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Title: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: Mikekoz13 on October 31, 2009, 07:50:20 PM
Guys.... I know there are some guys that ride bikes on the Forum....... including myself. I always wear a full face helmet even though there is no helmet law in Pennsylvania.

Last Sunday evening one of my best riding buddies hit a deer. He was only going about 35 miles an hour but he got thrown over the handle bars and wound up with a couple of broken ribs, a broken collar bone, a broken scapula and a collapsed lung.
He'll be fine but he's pretty beat up. When I went to see him the other day I saw the half shell helmet that he wears. One side of it was ground down about a 1/4 of a inch from skidding on the asphalt. It could have easily been his head.

This was just a reminder to me that our helmets are the single most important piece of gear we wear when we ride. I don't like to preach to other riders so I won't .... but PLEASE at least think seriously about becoming an all the time helmet rider.

The more helmet surrounding your head the better.......

Ride safe ......
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: D.A.L.U.I. on October 31, 2009, 07:55:26 PM
Haven't been on a bike since my oldest was concieved, 32+ years, but your words are true now and they were then and will be 30+ years from now--helmets bikers--wind on the skin may feel good briefly--riding feels better long term.
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: andrew on October 31, 2009, 08:46:32 PM
That's great advice Mike.  I stopped riding bikes (street and MX) after my best friend was killed on one at age 18.    He wasn't wearing a helmet ...

Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: basikbiker on October 31, 2009, 08:51:37 PM
Racing DH I wear a full face(Troy Lee 8) and wear a leatte brace as well.( device that combined witha full face limits your neck movement to prevent snappage). Seen people paralyzed from crashes. Always wear a helmet if you are actually gonna go ride.
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: basikbiker on October 31, 2009, 08:53:11 PM
And literally every time i swing a leg over my moto i slap a helmet on cause man those things are SCARY fun
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: aarrggh on November 01, 2009, 05:37:49 AM
    Hey :: Thanks for caring...Minnesota has fought hard too stop helmet laws over the years...Which is amazing since Minnesota is one of those official NANNY states........
    I`ve noticed that most Harley riders do not wear helmets and most ricers do wear them....So its probably 50/ 50 on the roadways.........
   Sure it would be smart too wear one at all times --but so many of us want too actually enjoy the ride.....Yeah most of the time i dont wear one but there are conditions when i know its a must...............
       Keep up the good posting .................          ;)
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: Mikekoz13 on November 01, 2009, 07:17:05 AM
I'm a Harley rider and always wear a full face. My current helmet is a modular which I like because the face can be flipped up...... but I'm getting ready to purchase a regular full face...... just because that is what I'm most comfortable with.

I catch some looks from old school Harley guiys now and then because of my helmet choice but I don't care....my head.

By the way AAARGH.... even with that helmet on, riding is full freedom to me..... and thanks for the compliment. O0
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: hammerdrill376 on November 01, 2009, 09:31:38 AM
Great advise. During our bike weeks in Myrtle Beach we usually have at least one person killed due to not wearing a helment. Albeit helments are now mandatory in the city limits of Myrtle Beach as part of our over zealous mayor and city coucils efforts to do away with bike week which they have almost suceeded in doing. That being said I did have a Masonic brother who was killed in spite of having full safety gear on. None the less the better protected the less chance of injury. My only desenting opinion is I still believe helment laws should be a matter of choice and not mandated. Give the government an inch...and they will take a mile.
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: jrppsuobx on November 01, 2009, 11:15:55 AM
I'm with Mike with helmets! Wear them !!! If not make sure you are an Organ donor! RIDE SAFE
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: Paul on November 01, 2009, 12:11:14 PM
Had a friend who always rode with full geat.  Hit a deer near sundown, threw her from her bike.  Killed her helmet and all.  If it's your time, it's your time.
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: Mikekoz13 on November 01, 2009, 12:12:37 PM
Had a friend who always rode with full geat.  Hit a deer near sundown, threw her from her bike.  Killed her helmet and all.  If it's your time, it's your time.

I fully agree but the idea is to tempt the Grim Reaper a little less............
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: D.A.L.U.I. on November 01, 2009, 03:44:57 PM
Had a friend who always rode with full geat.  Hit a deer near sundown, threw her from her bike.  Killed her helmet and all.  If it's your time, it's your time.

I fully agree but the idea is to tempt the Grim Reaper a little less............

Koz scores, tempting that guy never seems to work long term, and fun should be long term.
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: jamesh75 on November 01, 2009, 05:32:53 PM
Thanks for the post Koz.  I wear a half helmet almost all the time.  The only time I wear a full face is if it's cold out.  I do ride a Harley as well, and in my area, riding a Harley with a helmet on is the minority.  However, I am seeing more people with helmets this year than years past.  I've been on group runs before with 500 bikes and been the only one wearing a helmet.  But nobody has ever said a thing to me about it.  I figure its your head, and your choice.  I have two friends that have gone down and both hit their helmets on the ground pretty hard.  I can't say for sure that it saved their life, but I will say that it prevented a lot of extra pain and possibly some long term damage.  With more crazy drivers on the roads, I have been tempted to wear my full face more often.

I say all of this, but today I ran up to get some gas in the bike and didn't wear a helmet at all.  I'm an :/O
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: petree dish on November 02, 2009, 12:51:21 PM
People who don't wear helmets are idiots. And those little Harley skull caps don't count as helmets.

Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: tomgallagher on November 02, 2009, 01:41:37 PM
I used to work in the ER of a major hospital one of the prevalent jokes was "what do you call a motorcyclist that has been in an accident?...an organ donor."
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: Mikekoz13 on November 02, 2009, 03:50:58 PM
I used to work in the ER of a major hospital one of the prevalent jokes was "what do you call a motorcyclist that has been in an accident?...an organ donor."


HAR-DEE-HAR-HAR................. not funny at all...........................
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: Paul on November 02, 2009, 03:57:51 PM
But an individual should have the right to choose whether or not they want to wear a helmet.  It is just like seatbelt laws.   One more intrusion into the privacy and personal rights of the individual.   If I or anyone else doesn't want to wear a helmet OR a seat belt, that should be our choice.   Calling people names who choose, for personal freedom reasons, not to wear one sounds just like one more minority wanting to have their way, treadding on the of personal freedom of others
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: Mikekoz13 on November 02, 2009, 05:05:52 PM
But an individual should have the right to choose whether or not they want to wear a helmet.  It is just like seatbelt laws.   One more intrusion into the privacy and personal rights of the individual.   If I or anyone else doesn't want to wear a helmet OR a seat belt, that should be our choice.   Calling people names who choose, for personal freedom reasons, not to wear one sounds just like one more minority wanting to have their way, treadding on the of personal freedom of others

I agree 100%!
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: D.A.L.U.I. on November 02, 2009, 05:25:22 PM
But an individual should have the right to choose whether or not they want to wear a helmet.  It is just like seatbelt laws.   One more intrusion into the privacy and personal rights of the individual.   If I or anyone else doesn't want to wear a helmet OR a seat belt, that should be our choice.   Calling people names who choose, for personal freedom reasons, not to wear one sounds just like one more minority wanting to have their way, treadding on the of personal freedom of others

I agree 100%!

I like the freedom idea, but I'd couple it with responsibility--if you don't have insurance, and you engage in what can be considered risky behavior, find someone else to pay for your care, short and long term. 
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: tomgallagher on November 02, 2009, 05:26:34 PM
I wonder if there is anybody out there that was anti but are now pro due to these laws having saved their lives or that of a loved one.
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: hammerdrill376 on November 06, 2009, 03:51:04 AM
I have seen it both ways. As I stated I  had a friend who died in spite of the fact that he was wearing a full helment and other safety gear. No amount of protection on a bike will save someone when  Ford Expedition runs over them. I also knew of a girl years ago who could not get out of a burning car because her seat belt jammed after a crash. These are probably exceptions to the rule so to speak and in general wearing a seat belt and helment make sense. But I stand by the belief that it should be a choice and not government mandated. Little by little our freedoms of choice are being taken away. Remember the old story of how you cook a frog? You don't throw it in a pot of boiling water. Put it in a cool pan and slowwwwly turn up the heat. Next thing he knows...he's COOKED! That is what the government has done and is doing to America. Keep government out of our personal lives.
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: Mikekoz13 on November 06, 2009, 05:16:27 AM
Even though I wear a helmet I do believe it should be each individual rider's choice.
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: jamesh75 on November 06, 2009, 07:23:45 AM
Yep, it should be the riders choice.  I wear one, but my dad has been riding over 40 years and I've only seen him with a helmet a handful of times.  It's his choice.  I have friends that wear helmets, and others that don't.  I'm not going to harp on the ones that don't.
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: 440satellite on November 06, 2009, 09:33:36 PM
I'm 100% with you guys that it should be the riders option to either use or not use the safety gear, both in a car and on the bike.  Personally I always wear a full face helmet and have yet to get any grief about it, not that it would change anything.  HD is the predominant bike people own in my area, so owning a ricer I get more grief about it than I do the helmet.  I don't have any desire to have a Harley but to each their own, although my HD owning buddies and I have some pretty good discussions pointing out the weak points of eachothers machines.  ;D 
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: petree dish on November 21, 2009, 09:24:22 AM
Sure it can be a personal choice. I honestly have a difficult time understanding why anyone who rides ther bike with any balls would not wear one though. Then again, I only ride sportbikes..
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: buddha on November 21, 2009, 11:32:24 AM
Little bit of info that I learned late in my riding career: If your helmet takes an impact it is time to discard it and buy a new one. They are only designed to take one good jolt and then the structural integrity becomes compromised.
Title: Re: Wear that Helmet!
Post by: Mikekoz13 on November 21, 2009, 01:56:39 PM
Little bit of info that I learned late in my riding career: If your helmet takes an impact it is time to discard it and buy a new one. They are only designed to take one good jolt and then the structural integrity becomes compromised.

Buddha is exactly right guys. I read an article that said if you drop your helmet from as little as three feet the structural integrity is probably ruined. This means you need a replacement.

Also.... I recently read an article about DOT, SNELL, and the European ECE ratings. It made me rethink my whole idea of helmet safety. Apparently a lot of people now believe that a SNELL rating may be more harmful than good. It seems the HARDER the helmet (SNELL) the less energy is dissipated on impact...not a good thing for your head.

I did a little further digging and it looks like a helmet that has both the DOT and ECE ratings may be your best bet for safety. Any helmet I buy in the future will have these ratings.