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Head Shaving, Grooming & Care => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Chavster on September 12, 2011, 06:09:52 AM
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Unusual question I know, but I'm not sure who else to ask. A friend of mine in Texas has asked me to send him some Cuban cigars. I can buy them without any problem here, but wont either he or I get arrested if I send them to him? :o
I would imagine the Cuban embargo applies even if someone sends something Cuban into the US from Europe, but before I buy them and send them, I want to be sure I'm not going to get sent to Alcatraz or somewhere :o
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Maybe some of our members in the legal fraternity will be able to answer that but my son just bought a couple of boxes in Havana and flew to Jamaica for a couple of days and then on to Miami and didn't have any problem at all. Just sayin'.
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Hmmm, interesting. Thanks for that. I dont see the appeal of Cubans myself but I'd like to send them to my friend if I can, but only if neither of us get sent to the chair :D
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Relax, Alcatraz isn't operated as a prison anymore. Years, and years ago while on a field trip from boarding school, we were passing over the bridge to San Francisco and someone told Franco, a student from Costa Rica, that if he thought we had it bad, that St. Alcatraz was a really strict boarding school. He looked at the guy a little funny and said, "St. Seagull--never heard of him!"
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Speaking of Alcatraz, I used to really like to sit up in the "Top of the Mark" at night with a fist full of bourbon and watch the rotating beacon out there slowly blinking.
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I like to force some bourbon down my throat once in a while too :)
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Been allover Cuba and had a lot of fun, met some fine people, seen some beautiful places and smoked those delicious Cohibas. Usually flew back into Miami from a third country. Customs has checked me only a couple times and all they do is confiscate the fine cigars or rum. If you go through Nassau you'll go through US Customs there. The laws that were in effect under Bush/Cheney have been reformed this year. We can only hope that the 50 year old failed embargo is completely struck down soon. I suggest if you send cigars that you wrap them with another gift, shirt, socks, UK flag and put that on the customs declaration and not cigars. Know what I'm sayin'?
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I do, and thank you ;)
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I do, and thank you ;)
" Don't do the crime If you can't do the time." ;D
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Thats also true :)
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Are Cuban cigars really that much better or is it just a matter of people wanting what they can't have?
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Are Cuban cigars really that much better or is it just a matter of people wanting what they can't have?
That's about right.
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Are Cuban cigars really that much better or is it just a matter of people wanting what they can't have?
Im not sure. Here, they're freely available, so on your side of the water, there could well be an element of guys wanting what they cant have.
I smoke a cigar once in a while (I dont smoke anything else, never have done), but Cubans do nothing for me.
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It would be very simple to go to a post office in the UK and tell them that you want to mail some Cubanos to the US and ask their opinion. Or pack a box in your luggage when you next fly to the US. Are they going to check a Usonian coming from the UK? Customs confiscates the cigars if your caught, they don't arrest...they save the cigars for their politician friends. Have you ever been checked when coming from the UK or Europe? I haven't. He!! every country in the world is against the Embargo except Israel, the Marshals and the US, according to the UN resolutions.
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It would be very simple to go to a post office in the UK and tell them that you want to mail some Cubanos to the US and ask their opinion. Or pack a box in your luggage when you next fly to the US. Are they going to check a Usonian coming from the UK? Customs confiscates the cigars if your caught, they don't arrest...they save the cigars for their politician friends. Have you ever been checked when coming from the UK or Europe? I haven't.
The postal service in the UK split into two entities. Royal Mail, and Post Office. When you go to mail something, you take the package to the Post Office, and they will accept anything you give them, without any question. Its only when the package hits Royal Mail that they then run security checks on the packages, especially those going to the US. What security checks they run, I'm not sure, but I know they can check for things like organic material and aerosol cans, neither of which they'll ship, and if cigars fall into the organic material category, then they wont ship them. Its not a US embargo thing, it would be an agricultural safety thing.
As for being checked, I'm stopped by US customs every time I enter the US. They see a US passport, birthplace California, being held by an English guy that looks like a middle eastern thug, and I think their suspicions are aroused. So I always get stopped, my bags always get checked, so I wouldnt bring cigars into the US unless they were non-cuban, because I dont think I'd like prison food too much :D
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From my experience waking up the next morning after smoking a (1)standard cigar or cigarette versus a (2)Cuban cigar...
(1) Yuck, what is that disgusting taste in my mouth...how can people get addicted to this crap? !*u%e
(2) Mmmmm...I don't even want to brush my teeth this tastes so good, where can I get another one of these? `dr**l
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Yeah but dont forget you can buy cigars that are made from Cuban products, but not actually made in Cuba, so technically they're Cuban without being Cuban :)
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What ever blows your dress up!
:popo :popo :popo
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Well I'd look awful in a dress :D :D
I like cigars. I always have done, but its not a constant thing for me. And I certainly wouldnt pay the inflated price for something Cuban.
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Yeah but dont forget you can buy cigars that are made from Cuban products, but not actually made in Cuba, so technically they're Cuban without being Cuban :)
Closest I've seen is the Cohiba, but not every version they offer.
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I enjoy a cigar on occasion, but haven't had a "real" Cuban cigar.
I remember years ago that Amsterdam airports wouldn't sell duty-free Cuban cigars to American passport holders or ticket holders because of the embargo.
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In fact Cuban cigars are made exclusively from Cuban grown leaves grown mostly in Pinar del Rio. There have been seeds stolen by x-Cubans in Miami to grow in Honduras and also the DR. But they lack the mildness and flavor of a Cuban. There's no substitute for the real rope.
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The embargo against Cuba is just so much political claptrap.
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In fact Cuban cigars are made exclusively from Cuban grown leaves grown mostly in Pinar del Rio. There have been seeds stolen by x-Cubans in Miami to grow in Honduras and also the DR. But they lack the mildness and flavor of a Cuban. There's no substitute for the real rope.
I've had a few Fuentes from the DR that were pretty darn good.
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I agree that the embargo is senseless at this point. After 50 years, it hasn't ended Castro's regime. So it's outlived it's purpose.
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Agreed. It's only purpose from the beginning was to make sure you had the vote of the right wing Cubans from South Florida. Quite a considerable block of votes.
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Arturo Fuente cigars are excellent imho. They were made with Cuban tobacco until the economic blockade by the US prohibited it. They have a long history and have been located in several American nations. Many moves were caused by fires in their factories. The rich and powerful Miami Cubans keep the embargo in force. They make millions of tax payer's dollars keeping it going and they dream in vain of getting their plantations back along with their slaves to run them.
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I agree that the embargo is senseless at this point. After 50 years, it hasn't ended Castro's regime. So it's outlived it's purpose.
Its not just senseless. Its also cruel. The embargo didnt change achieve its objectives, but America's virtual stranglehold on Cuba has seriously affected the quality of life of millions of ordinary Cubans.
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Arturo Fuente cigars are excellent imho. They were made with Cuban tobacco until the economic blockade by the US prohibited it. They have a long history and have been located in several American nations. Many moves were caused by fires in their factories. The rich and powerful Miami Cubans keep the embargo in force. They make millions of tax payer's dollars keeping it going and they dream in vain of getting their plantations back along with their slaves to run them.
I agree with you.
And the Fuente brand is freely available here, if any of you want to fly over to buy some :D
http://www.cgarsltd.co.uk/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=fuente&categories_id=&range=0&22=&23=&24=&26=&x=0&y=0
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Arturo Fuente cigars are excellent imho. They were made with Cuban tobacco until the economic blockade by the US prohibited it. They have a long history and have been located in several American nations. Many moves were caused by fires in their factories. The rich and powerful Miami Cubans keep the embargo in force. They make millions of tax payer's dollars keeping it going and they dream in vain of getting their plantations back along with their slaves to run them.
Amen to that brother.
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I agree with that Amen.
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...and the Miami Mafia get's support and assistance from their cohorts in New Jersey, no?
:Xo!
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I shrug my shoulders. I have no idea. We have enough of the real mafia in Europe, never mind their splinter groups in NJ :D
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'real mafia' was the correct term to use. I meant the Italian Headquarters :D Head office. Central office. The Original Mafia :D
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...and the Miami Mafia get's support and assistance from their cohorts in New Jersey, no?
:Xo!
Shhhh...don't let that dirty little secret out.
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Menendez and I will never tell...shhhh.[/b
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I get them at very reasonable prices when visiting my daughter in South Africa. They are excellent
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I get them at very reasonable prices when visiting my daughter in South Africa. They are excellent
Cigars or members of the mafia? :D
I'm surprised there are so many cigar fans around. We're a bunch of rebels :D
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When I travel to exotic places I love to play with the street kids, try the beers, the music, occasionally a smoke and the local foods...not KFC, the Hut or the Arches, either. It brings me closer to the reality of the community.
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You might need to explain 'play with the street kids' for me. I dont know what that means
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You might need to explain 'play with the street kids' for me. I dont know what that means
Lemme see if I can 'splane it......kids in foreign countries love interaction with different folks for afar...they like to play catch or may need a goal tender big enough to stop a truck when playing football. And there always seems to be a studious kid who wants to practice their English. It add to the adventure and who knows you may be invited home for a hog killin' or some jerked goat. I gotta go get me some lunch, now.
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hmm. ok
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You might need to explain 'play with the street kids' for me. I dont know what that means
Lemme see if I can 'splane it......kids in foreign countries love interaction with different folks for afar...they like to play catch or may need a goal tender big enough to stop a truck when playing football. And there always seems to be a studious kid who wants to practice their English. It add to the adventure and who knows you may be invited home for a hog killin' or some jerked goat. I gotta go get me some lunch, now.
A jerked goat sammitch and some local beer...OMG I can hear the third world calling.
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Oh man! You had to make me even more hungry...and my wife would kill me if I killed her pet sheep. I'll have to go to the city and the Jamaican Cafe'. Yummmmmm!
:'(
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I'd like to start smoking cigars. Been thinking about it for a while. Any suggestions about getting started, what kind to try first?
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DON'T !! Why start such a unhealthful habit? I smoked them for a short while.....just not worth it. Your health is your most important thing.........Sorry I guess I'm preaching.
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Magoo, is correct. All tobacco is addictive but chewing/snuff and cigars are the worst. And they are very hurtful to your body. The health is sometimes not appreciated until it's to late. Food for thought.
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I'd like to start smoking cigars. Been thinking about it for a while. Any suggestions about getting started, what kind to try first?
Truthfully, thats not the type of advice I'd feel comfortable giving on an open forum, purely because its not something I would encourage. I do it myself, but I think I'd be uncomfortable 'guiding' or 'advising' someone into it, especially on an open group where members of the younger generation might be watching, if that makes sense ;)
I'm not trying to sound preachy, because preachy isnt my style :D
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Some good advice from the guyz above.
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Not that I'm a cigar expert or anything, but I've never wanted to give this type of advice to anyone unless I knew they already smoked cigars, if that makes sense. I'm the same with alcohol - I've never advised anyone on alcohol, and I'd never buy alcohol or cigars as a gift for someone. I see it as a type of encouragement. Just the way I am I guess.
As I said earlier, I do smoke a cigar once in a while myself, and I like a drink or two, but just because I do it doesnt mean I necessarily want anyone else to, at least not under my direction :D
I dont have a problem with anyone that does though :o
I know none of that made any sense. I typed it out 5 times and it still makes no sense :(
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Makes plenty sense. At least I under stood it.
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Doesn't really matter where the cigars come from they are a risk factor for esophageal cancer even though people rarely inhale. Shouldn't have to be this way, but if you ever know someone who contracts that cancer and they have been a cigar and or pipe smoker you'll probably never even want to be in a room where someone is smoking the things. That is one nasty way to check out.
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I dont disagree with you at all, however I dont think there's much on the planet that isnt a risk to our health in some way, at least according to the medical profession. Every day there's a new report of something we shouldnt be doing. Next, we'll be told that we shouldnt breathe, because air causes cancer of the toenails (slight exaggeration, obviously). The reason for my post above was to tell him that I didnt feel I could advise him - however, I still believe people in a free world should be able to live their lives in a free way, and as long my/your/his/our lifestyle doesnt negatively impact someone else, then its up to me/you/him/us to make our own choices.
But essentially I certainly dont disagree with what you're saying. I just dont feel its my place to tell another adult what he or she should or shouldnt be doing, because its not me that makes the rules, and at the end of the day, we all pretty much already know its not the wisest thing in the world to do.
What I will do, however, is to avoid encouraging someone (as noted in my post above).
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I can't understand that you don't want people to buy CIGARS ??????? What is the place in London that you own? - - -I own the liquor store
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I owned (or latterly, part owned) a 'gentlemans accessory' store. Walking canes, hip flasks, a few shaving accessories, and cigars was one of the lines, amongst many others. However my share has been sold :D
(which I'm VERY happy about).
Also, I didnt say I didnt want people to buy cigars. People can buy whatever they like, its no concern of mine. What I said was that I dont give cigars or alcohol as a gift, and that I wouldnt advise or encourage them. But essentially, we're all free to make our own choices. I do, and so should everyone else (IMOHO)
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Even the finest quality cigars in the world can be a health hazard. It has been many years since Fidel, quit.
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Sigmund Freud died of oral cancer and he was a heavy cigar smoker.
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And don't forget, smoking prematurely ages the skin:
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi318.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm407%2Frhorgan68%2F_SmokingCausesPrematureAging.jpg&hash=83401143d042f8ded3b046ef3b5be48e29e04317)
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One of the guys i work with likes to smoke them blunt cigars . But for some reason he likes to cut them open , dump out the tobacco , and then load his own (wink wink) tobacco into them . . Whats up with that ! ? . .
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Dunno big guy, I've never seen the wink wink stuff in my life. I wouldnt know it if it knocked on my door, sang a song, and said 'Hi, I'm the wink wink stuff'.
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Back on the original question. During the Bush years, a business colleague attempted to smuggle some Cubans into the USA for a friend who purchased them. The original purchaser got through customs, but his associate got caught. The associate's US passport was flagged in the system and he was told to expect that his luggage would be opened for a thouough inspection every time he re-entered the USA for the next 10 years. Maybe, as someone has said, the US Customs rules on Cubans has been relaxed. But why risk it?
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Well that wouldnt bother me so much. Firstly I get stopped by US customs every time I enter the US anyway, and I only visit once or maybe twice a year.
I was once about to board a seaplane at Victoria (British Columbia, Canada, North America, Earth) to fly to Seattle, but they wouldn't let me board. I was pulled into the US immigration 'office' (wooden shack) they had there, and they started to interrogate me :o
After around an hour, they said they'd been interrogating the wrong guy :o and they thought I was someone from Kentucky who was wanted for a double homicide :o
So maybe they still think I'm a little suspicious. And Ive never even been to Kentucky :D
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Strange, you don't look like a double homicide suspect. I'd guess one at the most!
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LOL. Such a compliment! I think! :D
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These things happen in today's world. Guy I work with has a very waspy name but that name is on the watch list--so he carries multiple copies of his clearance letter--very hard to get---with him, the travel agent has a copy too, so that the delays are minimized.
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Well as always when I travel to America, I had my US passport (which shows my birthplace as California), my British passport (which shows my birthplace as Los Angeles CA), my US birth certificate, my UK birth certificate, my US social security number, my UK driving license (I dont have a US driving license, or drivers license as I think you call it), plus one HELL of a strong English accent, and my accent is so strong, nobody could ever have made it up. Think: love child of the queen and Hugh Grant.
But still, for an hour or so, they were convinced I was a double (or single!) murderer from Kentucky.
Then another time I arrived at Las Vegas airport on a flight from the UK. I was stopped by immigration and they were going over my passport like you wouldnt believe. I asked what the problem was, and the guy just looked at me like I'd peed all over him. So I asked him again, and he said something like 'you got a US passport, you sound like an English guy, but you look kinda Araby'.
Welcome to America :)
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I was on a TSA Do Not Fly List about five years ago. I could not get a boarding pass online or at a kiosk, but rather had to go to a counter where they would scrutinize my ID (I used my US passport for domestic flights!) After sending the TSA certified copies of my birth certificate, passport, drivers license and about six other documents and waiting six months, I received a copy of a form letter stating that the TSA could not determine why I was on the list in the first place and that my name would be removed, but they could not guarantee that I would not be stopped or delayed in the boarding process. The letter did suggest that I carry it to facilitate travel. By the way, the letter was undated, unsigned, and crookedly copied. I've kept it as a memento.
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That whole TSA thing gives me the creeps.
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What was creepy is that I had no idea I was on any list until I got to the airport and the kiosk would prove a boarding pass. Stranger yet - my name is not exotic in any way shape or form.
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Who knows what they use to decide whether to place a ban on someone's movements. Its all way too mysterious. I know it needs to be mysterious in many ways, but they do seem to get it wrong quite often, so maybe the mystery isnt doing its job.
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I'd like to start smoking cigars. Been thinking about it for a while. Any suggestions about getting started, what kind to try first?
Try www.cheaphumidors.com you'll get lots of good info there. Cigar Afficionado Magazine is good, also go to a local Tobacco store and talk to the Tobacconist. He can advise you on a nice mild smoke & how to properly cut, light & smoke it. You should be able to find a good cigar to start with for less than $5. They are great with a nice cup of coffee, glass of wine or sipping liquor like bourbon, scotch, brandy, cognac, tequila, grappa etc. Most don't inhale them atleast not the last 1/2 of them or smoke them every day. They are one of life's fine pleasures ! Enjoy
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Even the finest quality cigars in the world can be a health hazard. It has been many years since Fidel, quit.
I'm not saying that it's not a health hazard, but I really don't think an occasional cigar (and that is all I was talking about) is going to hurt anybody. My understanding is that it's not like smoking cigarettes, which are more deeply inhaled and also manipulated by the manufacturers to enhance nicotine absorption by the body, thus making them more addictive. A lot of people seem to be able to smoke 2 or 3 cigars a month and even go long stretches of time in between without suffering from any kind of physical addiction.
I've never smoked anything before so I'm not really sure why I want to smoke cigars now, but it's something I'd like to pursue.
To those of you who offered advice privately, my thanks. I haven't had time to really look into this yet but I plan to shortly.
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You're welcome to contact me any time. It was just on an open forum I didn't feel easy talking about it. You can message me here, or at gsguk@yahoo.co.uk, or Yahoo messenger, same address.
I hope I didn't upset you. I don't disagree with your thoughts.
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I've never smoked anything before so I'm not really sure why I want to smoke cigars now, but it's something I'd like to pursue.
Google images, throat, tongue & cancers--that's what's out there. If you don't--keep it that way. I've had more people and friends die a horrible death because of avoidable cancer than I like to think about. One guy, avid runner, but had to have his pipel Two young daughters, just starting college after Katrina and he developed esophogial cancer. Ate through a tube in his belly and died a painful horrible death in his 50's. He had everything you could want, lovely kids, a cattle ranch near Natchez, MS., a fantastic house in Natchez, beautiful wife--but he used tobacco, gambled and lost big time. This stuff is deadly--at best if you survive you're mangled. Just leave it be. You're young, you think you're bullet proof--believe this if nothing else, you're not bullet proof.
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I've never smoked anything before so I'm not really sure why I want to smoke cigars now, but it's something I'd like to pursue.
Google images, throat, tongue & cancers--that's what's out there. If you don't--keep it that way. I've had more people and friends die a horrible death because of avoidable cancer than I like to think about. One guy, avid runner, but had to have his pipel Two young daughters, just starting college after Katrina and he developed esophogial cancer. Ate through a tube in his belly and died a painful horrible death in his 50's. He had everything you could want, lovely kids, a cattle ranch near Natchez, MS., a fantastic house in Natchez, beautiful wife--but he used tobacco, gambled and lost big time. This stuff is deadly--at best if you survive you're mangled. Just leave it be. You're young, you think you're bullet proof--believe this if nothing else, you're not bullet proof.
Yes, but then he might be out somewhere and he goes to get some water from an old fashioned water cooler, and into his system goes a mixture of arsenic, chorline and living parasites. Or he might go out one morning for an early morning jog which could activate an undetected heart murmur, causing sudden death, or an aneurysm, resulting in the same thing. Or he might be paddling in the water in Miami / Dubai / Sydney, and he gets stung by a jellyfish, causing an allergic reaction so severe he drops dead on the spot. Or he might not realise he's diabetic, and one overly-large plate of cherry pie could cause a hypo attack so large that he slips into a coma. He might decide to go working on a farm, picking strawberries or raspberries, and completely out of the blue, he could be bitten on the ass by a bat, causing him to contract rodent rabies, and because he didnt know he'd been bitten, he thought he just had a cold, and because he thought he just had a cold, he didnt seek treatment for rabies before the true symptoms showed themselves, causing guaranteed death. Or, he might jump in his car to go and buy some pop tarts from his local A&P and he gets hit by a bus / truck / drive-by shooting / lightning.
With the greatest of respect (and you know I love you :D :@`), this is a site for grown ups, and assuming thats what he is, then he needs to make his own informed decision. You know that I'm not in the business of promoting this kind of thing, but I also dont think we should be preaching to another adult about choices he should be making for himself.
I know you're being kind and passionate and caring, and of course I have no problem with that at all :D but one of the rights we have as adults (and we have fewer and fewer of them as the years roll by) is the right to make our own choices. He's obviously very curious, and sometimes ignoring curiosity can be more unhealthy than dealing with the curiosity.
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I've never smoked anything before so I'm not really sure why I want to smoke cigars now, but it's something I'd like to pursue.
Google images, throat, tongue & cancers--that's what's out there. If you don't--keep it that way. I've had more people and friends die a horrible death because of avoidable cancer than I like to think about. One guy, avid runner, but had to have his pipel Two young daughters, just starting college after Katrina and he developed esophogial cancer. Ate through a tube in his belly and died a painful horrible death in his 50's. He had everything you could want, lovely kids, a cattle ranch near Natchez, MS., a fantastic house in Natchez, beautiful wife--but he used tobacco, gambled and lost big time. This stuff is deadly--at best if you survive you're mangled. Just leave it be. You're young, you think you're bullet proof--believe this if nothing else, you're not bullet proof.
Yes, absolutely...say after me..I am not 10 feet tall and bulletproof.
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None of us are 10 feet tall and bulletproof. Unfortunately, none of us is immortal either.
I really REALLY dont mean this to cause upset or offence to anyone, but I have often wondered how many people in the Twin Towers / on board UA93 / in the Pentagon on 9/11 had dreams, aspirations, desires and wishes that were never fulfilled, because through no fault of their own, their lives were taken away from them. How many of them, if they could come back to the living, would say 'damn, I really shoulda done that before I died'.
In this day and age, I think we all owe it to ourselves to live the very best life we can live, and sometimes, living the very best life doesnt involve taking the 'safe' route. Sometimes, curiosities need to be satisfied, whether other people have the same curiosities or not.
Group hug for everyone :D :@`
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Some things are "might" but it's fact that tobacco use leads to cancer. So I personally feel that people considering it need to be reminded not only of that fact but also see--and the web is great for that--up front what the consequences are. I doubt any of us on this site don't have a personal experience with a smoker or tobacco user who has developed cancer. I also know that when people see the effects, the mutilated survivors and the tumors, black and evil looking, they will think again and not even start using the stuff. Nicotine is a powerful addictive substance and its delivery systems cause cancer. That's a very dangerous combination.
So I know lots of things are dangerous, but I will always take the opportunity to try to help a smoker stop and stop a person from starting--that's part of being an adult too. I don't see this as taking anything away. To the contrary, this is adding to something and an entirely positive act.
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tobacco use leads to cancer is a 'might' too though. Its not guaranteed, or a definite, or a given. its a 'might', because it doesnt always.
Nicotine is a powerful addictive substance Aspartame is too, for many people. As are chocolate donuts and sex, and in one way or another, they can also lead to a person's death.
I am not dissing your side of the argument at all (because I agree with the vast majority of what you say), and I have no doubt that you're acting with the very best of intentions, and I'm certainly not trying to imply that people should purposely do things that are very obviously bad for them.
But you need to let people make their own choices, and there are very few people that want to be preached to. Preaching to the converted is one thing, but preaching to others can cause friction. Even with our own children, we can steer them and guide them and hope they'll see our way of thinking, but a) our way of thinking isnt necessarily the right one, and b) there comes a point where we need to let go, and let them make their own choices, and thats what my posts have been about. Choice, and moderation.
The subject of this thread could have been about Hershey bars or unprotected sex. At the end of the day, I dont feel its my place to either preach or condone. If you do, well, I still like you :D
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I'm bullet proof... I've never been shot, therefore I must be!!
...and I WOULD be 10 feet tall, but smoking has stunted my growth. :D :D :D
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I'm bullet proof... I've never been shot, therefore I must be!!
...and I WOULD be 10 feet tall, but smoking has stunted my growth. :D :D :D
Where you smoking Cuban Cigars....???
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I have a feeling cigars might be easier to send/take into the US than some food items...
Australian Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd had to talk himself out of trouble after airport officials flagged up a suspicious liquid in his cabin baggage - a jar of Vegemite.
Mr Rudd was heading to New York from Mexico City when he attracted the authorities' attention.
He explained that the dark brown paste was his breakfast and, with help from local diplomats, was allowed through.
Vegemite, a savoury paste made from yeast extract, is popular in Australia.
It is similar to Marmite, which is widely eaten in the UK, but is hard to buy in many countries.
"Only problem travelling to NY is that they tried to confiscate our Vegemite at the airport. Needed Foreign Ministerial intervention," Mr Rudd tweeted.
"Airport staff were surprised when I said it is good for you and I ate it for breakfast. They then waved me through," he said.
Mr Rudd is not Vegemite's only high-profile defender - Prime Minister Julia Gillard also spoke out in its support when she visited the US in March.
The subject came up when she and US President Barack Obama visited a school in Virginia.
Describing Vegemite as "a quasi-vegetable by-product paste that you smear all over your toast", the US president pronounced it "horrible".
But Ms Gillard said it was "good", as long as you remembered to spread it thinly.
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At last I can finally agree with President Obama about something.
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I dont like Vegemite. He's right, its horrible. I do like Marmite though. I had a cheese and marmite panini for my breakfast a few hours ago :D
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I dont like Vegemite. He's right, its horrible. I do like Marmite though. I had a cheese and marmite panini for my breakfast a few hours ago :D
Now you've found something even I wouldn't eat unless starving and near death, but it might put me in my grave. Yuck!
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Marmite is lovely if you dont use too much of it, otherwise it can blow your head off.
I like it in sandwiches, or on pasta :D And we can buy Marmite-flavoured crisps (potato chips) and nuts here too :D
Yummy. Not the nuts though, I dont do nuts. Apart from Yorkshire Pudding, Marmite is probably the only decent food the English have invented :D
Vegemite sucks though.
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You can have my share of Marmite--I've tried it and it's a bad memory. :( Now Yorkshire Pudding--love it and it was made in Heaven for a standing rib roast and great gravy. I also really look forward to the Christmas Pudding every year, although many think it's just hot fruit cake. But then, I also like good fruit cake--well soaked with brandy during the year.
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I dont like fruit cake too much but I could eat yorkshire pudding until it comes out of every orifice :o We can buy ready-prepared ones here but they're pretty nasty, and YP is so easy to make, I cant understand why anyone would buy them.
But I will have your share of Marmite too if you dont mind :D
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I've never seen YP preprepared--just the thought is enough to make me wonder how you'd market that :/O. The nice thing about YP, being basically just 4 ingredients, flour, milk, eggs and salt, is the wonderful texture right out of the oven, crisp crust, soft eggy inside, and it absorbs the flavors so well, and it "times" the resting for the roast so that it is just right for carving. Since I like to cook on weekends, I'm thinking it may be on next weekend's menu if we're not going someplace. )-m
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Well they dont really need to market them here. If you go into any supermarket (including higher-end ones like Waitrose), you'll find aisles and aisles of pre-prepared food. America has had tv dinners on sale for decades, but here, its a whole different art form :o. Anything and everything you can think of, from Porridge to a full roast beef dinner. Its much easier here to buy 'ready meals' (as they call them) than to cook. Eww.
As for YP, they sell little individual ones, big individual ones, ones made with beef dripping (fat), ones made without beef dripping, ones flavoured with Bisto (a gravy powder which tastes a little like Marmite), ones flavoured with sage and onion (to be eaten with chicken)...etc
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When it comes to YP, I'll eat them all, but I have only ever made YP, I've never bought it.
The only variation of home-made YP I know of is the type many Jewish people make, which substitutes the milk for water. Apart from that, the recipe is the same (although you missed one ingredient out of yours, which is pepper :D. Some people will use beef dripping too, but then YP becomes heart-attack-on-a-plate)
http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/type-of-dish/party-food/accompaniment/yorkshire-pudding.html
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Looks more like a pastry than a pudding.
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Its basically a pancake (crepe) batter, which is baked in the oven. Its not a pudding like chocolate pudding. Its hot and crispy as opposed to cold and slimy :D
The pancakes we have here use a virtually identical recipe to the yorkshire pudding recipe, except the batter is thinner, and then we eat them (usually) with lemon juice and sugar (although I'm a rebel and eat mine with maple syrup). The pancakes you have there (thick and stodgy) arent really too popular here.
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Apart from that, the recipe is the same (although you missed one ingredient out of yours, which is pepper :D. Some people will use beef dripping too, but then YP becomes heart-attack-on-a-plate)
Right there, a little white pepper, but we usually liberally pepper our roasts before sticking them in the oven so that covers it. Oh, the fat drippings--that I omitted here, but always use--we pour it in the pan before the batter. Heart attack, well we don't eat it everyday. But maybe we should replace the after dinner mints with statins? :D
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One of the joys of the language! "Pudding" is generic for dessert, but Yorkshire Pudding is not a dessert while Christmas Pudding is!
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lol :D
Well I'm a sucker for YP. I can go without the dripping, but I'm always happy to eat YP. I suppose I eat it once a month, if that.
My father used to like it cold, with strawberry jam spread on it.
Eww.
One of the joys of the language! "Pudding" is generic for dessert, but Yorkshire Pudding is not a dessert while Christmas Pudding is!
Yup, here most people will call any type of dessert 'pudding' (for example, I'm still hungry, when are we having pudding?). Those who dont call dessert 'pudding' generally call it 'afters'. Anyone who calls it 'dessert' is usually considered a snob who has their head stuck up their ass :D Yorkshire Pudding isnt a pudding in that sense, because its an entree item, or an entree accompaniment. Christmas Pudding is indeed a desert, but its actually a steamed cake :o Christmas Cake is similar to Christmas Pudding, but its baked rather than steamed. And then we could talk about mince pies which dont contain mince (because mince is ground beef, whereas mince pies are made with what you'd call mincemeat) :o
And to make it even more confusing, Toad in the Hole is a Yorkshire Pudding baked with sausages in it. Lincolnshire or Cumberland sausages usually.
Eww. I dont do sausages.
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Its basically a pancake (crepe) batter, which is baked in the oven. Its not a pudding like chocolate pudding. Its hot and crispy as opposed to cold and slimy :D
The pancakes we have here use a virtually identical recipe to the yorkshire pudding recipe, except the batter is thinner, and then we eat them (usually) with lemon juice and sugar (although I'm a rebel and eat mine with maple syrup). The pancakes you have there (thick and stodgy) arent really too popular here.
I think it's more like popover batter--acts the same, the egg puffs the whole bit up. Those preprepared things--not too appetizing, but I'm more than a little put off by prepared and processed foods--we rarely use canned or frozen anything. I'm more into anything is good if it's properly and freshly prepared, and anything not prepared well isn't too inviting. I like to know what's in my food and prepackaged ingredient lists often sound like they are putting plastic and industrial chemicals in much too liberally. It means shopping almost everyday to get fresh ingredients, but it's worth it for the taste, texture and satisfaction that we know what's going down the gullet. Ice cream--yes that preprepared, preferably from a local dairy. We do use preprepared jams and jellies, but prefer the homemade variety that we're lucky enough to get from relatives who have citrus trees and blueberries. I also used commercial pasta mostly, Dreamfields, with reduced available carbs, but that's for health reasons. I prefer freshly made pasta but that takes commitment and time that I don't always have. Fresh spinach pasta, from scratch is a totally different experience from dry or commercial "fresh" pasta and worth the effort several times a year particularly in the spring when fresh spinach is available from the farmer's market--from the field to the pot in less than 24 hours. :@`
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I dont like fresh pasta too much. Im not a fan of pre-prepared meals at all, no matter what they are, but especially if they contain meat.
I'm very very fussy about the meat that goes in my mouth, and if I havent prepared it myself, I usually cant eat it, and this is especially true of chicken.
However, the exception to this is McDonalds. I dont think twice about eating a QPWC, yet I couldnt eat a similar hamburger from Burger King or anywhere else.
Please note I live in a country where you can buy breakfast in a can. Eggs, bacon, sausages, baked beans, and mushrooms. You just open it, throw it in the microwave, and chew. Or you can eat it on toast. And you swill it down with tea (sweetened with sugar and weakened with milk)
Eww. EWW. EWW
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Awesome dialogue You guys. I enjoyed it a lot.
I quit smoking 36 + years ago when cigarettes were $.65 a pack. This was the best move I ever made. Sure wish that I never would have sarted.
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Awesome dialogue You guys. I enjoyed it a lot.
I quit smoking 36 + years ago when cigarettes were $.65 a pack. This was the best move I ever made. Sure wish that I never would have sarted.
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36 years? You dont look old enough
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:o I just saw in your profile that you're 64?? :o In your picture you look around 45 :o
I think I'll have to move to Minnesota to preserve my gorgeous, youthful looks! :D
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One of the joys of the language! "Pudding" is generic for dessert
"...if you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding"