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Various Non-Bald Discussions => Military/Serviceman => Topic started by: Arnie on May 01, 2011, 11:23:45 PM
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Thoughts on the military completing the mission on this high profile target?
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I am not going to start dancing in the streets just yet. If Bin Laden was, in fact, killed by a SEAL team in a shootout he is now a martyr. This could lead to yet another massive retaliation here at home and I am sure that the wheels are already turning in that direction.
Don't get me wrong, waxing his ass is exactly what needed to be done. The war gods were definitely smiling upon those shooters on this day. I'm just saying that all the celebration being done here at home may be a bit premature.
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Wait...Our president said he wasn't a Muslim, but he was buried at sea in accordance with Muslim law? ???
I agree 100% with Buddha
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I guess the moral of the story is don't piss off the USA because they will get you in the end.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmN2cVOr5W4
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I understand that Navy Seal Team Six was involved. That's a tough bunch of cookies.
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My first reaction was this......
Why would the US dump the body of one of the most wanted men in the history of the world into the Ocean almost immediately after killing him. I'm not so sure he is dead. I believe we have him..... I'm just not sure he's dead.
WHen I see real photos of the corpse with the hole in the head I'll believe it.
Does anyone else think it's odd that no photos have been made public? When Hussein was killed photos showed up almost immediately.
Either way... dead or in custody and being tortured..... I'm glad we got the bastard.
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First thought last evening when we got home from a party and heard--glad, glad in the sense of revenge, but almost at the same moment aprehension that the organization will attempt to extract another pound of flesh and worry that the "brains" Al Zawahiri will be able to maintain the organization. But, it is a very important step. Then, the disposal of the body, that may cause a lot of talk but I think it not only happened but because they had a Muslim on board the ship to perform the necessary rituals, it had been thought out and provided for. Although the Wahabi sect doesn't mark graves at all, there is always a possibility that the location could become a shrine for pilgrimage somehow. Cremation would not have been acceptable either--so although not perfect, and nothing ever is--the at sea burial is the best of bad choices. The existance of DNA testing was impressive, further evidence how well thought out this was. It wasn't a sure thing, but it worked. Now we have to ride out the rough piece ahead and hope and work for the best. I was also impressed by interviews on the evening news with young people in the Arab world, they are much more impressed with the actions of other young people in Tunisia and Eygpt where action not terrorism has started the process of change--and change without mindless violence. Interesting times to say the least. Now I hope to hear that Zawahiri has been eliminated--then I will feel even better.
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My first reaction was this......
Why would the US dump the body of one of the most wanted men in the history of the world into the Ocean almost immediately after killing him. I'm not so sure he is dead. I believe we have him..... I'm just not sure he's dead.
WHen I see real photos of the corpse with the hole in the head I'll believe it.
Does anyone else think it's odd that no photos have been made public? When Hussein was killed photos showed up almost immediately.
Either way... dead or in custody and being tortured..... I'm glad we got the bastard.
These were my thoughts exactly. When Saddam's sons were killed, the bodies were touched up by a mortician and put on public display so nobody could say that it didn't really happen. We may have been told the truth, but he way it was conducted makes it look like they're hiding something.
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It is a great day for us AMERICANS. 10 years of tracking this ass ho** and now he has his 72 virgins. Also lets hear it for the interrogation methods used to get the name of his ''courier''. The CIA and of course the NAVY SEALS are outstanding.
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There are going to be numerous speculations why he was ordered to be thrown out to sea as chum, the only reason I would see this being the directive is that there isn't any "terrorist" shrine if he would be buried in the ground, Saddam's son's where tore up after taking contact by large munitions where they died from initial impact. The reason that the photo's of Osama haven't been released is my guess that the D.O.D. is deciding that if the photos of Osama are to graphic since he took a round in the orbital cavity which leaves the wound channel very big and very messy.
I'm under quite certainty that this wasn't any ploy and that the op order is in fact real, there are way to many conspiracy theorists and armchair quarterbacks *for the record, I'm not calling anyone here those things* that can't look down the light at the end of the tunnel and see what lies there, straight intentions for once and too never give up and make sure when you're ready strike never show anyone your royal flush. I also don't think that Obama would use or mention such coveted and discrectionary units like DevGru ( ST6 ) or SAD ( CIA paramilitary ) for a fabricated ploy, the Seals have to way too much wrapped in there history on the battlefield and despite Obama's left views I know he holds and respects our Military in the highest regards to exploit them in such a manner.
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I agree with what saintc said...
At first I thought the burial at sea was not good, but after thinking about it most of the day, "it is the best of bad choices"...
It gave "them" no time to squabble about it now, but only react. I'm confident that there will be documented evidence "above our pay grade" to confirm that the burial was carried out correctly. Similar to the Soviets burial after Project Azorian.
They already named the ship, USS Carl Vinson...no need to go that far publicly if it weren't true. I'm sure the crew probably wasn't aware of what was going on, but knew something was going on. Now it correlates to the news.
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I don't care if the photos are graphic... they need to be made public. Nothing was more graphic to me in this war than Zawahiri beheading Daniel Pearl on video for the world to see. Tit-for-tat where I come from.
And who the Hell is Der Speigel to think they can question the legality of the USA killing OBL??? Screw them too.
Post the photos so the rest of the world knows that if you screw with us you will wind up like OBL.
Also.......... tell Pakistan they will NEVER get another cent of aid from us and that they are lucky we don't blow their asses off the face of the earth too. They hid that bastard for at least 6 years. Ally my ass.
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Amen on that Mike! Let's see that evil sucker dead. Did any of you close your eyes when you saw the people jumping out of the World Trade Center towers!? :/O
A big thumbs up to our military forces, you guys are the best! O0 O0
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Mike I agree with you 100 percent, Daniel was a fellow Stanford member and student and what happened to him was beyond horrific....I think the Photo's need to be made public, this way that there's proof, I'm sure Al Qaeda will find something like that was an actor just looked like OBL....pic of his head getting a cranial lobotomy and daylight in the backside of his head and the a photo of his whole profile from head to toe...
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The picture I really would like to see, if the head cameras caught it, was the look in the guy's eyes when bin Ladin realized what had happened and what was going to happen, the total--WTF shot!
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Agree 100% Mike, show the pictures of this assho** with his head blown off. I wonder if he sh*t himself when and if he realized that a U.S. NAVY SEAL was about to lay down the hammer on his crazy ass. Speaking of sh*t, is that German for ''der speigel''????
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The end of Osama Bin Laden is good news to me. I agree with Mike, Arnie and SaintC.
We are not done with the terrorist threats. Hope that everyone will be more observant and vigilant from now on.
I attended St. Thomas Military Academy, in St. Paul, MN. in High School. One of our drill Sargeants, that killed in the Pentagon when the airplane hit the building. This is something I will never forget.
Lets hope that the great patriotism of the Citizens of the USA will return in full force.
May God Bless America, niow and always!
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Lets hope that the great patriotism of the Citizens of the USA will return in full force.
May God Bless America, niow and always!
The key to the return of Patriotism, in my opinion, is for the people of this Great Country to realize that greed CANNOT rule your life. That will have to be a movement that starts at the ground because our Government has NOBODY that believes this to be true.
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Wait...Our president said he wasn't a Muslim, but he was buried at sea in accordance with Muslim law? ???
I agree 100% with Buddha
He was buried in accordance to Isamic law, not Muslim law. I personally do not know the differance, but I guess they are required to burry their dead within 24 hours of death.
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Awesome that Osama Bin Laden is now toast!
I agree with Buddha, saintc and Mike.
We can never again let up our guard and we need to get the rest of them.
It sounds like Bin Laden had a proper burial according to their custom. What about the 3000 people that died on 9-11? What kind of burial did they have.
I find it hard to believe that Bin laden was hiding at this place for up to 6 years. What kind of an ally has Pakistan been to us. Why are we giving them foreign aid?
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Wait...Our president said he wasn't a Muslim, but he was buried at sea in accordance with Muslim law? ???
I agree 100% with Buddha
He was buried in accordance to Isamic law, not Muslim law. I personally do not know the differance, but I guess they are required to burry their dead within 24 hours of death.
I love it, it's truly remarkable when we take this course with full intent of discretionary action, turn his head into a Jackson Pollock masterpiece and then give him a traditional Islamic burial....WTF, I truly wish that somebody just kicked his carcass of the bow.
Is someone wrong with this picture, we hunted him down and then bury him with a sense of dignity....just fu!@#ng brilliant.
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we hunted him down and then bury him with a sense of dignity....just fu!@#ng brilliant.
IMO, we do that because that's who we, as a nation and civilization, are. We don't behead prisoners on film or tape, we respect others. We respect the dignity of man and no one, no matter how brutal they may have been, will make us stoop to their level when we win--that's why in the end we will win.
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Well I hope when they washed him prior to his being put deep six, it was with PIG FAT. >:D
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Thanks for capping him America, sincerely appreciate that.
Knowing sailors I would imagine they chummed the water for sharks before chucking him in and quite probably took bets on which one would go for him first.
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Wow...you should have seen my FB post on this...it went nuts!!!
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we hunted him down and then bury him with a sense of dignity....just fu!@#ng brilliant.
IMO, we do that because that's who we, as a nation and civilization, are. We don't behead prisoners on film or tape, we respect others. We respect the dignity of man and no one, no matter how brutal they may have been, will make us stoop to their level when we win--that's why in the end we will win.
I know Saint, you're right....just blowing off the steam.
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“Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of men. Blood, whips and guns–or dollars. Take your choice–there is no other–and your time is running out.” ~Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
As for burying OBL at sea. Where would you like him buried? Who wants him? You want him in your backyard?
And the fact that the Islamo-Facists publicly display their executions is exactly why we shouldn't. If we're no better than them, what's the freaking point?
I didn't do a happy dance, but I did feel a bit like justice was finally served. I lost friends at Kobar. We all were wounded on 9/11. The man needed killin' like none in a very long time. I will not mourn for him.
If he WAS captured rather than killed, so? What do you think you're going to do about it? Demand he get his rights? He has no rights. He's set himself up to be a non-warrior, and non-criminal, a non-person. HE did that. All I care about is that he's no longer "alive" to be a boogie-man.
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Did I hear right, 24 SEALS on 2 helicopters.?
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I didn't do a happy dance, but I did feel a bit like justice was finally served.
Sorry to hear of your loss of friends, Timmer.
To be honest, the dancing in the streets shown on the news Sunday night sickened me. Am I glad the world is ridden of this evil dude? Certainly. However, as others have pointed out (Saint, etc.), we are better than that.
I'm still troubled by the lack of disclosure of photos on behalf of B. Hussein's administration. They had no problem revealing photos of Abu Grahib, but the death of Bin Laden is off limits? ???
Did I want to see the photos? No, but I know many that did. Personally, I think Bin Laden should have been captured and dropped from 1,000 feet (or whatever the height of the World Trade Center was), so he can feel what others felt on 9/11 jumping out of the building.
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A majority of the people that I saw whooping it up were very young and were probably using it as an excuse to party.
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AND THATS THAT !