Sly Bald Guys Forum
Head Shaving, Grooming & Care => Beards => Topic started by: Rusty Shackleford on April 20, 2010, 08:29:56 PM
-
I've been unhappy with the density and coverage of my beard for a white. I've considered trying Rogain but never looked into it because I figured it wouldn't work since the scalp and beard are totally different hair types. Tonight I looked into it and, oddly enough, found that increased body/facial hair growth is a known side effect. One site even said to avoid the high 5% strength because stray contact can result in hair growth on the forehead and ears.
I'm not interested in using it permanently. I know with the scalp that the new growth dies if you stop using it, but I wonder if that's true with the beard. On the scalp there's something actively going on that causes the hair to disappear, so it makes sense to see scalp hair disappear after ending a treatment that supresses the balding process. The beard's different. There's nothing attacking my hairs; the low density is a result of the hairs never bothering to develop. If this drug causes them to develop then it seems possible that they'll have no reason to disappear once the treatment stops.
I figured I'd give it a shot. The real side effects seem to be either mild or slow in developing, so I'll give it a few months and quit if anything harmful happens. Anyone else try it here?
-
I have not tried it nor would I.
As far as the side effects I would do some serious research to see whether the side effects would be reversible upon cessation of use. Some of the SE I've read about with these types of drugs are pretty wild and I don't know if they only persist as long as you are using the drugs.
But, hey man, it's your libido!
If it was me I would just shave my face, too, or start a goatee.
-
I'm a little surprised by this post Rusty. From your past posts on the Forum I pegged you as a pretty down to earth and reasonable guy.... not the kind of guy that would resort to something like this.
I know this sounds a little harsh but is is not meant to be.........
-
Well, it's a bad idea. And besides, I get stray grow on the ears w/o the drug :D anyway!
Perhaps try this if you want facial hair. Man up and don't shave at all for one month. Nothing, no trimming w/ blade or sissors, just straight mountain man. At the end of that time you're going to see what type of beard you can grow, it may be a full goat & moustache, a circle goat, whatever. You can't tell this without a month, unless you have above average density, and that's obviously what we're not dealing w/ here. Now after a month, trim to the beard you've got. And then, no real trimming at all for three months. It will become denser as dormant hairs come back. If you like it, it could take 6 to 12 months to fully mature--and it may have to be 1/2" long or longer to give the appearance you want. Those shorter trimed models may not be in the genes for you.
-
I'm a little surprised by this post Rusty. From your past posts on the Forum I pegged you as a pretty down to earth and reasonable guy.... not the kind of guy that would resort to something like this.
I know this sounds a little harsh but is is not meant to be.........
Awl come on! It's not like I'm talking about shooting up my skin with some liquid steroids! I'm just going to try an experiment to improve my facial hair. I've read up on the side effects and they none of them seem sudden. If something goes wrong it will likely ramp up in such a way that I can just pull the plug. With the treated surface being so much smaller than a scalp that would reduce the chance for a problem even further. The only real problem I see is that it won't work, and for that I'd just be out a little money. I know, I know, I'll be feeding the "beast" that wants balding men to feel like freaks so that they'll forever pay for this goop but I can quit anytime I want (so they say :D)
-
Well, it's a bad idea. And besides, I get stray grow on the ears w/o the drug :D anyway!
Perhaps try this if you want facial hair. Man up and don't shave at all for one month. Nothing, no trimming w/ blade or sissors, just straight mountain man. At the end of that time you're going to see what type of beard you can grow, it may be a full goat & moustache, a circle goat, whatever. You can't tell this without a month, unless you have above average density, and that's obviously what we're not dealing w/ here. Now after a month, trim to the beard you've got. And then, no real trimming at all for three months. It will become denser as dormant hairs come back. If you like it, it could take 6 to 12 months to fully mature--and it may have to be 1/2" long or longer to give the appearance you want. Those shorter trimed models may not be in the genes for you.
You reminded me of that college professor I had with the caterpillars growing in his ears... nasty...
Anyhoo, I've basically already done what you've said. First off, I've had a standard shaped goatee (or more) for roughly 15 years. I know what you're saying with playing around with it because for years I kept it at a certain length and then let it grow a little more and was impressed with the additional coverage it provided. But as for letting the beard grow out, I basically did that, over the course of a month I slowly knicked edges off to get the maximum size of a decent shape just to see it, and then slowly shaved off portions to see if I could style it well slowly in a literal sense over the couse of weeks. My beard's alright, but the shape of my face doesn't look good with a beard, especially with my scalp being shaved. On some guys it looks great, on some it works so well it's almost mandantory that they have that look. I also don't like having all that hair all over my face. I'm a goatee guy, but that's my weakest area.
Trust me, I've let mother nature have enough of a crack at it, now it's time for me to take the reigns a little bit.
-
Trust me,
We'll have to won't we? I can't remember an avatar with a picture of the real you, nor can I remember any pictures going up. As is being discussed currently on other threads today, we're our own harshest judges. Why not man up, put a picture up and let the guys judge and evaluate what you can and can't do w/ the face fur?
Yeah, I'm in a pretty blunt mood today! >:D
-
HEEEEEEEEEEEEERES RUSTY ! ! !
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.tinypic.com%2F14csksn.jpg&hash=6cae2055ec04427bb4e89147287aad3b9d7cc715) sorry rusty............... ;D
-
HEEEEEEEEEEEEERES RUSTY ! ! !
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.tinypic.com%2F16gdhrr.jpg&hash=19b9fcf6654d4c8fdd8be9f119ec860a104b9767)
sorry rusty............... ;D
Well, if that is Rusty, then the beard's fine, nice color etc. Probably just needs 6-8 months to gain a really mature density--it can take that long. Sly, 20 minutes, beards--time, lots of it.
-
Dude if that is you in the picture, you beard is cool O0.
I have read somewhere that the rogaine stuff works on the beard (not recommend for that area though) but it has some pretty bad side effects as it messes with your blood pressure etc.
Also i think that you have to use it for quite along time for it to take effect.
-
Rusty would`nt lie... :D
He posted that in "Beards" / My full beard look---- June 09
-
Rusty would`nt lie... :D
He posted that in "Beards" / My full beard look---- June 09
There are problems even SBG won't deal with! ;)
-
That, uh, that's not me! That's my, uh, neighbor Boomhauer. Yea... Boomhauer.
Nancy! They're picking on me! I'm going to go order a pizza! :D
-
I have read somewhere that the rogaine stuff . . . has some pretty bad side effects as it messes with your blood pressure etc.
And you get hair on your palms from rubbing it in >:D
-
Mmmm ... (*!z@
-
HEEEEEEEEEEEEERES RUSTY ! ! !
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.tinypic.com%2F16gdhrr.jpg&hash=19b9fcf6654d4c8fdd8be9f119ec860a104b9767)
sorry rusty............... ;D
Well, if that is Rusty, then the beard's fine, nice color etc. Probably just needs 6-8 months to gain a really mature density--it can take that long. Sly, 20 minutes, beards--time, lots of it.
In that pic the goatee area probably hadn't been shaved in years, but the sides wouldn't be any more than 4 or so months old. Trimmed, of course (otherwise the stuff would be very long). I dunno, some guys have heads that are better suited for goatees and some have faces better suited for beards. I think my face is a goatee face which actually suits me fine since I tend not to be able to stand having a full beard for more than 6 months.
I'm glad aarrggh linked to that because I had forgotten I uploaded it into here and going through the process of linking to a self-pic here sounds like a chore - that's not a knock on SBG, it's just an acknowledgement that digging through my photos to find one that fits whatever forum I'm posting a photo to is always a chore, partially because multiple sites are involved and partially because I always feel that if I dig through another folder of photos I'll find another photo that even better illustrates whatever topic is being discussed.
-
I have read somewhere that the rogaine stuff . . . has some pretty bad side effects as it messes with your blood pressure etc.
And you get hair on your palms from rubbing it in >:D
I was always told that would happen from rubbing something else.
:*))
(Did I just write that?)
-
Dude if that is you in the picture, you beard is cool O0.
I have read somewhere that the rogaine stuff works on the beard (not recommend for that area though) but it has some pretty bad side effects as it messes with your blood pressure etc.
Also i think that you have to use it for quite along time for it to take effect.
Thanks!
I'm going to keep an eye on myself and if anything goes wrong I'll just end it. I've never read about the stuff being suddenly fatal. The long duration may be a problem as I find it difficult to take vitamins and suppliments on a regular basis for months on end without screwing up.
I think there's a very good reason it's not recommended for the beard area. Side effects say that it can grow facial hair and body hair, and with this product being marketed towards women I'm sure they'd scare off a lot of female customers if they actively promoted its ability to grow male body hair. Marketing this as a facial hair stimulant would probably kill the female hair restoration market, and that female market is probably much larger than the market of males that would want to use this for facial hair growth. I've also read that the facial hair generated by minox is sometimes or often permanent, while scalp hair must be bathed in it forever, this would limit the financial appeal of marketing this as a facial hair stimulant even further. It would be like Gilette marketing a cheap laser razor that can permanently kill hair.
-
HEEEEEEEEEEEEERES RUSTY ! ! !
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.tinypic.com%2F16gdhrr.jpg&hash=19b9fcf6654d4c8fdd8be9f119ec860a104b9767)
sorry rusty............... ;D
Well, if that is Rusty, then the beard's fine, nice color etc. Probably just needs 6-8 months to gain a really mature density--it can take that long. Sly, 20 minutes, beards--time, lots of it.
In that pic the goatee area probably hadn't been shaved in years, but the sides wouldn't be any more than 4 or so months old. Trimmed, of course (otherwise the stuff would be very long). I dunno, some guys have heads that are better suited for goatees and some have faces better suited for beards. I think my face is a goatee face which actually suits me fine since I tend not to be able to stand having a full beard for more than 6 months.
I'm glad aarrggh linked to that because I had forgotten I uploaded it into here and going through the process of linking to a self-pic here sounds like a chore - that's not a knock on SBG, it's just an acknowledgement that digging through my photos to find one that fits whatever forum I'm posting a photo to is always a chore, partially because multiple sites are involved and partially because I always feel that if I dig through another folder of photos I'll find another photo that even better illustrates whatever topic is being discussed.
Well, I think for a lot of guys including myself, four months really doesn't let the full potential of thickness develop. & top that with not being really into a full beard, you pretty much have a goat & mustache option--in one of the many variations going.
I'm not for the rogaine stuff though, based upon a bit of personal experience that I have previously admitted--I did try to "save" the hole in back with that stuff. All it got me was the meanest nasty crusty patch but no hair. Took several trips to the dermatologist to clear it up. The heart problems are real and dangerous. If you take any medications for hypertension or irregular heart beat or have any symptoms of either condition, stop the stuff now until your doctor gives you the go ahead, or it could be very unpleasant.
-
Why'd my photo turn into a TinyPic image?
-
OK, computer geeks, where are you? :x! Why won't the link/picture forward/copy/paste, etc. :Xo!
Time to sacrifice another virgin computer game to the god of the Ethernet! :/O
OK, everyone else take a break and meet up at Boomhauer's for pizza. Rusty said he was buying! :*))
-
I was also considering minox for the beard, but only because I had some left over from my trying to regrow head hair phase. After doing some reading about it I decided it was best to throw it down the toilet and deal with the pubes on my face and hopefully one day grow some decent stubble
-
hahaha rusty just saw the photo of you.. your beard is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. what would you need minox for!!!!
-
hahaha rusty just saw the photo of you.. your beard is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. what would you need minox for!!!!
It's different when it's growing from your face and you can see all the flaws. Apparently when the camera adds 10 pounds it does so by adding hair to my body that doesn't really exist.
I guess it's been around 5 weeks now since I started and I don't really see any difference. With the way hairs come and go it's impossible to tell if tiny hairs are those being stimulated by the minox or if they are just the ones coming out of their natural dormancy period.
I read up on this online and it's funny how so many people will insist on seeing some results in as little as 1 or 2 weeks. I don't care how well you respond because it's impossible to see results that fast. Hairs all have a portion that grows below the skin, so it takes a week or two for newly created hair to even grow out of the skin., but these people are seeing results before hair created by the minox could even break the surface. I guess that's the power of persuasion!
I'm not seeing any side effects either, so I'm wondering if my bottles even have the active ingredient in it. Considering that the directions say results can take months to appear I'm going to continue.
-
Hey Rusty-
I got some extra bottles of the foam I should send ya from when I tried it up top. Not sure the shelf-life of those things.. I should prolly toss 'em.
Unless I want to use 'em to connect the two big patches on my back... ! LOL. Nah, you can have 'em..
-
I'm sure we'll be following your progress with interest.
-
Rusty, how's that snake oil working for your beard guy? :/O
-
Hey, Rusty - what's the latest? Did you keep using it? See any results? My goatee is a bit sparse and I'd be really interested in hearing your experience with this.
-
It's been a looooooooong time since I was here.
I got a 3 month supply of a generic Minox (5%?) and then after that I bought another that I'm almost finished with. I noticed absolutely no additional growth whatsoever, and that's why I have an unused bottle: I keep forgetting to use it for no benefit. I also had no side effects at all. I applied it close to my mouth and I tasted it every once in a while so I know it wasn't water, but it sure acted like it.
-
Hmm. I never thoght of minixodil for a beard. Sounds interesting
-
I believe that minoxidil is only for the crown area of the head. Also the hair it produces are very tiny peach fuzz type hairs.Will not work on beards or temporal areas.Did you ever notice that the ad's for this product always show a guy with a FULL head of hair?
-
Did you ever notice that the ad's for this product always show a guy with a FULL head of hair?
Of course they do, because it's all BS, just like any rug or transplant! C'mon guys. :/O