Sly Bald Guys Forum
Confidence and Success => Business/Work => Topic started by: jusbnme on March 15, 2007, 07:54:36 PM
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What's up my sly bros.? I have my panel interview tomorrow with one of the fire departments I'm trying to get in to. This is the third part of the hiring process. First there's a written test, then a physical agility test, then this interview. I passed the written and agility test. I think the way it's supposed to work tomorrow is 3 or 4 people from different parts of the fire department will be asking me questions. Hopefully I'll do all right and "wow" them. I'm not one to dress up at all. I'm strictly a jeans and tee shirt kind of guy. I'm wearing a shirt and tie tomorrow. I'm going to be so uncomfortable. :-\ >:( I have to make a good impression on these people to move on to the next part in the hiring process. So wish me luck!!!
I was wondering since it's like 3 or 4 people it sounds like an audition or something. I wonder how they would react if I went in there and started doing something nuts like break dancing or singing? I could always play it off and be like, "Oh my bad, I thought this was American Idol." !@!@ ??? ;D
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While every dept is different of course, was talking to my brother-in-law who has been on his dept for almost 20 years. He says that alot of the time these questions are designed to see how you can think on your feet and react to situations or pressure. Go in your confident sly self and the result should be sweet. Good luck
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Good luck bro ... gotta follow the dream or you'll always wonder "what if".
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Good luck man. Those panels are always fun. Just stay comfortable and be yourself.
The worst thing you can do is tell them what you think they WANT to hear. Thats what they hear every single interview. You do need to give the "right" responses, but do it in a way that makes you interesting and someone they remember. I have 12 years now as a professional firefighter, and have worked in 4 states and 2 countries. I have had my share of fire department interviews. Im settled now I think, I hope I never see another interviewer.
Also be patient after the process. I learned that the hard way. I did all of this with the city of Nashville, thought I did great, but never heard back. Over the next 6 months I applied to a different department up in Detroit, got the job, and 2 weeks later Nashville called with the offer. At that point it was too late to accept it. It sucked.
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Good luck bro! Stay confident and you'll do well. O0
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Best of luck Lance!
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What's up my sly bros.? I'm happy to say that I made it through the interview process and I'm going on to the next phase of the hiring. That would be a personal interview with the chief of the fire department. Well, first he has to review everything from my panel interview to see if he feels I am "worthy" of an interview with him. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks for all the best wishes. I did go in there just being my sly self. Didn't try to bs at all. I was just totally honest with all my answers and was just myself. Hopefully the chief will give me a shot so I can use some more of my "slyness" to advance even farther. O:O
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good luck Lance! hope ya get it!
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Awesome brutha!! Good luck with the chief!
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my cousin usually shaves his head in the summer but was told not to because it isn't proffessional or some crap. he just got on with the dept so maybe they are hazing him.
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Good job, Lance. Good luck as you move forward.
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Thanks for all the encourgement and replies my sly bros. O0
pburke, I don't know about your cousin's department bro...They may very well be messing with him because a lot of the firemen I see around in this area have went the way of the sly. Of course I mean they are bald. I'm glad for your brother though.
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Congrats on advancing one more step towards your goal Lance. Good luck on the next phase.
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Good job, Lance!!
Keep up the good work, ey. O0
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So any word yet when you meet the cheif?
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Good luck Lance we are all behind ya :x! :x! :x!
I'll be more than happy to call the cheif for ya ;)
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Good job, Lance!!
Keep up the good work, ey. O0
I don't want to be a nit picker Robmeister, but you misspelled "eh".
No worries man, I just don't want you to get in trouble with any of the other Canadians.... eh. O:O
Good luck in your endeavours Lance,
Shine on Dude! O0
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Good job, Lance!!
Keep up the good work, ey. O0
I don't want to be a nit picker Robmeister, but you misspelled "eh".
No worries man, I just don't want you to get in trouble with any of the other Canadians.... eh. O:O
Good luck in your endeavours Lance,
Shine on Dude! O0
!p !p !p
j/k never dawned on me....I do a lot of stuff by sound rather than spelling.
Like: "Gotta" and "ya" and "yer"
e.g. "I gotta tell ya, yer in for a world of hurt if I send Yeti up there for bustin on my grammar"
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Thanks for all the support my sly bros. and sly sista(HotCajun). O:O As far as when I may or may not be meeting with him it all depends on what he thinks of what went down at my panel interview. The human resource personel has to get all the paper work together from the interview: questions they asked, answers I gave, opinions the panel wrote about me, etc... Once she has all that together she will turn it over to the "big dog." If he likes what went down at my interview he can offer me an interview with him. If he likes the way that interview goes he can move me forward. Worse case is that he doesn't like the way my panel interview sounded and just ends the hiring process for me. But hey, I'm trying to think positive. If it doesn't work out then so be it. I'll move on. Besides I'm going through the process with another city also just in case this one doesn't work. I'm the kind of person that believes things happen for a reason. If I don't ever make it as a firefighter then that's how it was supposed to happen. Thanks for all the great support though. O0
Oh yeah, HotCajun...I would send you down there but I don't want the chief to have a heart attack before he gets the chance to put me through. >:D >:D ^-^ Thanks. lol.
Peace.
And Robmeister, to me bro it doesn't matter how ya spell it. I just appreciate the support. Peace. O0
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Good luck bro. Be yourself and show your passion. You will do okay
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Good job, Lance!!
Keep up the good work, ey. O0
I don't want to be a nit picker Robmeister, but you misspelled "eh".
No worries man, I just don't want you to get in trouble with any of the other Canadians.... eh. O:O
Good luck in your endeavours Lance,
Shine on Dude! O0
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j/k never dawned on me....I do a lot of stuff by sound rather than spelling.
Like: "Gotta" and "ya" and "yer"
e.g. "I gotta tell ya, yer in for a world of hurt if I send Yeti up there for bustin on my grammar"
g@@4
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Shiny, relax bro. P!++ It can't really be getting to you that bad can it? B@n% p0@^ :Xo! Thanks for the support anyway bro, ey. Just joking. O0
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You hoser.
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You hoser.
Who me? gu!l+) Yep! And damned proud of it pal O0 !p
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You hoser.
Who me? gu!l+) Yep! And damned proud of it pal O0 !p
Guys...Guys...come on my sly bros. Peace and love baby. :) ;) O0 Who would of thought a topic about someone's interest in a career would turn into a forum brawl. ;D
Just playing.
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Lance, I think he might have been talking to you...LOL.
Fireman use hoses - hoser Get it?
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Lance, I think he might have been talking to you...LOL.
Fireman use hoses - hoser Get it?
I figured that but Shiny responded back before I could so I just figured I'd let it be on him. Ha!!! O0 But if it was intended for me it's all good. I can take it.
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:-[ Thought he was making a reference to Bob & Doug from the Great White North eh
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What's up bros? I had a practice run of another cities agility test Thursday morning that went pretty good. This other city called Newport News was a little more physical than the other city I'm trying for, which is Hampton. I don't think it's nothing I can't pass though when the real test comes up. That is if I even have to take it. This was just a practice...The real agility test isn't until the first week in May. The first city I applied to, Hampton, is moving things very fast and hopefully will hire me before I have to worry about Newport News and there physical test. But I'm still waiting on that big call from the chief of Hampton so I'm not in the clear yet. I'm starting to stress a bit but trying to stay positive about it.
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Good to hear an update and that there are options for you..
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I'll make that phone call anytime :x!
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I'll make that phone call anytime :x!
If I don't hear anything soon I may take you up on that HC. Thanks for the support. O0
I actually received an e-mail this morning stating that Hampton, which is the city I have been waiting to hear from, is a little backed up with paper work. Human resources let me know that they have just gotten the paper work from my panel interview into the chief's hands. So it may take just a little longer to find out if I have made it through to the next step. I guess that's good and bad. On one hand I have to wait a little longer to hear the news but on the other hand it means I may still have a shot. :-\
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dang lance..you in yorktown? i thought you was in texas or something lol i'm in norfolk...oceanview to be exact lol...used to live on willoughby spit right across the HRBT...
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Sounds hopeful Lance, if you were out of the running I don't know if they would have called you to say you're still in it. Best of Luck
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dang lance..you in yorktown? i thought you was in texas or something lol i'm in norfolk...oceanview to be exact lol...used to live on willoughby spit right across the HRBT...
Damn man...I had no idea. Yeah, I'm right here in Yorktown. I was born in Newport News at Riverside Hospital but grew up most of my life in good old Seaford, which is part of York County. I don't know Norfolk too well but I have been there quite a few times. I recently went out that way to the zoo with my wife and son. I have heard of Willougby Spit before but don't know too much about that either. I don't really get out too much other than right around here like Newport News, Hampton, Poquoson, and Williamsburg. :-[ I use to get over to Virginia Beach once in a while but since my son has come along I really don't do much of anything anymore. Maybe we can arrange a meeting of "2 slys?" Small world.
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yup just right down the road from ya lol...i go to yorktown 2 or 3 times a month....got a lady friend that lives there >:D yea might be able to get alil get together when i come back from fl...leaving this weekend...will be back may 20th.
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yup just right down the road from ya lol...i go to yorktown 2 or 3 times a month....got a lady friend that lives there >:D yea might be able to get alil get together when i come back from fl...leaving this weekend...will be back may 20th.
Sounds good bro. Just give me shout. O0
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I'm about to lose it!!! Still no call from the chief from the fire department that was moving things so fast before. I received an e-mail about a week ago stating that they were behind on their paperwork and that we should be getting contacted soon one way or the other. It's really stressing me. I'm not a very impatient person but when things take a crazy amount of time I do start bugging out. I have a physical agility test for another city coming up this Thursday which I wasn't looking forward to. It's a little harder than the first city's I took. I had hoped I would have heard something by now from the first city and wouldn't have to take this one but I guess I'm out of luck on that idea. Oh well, we'll see what happens.
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I'm about to lose it!!! Still no call from the chief from the fire department that was moving things so fast before. I received an e-mail about a week ago stating that they were behind on their paperwork and that we should be getting contacted soon one way or the other. It's really stressing me. I'm not a very impatient person but when things take a crazy amount of time I do start bugging out. I have a physical agility test for another city coming up this Thursday which I wasn't looking forward to. It's a little harder than the first city's I took. I had hoped I would have heard something by now from the first city and wouldn't have to take this one but I guess I'm out of luck on that idea. Oh well, we'll see what happens.
Keep your chin up Lance! Things always seem to work out...
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Keep it positive bro. Look at it this way, if you do well on the tests for this department, you could be in a position to pick and choose your job!
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Hang in there Lance...you yourself said they were behind on all their paperwork....
I'm sure it's just all par for the course...
I have a feeling you'll be a Mr. Clean sly brother soon ( you can't have a goat when you first enter, right?)...don't worry the firetraining will rid you of the double chin you told us about
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let us know when you get the good news!
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Thanks for the positive feedback guys. It does help. O0
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What's up my sly bros. and sisters? I still haven't heard from the first city yet (Hampton), which would be the chief's phone call. But I did do well enough on the other city's agility test to move on in their process. Man, that was like 5 times harder than Hampton's test. When I was done I felt like passing out and throwing up. The last event was a joist walk. My legs and arms felt like limp noodles and my head was swooning like crazy. When it was over I had to sit down for about 30 min. and drink a lot of water before I could try and leave. But like I said, I did well enough to advance so if I don't get any good news from the first city I will hopefully have this one to fall back on. That agility test sure did let me know one thing though...I definitely need to get more serious about my exercising. I was wore the hell out half way through the thing. I don't know what got me through it. It's not really needing more muscle or anything like that for me...It's more of the endurance that I need. Sure a little more muscle would be nice but if I'm panting like a dog in 100 degree heat after only about a few minutes of strenuous work then somethings up. I need to do way more cardio than I'm doing, which is about none right now. I'm heading out first thing tomorrow to check out some different elliptical machines to price and buy. At least that's what I've been told can give me a very good cardio workout without being too hard on my joints like running. Any suggestions on the elliptical machines or better advice? I've heard stationary bikes are good too but that ellipticals are more of a workout.
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way to go, lance, yer my hero, bro!!
In '99 I went through the process for the Los Angeles County Sheriff's dept. I'm pretty sure the fire dept physical stuff is more rigorous. But the Sheriff's dept was pretty stinkin' tough.
I'm still disappointed in the outcome....I passed everything...physical...written, etc.
But I made a personal vow that I wasn't going to lie when it came to the verbal...I figured that they would appreciate that.
Well, they didn't (BASTARDS).....
When they asked me if I'd ever done marijuana, cocaine and what not....I told them I did, but that it had been 10 years removed....when I was young and stupid....
They showed me the door real quick....(BASTARDS)....
The funny thing is...I had friends and relatives that made it on the force by LYING ABOUT THE SAME STUFF I WAS HONEST ABOUT (BASTARDS)...
ok...I feel better now...
Way to go brutha
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way to go, lance, yer my hero, bro!!
In '99 I went through the process for the Los Angeles County Sheriff's dept. I'm pretty sure the fire dept physical stuff is more rigorous. But the Sheriff's dept was pretty stinkin' tough.
I'm still disappointed in the outcome....I passed everything...physical...written, etc.
But I made a personal vow that I wasn't going to lie when it came to the verbal...I figured that they would appreciate that.
Well, they didn't (BASTARDS).....
When they asked me if I'd ever done marijuana, cocaine and what not....I told them I did, but that it had been 10 years removed....when I was young and stupid....
They showed me the door real quick....(BASTARDS)....
The funny thing is...I had friends and relatives that made it on the force by LYING ABOUT THE SAME STUFF I WAS HONEST ABOUT (BASTARDS)...
ok...I feel better now...
Way to go brutha
I'd feel the same way brother. Sorry to hear about all that.
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I feel a little embarrassed to mention this but oh well...I've been having some second thought about the whole firefighting job. It's not that I just don't want anything at all to do with it anymore. It's just that I've had a lot of time to think the whole thing through a little more with all the time I've had on my hands. I've been thinking lately about how I would like to do something with computers. Not really sure exactly what but something. Maybe computer programming or something else. Just don't know but I just have a sudden interest to make it happen. Not real sudden...I mean I've always thought having a job with computers would be a great career and good job security but I just never thought I would be good enough to get through any classes or courses I would have to take. But since I've been doing very well in the fireman hiring process it's sort of given me a boost of confidence I didn't have before. Kind of like going sly. I never really did good in high school. Just barely made it by enough to graduate. But like so many have been telling me lately, back then I really didn't give a crap about much but running around. I didn't care about studying. Now that I'm older I do care very much and think I would do fine if I had to take classes. I just didn't know if it was too late to start. I'm a real smart guy I just never really applied myself in school. I know I could learn anything now if I really wanted to. My wife is behind me. Well, sort of. She supported me 100% about not working and concentrating on the fire department and was jazzed up that I may be getting hired soon. Which meant I would start making money again. Now that I've come up with this new idea she is supportive but just a little upset that so much time has went by where I could have already been taking classes. She is glad about one thing though...The safety factor of me not being a fireman. Like I said though, nothing is in stone. It all depends on a few different factors. For one I may not even get picked up by any of the fire departments and that would make my decision very easy. Another thing, like I mentioned before, is that I don't exactly know what I would like to do as far as a computer job goes. I'm pretty good with computers though so I don't feel that I would have any problems learning anything I would need to. Sorry to ramble but the wife has already heard all of this. Just thought I'd see what my sly bros thought?
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Hey Lance, we've all had career decisions and indecisions and it can be tough to decide, especially with a family to consider. With the fact that you would like some income coming in, being able to get on a job immediately would be a help. One thing to consider. Many departments (this may not be the ones in your area) work a 24 hour on 48 hour off shift that allows men and women time to have alternative careers. This could be the best of both worlds. You could have income and the time to study and prepare for a field in computers. Get the computer career on track, leave the dept. Like the dept so much, still have computers as extra income. Just a thought from the son of a retired fireman. And whatever you decide, ya know the gang here will support ya.
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Hey Lance, we've all had career decisions and indecisions and it can be tough to decide, especially with a family to consider. With the fact that you would like some income coming in, being able to get on a job immediately would be a help. One thing to consider. Many departments (this may not be the ones in your area) work a 24 hour on 48 hour off shift that allows men and women time to have alternative careers. This could be the best of both worlds. You could have income and the time to study and prepare for a field in computers. Get the computer career on track, leave the dept. Like the dept so much, still have computers as extra income. Just a thought from the son of a retired fireman. And whatever you decide, ya know the gang here will support ya.
Paul said it perfect and a good way to look at it...do the computer thing part time and get good at it...the fireschedule sounds flexible, do the two....see which one sticks! that way nothing lost, right?
Hey Lance....hang in there...it is tough...you want to make all the 'right" desicions and it can be overwhelming..... but things happen for a reason...maybe the extra time and change of heart is meant to be! O0
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Lance - keep with it bro. I remember when I went though the process with St. Paul 12 yrs ago and it took 1 year for them to go through the list (and I scored high). I passed it up when it came to me and stuck with my regular job and my paid on call department. 7 years to go and I can retire from the department with my 20.
Maybe look into that as an option or I know you could do both with the rotating schedule as several of my fellow bros do this already.
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Lance - keep with it bro. I remember when I went though the process with St. Paul 12 yrs ago and it took 1 year for them to go through the list (and I scored high). I passed it up when it came to me and stuck with my regular job and my paid on call department. 7 years to go and I can retire from the department with my 20.
Maybe look into that as an option or I know you could do both with the rotating schedule as several of my fellow bros do this already.
Welcome fireman and thanks for the advice and positive feedback. And of course, thanks to all my other fellow sly bros for the support.
I like the idea you threw my may Paul. That sounds like a good way to have both and make a decision. Thanks. O0
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What's up sly bros and gals? Just thought I'd throw an update out there. Got some good news today on one of the other cities I have been trying for. The city Newport News called me today and said that I did well enough on their agility test to move on to their interview which will be on June 12th. I'm still waiting to hear from Hampton city which would be the chief's interview but at least I'm still in with both. Hopefully one will pick me up.
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What's up sly bros and gals? Just thought I'd throw an update out there. Got some good news today on one of the other cities I have been trying for. The city Newport News called me today and said that I did well enough on their agility test to move on to their interview which will be on June 12th. I'm still waiting to hear from Hampton city which would be the chief's interview but at least I'm still in with both. Hopefully one will pick me up.
That's great news bro! Good luck!
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Glad to hear there is some good news coming in Lance. Keep us updated
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Glad to hear it Lance, good luck!
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Lance - keep with it bro. I remember when I went though the process with St. Paul 12 yrs ago and it took 1 year for them to go through the list (and I scored high). I passed it up when it came to me and stuck with my regular job and my paid on call department. 7 years to go and I can retire from the department with my 20.
Maybe look into that as an option or I know you could do both with the rotating schedule as several of my fellow bros do this already.
Thanks for the encouraging words fireman and the rest of my sly bros. I'm definitely going to stick with it and become a firefighter no matter what it takes. I had a good heart to heart with my wife a little after I posted that last comment about maybe having second thoughts. She told me like it is and I needed to hear it. That's why I love her so much. She knows me better than myself most of the time. I'm just getting impatient waiting for things to happen with the fire department and it's been getting me worried. So I've been coming up with all these other options but there are no other options. Being a fireman is what I've seen myself doing for years now and it is what I see myself doing for years to come. So one way or the other I'm getting into one of these fire departments. My wife has told me she will back me up even if they don't except me this time. She said she will be behind me if I want to pay for some courses that will give me a little more experience for another try in the hiring process if they don't pick me up. She said as long as we have our basic bills paid and food on the table for our son then she'll support me until I can get in. Gotta love her.
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Hang in there brother, everything happens for a reason I believe...I a have a close friend of mine that has been a paramedic with the fire dept for about 8yrs and decided he wanted to switch over to fighting fires, anyway, with that background, I'd assume he would have first dibs, but it still took him a couple yrs(not meant to discourage)
things will work themselves out and your a lucky dude to have such a great, supporting wifey!
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Lance,
Glad to see that you are sticking with it and it is going well. It is great to have the support of your wife as this will be important when you make it. Remember, keep with your dream and it will happen.
Keep with it and keep us posted. Good things happen to those who wait.
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Hang in there Lance, be patient. Also, maybe talk to some firefighters you know about the actual interview just to see what types of questions/role plays they might give you. I've found that talking to people that are already in a position may give you valuable insight into the interview. Practice your answers to some of the potential questions and most importantly, be confident and don't lose your cool (sorry, that's a bad j/k I know). GOOD LUCK!
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You wife sounds like an awesome lady! O0
Hang in there bro...it's easy for all of us to just say it...but for now I hope just knowing dudes are hopein' the best for you will mentally help when things seem to be going no where..
You'll be a fireman soon.... sportin' a cool, gleamin' dome...very SLY O:O
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Thanks for all the great words guys. It really helps the stress. O0
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What's up sly bros and gals? Just thought I'd throw an update out there. Got some good news today on one of the other cities I have been trying for. The city Newport News called me today and said that I did well enough on their agility test to move on to their interview which will be on June 12th. I'm still waiting to hear from Hampton city which would be the chief's interview but at least I'm still in with both. Hopefully one will pick me up.
Lance... whats up brother, I used to live in both of those cities in VA, I was stationed at Langley and then stayed around for another 2 yrs. How do you like it there?
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You'll enjoy being a fireman. Ours are great-we are always giving each other(the depts) a hard time in good fun.
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What's up sly bros and gals? Just thought I'd throw an update out there. Got some good news today on one of the other cities I have been trying for. The city Newport News called me today and said that I did well enough on their agility test to move on to their interview which will be on June 12th. I'm still waiting to hear from Hampton city which would be the chief's interview but at least I'm still in with both. Hopefully one will pick me up.
Lance... whats up brother, I used to live in both of those cities in VA, I was stationed at Langley and then stayed around for another 2 yrs. How do you like it there?
I really like living here in Virginia. I actually live in Yorktown in the Tabb area if you know where that is. I grew up mainly in Seaford which is in Yorktown if you know where that is too. My mom still lives out in Seaford. I love that little community. It's so quite out there. It's like living in the country or near a beach but you're still only a few miles from civilization if you know what I'm saying. Unfortunately due to me not working for over a year and my wife having the only income we can't afford to get a house in York County just yet. Because it's such a clean and nice place to live the prices for houses are crazy right now. I'm living with my grandmother right now to get by who has a big house that we can all "breath" in. I wanted to try out for the York County fire department also but they require you to already have EMT - Basic and they would prefer that you have already put yourself through the fire academy. The fire academy costs around $2,000.00. Since Hampton and Newport News are willing to dish out the money to put you through I figured I'd go that route first. If they don't pick me up I may just say the hell with it and spend some money I don't have and put myself through so I can try out for York County. Don't get me wrong, Hampton and Newport News are great cities too but I just prefer the county. How did you like the area when you were here?
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You live in a nice area. I'm very familiar with it-Fort Eutis and Fort Monroe are there.
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You live in a nice area. I'm very familiar with it-Fort Eutis and Fort Monroe are there.
That's cool man. Did you live here before or military? It is a good area to live in but just like anywhere else it has it's "spots." That's why I mainly prefer to try and stay in "the county."
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Don't get me wrong, Hampton and Newport News are great cities too but I just prefer the county. How did you like the area when you were here?
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I am from Philly, so it didn't have that big city feel to me that I liked...I had a good friend there whose family lived in Seaford, they had a huge house, they own a paper supply company in Newport News. It was pretty cool while I was there, I used to bounce at a place called Hoss's in N.N., we would also go over to the other side of the peninsula and pick on the Navy guys...
Its a small world. O0
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Don't get me wrong, Hampton and Newport News are great cities too but I just prefer the county. How did you like the area when you were here?
I am from Philly, so it didn't have that big city feel to me that I liked...I had a good friend there whose family lived in Seaford, they had a huge house, they own a paper supply company in Newport News. It was pretty cool while I was there, I used to bounce at a place called Hoss's in N.N., we would also go over to the other side of the peninsula and pick on the Navy guys...
Its a small world. O0
Yeah brother, I know Hoss's. It's right down the road from me. Cool.
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Good Luck, Lance. I really like Virginia. I spent a lot of time in Norfolk during my Navy days. I got to know it pretty well & like it very much. I love Busch Gardens in Williamsburg. They give military members free admission. Awesome, huh? Think positively & you'll be fine. I'll keep my fingers crossed, just to be sure!!!
Hey YOSP, what do you mean "pick on the Navy guys"?
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Hey YOSP, what do you mean "pick on the Navy guys"?
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no comment :-X...those days are now over for me, with myself getting married in 3 months, I have to keep myself in check and out of trouble... :popo
I don't know if you can tell that well about my not so straight nose structure, and that is after surgery
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Yeah brother, I know Hoss's. It's right down the road from me. Cool.
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I also used to bartend at Linda's also, we used to go there all the time for dart tourney's, that is why I had to eventually leave, I was dating this girl there (N.N.) for a couple of years and that was the extent of our weekends, darts, there and Philly's...
I used to live right near the JRB.
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Well my sly bros; Just giving an update. I received an official letter from the city of Hampton the other day which is the city I was waiting to hear about the Chief's interview. They turned me down this time around. I have been talking to a few fireman that work for Hampton though and they told me that some guys who don't have any experience do get turned down their first go around. They told me to just reapply and go back through all the steps again to show that I am really interested in making this a career. They said the more they see my name and face it will really make a difference. They told me I would probably get picked up if I would just do it a second time. They said on average guys without experience usually get picked up on a second try. So I noticed that Hampton has already started a new hiring process and I went ahead and reapplied a few days ago and I've already gotten all the other paper work I need in order. I've registered to take the written test again the second week in July which is the first step in the process. I'll be starting from scratch but hopefully this time I'll get picked up. Then again I do still have my interview with Newport News nest Tuesday so I'm still in the running for that city. But if they also don't pick me up I'm all prepared to go through Hampton's process again. I'm not giving up until I get the job. Thank God I have such a supportive wife and of course the encouragement of all my sly bros. O0
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Speaking as a policeman, I wouldn't be discouraged. Reapply but also keep going at other agencies. Many of the departments play games, and again speaking as a lawman, I'm telling you many of the recruiting officers learn a hard lesson when they call back high quality applicants after the intial required "2d rejection" only to find the applicant has been hired "away" and is now working for another city or county.
The other aspect you must be aware of in gov employment and particulary fire departments and law enforcement is affirmative action. Your rejection might very well have NOTHING to do with your qualifications but only with your race and gender. A female applicant shut down the City of Austin, TX hiring of new fire fighters several years ago when she and her worthless parents sued the city for discrimination after she failed the physical testing. I believe she won and the city of Austin "dumbed down" the physical testing requirements so women(she in particular) could pass. I was sincerely praying that applicants whose acceptance was placed on hold during the "investigation of the discrimation" and lawsuit against the city, brought a class action law suit against this fine "future cadet" and her parents. I wouldn't be a firefighter for Austin, TX. The female fighter fighter backing you up might not be strong enough to lift a ladder off the truck and save a stranded firefighter (but by God, the city is PC....). It's sad.
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Speaking as a policeman, I wouldn't be discouraged. Reapply but also keep going at other agencies. Many of the departments play games, and again speaking as a lawman, I'm telling you many of the recruiting officers learn a hard lesson when they call back high quality applicants after the intial required "2d rejection" only to find the applicant has been hired "away" and is now working for another city or county.
The other aspect you must be aware of in gov employment and particulary fire departments and law enforcement is affirmative action. Your rejection might very well have NOTHING to do with your qualifications but only with your race and gender. A female applicant shut down the City of Austin, TX hiring of new fire fighters several years ago when she and her worthless parents sued the city for discrimination after she failed the physical testing. I believe she won and the city of Austin "dumbed down" the physical testing requirements so women(she in particular) could pass. I was sincerely praying that applicants whose acceptance was placed on hold during the "investigation of the discrimation" and lawsuit against the city, brought a class action law suit against this fine "future cadet" and her parents. I wouldn't be a firefighter for Austin, TX. The female fighter fighter backing you up might not be strong enough to lift a ladder off the truck and save a stranded firefighter (but by God, the city is PC....). It's sad.
Thanks for the kind words man. The Austin situation with the fire department sounds messed up. I agree with you. I'm all for equal rights and all that stuff but what is, is what is. If someone isn't physically strong enough to do a job then that's just it. It has nothing to do with them being male or female. By them lowering the physical test they are putting others in harms way.
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Sorry to hear about the initial rejection bro...but glad to hear you are continuing to pursue your dream. That is some sound advice about continuing the process with the same dept and the name/face recognition thing and it shows a true commitment to being a firefighter. Keep up the physical training, etc so that you can show them your sincere desire to excel at your chosen career. Best of luck O0
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Lance...I don't want to say anything that sounds like a bunch of BS words of wisdom. All I can say is that you still being persistent says a lot about your character and determination. Things have a strange way of working out.
gOOD LUCK BROTHER O0 O0
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Thanks to all for the continuing good words. O0
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Persistence will pay off!!! We are all behind ya!!! :@`
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Persistence will pay off!!! We are all behind ya!!! :@`
Thanks HC and nice to hear from you again.
By the way I had my Newport News panel interview today. Very stressful but I felt it went well. Hopefully I'll hear some good news in a few weeks. If not I'll just keep trying.
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It's great to be back...I've been away from the internet for a bit... :px
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It's great to be back...I've been away from the internet for a bit... :px
Glad to have you back. There's been too much "beast" around here and not enough "beauty."
Ok, ok...PBurke calm down. It's just a compliment. ;D ;D ;D
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Welcome back ... the testosterone level around here is getting pretty high with you and Magnababe gone
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Welcome back HK... nice to have you back with us...thought you left us for some hairy guys.
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Welcome back HK... nice to have you back with us...thought you left us for some hairy guys.
:o I would never leave my SLY's for Hair!!!!!!!!
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welcome back HC! good to see ya again! O0
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It's great to be back...I've been away from the internet for a bit... :px
she has arisen from the ashes of the phoenix and is now roaring back!! :@`
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2 echo the words of the other sly brahs... welcome back!!!
WARHAWK O0
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sorry...lance i was distracted by the beauty of hc that... i 4got 2 say that i'm praying 4 u and that i really admire your attitude. hope things work out 4 ya.
WARHAWK O0
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Welcome back HK... nice to have you back with us...thought you left us for some hairy guys.
:o I would never leave my SLY's for Hair!!!!!!!!
Good to see you around again!
Dudes...we have some sweet relish again...ok, for you Kajun our bun! ;)
Seriously, nice to see that pretty face again! O0
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sorry...lance i was distracted by the beauty of hc that... i 4got 2 say that i'm praying 4 u and that i really admire your attitude. hope things work out 4 ya.
WARHAWK O0
Sorry? For what bro? I you didn't get distracted by a beautiful lady like HC then you would need to apologize. >:D >:D >:D
Thanks for the prayers. O0
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you guys are really gonna swell her damn head. then i won't be able to do anything with her attitude. ha ha missed ya HC
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YOu guys really ROCK!!!!!!!! I love you all....so back to topic.....we are all behind you lance!!!!!!! :@`
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I'm pulling for you with the career job-- firefighting does get into your blood and can become very addictive. Just keep with the process and don't overly stress; it is a waiting game. A good friend who was career in Fairfax County, ended up relocating to the tidewater area due to his wife's job and felt the process was fair and straightforward. He is now serving with the Chesepeake FD and very happy.
Look foward to following your progress; remember. don't ever give up.
Ken
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I'm pulling for you with the career job-- firefighting does get into your blood and can become very addictive. Just keep with the process and don't overly stress; it is a waiting game. A good friend who was career in Fairfax County, ended up relocating to the tidewater area due to his wife's job and felt the process was fair and straightforward. He is now serving with the Chesepeake FD and very happy.
Look foward to following your progress; remember. don't ever give up.
Ken
Thanks for the kind words bro. I appreciate it. O0
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Hey Lance, welcome back. Glad to see you posting up again. What's up on the fire dept interview? Any updates?
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Hey Lance, welcome back. Glad to see you posting up again. What's up on the fire dept interview? Any updates?
Yeah, I'm glad to be back too. As a matter of fact the whole "fire department" and "job issue" with me is why I haven't been posting lately. Just wanted some alone time to sort things out because I'm getting a little stressed about the whole thing. The second city I interviewed with are taking their time getting in touch with me to let me know if they want me or not. They were supposed to get back with me within a few weeks. My interview was over a month ago. Where the process has taken longer than expected I have had more time to think about all the ends and outs. To be honest, I don't know if my heart is 100% in it anymore. But who knows? But I don't want to whine too much. Besides I know things always work out best in the end one way or the other so I'm not too worried. I have a great wife and a wonderful son who keep my chin up everyday. We all have our health and I can't ask for much more than that. Thanks for inquiring bro.
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I have mondo respect for firefighters(or firies as they are called in Australia). During some bad forest fires(or bushfires as they are called in Australia) last year the NSW Fire Brigade saved the homes of around 100 families when a careless driver through a cig butt out the window. Much of Australias eastern seaboard and inland is heavily forested and the fire fighters here are among the best in the world.
Good luck Lance in your endeavor with becoming a firefighter.
Thanks so much for the kind words. I have read a few of your posts before I started back on the forum and you seem like a good guy. Glad to have you here. Thanks for the encouragement. O0
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lance.... gr8 2 have ya back. the sbg forum wasn't the same without u. i'm gonna keep u in my prayers & hope things go your way. remember..... tough times don't last but tough people do!!!! c ya around the forum.
WARHAWK O0
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I have mondo respect for firefighters(or firies as they are called in Australia). During some bad forest fires(or bushfires as they are called in Australia) last year the NSW Fire Brigade saved the homes of around 100 families when a careless driver through a cig butt out the window. Much of Australias eastern seaboard and inland is heavily forested and the fire fighters here are among the best in the world.
Good luck Lance in your endeavor with becoming a firefighter.
Thanks so much for the kind words. I have read a few of your posts before I started back on the forum and you seem like a good guy. Glad to have you here. Thanks for the encouragement. O0
Just glad to be a part of it bud. O0
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Lance buddy, I know this is an old post and I just read it for the first time today. You are right..you have your family and health that is all that matters. But I do wish you alot of luck and prayers. Just hang in there...God never said life was going to be easy. What is awesome about the difficult times...is if you look back on all the times you struggled....how much have you grown? Its all a growing process, who knows...but God knows..he has what he wants for you planned out. Just live your life and enjoy it....if most of the time is spent in worry....you have wasted the greastest gift God has ever given you..your life and family!
Tak'er easy bro......prayin for ya
Tim
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...My interview was over a month ago....To be honest, I don't know if my heart is 100% in it anymore. But who knows?
Hey Lance...how's it going, brutha? Are you moving forward with the F.D.? Hang in there, man. I and my wife have been going through the whole STRESS OUT / FREAK OUT as to where to go from here. So I know how uncomfortable it can be, buddy.
For me it has led to me entering the process for the sheriff's dept. So I know how each phase and each waiting period is a real nail biter.
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Thanks for the encouragement bro and to everyone else that has always checked in here on little 'ol me. ;D For real though I am very appreciative. But just to give you an update I've sort of put the fire dept. on the back burner for now. I've had 2 cities turn me down and the processes are so freakin' long that it's just driving me crazy. Even though they keep advertising that they want people with no experience to train they keep taking people with volunteer time in. Or people that have some classes under their belts or certificates already. I've actually decided to go a different route. Well, as for now that is my plan. It's just a thought for now because really, who knows what tomorrow may bring? But anyway, I've been thinking of going back to school to become a registered nurse. It's something I had checked into a long time ago even before the firefighting idea came up. I just never acted on it. I wished I had back then because it would have made things a lot easier on me now. I'm getting ready to start an overnight job here soon to help catch us up on our built up bills. Once we get our funds straight again I'm going to check into the local community college that is right around the corner from me. I know right off there are going to be a handful of prerequisites I'm going to have to take. But if I do pursue this I will have a few options as far as the nursing program itself. The c.c. offers one on their campus and then there is a few local hospitals that offer the program. I've always enjoyed helping people as much as I can and I want to get some kind of satisfaction out of my job. Plus, from what I hear the pay isn't too shabby either. My sister is in the program now at the c.c. and my wife's friend just finished school. They both have confidence in me that I could do it despite how well I didn't do in high school. But like they said, and like I have said many of times, back then I didn't care about much. Now I have a family and my mind is in the right place. I've also gotten some very helpful advice and encouragement from another sly bro. Thanks for all the great feedback Warhawk. O0 Like I said though, it's only a thought right now. Who knows what can happen down the road?
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Hey Lance I'm sorry to hear that the Firefighter route didnt go as planned but who knows? It could still happen and I would encourage you keep at it if it something that you want to do. Life,as you know quite well, doesnt always follow a straight path that we are able to see. We have to do our best with everything and in your case,being there for your son and wife and take comfort in the love that you have for them.
I now work in a call centre after I had a falling out with my previous employer of 6 years. Never in 3 million years did I think I'd be in an office job but an opportunity presented itself so I took it. You just dont know whats on the other side of the door eh.
I wish you the best in all your endeavors bro.
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Like I said in my PM, Lance....at age 30 I only had a G.E.D. (didn't actually graduate H.S.)....goofed around BIG TIME in H.S.
Once you do well at the College level....especially getting an A.A. or B.A., high school don't matter anymore. I graduated with honors in college at age 34 and since then the G.E.D. in High School hasn't hurt me one lick. Moved on to masters level stuff (M.B.A. & M.Div.) at age 34 through 37 which has served me well though I have not yet finished a masters degree. Even after my B.A., I had to go back to C.C. to take care of prereqs for my M.B.A. work.
Also, financial struggles are the pits....VERY uncomfortable, man. When you and your wife get through them, it will make your marriage stronger. A lot of marriages end in divorce because of financial problems. Just allow them to make you BETTER not BITTER.
Nursing is an honorable field, bro. Do well in college (c.c. or otherwise) and you have plenty of time to make your future a bright one.
r.m.