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Sly Bald Guys Info => Site Suggestions => Topic started by: ShavedForNow on July 06, 2009, 11:11:10 AM
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I understand why the rules are currently set up the way they are, but there seem to be a lot of members here who are interested in these kinds of issues.
If there were to be such a forum, I think there should be an understanding that the participants are allowed to get a little mud on one another - without getting TOO extreme - and then go back and play nice on the rest of the site. Most of the guys around here seem to be mature enough to handle that.
There would also have to be a rule against insulting any group of people or any individual other than a public figure.
Just my $0.02.
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It has been tried before and we've found that it drives wedges in the brotherhood and takes away from the real purpose of this site. If you're looking or a good political discussion, try out the forum at http://www.treesandthings.com.
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It has been tried before and we've found that it drives wedges in the brotherhood and takes away from the real purpose of this site.
That's a shame. I would have thought the bro's knew how to respect different opinions.
On another note, thanks for recommending Trees & Things. I like their member-moderation approach: it's rare (if not unique) among political forums.
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I agree with Tyler. While I do respect the feelings and opinions of my liberal SBG brothers ( I am for the most part conservative) it seems that anytime the a political discussion comes up things get nasty. So there are definantely other websites more well suited for discussions like that.
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thank goodness! The LAST thing this great board needs is politics. So few boards transcend our political opinions. Let's leave this one as it is...:)
Thanks,
Brett
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I agree ! THANK GOODNESS--- you don`t want me too get started on my new clown senator out here in minnesota--------OH MY :x! Im outta here #**p
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Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I agree ! THANK GOODNESS--- you don`t want me too get started on my new clown senator out here in minnesota--------
I sympathize: here in California in the 60s and 70s we had to put up with a clown governor who made his money playing poombah to Bonzo the chimpanzee in Hollywood. ;D
I see the tribe has spoken, so I'll shut up about the idea now. B3M3
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I deal with enough politics at work, so no...also no religion forums. There have been threads started about religion and it only leads to problems. Everything has its place and time.
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Aaaahhhh . . . the shining domes of wisdom. ;)
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Politics and religon are two of the most dangerous topics to have on a forum. Tyler knew, in his youthful but infinite wisdom, what he was doing when he established guidelines regarding those issues.
I deal with enough politics at work, so no...also no religion forums. There have been threads started about religion and it only leads to problems. Everything has its place and time.
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I sympathize: here in California in the 60s and 70s we had to put up with a clown governor who made his money playing poombah to Bonzo the chimpanzee in Hollywood. ;D
I see the tribe has spoken, so I'll shut up about the idea now. B3M3
Too bad you had to insert your parting shot at Reagan... I thought you understood that politics was off limits, but obviously you couldn't resist. This is exactly why politics are banned. And yes, I have had things removed too, but from the opposite end of your political spectrum.
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Too bad you had to insert your parting shot at Reagan... I thought you understood that politics was off limits, but obviously you couldn't resist. This is exactly why politics are banned. And yes, I have had things removed too, but from the opposite end of your political spectrum.
No, Stu, the point of my last remark was not to take a parting shot at Reagan, but to mimic aarrggh's parting shot at Franken. (Gee, I wonder why you didn't chastise him?)
It should be obvious from this thread that I'm not interested in unilaterally violating the rule against political discussion. I simply made an honest, straightforward, lobbying effort for a part of the forum where that rule wouldn't apply. Apparently several other members don't want such an area, so I backed off.
Personally, I can throw wicked punches in the boxing ring and later behave like a perfect gentleman at the dinner table with all my sparring partners. Unfortunately, not everyone can make that clean separation. If they could, arguments on political or religious forums wouldn't spill over into the rest of a site.
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As a politically active person on the web and beyond I have more than enough places to post and to vent .
Nobody changes the mindset of others who feel differently and trying to usually creates problems.
It's good politics is left to a minimum here. Everyone here gets along that way. I say hail to the Mods! They are Sly & Smart.
^^*d
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I think even this short forum makes it CRYSTAL clear that Tyler's rule need not be changed.
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Previously I gave a recommendation to have a religious section.
Just like you ShavedForNow, I thought everybody would be respectable and
that given that most people here are adults, I thought it would be simple. Everyone
would be respectful.
Little did I know that I would have to delete that entire topic myself. Some members
who hardly make any contributions to this site were very much against it calling
religion fiction :/O
So unfortunately things like religion and politics tend to bring out there worst out of people sometimes . cheers.
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Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dittoooooo!
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Previously I gave a recommendation to have a religious section.
Just like you ShavedForNow, I thought everybody would be respectable and
that given that most people here are adults, I thought it would be simple. Everyone
would be respectful.
Little did I know that I would have to delete that entire topic myself. Some members
who hardly make any contributions to this site were very much against it calling
religion fiction :/O
So unfortunately things like religion and politics tend to bring out there worst out of people sometimes . cheers.
That is too bad, Math Guy. Even most religious people understand that religion isn't logical or scientific by nature, but that doesn't stop people from having fascinating discussions about theology, or about religious writings as literature. Like Galileo said, "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Oh, well. :(
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nope...not here.
Personally, I am very passionate about politics. I have found over the years that most* people are very closed minded about thier political views. In some cases, rightly so. Much like abortion, nothing one person says is going to change the mind or opinion of another. As others have suggested, there are many websites and forums on the www to discuss politics. I think this thread is reason enough to end the conversation. Just my 2 cents.
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PLEASE! NO. No offense. No body will agree and it will do nothing but spark bickering.
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Definitely not. They ALWAYS get out of hand!!
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Yes agreed. Politics and religion.
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Just what we need. A place to snarl and snipe and sneer. To get hot under the collar and pontificate and tear our hair (well, maybe not that).
As a despotic autocrat, however, Ming is above politics...
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No I don't think that is a good idea. This is a great site with very good people.Politics and Religion talk will bring it down.
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No bald head, like a father of our (US) country who was a skullet, it just doesn't work. It may be that our brothers from outside the US can handle it, but right now, we bald guys in the US are in a very divisive and polarized society--so it must not even be considered. It's not what we want but it's what we've got.
Saintc
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Whats to discuss ..... You have your beliefs and I have mine and neither of us is going to change the other. b0x3r
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I feel that adding these sub-sections to a site dedidated to coping with baldness would reduce the frequency of quality posts on the subject, replacing them with things totally unrelated to the issues that originally drew most of us here.
I realize that it would be convenient to have ONE website where you can look up things about head shaving, talk about politics, and share prayer requests, or talk about anything on your mind. Oh, wait....
www.facebook.com
That's where you need to be if you want an all-inclusive internet wormhole within which to bury yourself.
Here, the primary focus is about man issues from the neck up.
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I'd I like to say that I give all us sly guys on this forum the benefit of the doubt and say that we are all adults who are capable of civilized debate and argumentative discourse toward a higher level of understanding amongst ourselves and through so doing could achieve an even more close-knit community via sharing our respective political views.
I'd LIKE to say that. But it's a hot button. And everyone is capable of saying (typing) things they don't always mean in the heat of the moment. :o
I mean a part of what makes this forum great is that we DO share so much of our lives and interests with one another. While the main thrust of the conversation still revolves around baldness, head shaving and related topics, we also talk about our hobbies, likes, dislikes, movies, music, relationships, etc. So an forum for politics seems like a natural outgrowth of that sharing. And there have been topics posted from time to time that do involved political and religious opinions, for the most part without incident.
All that said, I do belong to another online forum that simply added a section that they call "Fight Club". This is where they put any and all topics that may prove volatile. It's a no holds barred arena for sensitive issues and everyone agrees that what is discussed in and happens in "Fight Club", stays in "Fight Club". No carrying the discussion or disagreements over into other parts of the forum. Sort of a gentleman's agreement. These rules are or course, enforced by the moderators. :x!
This may not ultimately be the right answer for SBG, but it's worth thought.
Though, with the wonderous diversity of the internet outside the SBG forums, we may be safer to just error on the side of caution and leave such discussions off the forums entirely. :)
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Political discussions, despite the best of intentions, always get out of hand. Also, the printed word does not carry the emotions of the ones spoken. Hence, something comes across in the reader's frame of mind; the intentions of the poster may or may not come across.
Politics is best left to a board intended for that purpose, or to be discussed in PM's.
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I say no, for all the reasons previously mentioned. :Xo!
It's not what this forum is about and it would degrade quickly. Some people have enough on their plate trying to decide on whether shave, buzz, combover, do drugs rugs and plugs, etc. 8)
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Well, this thread just goes to show you, nothing ever dies and goes away here, this one set dormant for nice (9) months before it was resurrected.
So, as for me, sure, why not? A politics forum can be ignored, passed over, etc. just as easily as any other can. I'm sure we all don't bother looking at a good share of the forums on here.
And anyway, we wouldn't even have to leave the State of Illinois for a hot debate on our politics.
Can you say, Blagojevich, Stratton, Ryan, Burris?
I can just see the eyes rolling, and the Oh Nos!! being uttered.
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I am out with different people all the time and unless they are :
Republican W A S P - -I will never talk religion or politics
And that is how I keep my friends - -and it works
The most fun is when a few of us - - -SLY BALD guys are together - - -we talk: SLICK MELON TALK
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I repeat: Hell, no!
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I repeat: Hell, no!
I echo the bear!
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I repeat: Hell, no!
I echo the bear!
Ditto what the bear said!
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I hate politics and politicians even more period and they have no business on this board and it's the last thing I want to hear. The 'not-giving-a-!@#$' meter is as far into the red-zone as ever before in regards to politics.
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While I may have voted NO earlier, I change that to a YES. We used to shake things up in here every once in a while. Now, everyone is so well-behaved.... I know the rules have been established already and this decision is not genuinely open for debate, but it might be fun if someone kicked the bees nest every once in a while to keep things interesting.
Ok.. back to being polite.
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Oh yeah! Well, well, well....
I was gonna try to say something disparaging about your head just to "kick the bee's nest", but I can't. Your head is just too perfect.
Let's try this: "Hey, dude! Your shirt is blue!" So there!
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I've noticed in looking over a lot of past threads and posts that both politics and religion are already present on the forum, just not in any kind of a dedicated way.
Members make 'prayer requests', give 'cultural' information and slip there own political leanings into their posts. The conversations may not be directly aimed at being "political" or "religious" in nature, but it slips in none the less. We may not use the buzz words, or come right out and make declarative statements on those issues, but that doesn't mean it's not there.
Not a vote either way. Just an observation.
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Oh yeah! Well, well, well....
I was gonna try to say something disparaging about your head just to "kick the bee's nest", but I can't. Your head is just too perfect.
Let's try this: "Hey, dude! Your shirt is blue!" So there!
Ok Bear... this is war. I see you're wearing an "Army" shirt. Well, I prefer the "Navy". How's that for mud-slinging?
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Oh yeah! Well, well, well....
I was gonna try to say something disparaging about your head just to "kick the bee's nest", but I can't. Your head is just too perfect.
Let's try this: "Hey, dude! Your shirt is blue!" So there!
Ok Bear... this is war. I see you're wearing an "Army" shirt. Well, I prefer the "Navy". How's that for mud-slinging?
Oooooooo, is there going to be a fight?
Anyway, I feel the need to vote yes on this one. Politics, fortunately or not, is part of our daily lives. I think we're all big enough to talk about it in here, lick our wounds, and get back to the business of shaving our heads. And like somebody said earlier, if a person dislikes the occasional political discussion they can always choose to not get involved. But the nature of the posts in this thread indicates that there are definitely strong feelings among our ranks regarding the political arena.
Whether or not a space is created for politics will not affect my attendance either way. I just don't see it as such a potential disaster as some think it would be. And like Vash said there are plenty of thinly veiled references to politics and religion in any case.
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Have to reiterate a no--bc of the purpose of the place. SBG is not an American website, it's history grows out of American ingenuity--take a bow Tyler--but the membership is world wide, predominately English speaking, or should I say "attempted" English by the American brothers >:D.
Thus politics is not only capable of bringing out strong views but also could let nationalism get between the international relationships that are daily becoming more of a part of this site. It also engages guys of every race, religious creed and sect. So, due to the world wide appeal of SBG, in my opinion we need to focus on our common bond--sly.
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If you have been a member here long enough you have undoubtedly seen differences in opinion turn ugly, and on topics much more trivial than politics.
So
NO
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no
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If you have been a member here long enough you have undoubtedly seen differences in opinion turn ugly, and on topics much more trivial than politics.
So
NO
Well stated! O0
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As Vash was stating, we do get a little bit into politics and religion in a roundabout way. I would vote no on a overt "Politics" board. As for the "Prayer Requests", I think that is ok as usually there is not a requirement that one be Christian or any other faith to participate in that. While I won't hide the fact that I am a Christian, I also will not use this board to to people who don't agree with Christianity. That is not the purpose of this board. I am the type to agree to disagree agreeably!
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ABSOLUETELY NOT
i get sick in the stomach after reading the opinion section of my local newspaper section, i live in a town of 60,000 people ,my local newspaper the Loveland Reporter Herald has a call in line, and these sections take one to two pages of the newspaper, and it is full of ranting and raving, i get very angry when i read that part of the newspaper, i have to always go for a bike ride after reading the paper to try and calm down.