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Head Shaving, Grooming & Care => Head Shaving => Topic started by: DJ_Bald on May 30, 2009, 09:23:17 AM
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OK guys heres the deal. I had some shadow on top that I hated...so I decided to use a epilator on it. Ive read so many things here and other places that it hurts like hell, will bring tears to your eyes, how you need a case of jack daniels to get thru it etc etc.
Well listen...it DOES hurt...but not nearly that bad. The expected pain is far worse than the actual pain.
And once you use it all of your shadow will be gone. How long I dont know....time will tell but I would not hesitate to do it again.
A couple guys have told me after a few sessions it will be gone depending on how thick your hair is...
This is only for guys who KNOW they want to be sly...forever. If you are on the fence or whatever
do not do this as it will kill your hair eventually. My scalp was very red when I first did it but after about
an hour it has settled down quite a bit.
My thought on this whole procedure was the same as when I first went sly...why didnt I do it sooner ?
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sounds good ! good luck with O0
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Post a pic of before and after!
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It still sounds like an S&M scene to me, but if you're willing to bear the pain then go for it! :o
Red
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Hmmm, I'm not sure I could ever eroticize having hairs plucked from my head (or anywhere else). But to each... >:D
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Sorry bro, I don't want to bring up anything negative but for the sake of knowledge I will do so.
Read this post. It may help others thinking of epilators.
It was posted by X The Hierophant.
"As much as I used to love epilators, I would never recommend one. Now I have some perspective and experience to pass on. I look at hair removal two ways: If you want hair removed, do it permanently, don't mess around. Get laser or electrolysis even if it comes out of your food budget. Or, if you're not going to permanently remove the hair, take good care of your follicals, because mistreatment of your follicals and skin will lead to your skin looking like hell.
Epilators offer a quick fix that at first is impressive, but as someone once posted here, they pretty much just become expensive razors as the hair cycles start kicking in. Epilators are way too hard on the follicals, they rip and tear the hair out and disfigure the follical and bulge over time. And, if the bulge gets really disrupted in it's angle and constituency, then that hair root will always be a problem, and will always be ingrowing. Ingrowns are minimal at first, then they increase over time as the epilator is used longer. Pretty soon the skin looks like a battlefield, not good. Also, and what bothers me most, if you enjoy the sun, then look out; a plucked hair leads to hyperpigmentation spots, and if you do it over and over, that is, mix plucking with sun exposer, the spots get more pronounced, and look like freckles. I still have these spots and it takes awhile for them to fade. They are most pronounced where my skin was exposed to the sun, on my lower outer calf areas. My skin used to be a rich, smooth, and even color in this area, now I'm waiting for these freckle-like things to hurry up and disappear, and they are, slowly.
Then as you continue to epilate, after ripping at the follical for months, the action starts to physically disrupt the follicals. Follicals that only sprouted one hair will sprout two hairs, maybe three. I know this because this happened to me. This is hard learned experience that taught me this. Today, I use a sensible plan; I shave and combine that with periodic laser treatments. The bumps go away, the ingrowns go away, it takes less time, the skin is exfoliated in the process, I'm making actual reduction gains. And really shaving in the shower is very convenient compared to epilating, a lot cleaner and quieter.
These people that come here telling of their bad epilating experiences, they shouldn't be put off. What they are going through is very real. If epilating works well for one person, then great. But for others, it's not a good option. To those that stopped epilating early on, good for you. Your skin will be better for it. "
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Then again this quote is from Zetaeffe from the same post. Like all things there are 2 sides to any story.http://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/index.php?topic=2990.30
First of all "Best compliments to Propagandi" for his new awesome "no shadow" look!
Then I wish to share my experience on the topic: today is exactly 1 year of scalp
tweezing for me!
Like I've said in other threads, I've been shaving for more than 11 years: after some
years I started wishing to make it permanent, and most of all wishing to get rid
or that gray shadow I always had on my scalp, I wanted to really be bald,
not just shaven, totally and completely bald.
It was me who suggested Tom (the owner of scalptweezing.com) that he could
try using the epilator to tweeze out his hair: I wanted to do it but never had
the courage to do it for real... instead Tom is much more daring than me so
he actually went for it and was very happy with the result... his bald dome really
looked great when he had it done.
Hearing his experience my wish to go the same way grew even more, but
at the same time I was worried about it: I still would have a full head of hair
so I knew that once I started tweezing I would have had to go all the way,
no matter if it hurted or not, otherwise would have ended up with a patchy scalp.
I could not even start and stop leaving a mpb fringe (the fringe is the most
painful to tweeze out) because I had no hair loss so if a suddenly showed up
with a mpb shadow people would have guessed it was not natural.
Moreover I knew it would take long time, 1-2 whole nights, to tweeze a whole
skull as it is so painful that you have to take many breaks: so I had to plan things
when I had 2-3 days off work (long weekend) to have the time to tweeze
and also to let the scalp recover from the irritation (didn't want to show up at
work with a red scalp!!).
After many years I finally went for it last year: well, it was REALLY painful, but
I managed to do it! The scalp was red for 1-2 days but then it was ok.
I was really HAPPY with my new look!! it's really another wolrd from just shaven,
the shadow was gone and I looked like I was totally bald, no hair left... actually
I WAS totally bald! It did worth the pain!
After the first painful tweeizng the maintenance tweezing were not so bad,
but still painful... they got les painful with time... after a year I've set to
a twice a week tweezing, but I guess that I could wait more days now
between tweezings.
What's the situation after 1 year?? well, I still have hair growing back!!
mostly on the back/sides, but still it grows back. The look anyway is
almost totally bald, as it's quite sparse and I never let it grow more than
3-4 days.
If you are thinking to go for it keep in mind that it's a long time task:
guess I'll have to keep tweeizng for some more years before it stops
growing at all, but at this point I guess I have no choice as I could not
grow back a full head of hair... or maybe yes, but have no wish to
let it happen
So: it can be done, it's painful but does worth the effort, but only
if you are ready to get rid or hair forever! after few months you won't
be able to go back to whatever hair you had
Hope this can help.
Francesco
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good point Hookem, but then the key there is one year. It may take even 5 or 6 years or maybe more
to see the negative outcomes from epilators. Cheers.
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good points by all. I hear what you are saying on all of this. It is rough on the skin but certainly not unbearable. You do make some good points though..
Lasering is always an option. I'll need to see just how long the shadow stays away and reevaluate then.
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Did you do your whole head or just the parts?
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One word: OUCH
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i have 2 questions.
1) did you tweeze your whole head?
2) how long do you have to let your hair grow before you can tweeze it again? it seems pointles if you have to let your hair grow. after all, thats the whole point of shaving. to not have any hair.
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nah just some spots on top. I let the hair grow out 3-4 days.
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OK guys heres the deal. I had some shadow on top that I hated...so I decided to use a epilator on it.
And once you use it all of your shadow will be gone.
This is only for guys who KNOW they want to be sly...forever.
My thought on this whole procedure was the same as when I first went sly...why didnt I do it sooner ?
Great info! Thanks for the testimony. Sounds like a fast way to get shadow-free, even if it's only temporary.
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where can i get an epilator? i might buy one and give this a try. im used to pain. i live with ulcerative colitis lol. i think i can handle it.
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have to admit that I am intrigued. I have a bit of shadow in middle top forward and would like it to be gone, along with the mpb shadow I have from my monks ring. do you have heavy growth in the ring area?
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. do you have heavy growth in the ring area?
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Come on bro, this is a family forum! :*))
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One word: OUCH
I agree! Simple and to the point!
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One word: OUCH
I agree! Simple and to the point!
Same here. I've no interest whatsoever in this. :/O
I'll keep on enjoying my shave!
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You can get a panasonic epilator on amazon for like 50 bucks...I dont know about doing your whole head but I would say the top didnt hurt too much.
Its been like 5 days and I dont see much of it coming back at all and Ive shaved the area everyday.
It says to hold the machine at a 90 degree angle...I didnt do that...I tilted it a bit and it felt better to me.
But I stress this once again...if you think you may want to grow hair in the future...DONT DO IT. If you want no shadow it does work...how long remains to be seen.
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You can get a panasonic epilator on amazon for like 50 bucks...I dont know about doing your whole head but I would say the top didnt hurt too much.
My understanding is that it hurts a lot more to use the epilator on the sides of your head.
But I stress this once again...if you think you may want to grow hair in the future...DONT DO IT. If you want no shadow it does work...how long remains to be seen.
If you're tweezing an area that is balding already anyway, the hairs should come out fairly easily and without a whole lot of discomfort. I used to have some strays at the hairline (the dreaded "island" effect) that I plucked out a few times with a tweezers. I think I only did it about two or three times eventually it stopped growing back. Remember we're talking about hair that will eventually disappear on its own anyway; plucking it out is only speeding up the process.
My guess is that you may have to use the epilator a few more times but the top of your head will eventually become permanently hairless -- probably quicker than you think.
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I am currently thinning out along the front and top, but have the island effect on the very front of my head. The hair behind it is getting sparse.. I think I will allow nature to deal with it in time.
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Hey DJ you still using this thing?
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I've always wondered what happens as the hairs begin to grow back. I'm sure they regenerate as fine hairs that gradually thicken up as the root heals, so would that mean you'd have to tolerate a peach fuzz head between sessions? I would NOT want that. The epilator wouldn't snag onto anything if you didn't allow it to go out to fuzz, and if you shaved off the fuzz then you'd eventually return to standard stubble. Fuzz is fine for a woman's legs but on my head? that would look really bizarre.
Do you have any pics? Did you use one before taking your profile pic because your skin looks great in that photo (but then it is dark).
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I tried the epilator thing and did whole head about 15-20 times , and yes it hurt like hell, But it got to the stage where my skin hurt for days after wards and got headaches and i had to let hair grow for 2-3 days to do again, but found i still had to shave most of head any way as i could feel the stubble in places, And i found i got alot of tears in skin as the jaws picked up loose skin and pinched it
But my hair never stopped growing and came back , i found the result only lasted 2-3 days and then shadow back as strong as ever.
But if you can stand the pain go for it. But i think you will find the pain is greater than the long term results.
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But i think you will find the pain is greater than the long term results.
Enough to convince me. My hair is light enough anyway that if I can ever get the virgin scalp to tone up, it should not be nearly that noticeable. The shine detracts from the shadow a bit. :)
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I did this once....whole head tweeze. It just hurts too much to keep up.....especially on the lower sides and lower back. Not again, thank you.