and a comparable car over here is lucky to get 30.
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Progressives as a rule advocate reform, transparency and change from regressive and reactionary elitist governing. Progressives demand justice and equality for all citizens, fairness for workers, wage and hour laws and are against the exploitation of child labor. They are protective of our civil liberties and protections expressed in the Bill of Rights. Liberties like the rights to privacy, of speech, of movement and freedom from search and from a mono-theist state. Some feel that security and health care for our children and the aged is a right. Also that our nation should have a health care system like Japan, Taiwan, Iceland or even Cuba. Progressives will speak out for those voiceless among us. They speak out against those who use fear, violence and hate as their propaganda tools. They see through the lies of corporate controlled regressives that lead us into invasions for their profits at the cost of the lives of our military and those of innocent civilians and trillions in tax money. Where the regressives give free rides and make laws favoring the wealthy elite and multi-national corporations, Progressives are considerate of the needs of the seniors, children, poor, middle class and the workers.
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Progressives as a rule advocate reform, transparency and change from regressive and reactionary elitist governing. Progressives demand justice and equality for all citizens, fairness for workers, wage and hour laws and are against the exploitation of child labor. They are protective of our civil liberties and protections expressed in the Bill of Rights. Liberties like the rights to privacy, of speech, of movement and freedom from search and from a mono-theist state. Some feel that security and health care for our children and the aged is a right. Also that our nation should have a health care system like Japan, Taiwan, Iceland or even Cuba. Progressives will speak out for those voiceless among us. They speak out against those who use fear, violence and hate as their propaganda tools. They see through the lies of corporate controlled regressives that lead us into invasions for their profits at the cost of the lives of our military and those of innocent civilians and trillions in tax money. Where the regressives give free rides and make laws favoring the wealthy elite and multi-national corporations, Progressives are considerate of the needs of the seniors, children, poor, middle class and the workers.
Absolutely no need to shout--turn off the bold as I have done with your post. One problem that is rarely discussed as to the two so-called sides of the political spectrum is that it's no longer a discussion or a debate. Both sides just yell at each other having turned off their listening skills. That style of dogmatic mindless yelling is why political discussions get zapped--and when they devolve to that level they should be. Politics should be the art of civilized compromise. Always try to remember the other guy may have a point and it's your civic duty to find it!
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Progressives as a rule advocate reform, transparency and change from regressive and reactionary elitist governing. Progressives demand justice and equality for all citizens, fairness for workers, wage and hour laws and are against the exploitation of child labor. They are protective of our civil liberties and protections expressed in the Bill of Rights. Liberties like the rights to privacy, of speech, of movement and freedom from search and from a mono-theist state. Some feel that security and health care for our children and the aged is a right. Also that our nation should have a health care system like Japan, Taiwan, Iceland or even Cuba. Progressives will speak out for those voiceless among us. They speak out against those who use fear, violence and hate as their propaganda tools. They see through the lies of corporate controlled regressives that lead us into invasions for their profits at the cost of the lives of our military and those of innocent civilians and trillions in tax money. Where the regressives give free rides and make laws favoring the wealthy elite and multi-national corporations, Progressives are considerate of the needs of the seniors, children, poor, middle class and the workers.
Well, there's a fair and balanced analysis. $c#m B$F!g B$MT
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Progressives as a rule advocate reform, transparency and change from regressive and reactionary elitist governing. Progressives demand justice and equality for all citizens, fairness for workers, wage and hour laws and are against the exploitation of child labor. They are protective of our civil liberties and protections expressed in the Bill of Rights. Liberties like the rights to privacy, of speech, of movement and freedom from search and from a mono-theist state. Some feel that security and health care for our children and the aged is a right. Also that our nation should have a health care system like Japan, Taiwan, Iceland or even Cuba. Progressives will speak out for those voiceless among us. They speak out against those who use fear, violence and hate as their propaganda tools. They see through the lies of corporate controlled regressives that lead us into invasions for their profits at the cost of the lives of our military and those of innocent civilians and trillions in tax money. Where the regressives give free rides and make laws favoring the wealthy elite and multi-national corporations, Progressives are considerate of the needs of the seniors, children, poor, middle class and the workers.
This is one long line of crap.
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Progressives as a rule advocate reform, transparency and change from regressive and reactionary elitist governing. Progressives demand justice and equality for all citizens, fairness for workers, wage and hour laws and are against the exploitation of child labor. They are protective of our civil liberties and protections expressed in the Bill of Rights. Liberties like the rights to privacy, of speech, of movement and freedom from search and from a mono-theist state. Some feel that security and health care for our children and the aged is a right. Also that our nation should have a health care system like Japan, Taiwan, Iceland or even Cuba. Progressives will speak out for those voiceless among us. They speak out against those who use fear, violence and hate as their propaganda tools. They see through the lies of corporate controlled regressives that lead us into invasions for their profits at the cost of the lives of our military and those of innocent civilians and trillions in tax money. Where the regressives give free rides and make laws favoring the wealthy elite and multi-national corporations, Progressives are considerate of the needs of the seniors, children, poor, middle class and the workers.
Well, there's a fair and balanced analysis. $c#m B$F!g B$MT
Right on Razor .... ;D ;D
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Progressives as a rule advocate reform, transparency and change from regressive and reactionary elitist governing. Progressives demand justice and equality for all citizens, fairness for workers, wage and hour laws and are against the exploitation of child labor. They are protective of our civil liberties and protections expressed in the Bill of Rights. Liberties like the rights to privacy, of speech, of movement and freedom from search and from a mono-theist state. Some feel that security and health care for our children and the aged is a right. Also that our nation should have a health care system like Japan, Taiwan, Iceland or even Cuba. Progressives will speak out for those voiceless among us. They speak out against those who use fear, violence and hate as their propaganda tools. They see through the lies of corporate controlled regressives that lead us into invasions for their profits at the cost of the lives of our military and those of innocent civilians and trillions in tax money. Where the regressives give free rides and make laws favoring the wealthy elite and multi-national corporations, Progressives are considerate of the needs of the seniors, children, poor, middle class and the workers.
You are entitled to your opinion sir. It is after all a free country.
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Thanks for the reminder Pruitt!!
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Agreed.... I let it go because it started out innocently and civil. I apologize for my part in it.