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Head Shaving, Grooming & Care => Head Shaving => Topic started by: skipintexas on August 11, 2008, 09:27:21 AM
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Hi everybody!
I'm Skip, a 49 year old who just "did the deed" a week ago Saturday. (I have a fairly full head of hair, but I have wanted to try shaving for several years.) Actually my son buzzed my head down to a stubble Friday, and I gave my scalp 24 hours to get used to being exposed before I shaved it. I have used a Norelco on my face for 20 years, and I am unsure how best to do my head.
Anyway....I had bought a full setup from HeadBlade on a friend's recommendation, but I used a Norelco electric the first two times. It did great around the sides and back of my noggin, but the top wouldn't get closer then about a 1 day stubble on my face. So after 3 tries with the Norelco, I tried the HB. I got a fog-free mirror and decided to shave in the shower. I used the HeadShed, then applied HeadSlick and let it sit for about a minute. After shaving I apply HeadLube. I am shaving from the front all the way down the head to my neck, trying to use long smooth strokes. Then I turn the HB and reverse the path. When I use the HeadBlade it gets me closer then the Norelco, but I have two problems. One I keep missing "strips", areas of stubble between the mostly smooth skin, on top and across the back and especially around the ears. Second, I keep cutting the begeeze out of the back of my head!! I have no problem with the front or sides but I keep coming out of the shower bleeding. I don't like that!
So, I wanted to ask for some help before I give up and just let it grow back...
1) Is there anyway to get a really close shave out of the Norelco? It's always shaved my face every bit as close as a blade, and I honestly had very high hopes for my head....but I can't get there. (more time to let my skin/hair get used to it, more pressure, etc?)
2) If using a blade, how do you make sure to get all the hair/stubble and avoid leaving anything behind?
3) Is the HeadBlade the weapon of choice for a lot of you, or is there something that is easier to use?
4) Last, and most important, how the HECK do you shave without cutting your neck and back of your head? It may sound funny, but I really don't like bleeding...and I have to suspect that the little nicks now adorning the back of my skull don't look so hot either!!!!!!
Can anyone offer any help, or am I just uncoordinated and pretty much hopeless??
Skip in Texas
(Dallas, actually)
;oP
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Skip,
The first week or so is the most difficult. If you want to use an electric you'll have to go out and buy yourself a Wet/Dry razor. I use a Panasonic Linear ~$100. It will give you a shave that is as close as / almost as close as a blade, depending on your hair. I use a good shaving oil and Bald Guyz Shave Gel. Shave in the shower and rinse the blades / foil often. Keep at it. You'll find a shave routine that works well for you.
Check out the video at: http://www.allaboutshaving.com/
Red
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Hi Skip and welcome to the forum.
My answers to your questions are this.
1) I have no idea as I have never used an electric on my head.
2) As you continue to shave your head you will develope a routine (please check out the Shave Routine thread) and be able to shave your head by feel and easily catch any missed spots.
3) IMO the HeadBlade is the only weapon. I started out using a Schick Extreme 3 and switched to a HB and have never looked back. But you will have to find the weapon YOU are most comfortable with.
4) While using a HB the MOST IMPORTANT thing is DO NOT PUT ANY PRESSURE ON THE BLADE!!! That is why you are mangling your neck and back of your head. Take your time. Do not rush the shave. The HB has a bit of a learning curve but once you have mastered it (5-7 shaves) it will be your best friend.
The skin on your head will toughen up with time and exposure to sun (use sunscreen).
I hope this helps and I'm sure you will get even more advise from my other Brothers here at SBG. Again welcome. O0
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Skip....lol....No your not helpless....it takes time and a little experience that's all.....I think everyone has the same problems when they first start shaving.....if you read the forums on head shaving you will find everyone has their own personal way of shaving the noggin, be it the Headblade, safety razors , electric or a combination....after awhile you will find that you can feel your way through a shave by using your fingers for feel as you go along and pretty soon you won't have all that left over stubble that your now missing.....I am not sure about the norelco razor....if it's a rotary razor I would suspect the shave would not be as close as one with a screen....like the Braun 8000 series or Panasonic wet/dry......I am sure you will get a lot more advice from the brothers on here.....good luck !!
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Welcome to the Forum Skip...... and FR8 gives great advice......with the HeadBlade - slow at first and no pressure. You'll have it down in about a week.....
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I also think you will be better off if you did short strokes and you washed the blade off more often.
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Hey Skip, this video might help you out as well.
http://www.youtube.com/v/M54pCKmVa5M&hl=en&fs=1
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I second the Panasonic Linear I got the ES8078S for around $90. Its an electric shaver thats a breeze to use and leaves my head smooth as a babies bottom.
Also if you are interested Amazon.com has a deal where they give you $30 rebate if you spend $99 on a Panasonic product so you can get one of the higher end models for the price of a lower end one.
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1) Is there anyway to get a really close shave out of the Norelco? It's always shaved my face every bit as close as a blade, and I honestly had very high hopes for my head....but I can't get there. (more time to let my skin/hair get used to it, more pressure, etc?)
2) If using a blade, how do you make sure to get all the hair/stubble and avoid leaving anything behind?
3) Is the HeadBlade the weapon of choice for a lot of you, or is there something that is easier to use?
4) Last, and most important, how the HECK do you shave without cutting your neck and back of your head? It may sound funny, but I really don't like bleeding...and I have to suspect that the little nicks now adorning the back of my skull don't look so hot either!!!!!!
Welcome to SBG!
1) You can't get as close a shave with the Norelco than with a blade such as the HeadBlade
2) You should be able to do this by feel. Make sure you use a low foaming shaving cream or gel such as HeadSlick or Bald Guyz
3) I use the HeadBlade and wouldn't use anything else.
4) Make sure you don't apply too much pressure to the blades. They will do the work for you. Also, be patient in the beginning. It will get easier with practice.
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Not much to add to the excellent advice you've already been given Skip except to say welcome and keep asking away with any other problems.
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Welcome SKip
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Read all the thought and head shaving posts guys have put up here...When I first started shaving the dome, I was 23 years old, (a long time ago) and the only information that I had to go on was myself.....it was 1985 and I just had the on base barber giv me the closest buzz he could, grab a pack of disposable single bladed razors and go to town. Man it was a nightmare, but I kept at it.....refined the process as I went along, until I came to this forum and found all these guys out there that are just as committed,(or probably should be committed), to being sly as I am.....After being on my own and getting into a rut I have been waken to more ideas and products to help me advance the closeness and smoothness of my shaves that my head is actually spinning......I am now in the process of trying several different ideas that I have read here, and looking into different products that might help me, but after all this that i have learned is. You need to find your own shaving routine, one that works for YOU, but these guys will help you along the path, and I do believe they all speak from the heart, and will tell you honestly how they feel or think.
Good luck and KEEP IT SMOOTH
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Thanks for all the advice, I really appreciate it! I think I've already accepted that the Norelco isn't going to get the job done. Sadly, I've returned to it for a few days. I realized last night that continuing to use the HeadBlade is just re-opening the nicks on the back of my head. So I'll put up with the electric Norelco for a few days until they heal. Then I will get back to the blade, and I'll make a real point to try to put absolutely no pressure on the blades this time! I was playing with the HeadBlade last night and I think if I keep my forefinger almost completely off the thing that should make it a lot easier to limit myself to only applying the pressure to the middle and over the wheels. If I understand what I'm reading here that seems important, not having pressure on the blade.
Can I ask another question? The HeadBlade site (and the HeadBalde 101 video) recommends using "half strokes", running either down from the crown of the head, or up TO the crown. But everything I am reading here (and the YouTube video) seems to advocate "full length strokes", basically from the forehead to the back of the neck. Which method do you guys find most effective?
Thanks again, for the help and ESPECIALLY the welcome!!!
Skip
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Well Skip glad you didn't give up on the HB. I shave against the grain and since my hair grows out from the crown I use the long strokes only when going from the front of the head to the back of the neck.
I always start shaving the back of my neck first sliding the HB all the way to the top of the crown of my head. Once I have shaved the back all the way around, I then start from the front and slide the HB all the way to the back of my neck on each stroke. It works best for me this way.
Again, as has been suggested already, YOU have to find what works best for you. O0 Let those nicks heal completely before you go back to the HB. Stay with it, it will be worth it. O0
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Welcome Skip!
I use my HeadBlade in the shower, no mirror. I aim the shower head down out of the way, apply HeadSlick with my left hand, close my eyes and relax as I shave with my right. I continually feel for rough spots and re-apply the HeadSlick as I move around.
I shave from front to back (crown) on top and then from back to front on the back.
Dunno if that helps any, Sarge
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hey skip: welcome 2 the sly fraternity. glad that ya joined us. we hope that U become an active member of the best site on the internet.
WARHAWK O0
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Thanks for all the advice, guys! Can I ask for just a bit more?
I'm getting better at keeping the wheels on my HB in contact with my skin, and working hard to avoid pressure over the blade. But when I'm done I keep finding "stubble patches" on my head...areas where I can still feel stubble. I find them most on the top of my head, an inch or so on either side of the crown, running front to back. When I go over the area with the HB it doesn't get it all...and I'm afraid to keep going over the same area too many times. I don't want to start getting sores or bumps. Are there any tricks to getting a smooth, even cut on every pass? Is avoiding pressure on the blade allowing it to pass over the hairs, rather then cutting them off? Do I need to go "down" from the crown, toward the ears, rather then just front to back horizontally?
sign me...."confused, and just slightly frustrated"... :/O
;)))))))
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The crown is a "problem" are for a lot of guys (myself included) because it grows in crazy directions. It is usually circular and in these cases you have to get it in at least four directions. I recommend trying to go from the ear up to the crown on each side and toy around with the lateral directions.
Your head is usually like this
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Hopefully that makes some sense to you....the front and back GENERALLY go in one direction, but the crown goes in all directions, so you have to hit it from all directions. Pressing a razor down won't cut hair more, it will cut your skin more.
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Digory, that's really a brilliant way to illustrate the crown. I have the same problem myself and have to shave at lots of odd angles to get it smooth.
Red
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I think of it as a clock, with the growth whirl at the center (imagining the clock as seen by an outside observer looking at my head, not from the inside of my head looking out).
To get rid of those final bits of stubble, I have to shave a stroke from 7:30 to center, then another from 4 o'clock to center.
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hi skip, you have got some good advice there from the brothers. what a lot of the guys do,myself included, is to run over the stubbly bits left from the headblade shave with a fusion or mach 3, that will leave you super smooth. cheers bro O0
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Howdy Skip, welcome to la famille :)
(someone please correct me if I'm wrong, maybe that should be a le instead)