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Discussions About Being Bald => To be or not be...Bald => Topic started by: Hotpocket on January 05, 2011, 11:45:29 PM
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Yeah, so I'm 19. Found out I had MPB when I was 16 from a dermatologist. That really sucked and was kind of a shocker but it wasn't really noticeable so long as I had my hair at a shorter length so I wasn't too worried about it. Now though, it's really starting to set in. It's mainly just thinning right now but it bugs the hell out of me. I used to have great long hair but those are days of the past now :(
Soo I'm not really sure what to do here. I've been using rogaine to try and help maintain what I have but I can tell my hair is going slowly but surely. I've been thinking about getting a prescription for Propecia but some of the side effects scare the sh*t out of me. I'll take being able to have sex over hair any day.
Has anyone tried Propecia and have any comments on it?
Here's a recent picture from Christmas
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1187.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz392%2FChubach%2FIMG_3869.jpg&hash=bd1ebdc76b33d48d38aa24581619251fb0ea2011)
As you can see it's thinning on the top, and I was laughing at a bottle of champagne I got from our family's white elephant ;D
Any thoughts my sly's?
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I, for one, say GO FOR IT!!
After all, if you decide you don't like being totally shaven (sly), you have enough of a crop on your melon whereby you'll be back to where you are currently in a few weeks.
Let me just say this, Going SLY is FREEDOM. There's NOTHING else like it. No rugs, plugs, or drugs to worry about - just PURE FREEDOM!
Don't want to shave all the way down to the scalp? Ease into it. Use clippers with no guard and buzz your hair down as much as you can. Keep it buzzed down at that length for about a a week to get accustomed to it. Then gradually, ease yourself into the next step, which is going totally SLY.
You've got nothing to lose but your hair (and as mentioned, if SLY isn't your thing, regrowth to where you are now will return in two-three weeks or so.
Check out "Tyler's 30-Day Rule" video on our forum here. (the link to the vid should be listed somewhere on the main forum page).
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Just read an article that Tyler Smith (moderator and founder of SBG) wrote on why men should NOT FEAR going BALD. You should read this, dude. It'll put thngs in perspective for you.
Check it out here: http://www.helium.com/tm/100895
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Has anyone tried Propecia and have any comments on it?
Read up on what that poison can do to your body. Then decide if something frivolous like hair is worth it.
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I took propecia for years and it did absolutely nothing. My hair continued to thin. I kept taking it because I thought that it was perhaps slowing the rate of thinning/ balding. It wasn't. You've been given good advice that I wish I had heard when I was about your age. I would recommend going gradually shorter and shorter. Get used to having shorter and shorter hair. You can stretch this out over weeks or months depending on your comfort level. Eventually you'll reach the point where you'll be comfortable enough to just shave it all off or at least go down to a clippers with no guard.
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Has anyone tried Propecia and have any comments on it?
Read up on what that poison can do to your body. Then decide if something frivolous like hair is worth it.
Bingo!
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Yeah I've done quite a bit of research on propecia. It seems for some it really works well and others a possible life ruiner. I suppose the only reason I'm even considering it would be for the ladies. I really wouldn't mind being bald but at 19 it's a little difficult and it definitely does reduce the playing field. Not to mention I'm only 5'9 and 140 lbs (not from a lack of trying. I got screwed on the genetics) and the outlook just doesn't seem that great. I just wish this had happened like 10 years from now when I've got my life set up then I probably wouldn't care.
I want to shave it... but I'm afraid :XX
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If you think in the long run you're going to be bald, I'd skip trying to delay it by using propecia or any other method, and keep your hair short until you're ready to shave it off completely. I was also thinning at age 19 and can remember the anxiety I had about being different. At the time, no one was shaving their head that I knew of so that wasn't an option but I think even if it had been something guys were doing, I would have waited until I was a bit older to do it. I'd say gradually work into it and keep your hair short until you think it's time to shave it.
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the only reason I'm even considering it would be for the ladies.
So you're considering a drug that can make you impotent? Really?
Sounds like a "Gift of the Magi" (O Henry) situation.
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MPB is not about age, it's not about environment or habits. It's not about what's fair or easy. It's a matter of genetics. it is a fact of nature. Some people are heavier than others, some taller, some shorter. Some people go grey far earlier than others. And some go bald.
A lot of men find the transition from balding to shaved a kind of tough one to make. But by and large, most of the guys who try it, like it and ultimately keep it shaved. And, if the guys here are any barometer (and we are), most wish they'd made the change sooner than they did.
You are 19. You have many many years ahead of you. You might want to at least try the SLY way out, take the 30 day challenge, sooner than later. Give the freedom and confidence a test drive and see if you still feel like taking drugs or getting surgery to try and slow down the inevitable. You might just find out what a lot of men here and around the world found out later in life. SLY is the way to go.
Good luck with whatever you decide. These guys are among the greatest you'll find and they give great advice and support. Welcome abord, we're here for whatever.
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MPB is not about age, it's not about environment or habits. It's not about what's fair or easy. It's a matter of genetics. it is a fact of nature. Some people are heavier than others, some taller, some shorter. Some people go grey far earlier than others. And some go bald.
A lot of men find the transition from balding to shaved a kind of tough one to make. But by and large, most of the guys who try it, like it and ultimately keep it shaved. And, if the guys here are any barometer (and we are), most wish they'd made the change sooner than they did.
You are 19. You have many many years ahead of you. You might want to at least try the SLY way out, take the 30 day challenge, sooner than later. Give the freedom and confidence a test drive and see if you still feel like taking drugs or getting surgery to try and slow down the inevitable. You might just find out what a lot of men here and around the world found out later in life. SLY is the way to go.
Good luck with whatever you decide. These guys are among the greatest you'll find and they give great advice and support. Welcome abord, we're here for whatever.
Yeah, I'm aware that it comes down to genetics and I'm really fine with that, it's just that it particularly sucks at my age. Hair transplant was never in my consideration and more and more I'm learning how potentially harmful propecia can be. I might do the 30 day challenge just to see but I'm going to weigh my options first.
I definitely like the community and I'll be a part of it some day, just not quite sure when. :D
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You're here and engaged. You're already part of the community. Welcome!
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Hey Hotpocket. It really does suck to start loosing your hair at such a young age. I was only a bit older than you, 20, when my hair started to go. It sounds like you have a pretty good attitude about it though.
I started taking rogaine at age 20 and propecia shortly after, and took them for a few years. I got absolutely nothing out of them. The truth is rogaine, propecia and surgeries only work on a very small portion of the balding population. The guys in this very marginal section where their hair is falling out very slowly and only to a small degree, might get a small, temporary improvement. Most people don't fall into this category and the fact that you are losing your hair at a young age (like me) means it is going and there is nothing to stop it or probably even slow it.
I'm glad that I realized this at a young age and got off the drugs. I also knew that surgeries wouldn't work for me either (not enough hair). Unfortunately, at age 23 I got a hairpiece and wore that for 10 years before going sly a month ago (love it). You won't find many people who would go the rug route if they had to do it all again, and that includes me. They are a huge pain in the ass, they don't look all that great and they are expensive as hell. In hindsight, I just wish I had kept going shorter and shorter then started to shave when I felt that I would like that better.
It really does stink, but I recommend trimming it down more and more, until there is nothing left. There are some young guys on the forum too and hopefully they see this thread and weigh in.
Good luck, it's not the end of the world!
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Propecia along with Avodart ( Dutasteride ) come at a heavy toll IMO, it's pretty much a DHT inhibitor/Killer, I've said many times along with BootedBear that it's poison.
DHT is the most critical hormone for a male, it is what provides and gives you all your male characteristics so imagine what something like Propecia will do to a full healthy male, it will kill your manhood ( literally ) the side effects are horrific to say the least, loss of muscle mass, gyno, huge libido loss and depression, also there has been numerous reports of suicide.
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HotPocket, welcome to the best bald forum on the Internet O0
If you look around at what the media and world tell you, and then come here, you should see that what is being said here is the truth. You won't get that in most other places. The companies of the world want your money. The folks here want to give you your freedom. A chance to start a better mental life. Yeah, you'll probably end up cutting shorter and shorter, and at some point shave. So why prolong the mental anguish. Do the deed. Belly up to the bar. Man up. Whatever the phrase you want to use. It's up to you.
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I know that a lot of the guys on the forum will disagree with me on this issue but I will proceed anyway.
Propecia is not "poison" anymore that ibuprofen, birth control or any other drug. All drugs alter your blood chemistry to some degree and all drugs have side effects. Propecia is a heavily researched drug and multiple studies show it is an effective treatment for benign prostatic hyperplasia and androgenetic alopecia with minimal side effects in the MAJORITY of people. Multiple randomized double blind, placebo controlled trials (i.e., the "gold standard" in science) have been carried out on propecia, and time after time, 98% of men who take it experience no side effects.
Now, some men legitimately do experience side effects, but you have to remember this is only 2% of men who take it and even then, for most of them, the side effects disappear after use has ceased. It is up to you and your doctor if the benefit of propecia outweigh the risks. A small percentage of people are severely allergic to aspirin, but that doesn't mean no one should take aspirin.
So you can trust science or you can trust "pseudo-internet scientists" who have no evidence to back up their claims other than "they just think it is poison."
With all that being said, I personally don't think taking propecia is a good thing to do for two reasons. First, it will only slow down your hair loss and not prevent it. I think it is a much better idea to deal with the issue NOW rather than take a drug that will only postpone the inevitable. Even if you take propecia, you will still obsess over your hair and think about it all the time. Also, the placebo effect is a real side effect. In other words, if you think you will have impotence or loss of libido, you most likely will. Not as a result of propecia, but as a result of your psychological self-fulfilling prophecy.
Second, I like to put as few drugs in my body as possible. That goes for OTC pain relievers, allergy medicines, and antibiotics. Only take drugs when it is necessary and be well informed about what you are putting in your body. Personally, I don't think taking propecia is necessary and therefore I don't take it.
Instead of thinking you need hair in order to be fully confident, live a healthy lifestyle (e.g., gym and healthy diet), be a genuine person and learn everything you can. Those things will do infinitely more for your confidence and well being than taking a pill to hold on to something you are going to lose anyway.
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Well thanks for all the helpful info and words of encouragement. I made a step today in becoming sly. I cut it down to an eighth an inch all around and in all honesty it was my mom who was doing all the freaking out, not me. I'm kind of sporting a 'bad ass' look at the moment and I don't think it looks too bad. It helped me not look like I'm even thinning.
So all's good for now. With any luck I'll keep what I have for a few years.
I'm still unsure about the whole propecia deal. I still have to talk to my dermatologist yet so we'll see after that. On the whole it sounds pretty unappealing to me though.
Not sure about the cons yet of having my head buzzed this short, but one pro is I love the way it feels. It's spiky yet soft. :@`
Cheers
Hotpocket
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Propecia is not "poison" anymore that ibuprofen, birth control or any other drug.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. But personally, I wouldn't let that sh*t anywhere near my body.
I think comparing ibuprofen to propecia is like comparing a dental x-ray to nuclear fallout. After all, they're both just radiation, right?
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Propecia is not "poison" anymore that ibuprofen, birth control or any other drug.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. But personally, I wouldn't let that sh*t anywhere near my body.
I think comparing ibuprofen to propecia is like comparing a dental x-ray to nuclear fallout. After all, they're both just radiation, right?
I really don't understand your x-ray and nuclear fallout analogy. Are you trying to say that propecia is worse for you than ibuprofen or any other drug for that matter? If you are, why? What evidence do you have to prove that? Sure, propecia alters hormone levels, but not outside of normal ranges. The only hormone it does alter outside of normal range is DHT, and it has been shown this is not detrimental, even in studies up to 7 years. As a matter of fact, many people have naturally low levels of DHT and they are fully functioning healthy adults.
You are calling propecia "sh*t" without any credible evidence that it is "sh*t." I respect your choice not to put in your body (which is my choice too), but to call it a "poison" and "sh*t" when all signs point to it not being so, is misleading and uninformed.
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I made a step today in becoming sly. I cut it down to an eighth an inch all around and in all honesty it was my mom who was doing all the freaking out, not me. I'm kind of sporting a 'bad ass' look at the moment and I don't think it looks too bad. It helped me not look like I'm even thinning.
Hotpocket. Over the years as my MPB progressed, my wife would always tell me that the shorter I kept my hair, the more it looked like I had more of it. Based on your photo, it looks like you may still have several years of hair left in you. Wear it as short as you can stand it until you're ready to go Sly. As you make your way, notice the Sly guys around you. There are alot of young guys that shave their heads. Its a popular and fashionable look that fits men of all ages. Be cool and good luck!
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the only reason I'm even considering it would be for the ladies.
So you're considering a drug that can make you impotent? Really?
Sounds like a "Gift of the Magi" (O Henry) situation.
The Wise Bear makes a great literary analogy!!!
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Forget the side effects for a moment; the fact that you will have to take and pay for these drugs for the rest of your life, for what in most cases yields only minimal results, is reason enough to shy away from them. Save your money for something more worthwhile.
I was about 20 years old when I first noticed that my hairline was receding; which means that it probably started a year or two earlier than that. It progressed very slowly; I didn't shave my head for the first time until I was 33, though in retrospect, I probably should have done it a year or two earlier. Your photo looks like you've still got a decent amount of hair left, so I really wouldn't worry about it for now, if I were you. I'll just repeat the advice that others have already given you: cut your hair as short as you feel comfortable with; it draws attention away from the thinning areas. Go progressively shorter as the thinning continues. Getting used to wearing very short hair will make it a lot easier to make the transition to shaved if and when you decide to go that route.
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A word on the Propecia topic...... Here at SBG we espouse the "No rugs, No plugs, No drugs" side of the equation. If you feel so strongly about the use pf Propecia being a good thing you may be on the wrong Forum.
Don't get me wrong... you are welcome here of course but if your philosophy is strongly Pro-drug you may just be in the wrong place.
Peace
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A word on the Propecia topic...... Here at SBG we espouse the "No rugs, No plugs, No drugs" side of the equation. If you feel so strongly about the use pf Propecia being a good thing you may be on the wrong Forum.
Don't get me wrong... you are welcome here of course but if your philosophy is strongly Pro-drug you may just be in the wrong place.
Peace
Quite the contrary, I am anti-drug. However, I believe that everyone should make informed decisions based on the best available evidence. It is better for a guy to say "I am fully educated and aware of propecia based on discussions with my doctor and the latest scientific evidence, but I choose to shave my head." Rather than "I don't really know anything about propecia except it is "poison" and "sh*t." I am going to shave my head."
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Side effects of finasteride include impotence (1.1% to 18.5%), abnormal ejaculation (7.2%), decreased ejaculatory volume (0.9% to 2.8%), abnormal sexual function (2.5%), gynecomastia (2.2%), erectile dysfunction (1.3%), ejaculation disorder (1.2%) and testicular pain.
No thanks.
(Quote from Wikipedia.)
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http://www.propeciasideeffects.com/
I think you should look at this, not only are there devastating consequences they. don't go after you stop takin the drug, also be aware it only works for certain people...
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Gee, if someone werre to tell me that I might be able to grow some hair for a few years but I'd have a 1 in 4, or 1 in 3 chance of screwing up my sex life PERMANENTLTY, I'd have to think long and hard about that one! Am I really THAT vain, that I need hair? ??? :/O
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Well, I wouldn't consider Wikipedia and an internet forum the most trustworthy sources of information on propecia. And with regards to propeciasideeffects.com, I due believe that some men have problems with propecia, but that is a very small percent of men. And even then, almost all men who have side effects and then stop taking it, the side effects go away.
I would bet a majority of the men on propeciasideefeffect.com suffer from the placebo effect and are freaking out. Millions of men take propecia, it works, and they are healthy. Again, taking any drug has its risks and propecia is no different.
The last thing I will say about this issue is this: you can trust science or you can trust anecdotal stories and internet pseudo-scientists. Your call.
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I disagree, you can't always trust science and you definitely can't always trust drug companies. Sometimes drug companies are less interested in advancing science and more concerned with turngin a profit/
For info the information detailed on propeciasideeffects was not anecdotal - it came from a pretty reliable source - the Food and Drug Administration...
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zed, got a link or a quote from their website? There are so many lies and partial truths on the Internet that some people won't even believe if you show them the website. But then, some people like playing Russian Roulette with their per, er um, pe, um personals! :o
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I can't remember where exactly I found this, in Europe it was finally concluded recently that some side effects of propecia are PERMANENT (like impotence). You might fool yourself into believing that once you stop taking such sh*t your body will go back to normal. Sorry, it's not that easy my friend. A powerful drug like that has irreversable side effects. One day when enough men have been ......by that drug permanently then the FDA and blablabla will come out saying side effects are permanent. Remember, that's how it works with drugs.
If you think the people on propeciasideeffects have unreliable stories, I challenge you to find a forum or a group of individiuals who are enjoying life while taking propecia for at least 5 years. Please do, find me some guys who are happy with it after 5 to 10 years and then we will talk.
Guess what? You won't!!!
Well, I wouldn't consider Wikipedia and an internet forum the most trustworthy sources of information on propecia. And with regards to propeciasideeffects.com, I due believe that some men have problems with propecia, but that is a very small percent of men. And even then, almost all men who have side effects and then stop taking it, the side effects go away.
I would bet a majority of the men on propeciasideefeffect.com suffer from the placebo effect and are freaking out. Millions of men take propecia, it works, and they are healthy. Again, taking any drug has its risks and propecia is no different.
The last thing I will say about this issue is this: you can trust science or you can trust anecdotal stories and internet pseudo-scientists. Your call.
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I took that crap for 4 years It did nothing for my hair loss. Maybe it slowed it my a few nanoseconds idk. I was perfectly normal as a man for that time period, though. If I remember correctly I was actually taking a drug that promotes prostate health - finesteride? My father is a physician and he is generally ridiculously cautious about medications. He HATES medications unless absolutely necessary. He was the one who wrote me the prescription - a few years ago that was still OK. Now writing scripts for family members is a huge legal no-no. I am not holding my father up as a paragon of medical wisdom, but it would be very unusual for him to ok a drug that worried him in the least. I mean he gets on my case if I take 3 tylenol tabs rather than two.
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OK. I checked with my father. Apparently the prostate undergoes a phase of growth in the mid 20's. Finesteride inhibits the conversion of Testosterone to DHT. Many studies point to DHT as a cause of prostate growth both in males in their mid 20's and in their 50's (the next phase of prostate growth). DHT of course also plays a central role in androgenic alopecia. Anyone taking prostate medication is taking a drug either very similar or identical in chemical composition to propecia.
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Propecia is not "poison" anymore that ibuprofen, birth control or any other drug. All drugs alter your blood chemistry to some degree and all drugs have side effects. Propecia is a heavily researched drug and multiple studies show it is an effective treatment for benign prostatic hyperplasia and androgenetic alopecia with minimal side effects in the MAJORITY of people. Multiple randomized double blind, placebo controlled trials (i.e., the "gold standard" in science) have been carried out on propecia, and time after time, 98% of men who take it experience no side effects.
I call Bull$!@#, is this anecdotal or are you citing studies.
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Horse potions and pills cost a bundle and don't work. Save the money to spend on chics or whatever. False hope given by greedy companies.
I know that have MPB at an early age isn't fun but go sly and see how you like it. Sure, people will take notice and make comments initially but these will cease. Good people will accept you for who you are, not for your hair. Those that don't............................screw em. O0
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To my mind it doesn't really matter whether the side effects of propecia are minimal, slight, or terrible. The point is that it is just another way of wrestling with the inevitable. It can slow balding in some men. It does not reverse hair loss. Like plugs or rugs it is just another part of the multi-million dollar "hair restoration" industry, an industry that preys on the insecurities of balding men and tells them that in order to be "normal" or attractive they must do x, y, and z and pay top dollar for the products and services.
The basic drug is designed to slow prostate enlargement which is a real medical condition that many men in their 40's, 50's, 60's and beyond have to contend with and from what I understand can be anything from an inconvenience to a serious, painful medical condition. They designed a drug to inhibit the conversion of testosterone to DHT (without which the process of prostate growth cannot take place). It just so happens that the drug also slows balding in some men.
Propecia is not "poison" anymore that ibuprofen, birth control or any other drug. All drugs alter your blood chemistry to some degree and all drugs have side effects. Propecia is a heavily researched drug and multiple studies show it is an effective treatment for benign prostatic hyperplasia and androgenetic alopecia with minimal side effects in the MAJORITY of people. Multiple randomized double blind, placebo controlled trials (i.e., the "gold standard" in science) have been carried out on propecia, and time after time, 98% of men who take it experience no side effects.
I call Bull$!@#, is this anecdotal or are you citing studies.
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Propecia is not "poison" anymore that ibuprofen, birth control or any other drug. All drugs alter your blood chemistry to some degree and all drugs have side effects. Propecia is a heavily researched drug and multiple studies show it is an effective treatment for benign prostatic hyperplasia and androgenetic alopecia with minimal side effects in the MAJORITY of people. Multiple randomized double blind, placebo controlled trials (i.e., the "gold standard" in science) have been carried out on propecia, and time after time, 98% of men who take it experience no side effects.
I call Bull$!@#
I second that, are you kidding me?! :/O
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Propecia is not "poison" anymore that ibuprofen, birth control or any other drug. All drugs alter your blood chemistry to some degree and all drugs have side effects. Propecia is a heavily researched drug and multiple studies show it is an effective treatment for benign prostatic hyperplasia and androgenetic alopecia with minimal side effects in the MAJORITY of people. Multiple randomized double blind, placebo controlled trials (i.e., the "gold standard" in science) have been carried out on propecia, and time after time, 98% of men who take it experience no side effects.
I call Bull$!@#, is this anecdotal or are you citing studies.
You can "call" bullshit all you want, but the science on finasteride is thorough. So a person can trust your non-falsifiable claims (because they are based on nothing more than internet forums and gut feelings) that finasterdie is bullshit or a person can trust scientifically peer reviewed gold standard research studies (which are falsifiable). I am going with science.
It is not difficult to type "finasteride" into google scholar and read a few of the key articles. Review them for yourself and make your own conclusions. But I have a strong feeling no matter what science says, you will still say it is "bullshit" and it is a conspiracy by the drug companies. Because drug companies are headed by evil people who could care less about people's health, are unregulated by the government and only want to make money.....I hope you picked up on my sarcasm.
Again, finasteride does cause side effects, but according to all available research that has been done on the drug through highly regarded research designs, only about 2% of men experience side effects.
On a side note: besides hair loss, millions of men take finasteride for benign prostatic hyperplasia and are greatly benefited by the drug. Also, emerging research suggests that finasteride may help prevent some types of prostate cancer. But finasteride is bullshit and no one should take that poison...
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If it helps with BPH and other prostate troubles, then that's great and I'm all for it.
As far as growing hair on your head: Bull$%@#!
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I think it was designed for BPH. The hair thing they just stumbled on. idk. As far as growing hair on your head, I can tell you first hand that it is bullshit. Hey maybe it kept my prostate healthy, but other than that nada.
If it helps with BPH and other prostate troubles, then that's great and I'm all for it.
As far as growing hair on your head: Bull$%@#!
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Ok, I took the drugs propecia, avodart...
Just do some reading on what DHT does. It is important. Very Important. If you can face your fears at your age and skip the drugs you are ahead of the game.
I remember I chased this beautiful girl for so long. I thought my hair loss had something to do with it. Next tihng I know shes with a sly bald guy. Coolest guy ever, always smiling, joking around, cool job as a firefighter...he's been sly since highschool.
Im young too. I know how it feels. My honest advice is to stay off the drugs... Work and focus on other things in your life (SCHOOL) and good things will come. I've been trying to take my own advice.
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Ok, I took the drugs propecia, avodart...
Just do some reading on what DHT does. It is important. Very Important. If you can face your fears at your age and skip the drugs you are ahead of the game.
I remember I chased this beautiful girl for so long. I thought my hair loss had something to do with it. Next tihng I know shes with a sly bald guy. Coolest guy ever, always smiling, joking around, cool job as a firefighter...he's been sly since highschool.
Im young too. I know how it feels. My honest advice is to stay off the drugs... Work and focus on other things in your life (SCHOOL) and good things will come. I've been trying to take my own advice.
Life is funny that way. Sometimes the things we strive to fight against and interupt the cycle as best as we can (like hair loss) is the one thing that the object of our desires may find to be very "desirable" in their own object of desires (guy going sly)!! Goes to show ya' that ya' just never know....
That's why they call it "LIFE" because POOP HAPPENS!!(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi558.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss26%2FCSBDan%2FSmilies%2FSmiley_OnHorse.gif&hash=c02c535ac7708ba0815629eda0f01d89986d1e16)
BEST ADVICE is as mentioned - to stay away from the drugs. IMO, that can only lead to worse problems.. maybe not at first, but possibly down the road. Hair loss could then become the LEAST of your problems!!
Why take chances with your health?? Look how many RECALLS there are are products that first hit the market as being "TOTALLY SAFE with NO SIDE EFFECTS".... (https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi16.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb45%2Fsbreik%2Fdrunk%2Fdrunksmiley5.gif&hash=127e3c3389032803b52a378f9d01d95361cb0b9c)
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