Sly Bald Guys Forum
Discussions About Being Bald => Tattoos and Piercings => Topic started by: IMSLY on June 21, 2009, 04:33:36 PM
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Welcome to the Forum JM! I'm not sure I undertsand you rational but to each his own.
Personally I recommend being comfortable with who and what you are as a man..... everything else..... well you get the idea.......
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gotta be a joke or spam
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he's got to be kiding, no?
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So, I have a tattoo that I got in Jacksonville, NC fresh out of boot camp. This was about 13 years ago and it is already fading. Cheap/bad tattoo? Yeah perhaps, however, what do you think the "follicles" would look like in 13 years? I would wait around to see if it winds up being an issue w/ tatooed follicles. Would rather be bald than have green hair, ya know?
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Again, this is just another short term fix to a a confidence problem. Down the road you are going to see fading and people are going to be able to tell that it's not a real shadow. Especially during a head rub. In the long run, a person will be disappointed with the results, just like a hair transplant and other "solutions."
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Welcome jidcman. As Mike says to each his own, but adding something artificial would seem to defeat the whole purpose of being sly, and that is being confident and comfortable with who you are.
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Thank you all for your prompt replies, i think i set myself up for this one, i saw it coming... i'll get back with you guys tomorrow, i have to get up really early so i better go to sleep.
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Welcome !
Each to their own, and I get the feeling this is very much the way this forum sees things, but I would never go down the road of getting a shadow tattoo engraved on my head. My concerns would be that you would be heading to the laser clinic in a few years to have the thing burnt off. Some go to endless trouble not to have a shadow, shadow is one thing, but keep it natural.
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To each their own, but since you're newly sly, I think you need to think about what Jimmy Buffett sang, a tattoo is a permanent reminder of a temporary state of mind. I think as you become familiar w/ the new guy in the mirror, this urge will go away. Not to rush, until you've enjoyed the Sly Side for a while is my thought, but it is your head and dome.
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In looking at the various pics on their site I an see some are a bit too artificial looking. There are a couiple where they did the temples that are a bit strange. But there are one or two that seem almost undetectable. The best use for this I did see was on a guy who had done punch graft transplants years before and so had little dots on the back where no hair grew. These were filled in just on the back of his head very nicely by the tatoo process. So as a remedy for those that had transplants in the past and see the folly of there decision, this is a great process to allow at least a clipper shave or super small stubble look without the obvious donor area exposed for everyone to laugh at.
In our US culture I can actually see this makig money as odd as it sounds. I thought the pics where the ink used was much lighter in color were better than the dark black ink. Some hairlines were too perfect and too far forward but the others that were more subdued would not be obvious as ink from what I saw. As one ages and the remaining hair turns white I can see guys going in for more to have a darker shadow even in very old age...perhaps shaving off the white/grey in favor of the inked on hair stubble. Starnger things have sold.
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i'd rank this up there with a facial tattoo. To each his own i guess.
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Hey guys,
This is my first posting so, first off all i want to thank you all for giving me the courage to go sly bald, I'm 31 years old and have been suffering hair loss since my early 20's and it got noticeable by age 25 which is when i started minoxidil 5% and used it for about four years, then i got kind of an allergic reaction, then tried Finasteride 1% for exactly 9 months (i stared right after my wife got pregnant and baby girl is now 3 weeks old) so baby was born wed. and i shaved it all two days later, "new baby, new me!!!".
I've looked for Hair Follicle Replication Technique Tattoo in the forums but the closest forum i could find was shaved head implants, therefore i saw the need to start a new topic.
I feel a lot better now that I'm sly bald, i got nothing to hide and i can now enjoy the outdoors without worrying about my head getting so sweaty that the little bit of hair that i had in the top of my head was getting a disappearing effect from being wet.
However, i think i would prefer to see a shadow in the top of my head and not only on the sides, that's when i got across a website that is offering a Hair Follicle Replication Technique Tattoo, is a British company based in Birmingham, AL, they have been using medical tattooing to simulate the appearance of a closely shaved head. supposedly they are coming to the US by the end of this month, First to California and then to Florida.
I know that most of you guys want to get rid of the shade, but I'm pretty sure there's some like me that would like to have a naturally looking shadow, so please let me know if you guys think this is a really bad idea or if it could be an affordable and more importantly somewhat natural way to accomplish that.
Before you guys jump to say, how about when you start getting gray hair? i thought of that, so i went to their website FAQ and supposedly they can match Grey hair when that happens, they have pics of some men whit gray hair so i know they've done it.
some of their costumers pics look really good and others not so much, so i guess it all depends on the style that you pick, i would keep some receding lines to make it look as natural as possible, unlike most of the pics you'll see.
Thank you all in advance.
I'm not posting the website because I'm not sure if that's against the rules, but if you Google "head tattoo hair loss" you'll find it.
Hi. I saw that site, too. But actually I found a better one in Florida that also does this. And their photos look better, too. It's not such a large company just looking to make a buck, it a small veteran owned company. I'm not sure about posting the website either, but check out Artistry Concepts Hair Replication, I think it's a name something like that. I am going to look again myself. I'm with you, I would do this if and when I find someone reputable.
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I'd rank this up there as ridiculously trying in vain. What a shame that they can't find the confidence from within. Why can't guys just be comfortable with themselves?! :/O
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This is extra vain and a shadow kinda (not completly) fades out after a while no need for a tat to add shadow. But to each his own
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Whoa hold on... for those of us who did not see the Sly light when we were young and stupid and had hair/skin pieces cut off the sides/backs of our heads and moved to the top this is huge. Some of us here, very few I know, were insecure 15 years ago before Sly was popular and normal. So this process, used ONLY in the area where we have scarred/discolored donor skin areas that make us look extremely strange when buzzed/shaved need this process.
I have no wish to design an entire front hairline or fill in the top. I only want the sides/back where the skin has healed in a different color and surrounded by hair bearing stubbled areas that sort of look like a checkerboard pattern, filled in.
97% of the guys here have very normal non-surgically altered scalp skin and dont need this. The other 3% of us do need this process. There is a pic of a hair transplant guy's back donor area on these Replication websites you need to look at before you condemn this process.
And yes hair transplants were the SINGLE DUMBEST & MOST INSECURE thing I ever did in my whole life.
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The comments in this thread on this board are, for the lack of a better word, hypocritical. And I don't mean to knock anyone here with that statement because it's a very prevalent attitude to this issue.
What I've come to notice is that if someone wants to modify their appearance in such a way that the result looks totally natural the actions are consistently insulted.
"They don't have any self-confidence!"
"That person isn't secure with himself!"
"They're just a victim of the media's ideal image of a man/woman or someone slick advertising!"
However when someone wants to modify their appearance to create an unnatural look the reactions are often quite different.
"That person is confident!"
"They're expressing their individuality!"
For example, if an old guy dyes his gray hair to a color he likes then "he's not confident with himself" and he's "caught up in the media's ideal of youth". However if that same man were to get a tattoo or ear gauges the reactions would be very different. Others might express dislike at the choice, but the man himself will be praised for his take-charge attitude. Why the difference?
Look at this board. Shave or laser off your hair and you're a hero who is taking command of his destiny, but if you were to fight baldness then suddenly you're a victim of external pressures and your own lack of self-confidence. There is no difference between the two.
The truth of the matter is we're all capable of making our own preferences and sometimes our genetics don't comply with our own ideals. So what's so wrong about changing them? To remain topical here, I think shows FAR more self-confidence for a man to fight to save the hair he likes than to settle for baldness - a look he does not like. And I'd say the same thing about a guy who cannot shave due to scalp sensitivity if he seeks out alternative hair removal procedures instead of throwing in the towel and regrowing his hair.
Of course numerous other factors play along here (like finances, technological limitations etc), but I hope my point came out. It is hypocritical to condemn some body modification procedures as a sign of a character flaw while praising others.
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I don't think that I have any problem with people wanting to have this procedure done. However I think that you would have to think seriously about how this is gonna look in the long term, as if it ends up looking unnatural then it will probably be the same sort of thing as having scars from hair transplants.
I can see the use for those wanting to hide evidence of previous hair transplants, but its probably a cheaper and safer road to go down by not changing what you were given than ending up with something that looks hideous in the long run.
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The comments in this thread on this board are, for the lack of a better word, hypocritical. And I don't mean to knock anyone here with that statement because it's a very prevalent attitude to this issue.
What I've come to notice is that if someone wants to modify their appearance in such a way that the result looks totally natural the actions are consistently insulted.
"They don't have any self-confidence!"
"That person isn't secure with himself!"
"They're just a victim of the media's ideal image of a man/woman or someone slick advertising!"
However when someone wants to modify their appearance to create an unnatural look the reactions are often quite different.
"That person is confident!"
"They're expressing their individuality!"
For example, if an old guy dyes his gray hair to a color he likes then "he's not confident with himself" and he's "caught up in the media's ideal of youth". However if that same man were to get a tattoo or ear gauges the reactions would be very different. Others might express dislike at the choice, but the man himself will be praised for his take-charge attitude. Why the difference?
Look at this board. Shave or laser off your hair and you're a hero who is taking command of his destiny, but if you were to fight baldness then suddenly you're a victim of external pressures and your own lack of self-confidence. There is no difference between the two.
The truth of the matter is we're all capable of making our own preferences and sometimes our genetics don't comply with our own ideals. So what's so wrong about changing them? To remain topical here, I think shows FAR more self-confidence for a man to fight to save the hair he likes than to settle for baldness - a look he does not like. And I'd say the same thing about a guy who cannot shave due to scalp sensitivity if he seeks out alternative hair removal procedures instead of throwing in the towel and regrowing his hair.
Of course numerous other factors play along here (like finances, technological limitations etc), but I hope my point came out. It is hypocritical to condemn some body modification procedures as a sign of a character flaw while praising others.
I see the point you are trying to make, but I don't think the logic is as sound as you make it. For example, procedures like hair transplants and shadow tattoos are permanent modifications that offer only short-term confidence solutions. Hair transplants are eventually revealed due to the remainder of your hair falling out (that and many of them just don't look natural) and shadow tattoos are eventually going to fade. Both leaving the person in a worse situation than when they started.
Shaving your head on the other hand provides long-term confidence solutions using a technique that is temporary (your hair grows back). At anytime you can go back to your original situation if you deem is necessary.
Also, hair transplants and shadow tattoos are not natural looking, especially in the long run.
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What can I say? I'm 100% with Hookem on this one! I love my bald head too much to do anything pernament like tatooing! Shadow is only a natural part of what I am trying to achieve! Bald is beautiful....whether by choice or not!!!
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What I've come to notice is that if someone wants to modify their appearance in such a way that the result looks totally natural the actions are consistently insulted.
"They don't have any self-confidence!"
"That person isn't secure with himself!"
"They're just a victim of the media's ideal image of a man/woman or someone slick advertising!"
However when someone wants to modify their appearance to create an unnatural look the reactions are often quite different.
"That person is confident!"
"They're expressing their individuality!"
I see the point you are trying to make, but I don't think the logic is as sound as you make it. For example, procedures like hair transplants and shadow tattoos are permanent modifications that offer only short-term confidence solutions. Hair transplants are eventually revealed due to the remainder of your hair falling out (that and many of them just don't look natural) and shadow tattoos are eventually going to fade. Both leaving the person in a worse situation than when they started.
Shaving your head on the other hand provides long-term confidence solutions using a technique that is temporary (your hair grows back). At anytime you can go back to your original situation if you deem is necessary.
Also, hair transplants and shadow tattoos are not natural looking, especially in the long run.
You missed 2 big points that I was making.
The first of which is that there's this automatic assumption that there's a problem with a person's confidence if they seek out medical procedures to restore their hair. There are lots of people on this board with full heads of hair who sly themselves because they like the look. Why do we automatically assume that those who want to restore their hair do so because they lack confidence? Chances are, many want to restore their hair because they like their hair just like many of us like our shaved heads.
You also brought up the concept of these procedures being permanent, which is entirely true, but what about the permanent solutions to the curse of being of hairy scalp? There are numerous threads dedicated to the permanent laser hair removal procedure and tweezing which is known to cause permanent damage to the ability to grow hair if done long enough. I have not seen one post in any of those threads implying psychological weakness on the part of the participant.
So, again, why is it a sign of a lack of confidence if one person does not like their appearance and performs a permanent medical procedure to get the opposite look while it is a sign of confidence for others who do not like their appearance to perform a permanent medical procedure to get the opposite look? Is it because many guys who go bald go into an emotional depression? If so, I still don't think all balding guys seeking transplants should be assumed to belong to that group.
As far as I'm concerned, the only real difference here is that those seeking hair transplants risk finding thelseves with an island of hair surrounded by baldness as their baldness progresses, but that is an actual tangible drawback and not simply a critique upon the person's state of mind. To me it's obvious that our personal bias to loving our shaved noggins is blinding many to the bigger picture of being accepting, or even encouraging, to those with the confidence to make permanent changes to their bodies instead of just settling for what genetics handed them. Whether it's hair transplants, laser hair removal, or nose jobs I've always found the whole concept fascinating (well, everything except for those bas****s who laser off their facial hair :) ).
(FYI: In case I came across like an a** or a troll it was not my intention, but I've been told that I seem to lose tact when I express myself in written form.)
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Hey guys, thought I would chime in on this one... My particular point is that aside from some of the results looking ridiculous, is that from everything my tat artist said (his scalp is covered completely with tats), scalp tattooing is the most painful tattoo you can get. He's covered in almost every inch of his body, and he said by far the worst was his head. I think that if you want the shadow, go for it. If you are comfortable with just a shiny head, go for it. Personally, I think the excessive pain is enough to keep me out of that arena even if I wanted the shadow. I'm no wuss, but taking care of a full-head tattoo for 2 weeks sounds like my idea of torture.
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I kinda like the thought of my first tattoo being on the back of my head, but work would not like it at all. Sometimes it sucks being an office worker.
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You missed 2 big points that I was making.
The first of which is that there's this automatic assumption that there's a problem with a person's confidence if they seek out medical procedures to restore their hair. There are lots of people on this board with full heads of hair who sly themselves because they like the look. Why do we automatically assume that those who want to restore their hair do so because they lack confidence? Chances are, many want to restore their hair because they like their hair just like many of us like our shaved heads.
1. Both people who shave their heads and get transplants do it because they want more confidence.
2. Sly Bald Guys do not not say that a guy is being confident by shaving their head, we are saying that he will be MORE confident as a result of shaving his head due to going bald.
3. Shaving your head is the same as getting a haircut, so a guy with a full head of hair or that is partially bald is just getting a hair cut that provides him more confidence; not a medical procedure.
4. I also don't think we say that guys have psychological issues because they get a transplant. They just made a bad choice in choosing something that doesn't provide what they are seeking in the long-term.
You also brought up the concept of these procedures being permanent, which is entirely true, but what about the permanent solutions to the curse of being of hairy scalp? There are numerous threads dedicated to the permanent laser hair removal procedure and tweezing which is known to cause permanent damage to the ability to grow hair if done long enough. I have not seen one post in any of those threads implying psychological weakness on the part of the participant.
So, again, why is it a sign of a lack of confidence if one person does not like their appearance and performs a permanent medical procedure to get the opposite look while it is a sign of confidence for others who do not like their appearance to perform a permanent medical procedure to get the opposite look? Is it because many guys who go bald go into an emotional depression? If so, I still don't think all balding guys seeking transplants should be assumed to belong to that group.
As far as I'm concerned, the only real difference here is that those seeking hair transplants risk finding thelseves with an island of hair surrounded by baldness as their baldness progresses, but that is an actual tangible drawback and not simply a critique upon the person's state of mind. To me it's obvious that our personal bias to loving our shaved noggins is blinding many to the bigger picture of being accepting, or even encouraging, to those with the confidence to make permanent changes to their bodies instead of just settling for what genetics handed them. Whether it's hair transplants, laser hair removal, or nose jobs I've always found the whole concept fascinating (well, everything except for those bas****s who laser off their facial hair :) ).
(FYI: In case I came across like an a** or a troll it was not my intention, but I've been told that I seem to lose tact when I express myself in written form.)
I will give you something on the laser hair removal. Though, I still think this is less of a bad decision than a hair transplant. For example, most guys get laser hair removal because they have found that the "hairless" look gives them more confidence than a "hairy" look and by getting their hair lasered off, it makes it easier to keep that look. They aren't trying to achieve a hairy look only to find out later that "oops, the rest of my hair is falling out."
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Good points all around Tyler and I agree 100%. O0
It basically comes down to being comfortable in your own skin, no pun intended.
Confidence comes as a result of allowing yourself to be just that; yourself.
No amount of falsification is going to duplicate that.
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You missed 2 big points that I was making.
The first of which is that there's this automatic assumption that there's a problem with a person's confidence if they seek out medical procedures to restore their hair. There are lots of people on this board with full heads of hair who sly themselves because they like the look. Why do we automatically assume that those who want to restore their hair do so because they lack confidence? Chances are, many want to restore their hair because they like their hair just like many of us like our shaved heads.
1. Both people who shave their heads and get transplants do it because they want more confidence.
2. Sly Bald Guys do not not say that a guy is being confident by shaving their head, we are saying that he will be MORE confident as a result of shaving his head due to going bald.
3. Shaving your head is the same as getting a haircut, so a guy with a full head of hair or that is partially bald is just getting a hair cut that provides him more confidence; not a medical procedure.
4. I also don't think we say that guys have psychological issues because they get a transplant. They just made a bad choice in choosing something that doesn't provide what they are seeking in the long-term.
I agree that many make these changes because they lack self confidence, but we should not forget that many make these changes because they HAVE self confidence. Lots of it. Perhaps to a cocky degree that's so obnoxious it's just as bad as having no self confidence at all. So while some make these changes because they are afraid of how the world will see them, others believe in taking charge; forming an opinion and seeing it through.
For example, you could have one guy who gets implants because "I'll never get a girl and my life's gonna suck because I'll never even get a promotion. I suck so I might as well be bald" while another guy says "This is my hairstyle, and I'll be damned if genetics are going to take it away from me".
In our example of people lasering off their hair I doubt it's a sign of a lack of confidence. On the contrary! In the cases I've read about here it seems more like a sign of find it a sign of extreme confidence! These guys have decided they love the sly look and they are making a bold commitment in making it a lifelong style. That's confidence my friend! The very definition! Now if we had people saying "Being bald is alright but I have this visible MPB hairline and I know people are looking at it and laughing at me and I can't get a girl because they know I'm just some bald guy...." then it would be a different story.
You also brought up the concept of these procedures being permanent, which is entirely true, but what about the permanent solutions to the curse of being of hairy scalp? There are numerous threads dedicated to the permanent laser hair removal procedure and tweezing which is known to cause permanent damage to the ability to grow hair if done long enough. I have not seen one post in any of those threads implying psychological weakness on the part of the participant.
So, again, why is it a sign of a lack of confidence if one person does not like their appearance and performs a permanent medical procedure to get the opposite look while it is a sign of confidence for others who do not like their appearance to perform a permanent medical procedure to get the opposite look? Is it because many guys who go bald go into an emotional depression? If so, I still don't think all balding guys seeking transplants should be assumed to belong to that group.
As far as I'm concerned, the only real difference here is that those seeking hair transplants risk finding thelseves with an island of hair surrounded by baldness as their baldness progresses, but that is an actual tangible drawback and not simply a critique upon the person's state of mind. To me it's obvious that our personal bias to loving our shaved noggins is blinding many to the bigger picture of being accepting, or even encouraging, to those with the confidence to make permanent changes to their bodies instead of just settling for what genetics handed them. Whether it's hair transplants, laser hair removal, or nose jobs I've always found the whole concept fascinating (well, everything except for those bas****s who laser off their facial hair :) ).
(FYI: In case I came across like an a** or a troll it was not my intention, but I've been told that I seem to lose tact when I express myself in written form.)
I will give you something on the laser hair removal. Though, I still think this is less of a bad decision than a hair transplant. For example, most guys get laser hair removal because they have found that the "hairless" look gives them more confidence than a "hairy" look and by getting their hair lasered off, it makes it easier to keep that look. They aren't trying to achieve a hairy look only to find out later that "oops, the rest of my hair is falling out."
I agree, but aren't our opinions tainted by our own personal bias towards preferring the bald look? But I still think you're right, restoring a hairline can easily do more harm than good, but if something goes wrong in a laser procedure it's probably not going to be very noticeable. At worst you'll just waste a lot of money.
I always wonder about these 20-somethings who get hair transplants because they have a long amount of life left and I doubt that their hairloss has hit bottom.
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I just have one thing to say.......REALLY??????????????????????????????
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This has got to be the worst treatment yet, it won't feel like stubble & they will most likely fade in a few years time. Some people