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Various Non-Bald Discussions => Autos,Toys and Hobbies => Topic started by: frostillicus123 on October 30, 2007, 11:50:28 PM
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Hey Fellas,
Just want to apologize for my absence, life’s been a little on the busy side. So this is my first real post in a while. So now on with the meat and potatoes of my post…..
I am going to switch Operating Systems, going to switch from Windows XP to Ubuntu 7.10 Gusty Gibbon… Now this is my first venture into the Linux world, actually would be my first non Windows OS.
So my question is, any advice?
What should I research now?
Any commands I need to know?
What are you Ubuntu opinions?
Help a Windows XP geek out.
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I would look into your basic commands as they are similar, but different to working with DOS commands. For example, to do an IPCONFIG in Windows is an IFCONFIG in Linux. I know there's a GUI to use that will allow you to do most of the functions without needing to know commands, but they will come in handy.
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Hi frosti,
Yeh, I'm seriously tempted to switch too. I have a good friend who uses Gutsy Gibbon, has just upgraded from Feisty Fawn & GG looks really good. If you've got a 3D graphics card the compiz- fusion effects (which come as part of gutsy gibbon) are really impressive from what I've seen. Anyway, my friend was a complete novice himself until recently but has managed to get everything up & running okay by researching here : http://www.ubuntu.com/
He also recommends the forums here : http://ubuntuforums.org/
Hope that helps some.
Oh yes, also mentioned that if you use wi-fi you might have a problem but otherwise should be okay.
Hope that helps some. Good luck & let us know how you get on. O0
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Why are you switching.? Just being curious or is their a specific reason.
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Microsoft no longer has support in North America
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I'm another one think about switching over to a different OS. I alway have problems with WinXP and I'm getting tired of fixing them. About 2 months ago I had a problem with Registry Editor after installing one of Microsoft updates. Many of the Registry files got deleted with the update, so i goto support and find out that you now have to pay to get help from support, which pissed me off :Xo! since it use to be free. Now I'm on the search as well for a new OS as well...
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this is my last post in windows xp... i'm going to install Ubuntu today, got my cds in the mail yesterday and now it's time for a switch.....
i'm oging to dual boot for now so if i absolutley hate it i can switch back.
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my first Ubuntu post and website, gotta love SBG.
so far so good lets see what i think tomorrow.
I do like the spell checker in Firefox..... now I'll actually look semi intelligent with no spelling mistakes.
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Bro, I tri-boot between XP, Vista and Ubuntu and I can say that Beryl pwns Vista's Aero anytime.
"Wine" will quickly become your best friend.
http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
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i have 2 issues.....
Videos will not play.... even youtube, i've installed the active x controller for the site and all i get is nothign.... than the browser dies no me and have i have to force a close
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dual display doesn't work anyhelp?"
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i have 2 issues.....
Videos will not play.... even youtube, i've installed the active x controller for the site and all i get is nothign.... than the browser dies no me and have i have to force a close
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dual display doesn't work anyhelp?"
I've never had that problem, I'm thinking it could be a codec problem?
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you nkow the nelson mandata video that comes with ubuntu well that will not play either...... really not liking this seeing as how videos are pretty much what i use my computer for the most.
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you nkow the nelson mandata video that comes with ubuntu well that will not play either...... really not liking this seeing as how videos are pretty much what i use my computer for the most.
Video card drivers? You could also try other flavors of linux, like red hat fedora. Just boot with the live cd first to test drive it. Sabayon is good too
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you nkow the nelson mandata video that comes with ubuntu well that will not play either...... really not liking this seeing as how videos are pretty much what i use my computer for the most.
Did you install the packages for video play? Totem should install the codecs for you automatically.
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Have you tried any other distros?
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Sounds like a lot of trouble.
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I gave up on it, i think ATI doesn't make drivers for my card and ubuntu so that was the major malfunction.
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I gave up on it, i think ATI doesn't make drivers for my card and ubuntu so that was the major malfunction.
Whats your card? If you dual boot it you can get it to search your windows installation for the drivers. Both my gaming and work system have ATI cards.
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I thought about going with Ubuntu because of the overall crapfest that Vista Home Basic turned out to be. I burned a CD and ran it on my machine as a test drive, and it seemed to be OK; however, in terms of accessing files that are already on the hard drive, it seemed like that was going to be a pretty major undertaking.
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Wow... seeing this topic really blew me away. Just yesterday, I requested a copy of Ubuntu after researching "Dual booting Windows XP and Ubuntu." I am doing this in preparation for the day when Microsoft discontinues support for XP.
From the research I've done online, and the people I've talked to, I will go kicking and screaming into upgrading to Vista (even though I have a Vista ready PC, with an Athlon 64 processor.)
So I have my copy of Ubuntu coming, and will be familiarizing myself with it and the programs associated with it in the meantime, and only doing the things I absolutely must on Vista *spits* :x!
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Wow... seeing this topic really blew me away. Just yesterday, I requested a copy of Ubuntu after researching "Dual booting Windows XP and Ubuntu." I am doing this in preparation for the day when Microsoft discontinues support for XP.
From the research I've done online, and the people I've talked to, I will go kicking and screaming into upgrading to Vista (even though I have a Vista ready PC, with am Athlon 64 processor.)
So I have my copy of Ubuntu coming, and will be familiarizing myself with it and the programs associated with it in the meantime, and only doing the things I absolutely must on Vista *spits* :x!
You can download the distros and burn the iso's for free. Jaunty Jackalope is coming out mid next year as well. Read up on Wine, you can use it to run alot of windows based programs.
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You can download the distros and burn the iso's for free. Jaunty Jackalope is coming out mid next year as well. Read up on Wine, you can use it to run alot of windows based programs.
Yeah...but my dang CD burner's on the fritz right now :Xo! So... I'll just have to wait for my copy of Ubuntu to come by mail :-[
Will be getting new CD burner, graphics card, and adding more cooling fans, pretty soon - But patience never was my strong suit :D
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What makes you think MS is going to stop supporting XP.? I use Vista Premium and IE8 and everything is running smooth as silk.
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What makes you think MS is going to stop supporting XP.?
They've said so.
I use Vista Premium and IE8 and everything is running smooth as silk.
Consider yourself fortunate. From my exposure to many who have had endless problems. you may be in the minority.
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No, I don't think they said that but I'll double check. I do know that they are going to stop all the support for systems that pre-date XP. It can't go on forever.
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No, I don't think they said that but I'll double check. I do know that they are going to stop all the support for systems that pre-date XP. It can't go on forever.
At this point, I think Microsoft has temporarily caved to the pressure they were getting from users NOT to discontinue support for XP, but as you said, nothing lasts forever. In the not too distant future, Microsoft will be looking to get everyone using Microsoft programs on a 64 bit operating system, and while there IS a 64 bit version of XP available, I believe it was only a stop gap measure by Microsoft to allow those who had 64 bit processors to take advantage of some of the perks of a 64 bit OS before they released Vista. Not to mention, those who write the myriad other programs we use in conjunction with Windows will cease writing them in a 32 bit format, and cease supporting their programs that are in a 32 bit format. So yeah, it is inevitable that my XP will become defunct. Microsoft will continue to release newer and newer versions of Windows, and heck, I mean...Who knows what's to come? a 128 bit format? ::)
Anyhow, I will spare you my myriad issues with Vista and sum it up by saying I resent the level of control that Microsoft is attempting to exert on my personal computing experience with Vista, and that switching to Ubuntu for the majority of my computing needs is my personal "screw you" to Microsoft.
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Why don't you get a Mac? I have a Mac and have been very happy with it. (Unfortunately, I have to use Vista for grad school, as the school's system doesn't work well with Mac). So, I use both. I can tell you that I use my MacBook much more often than my other laptop.
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For people who are Unix fans, a Mac running OS X is great system. For people who could care less about Unix, it's still a great system because the Unix underpinnings aren't shoved into your face unless you want them to be.
I use OS X, Windows and Linux variants daily. OS X is by far my favorite and the system I run at home.
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This thread has been quite an insight for me. I have been out of the direct software world since retiring from CA in 2004. But I will tell you that I am getting ready to dual boot my Sony Viao laptop with WinXP and either Ubuntu, SimplyMepis or PCLinuxOS. I have not decided which one yet and am downloading the .iso's for them as we speak.
Being a former IT Project Manager, I am completely done with MS. The flaws an lack of adequate support boggles the mind. So thanks to this thread and the opinions of some others, I have decided to, if nothing else, create a dual boot system and test drive the latest, user friendly distro of Linux. If I can get everything converted, one way or another. MS is HISTORY in my life.
Thank you.
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Why don't you get a Mac? I have a Mac and have been very happy with it. (Unfortunately, I have to use Vista for grad school, as the school's system doesn't work well with Mac). So, I use both. I can tell you that I use my MacBook much more often than my other laptop.
For people who are Unix fans, a Mac running OS X is great system. For people who could care less about Unix, it's still a great system because the Unix underpinnings aren't shoved into your face unless you want them to be.
I use OS X, Windows and Linux variants daily. OS X is by far my favorite and the system I run at home.
Right now, it's mainly a financial decision. I'm going to put a little more money into upgrading my system to (hopefully) keep it viable for a few more years. When this system is no longer viable, I will begin looking hard at the Macs. The one drawback I see right now (Yes, I've been peeking at Macs already O:O) is that the Macs cost considerably more than a comparably equipped PC. But yeah...they're on the menu :P
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For the life of me I can not understand why Microsoft is pilloreid as the bogeyman by some even though the vast majority of the planet uses their products. I just don't get it and really don't want to hear some convoluted technical replies showing me how I and 90% of the rest of the world are wrong.
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Hackles down, Tom. No one said you are wrong. If a tool is working for you, it's the right tool for you.
However, a large percentage of that other 90% is not having the same stellar experience as you are. For them, an alternative would be a better tool.
A computer and an operating systems is just a tool, not a religion. When one doesn't work for you, you find another.
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For the life of me I can not understand why Microsoft is pilloreid as the bogeyman by some even though the vast majority of the planet uses their products. I just don't get it and really don't want to hear some convoluted technical replies showing me how I and 90% of the rest of the world are wrong.
Whoa, Tom... I certainly didn't mean to offend. I am certainly not saying you, or anybody else, are wrong in any way. In fact I don't even consider this a "right or wrong" scenario. It's more a matter of taste. :P
As far as Microsoft is concerned, and without turning this into a "what's wrong with Microsoft" forum - I've followed the progress of Vista since it went by "Codename: Longhorn" and my main concern is with the anti piracy software that is an integral part of the programming of Vista. The information is out there for those who care to research this. In the end, why it prompted me to make the switch is: I don't believe it is Microsoft's right to police my computer as to what programs I choose to run - legal or otherwise. I believe that choice should be mine 8)
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Hackles down, Tom. No one said you are wrong. If a tool is working for you, it's the right tool for you.
However, a large percentage of that other 90% is not having the same stellar experience as you are. For them, an alternative would be a better tool.
A computer and an operating systems is just a tool, not a religion. When one doesn't work for you, you find another.
That makes a lot of sense Bear. The problem that frost my butt are the zealots. Anti-Microsoft just for the hell of it.
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For the life of me I can not understand why Microsoft is pilloreid as the bogeyman by some even though the vast majority of the planet uses their products. I just don't get it and really don't want to hear some convoluted technical replies showing me how I and 90% of the rest of the world are wrong.
Whoa, Tom... I certainly didn't mean to offend. I am certainly not saying you, or anybody else, are wrong in any way. In fact I don't even consider this a "right or wrong" scenario. It's more a matter of taste. :P
As far as Microsoft is concerned, and without turning this into a "what's wrong with Microsoft" forum - I've followed the progress of Vista since it went by "Codename: Longhorn" and my main concern is with the anti piracy software that is an integral part of the programming of Vista. The information is out there for those who care to research this. In the end, why it prompted me to make the switch is: I don't believe it is Microsoft's right to police my computer as to what programs I choose to run - legal or otherwise. I believe that choice should be mine 8)
OK, I also have been dealing with "Longhorn" since it's debut on the R&D think tank boards. Everyone has a right to their opinion but I wish that they would qualify their remarks by saying something like, IMO MS yada yada, not just issue a blanket statement like they are speaking for everyone.
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Errr... I'm an opinionated S.O.B., and seldom hesitate to add my 2 cents on things (except politics and religion - I avoid discussions about those with all except my nearest and dearest) but I generally try to make it clear that my opinion is only mine, and I certainly wouldn't presume to speak for anyone other than myself... Sorry if you misunderstood ;D
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Maybe we should start a club...Opinionated Son of a Bitches International.
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I'll remain a walrus. :D
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Maybe we should start a club...Opinionated Son of a Bitches International.
I'll remain a walrus. :D
Errr...Opinionated Entities International? :P
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The time has come the Walrus said to speak of many things.
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This thread has been quite an insight for me. I have been out of the direct software world since retiring from CA in 2004. But I will tell you that I am getting ready to dual boot my Sony Viao laptop with WinXP and either Ubuntu, SimplyMepis or PCLinuxOS. I have not decided which one yet and am downloading the .iso's for them as we speak.
Being a former IT Project Manager, I am completely done with MS. The flaws an lack of adequate support boggles the mind. So thanks to this thread and the opinions of some others, I have decided to, if nothing else, create a dual boot system and test drive the latest, user friendly distro of Linux. If I can get everything converted, one way or another. MS is HISTORY in my life.
Thank you.
I would recommend Ubuntu, it was much more support than SimplyMepis or PCLinuxOS
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I have the .iso file for the 64 bit edition of Ubuntu downloaded and sitting on a disc, in my CD ROM drive. I'm having some issues with being able to boot from network, due to some hiccups in my system, which I am trying to iron out so I can get it installed. FR8TRAIN has been awesome from the get go with help, advice, and encouragement.
I will post more about my experiences after I'm able to finally get it installed.
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Update:
Well, despite FR8 and myself giving it our darnedest, it seems Windows is having some sort of issue letting me into setup, so I am temporarily stymied. All is OK, though. I just ordered my new video card and cooling fans/controller yesterday. When the parts get here, I am taking the computer back to the place that built it for me to get everything installed and running, and I will have them fix that dratted Windows problem so that I can install Ubuntu when I get the computer back.
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The biggest problem I have with ubuntu hardy, is that it doesn't like yo stay connected to a wireless network. It lets me connect to it, and i can start using the internet, but 10 minutes later, it cuts me off, it is like clockwork. other than that, I love ubuntu.
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The biggest problem I have with ubuntu hardy, is that it doesn't like yo stay connected to a wireless network. It lets me connect to it, and i can start using the internet, but 10 minutes later, it cuts me off, it is like clockwork. other than that, I love ubuntu.
I don't know whether or not I will have that problem, as I am connected via a router to DSL. But, you might want to try posting your problem on the Ubuntu forums - I hear they're large and very active and helpful.
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The biggest problem I have with ubuntu hardy, is that it doesn't like yo stay connected to a wireless network. It lets me connect to it, and i can start using the internet, but 10 minutes later, it cuts me off, it is like clockwork. other than that, I love ubuntu.
I don't know whether or not I will have that problem, as I am connected via a router to DSL. But, you might want to try posting your problem on the Ubuntu forums - I hear they're large and very active and helpful.
I have tried all of the things that were recommended to me, so I have given up using ubuntu on my laptop when I am using wireless. I am just tired of trying to fix the problem.
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The biggest problem I have with ubuntu hardy, is that it doesn't like yo stay connected to a wireless network. It lets me connect to it, and i can start using the internet, but 10 minutes later, it cuts me off, it is like clockwork. other than that, I love ubuntu.
That's interesting. I have never experienced your problem. I stay connected to my wireless connection indefinitely. I'm connected through a Linksys wireless router with Comcast using Ubuntu Hardy.
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Update on my quest to dual boot Ubuntu and Windoze: I'm back to a halt. While my computer was in being upgraded, my copy of Ubuntu arrived via snail mail (Of course, right?!) So after waiting a week while they made my 'puter spiffy and faster, I tried running Ubuntu from the CD-ROM. Really liked it, so decided to go ahead and install it on my second HD. The first time I installed it wrong - but FR8 smacked me around some and explained that I didn't install the dang program right. So I uninstalled my original installation and installed it the right way. BUT -- partway into the installation, the program kicks up an error about the drive either being old or not positioned where it gets cool enough. Now, Windoze isn't recognizing the drive any more. SO -- now I guess Tiger Direct's gonna get some more of my money, so I can install Ubuntu on a reliable drive.
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WOW, sounds like a lot of trouble.
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Yes and no... I write it off to my lack of knowledge about a new OS, coupled with just plain old bad luck/ bad timing with the drive going out when it did - it was about 5 years old or so. on the upside of things, I had a bunch of my music files on that drive - which I moved before I started the install - so at least when the drive failed, I didn't lose anything ;D O0
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OK boys and girls - the plunge is impending! I've been backing up files, and getting ready. Doing the final steps to hopefully make Ubuntu my only OS. SO - either I will be back shortly on my new OS, or I will be back on the live boot from the CD, griping that I just turned my computer into a doorstop :D
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I took the plunge and... *SPLAT* Someone forgot to fill the pool! :Xo! I'm in an interesting predicament - will say thank god for the usefulness of the Ubuntu live CD, or I wouldn't be able to get online at all :-[
UPDATE: The Ubuntu forums friggin rock! about 30 minutes of waiting solved my problem and I am now booting Ubuntu from the Hard Drive - Woohoo!!! ;D O0
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Congrats, I hope it was worth all that.
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Ironhorse, you are paving the way for me. I've been holding back on trying Ubuntu...and may wait until you post up a full review.
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Ironhorse, you are paving the way for me. I've been holding back on trying Ubuntu...and may wait until you post up a full review.
I am far from the first - Vash is already there, and so are quite a few others (Saw some more references to Ubuntu on other forums.) So is my buddy FR8TRAIN. This is my first full day of using it, so beyond saying I love it so far, I can't add much. I will say that it auto detected my graphics card, sound, keyboard, mouse, router & internet connections flawlessly, and that once I got my glitch solved, it has performed like a champ! I still have some things to figure out - but That's all part of the fun ;D O0
Side note: Ubuntu seems to prefer Nvidia graphics cards ...have seen a bunch of people with Radeon cards having trouble.
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Is that the same as Firefox.?
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Well, Firefox is the web browser used in Ubuntu, but beyond that, it is a complete Operating System - somewhat comparable to Windows (insert version here), that can either run alongside Windows, if you wish, or be used in place of Windows - such as I am doing. It comes with a browser, calculator, dictionary, Email client, so on and so forth. Everything you need to get computing. And best of all - it is FREE - $0 - and always will be. O0
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Well, unfortunately, I couldn't find a way to get World of Warcraft running in Ubuntu (that is without paying $15 a month for Cedega, which I couldn't bring myself to do) so I am back to dual booting Windows and Ubuntu.
Having recently reformatted my hard drive and done fresh installs of both programs has given me a different perspective, and has made me even more pro-Ubuntu. Windows required me to install the drivers for my on board sound and my on board high speed connection (for my DSL connection) before it would give me any sound or connect to the internet. Ubuntu picked all those up without any additional installations on my part, and also picks up the printer that I'm wired to through a router - something Windows still can't do, and I'm guessing I'm going to have to get someone out here to get it set up so I can print through Windows.
Bottom line for me? I'll be using Windows as long as I continue to play World of Warcraft. As soon as I'm done with WoW, I'll also be done with Windows entirely. Ubuntu is clearly the superior Operating System - runs faster, is easier on system resources, and is more secure than Windows can ever dream of being. And if you need an additional program to perform a given task using Ubuntu, you don't have to run to your local computer/hardware shop to get it - you download it and you're off and running. And best of all, besides Cedega (which I mentioned earlier) all the additional programs, just like Ubuntu, are completely free. BTW, since this thread started, Gutsy Gibbon is a past version of Ubuntu, the current version is Hardy Heron, and Intrepid Ibis is on the horizon. Ubuntu is available in 32 and 64 bit versions. O0