Sly Bald Guys Forum
Various Non-Bald Discussions => Sports Talk => Topic started by: Rob-Raz on July 27, 2010, 11:57:41 PM
-
Thought we could start up a rolling thread to discuss upcoming MMA events starting with this Sunday on Versus: Jones vs. Matyushenko
Main card
Light Heavyweight bout: Jon Jones vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
Middleweight bout: Mark Muñoz vs. Yushin Okami
Welterweight bout: John Howard vs. Jake Ellenberger
Lightweight bout: Tyson Griffin vs. Takanori Gomi
I'm going with
Jones--This guy is the next superstar in the sport. So much raw talent!!
Munoz--Just based on past performances from Japanese fighters.
Ellenberger--Could go either way...gotta pick somebody.
Griffin-- Gomi just isnt the same lately.
Then next Saturday nights UFC 117.
Main card
Middleweight Championship bout: Anderson Silva (c) vs. Chael Sonnen
Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. Thiago Alves
Lightweight bout: Clay Guida vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Welterweight bout: Matt Hughes vs. Ricardo Almeida
Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs. Junior dos Santos
I'm going with
Silva-- had some very boring fights recently but just the trash talk alone from Sonnen is gonna have him ready to prove a point.
Fitch-- could go either way but he usually finds a way to pull it out
Guida-- due for a win and always ready to go
Hughes-- snoozefest decision
Roy Nelson-- By belly-smother ;D
So lets hear your picks!!!!!!!
-
noone wants to pick a winner? :'(
-
Sorry Rob, I'm Canadian.....all about hockey. >:D
Anything else, I usually don't watch.
-
Rob , I am a fan of MMA but as far as picking winners I don't have an opinion on most of them. But I'm always curious of who is going to win.
Silva most likely over Big mouth Sonnen , But Sonnen is damn good.
Clay Guida...The Cave Man (my name for him ) you can never have a dull fight.
Fitch and Alves both great , I don't know.
I pick Santos over Nelson , but then Roy is much better than he looks.
The other heavy weight fight , I have not seen either fighter fight .
-
I agree Magoo...Guida is always entertaining.
Well 2 for 4 last night! Really excited to see Gomi come out with a KO!
and MathGuy......one of the pound for pound best is a Canadien......Welterweight Champ Georges Saint Pierre!!!
-
and MathGuy......one of the pound for pound best is a Canadien......Welterweight Champ Georges Saint Pierre!!!
Isn't it a shame that I wasn't een aware of him. :/O :D
Maybe now that my university studies are done I can watch more sports. The past 5 years I have only had time to watch hockey and Judge Judy. ^-^
-
Middleweight Championship bout: Anderson Silva (c) vs. Chael Sonnen - I'm going with Sonnen on more of a gut reaction than a comparison of talent or toughness. I'm sick of Silva.
Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. Thiago Alves - Going with Alves in this one.
Lightweight bout: Clay Guida vs. Rafael dos Anjos - Have to go with Guida, here - he's a tough S.O.B.
Welterweight bout: Matt Hughes vs. Ricardo Almeida - Hughes is a stud, no doubt, but I have to give the nod to Almeida.
Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs. Junior dos Santos - I really want Dos Santos to win this one, I'd like to see him thrown into the Heavyweight title chase.
-
IRONHORSE...just read recently that Guida has been training with Greg Jackson's camp. Really excited to see how he has improved his game!! He already has tons of heart and cardio, will be nice to see him with some new weapons in his arsenal.
-
Ahhh yes - Greg Jackson - former (and possibly still?) trainer of my "hometown boy" Joe "Daddy" Stevenson, who I met before he ever went on TUF.
Must've done him some good, he was able to outlast dos Anjos. I'd like to see him string together a few more victories and get a shot at the title.
-
Some really good fights!!! Yeah.....Guida deserves a shot soon....he's bled plenty for Dana and the UFC.
Wow...Sonnen really took it to Silva....didn't think he would get the take downs that easy. Amazing finish.......rematch for sure.
-
Wow...Sonnen really took it to Silva....didn't think he would get the take downs that easy. Amazing finish.......rematch for sure.
Dana White said he loves the idea of a rematch, but wasn't really committing to a time. Apparently the winner (Silva) has to fight Vitor Belfort first. However, enough pressure from the public can change that.
-
OK - will pick the rest later, but here are my picks for the co-main events at UFC 118:
Frankie Edgar vs. B.J. Penn II - I look for a highly motivated Penn, ticked off by his loss, to end this fight before time expires. I think B.J. got a little too used to cruising by on superior talent, and got surprised by Edgar's tenacity & grit in the first fight. This time, I look for B.J. to either knock out or tap out Edgar.
Randy Couture vs. James Toney - I don't think it'll take Toney long to realize he's in way over his head. He won't be able to stop Randy's take-downs and he's never fought in an octagon before. I see Randy closing & clinching to neutralize Toney's punching power, then grinding Toney against the cage and dirty boxing, then taking him down at will for some ground & pound to end the fight. Randy, the gym rat, looks in fantastic shape. Toney seems to be averse to exercise, and looks like an oompa-loompa. Randy by KO in the first.
-
Main card
* Lightweight Championship bout: United States Frankie Edgar (c) vs. United States B.J. Penn
Yep....I think BJ is gonna come out ready to take it to Edgar this time around.
* Heavyweight bout: United States Randy Couture vs. United States James Toney
Toney always has that punchers chance....but I'm with you...Couture is gonna take him down and make an example
of him.
* Middleweight bout: Brazil Demian Maia vs. Brazil Mario Miranda
Haven't seen Miranda fight so I will pick Maia based on what I know about him.
* Lightweight bout: United States Kenny Florian vs. United States Gray Maynard
Tough one to call.....I'll pick Florian by decision.
* Welterweight bout: United States Nate Diaz vs. United States Marcus Davis
I would love to see a great KO by Davis but I am leaning more for a submission victory by Diaz.
-
How have I missed this thread?
As for sonnen vs silva was a great fight great to finally see silva is human and took a beating, i'd love to see a rematch but now vitor belford is back to shape and on form hes very dangerousand could put on just as good a fight.
As for 118
BJ Penn winner as long as he doesnt try and stand as hes tried in the past
Cotour easily way too experienced even though his punch resistance has gone he will wear down Toney.
Damian Mia is such an amazing bjj guy hes got this 1
Kenny Florian and Maynard is really tough to pick could go either way but i'm a big fan of kenflo so will be rooting for him wouldnt be surprised if Maynard wins though
Again another tough call, Nate is great on ground and Davis good on feet but Diaz has a good chin so pick him to win.
-
The more the merrier FightFan!! Did anyone happen to catch Strikeforce:Houston over the weekend?
-
I saw the noon vs gurgel and lashley vs griggs, im watching the rest of the show online later
-
I am so happy Couture made Toney look like a chump! I'm a fan of both sports, although a bigger MMA fan - but if Toney had been successful it would've made all MMA fighters look bad.
And how about that Frankie Edgar??!! Back to back victories over B.J. Penn! This makes the lightweight division a lot more interesting, without an untouchable, dominant champion.
Of course, it looks like the same thing might happen with the Middleweight division, with Dana White hurrying the rematch between Silva and Chael Sonnen. Last I read, the rematch is scheduled for later this year or the first part of next year.
Interesting times in the UFC to be sure, and their matchmaker is awesome.
-
Yep...nice night of fights. Couture did exactly what every MMA fan has tried to tell "Boxing purists" for years!!
Penn looked horrible last night.....not taking anything away from Edgar...he was a beast...but Penn was off.
-
ALSO glad Couture won....not even a fight. Toney looked way out of shape , not that it would have made a difference.
Edgar he's the real deal anyone that can make Penn look like an amateur.
-
I am utterly disappointed. Chael Sonnen put on an awesome show vs. Anderson Silva - and then comes back dirty on his post-fight drug test, something "performance enhancing." Now his great performance that night is being called into question, he's looking at a one year suspension, and the rematch between the two that Dana White was rushing to get made later this year or the first of next year is no more. Now Anderson Silva's next opponent will most likely be the winner of the Vitor Belfort/ Yushin Okami fight. **SIGH** :Xo!
-
Yep...couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Speaking of steriods.....Josh Barnett just signed a multi-fight deal with Strikeforce. That fight with Fedor could happen in the near future.
-
Well, I haven't had much good news in the MMA world, lately - which is why I haven't posted much on here.
One of my long time favorites, Mirko "Cro-Cop" Filipovic, was just knocked out by Frank Mir. Not that Mir is anybody's fool, but I remember Mirko, the terror of PRIDE FC - his fight with Fedor was incredible. I predicted great things for him when he initially came to the UFC ... Boy was I wrong. I get the impression that Mirko's head just isn't all the way in the game, these days.
Looking forward to Brock Lesnar's upcoming match-up with Cain Velazquez. Brock has become "the fighter I love to hate." I'm looking for someone to knock him off his throne (not that I think that'll be an easy task with his unparalleled athleticism, ungodly strength, strong wrestling, and he seems to be a very quick learner.) Cain is a likely candidate to do it, but I'd really like to see a rematch with Shane Carwin.
I'm starting to hear rumblings about a possible title shot for Fedor against Alistair Overeem. I'd like to see this ... I think it's time for Fedor to wear a title belt again, despite his idiotic loss to Fabricio Werdum.
Lastly, I'm hearing that one of my "Home-town boys," Dan Henderson, is about to return to action. I've always loved to watch Dan fight - his knockout of Michael Bisping is among the most brutal in MMA history!
-
Brock vs. Cain in a couple of days...getting excited - we may just see an upset if Brock can't end it early, with Cain being the cardio machine that he is. The under-card is a little lackluster. The Shields vs. Kampmann fight could be an interesting one. It'll be interesting to see what Tito Ortiz has left in him.
-
I'm making my prediction , Lesnar by knockout in 1st round. I don't think Cain can beat him, just not big or fast enough.Think also Lesnar is becoming more likeable at least in M.O.
-
There are aspects of this match-up that make it intriguing. Cain was arguably the better wrestler, and has proven to have a pretty decent chin. His conditioning and stamina is said to be second to none. He is the better striker of the 2 - he brings an interesting set of threats into the fight.
Brock looks to be coming into this fight a bit lighter than he's been in recent fights - this could be a good news/bad news thing - it takes away a bit from the weight advantage he enjoys over Cain, but could also mean he's been working harder on his cardio in an expectation of having to fight all 5 rounds, and I've yet to see Brock get gassed in a fight. It may also make him even quicker (and he's already scary fast for a man his size.)
Bottom line? I *WANT* Cain to win this fight (anyone but Brock!) But, Brock has shown me in his short MMA career that betting against him is never a good idea.
Magoo, your prediction coming true wouldn't shock me at all.
-
"After I beat your a$$, I'm going to drink a Corona and eat a burrito"- Brock Lesnar.
Thats funny stuff right there!
-
I am invited to some fight on Saturday night and don't know what to be excited for since I don't follow it...
Anyone have a summary regarding Saturday's PPV? Any tidbits and facts I should know?
-
Main card
Heavyweight bout: Brendan Schaub vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
Light Heavyweight bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Matt Hamill
Welterweight bout: Diego Sanchez vs. Paulo Thiago
Welterweight bout: Jake Shields vs. Martin Kampmann
Heavyweight Championship bout: Brock Lesnar (c) vs Cain Velasquez
The Tito Ortiz vs Matt Hamill fight is interesting because Tito was Matt's coach on the Ultimate Fighter reality show. Tito is a good wrestler but is nearing the end of his career while Hamill is also a good wrestler with ever improving standup. He really seemed to look up to Tito while on the show, so will mental games play a factor?? (side note: Matt Hamill is legally deaf...but hasn't slowed him down one bit)
Jake Shields vs martin Kampmann...both really well rounded fighters, slight edge going to Sheilds, but this is his first UFC fight (former champ in Strikeforce, another promotion) so the "1st time UFC jitters" could play a role.
Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez, 2 talented heavyweights, Cain being the better striker and also a great wrestler. Brock comes from the WWE so his smack talk is great, but he has proven to back it up. Could be anyones game but I give a slight edge to Brock because of his size.
-
Main card
Heavyweight bout: Brendan Schaub vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
Light Heavyweight bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Matt Hamill
Welterweight bout: Diego Sanchez vs. Paulo Thiago
Welterweight bout: Jake Shields vs. Martin Kampmann
Heavyweight Championship bout: Brock Lesnar (c) vs Cain Velasquez
The Tito Ortiz vs Matt Hamill fight is interesting because Tito was Matt's coach on the Ultimate Fighter reality show. Tito is a good wrestler but is nearing the end of his career while Hamill is also a good wrestler with ever improving standup. He really seemed to look up to Tito while on the show, so will mental games play a factor?? (side note: Matt Hamill is legally deaf...but hasn't slowed him down one bit)
Jake Shields vs martin Kampmann...both really well rounded fighters, slight edge going to Sheilds, but this is his first UFC fight (former champ in Strikeforce, another promotion) so the "1st time UFC jitters" could play a role.
Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez, 2 talented heavyweights, Cain being the better striker and also a great wrestler. Brock comes from the WWE so his smack talk is great, but he has proven to back it up. Could be anyones game but I give a slight edge to Brock because of his size.
Thanks...yeah, I remember when Brock was "The Next Big Thing" in the WWE...
-
I should be going to my sons aprt. to night to watch the fights. Where both big fans of mma. Looks like some good match ups.
-
Main card
Heavyweight bout: Brendan Schaub vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
Light Heavyweight bout: Tito Ortiz vs. Matt Hamill
Welterweight bout: Diego Sanchez vs. Paulo Thiago
Welterweight bout: Jake Shields vs. Martin Kampmann
Heavyweight Championship bout: Brock Lesnar (c) vs Cain Velasquez
The Tito Ortiz vs Matt Hamill fight is interesting because Tito was Matt's coach on the Ultimate Fighter reality show. Tito is a good wrestler but is nearing the end of his career while Hamill is also a good wrestler with ever improving standup. He really seemed to look up to Tito while on the show, so will mental games play a factor?? (side note: Matt Hamill is legally deaf...but hasn't slowed him down one bit)
Jake Shields vs martin Kampmann...both really well rounded fighters, slight edge going to Sheilds, but this is his first UFC fight (former champ in Strikeforce, another promotion) so the "1st time UFC jitters" could play a role.
Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez, 2 talented heavyweights, Cain being the better striker and also a great wrestler. Brock comes from the WWE so his smack talk is great, but he has proven to back it up. Could be anyones game but I give a slight edge to Brock because of his size.
Nice breakdown, Rob. Right on the money to the most part. The only thing I'd add, since I had the privilege of attending the press conference for UFC 121, is that Jake Shields looked as confident, calm and collected as I've ever seen him, even with the added pressure of being subjected to the bright lights and barrage of questions typical of a high-pressure TV circus event of this nature.
I really think he will stick to his game plan and probably grind out a victory. Personally I prefer Kampmann's fighting style, but Shield's wrestling, while not being very entertaining, certainly gets the job done.
Just for the heck of it, here is a photo of myself and Jake Shields taken prior to a Strikeforce event last year. (I occasionally grew out a buzz-mohawk from time to time a while back. ::))
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi587.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss316%2Fozzieguy_bucket%2FJS.jpg&hash=311d6d493f539d3134bab6f9b1009f0beac934e1)
-
Well, Cain made some believers!! Brock will be back, though. I think this makes the heavyweight division more interesting, anyhow. It sets the stage for some interesting fights between Cain, Brock, Shane Carwin, and Junior Dos Santos.
Well done to Matt Hamill for shutting up Tito Ortiz. I can't believe that Tito was ignorant enough to say that deaf people have "Soft heads."
-
Cain vs Dos Santos could be very interesting. Don't recall ever seeing Dos Santos on his back much, so he better be prepared for that.
It is time for Tito to hang it up (unless Dana would give Chuck one more shot at him! >:D)
Shields was very disappointing. Hopefully he will prepare for his weight cut better next fight and have some better cardio. I really believe Kampman should have stayed on his feet that last round, he may have been able to take him out with strikes.
-
Well I was wrong ,Cain was much better than I thought he was.Should be some good match ups down the line.
-
A little late...but some really nice fights last weekend!! Wow....BJ Penn...you just never know which fighter is gonna show up to fight. Nice KO of Matt "what happened?" Hughes
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.tinypic.com%2F2rclovk.jpg&hash=4bedb117161ae546e448fa96cf8a284ae3cdc02f)
Here is to hoping GSP represents for us Bald Guys and finishes Koshcek early!!
-
Well, interesting times in MMA - It appears that the UFC is following WWE's business model and just buying up any major competition, with it's purchase of Strikeforce. Personally, I'm not especially happy about that, 'cause I think the competition in the marketplace only benefits the consumer.
We have a new Light heavyweight Champion, Jon "Bones" Jones - who captured that title in convincing fashion over a foe who was far from a pushover.
The Heavyweight division should be getting interesting soon with all the injured/having surgery/on hiatus fighters returning, including the champ, Shane Carwin, Roy Nelson, and perhaps Brock will make up his mind what he wants to do, some day.
-
Wow...this thread is kind of floundering in "no response" land. We've had some decent fights lately, and nothing being said about them....
I was bummed that Jake Shields was unable to overcome GSP. I'm ready for someone to dethrone GSP, I just don't know who it would be.
Anderson Silva won again - big whoop. I really don't like that guy. I wish Chael Sonnen would get his crap together, come back, and finish what he started in their first fight.
"Rampage" Jackson didn't rampage through his latest fight...he kind of whimpered. Here's hoping he recaptures that "Rampage" mentality again. He used to be a really fun fighter to watch - even in interviews!
Frank Mir manhandled Roy Nelson in their fight. I was kind of hoping this one would go the other way. The winner of this fight is in the title hunt - and I wanted to see Nelson against more of the "top 5" fighters. Now I read that his wife said he fought that fight with pneumonia, and had been hospitalized earlier in the week - I can understand that "the show must go on" mentality, but fighting when you're that sick is a recipe for losing... or a convenient excuse.
Finally, an upcoming fight that I am really excited about, and yet torn over, because I am a huge fan of both men - Fedor Emelianenko vs. Dan Henderson . Dan's riding high, having just captured the Strikeforce Light Heavyweight belt (and after his 40th B-day, like his buddy, and one of my MMA heroes, Randy Couture.) Fedor is reeling after losing 2 straight , after an incredibly long undefeated streak. This should be a great fight either way. I really can't predict a winner - both men have freakish punching power - but I don't think this one will go the distance.
-
Well...if any good came from UFC buying Strikeforce....they just announced GSP vs Nick Diaz in October!!!!!!!! This should be a really good matchup.
You said it though....Rampage vs Hamill was kind of a snoozer.
As far as Nelson goes.....Pneumonia or not...unless he gets a little more serious with the cardio and his belly, he is never going to last with top caliber fighters in the later rounds.
Fedor vs Henderson is also looking good. Interested in the rest of the Heavyweight Tourney too if they ever continue it!! Gotta love Josh Barnett.......even if he is a 2 time juicer.
Cmon guys.....lets bring this thread back from the dead!!!!!
-
Fedor vs. Hendo tonight!! Man, I am so stoked...and so torn... I am such a big fan of both men!!
Either way it goes tonight, someone I really like wins, and someone I really like loses. My only prediction here -
This one won't go to decision.
-
Well, my prediction came true! Hendo via TKO towards the end of the first.
There was a TON of leather thrown in this fight, and both men were rocked. It was a real barn-burner, while it lasted!
I think it was stopped a bit prematurely, given the caliber of the fighters, but big kudos to Hendo for knocking out the legend! If you get a chance, watch it - it's worth it!
-
Just a quick note - I'm still waiting for him to get a few more fights under his belt - his fight with Rashad Evans will be a real measuring stick, for me, but this Jon "Bones" Jones kid is really impressing me, so far.
-
The UFC show last night was pretty good. Bisping vs Miller was a bit of a letdown, though, IMHO. I was surprised at the stand-up style of Miller.....not very precise. He had Bisping in trouble in the first round when he had his legs tied up but was unable to do any damage. I'm not a Bisping fan so I was hoping that "Mayhem" would take him out. But Bisping kinda redeemed himself with his comments after the fight, I thought. He gave some accolades to Miller for being a really tough guy and the 2 of them seemed to kind of bury the hatchet that they were sharpening during the TUF season.
Other good fights on the card. I was really impressed with Dodson even though he was a turncoat during the season.
Good show. Glad it was on Spike and not on FOX.
-
After the first round Miller was out of it, he showed no conditioning at all. Bisping was much better at stand up and Miller had nothing left to take him down. Dodson is a "wack job" and his antics are juvenile but he has a knock out punch and tremendous speed.
-
One of our local heros, Cung Le, got whooped on a couple of fights ago. That was tough to see.