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Head Shaving, Grooming & Care => Trimming Your Head/Hair => Topic started by: random on March 10, 2010, 04:55:37 PM

Title: Clipper without guard?
Post by: random on March 10, 2010, 04:55:37 PM
Hey guys... I've been buzzing my head for a while now and seem to have reached the shortest setting possible with the guard still attached (3mm/0.12in according to the manual). Now of course I'm pondering taking off the guard thingy and going even shorter (supposedly 0.8mm)... my question is: How hard is it to do this right? Do I have to worry about botching this up and doing an uneven job without the guard? I have some palpable ridges/bumps on my skull and unfortunately I'm also pretty pale right now (stupid winter), so I expect the remaining hair to be quite visible.

Should I stock up on wet shaving supplies just in case (proper shave is planned anyway, but I was hoping to wait for a bit longer until the sun comes back)?

Clipper in question is this one (http://www.amazon.com/s/?_encoding=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&keywords=philips%20headgroom&linkCode=ur2&qid=1371863255&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aphilips%20headgroom&tag=bestmyspacepr-20).

Any experiences/ideas/thoughts/...? Thanks!
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: D.A.L.U.I. on March 10, 2010, 05:17:09 PM
Remembering the slogan, "Go for the Gold!" shave it with a blade--it's the Gold standard for the Dome.
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: TheSlyBear on March 10, 2010, 05:25:58 PM
I clipped without guard for two decades before I went sly... and during the winters, I still do. Just take it slow and easy and you'll have no problem. The major difference without the plastic guard is that the bare metal is exposed and if you rush through things, you could give yourself a good gouge or scratch.
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: PowerOfCheese on March 10, 2010, 05:36:53 PM
There's another post or two about this floating around where I put up a pic and info on what I use. These clippers are curved and with no guard I can press it into my head without worrying about cutting myself. I'd be terrified to do that with your normal pair of clippers, actually, don't do it. Sounds dangerous especially considering there's an inexpensive alternative.

If I locate the earlier post I'll forward the info. Maybe google rechargable curved hair clippers.
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: PowerOfCheese on March 10, 2010, 05:40:33 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Remington-Clipper-Rechargeable-Cordless-Haircut/dp/B0015K9BXQ (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015K9BXQ/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0015K9BXQ&linkCode=as2&tag=bestmyspacepr-20)

I like em. I press them into my head and go back and forth. I have yet to cut myself and it feels pretty damn good. That being said, what's stopping you from breakin out the razor? It would be back to no guard length in 3-5 days anyway and you get to try it out. Shave this Friday. By Monday you'll know what a no guard looks like.  :)
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: TheSlyBear on March 10, 2010, 07:48:16 PM
Those look awesome PoC!

(Not-so-great Amazon reviews though...)
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: Magoo on March 10, 2010, 09:25:24 PM
Like booted bear said,just go slow and keep the bottom of the cutter blade flat against your skin other wise it will clip the skin. At that point you may want to go all the way, thats the way I did it the first time.
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: omegapd on March 10, 2010, 11:15:38 PM
Like bootedbear, I also used just the blades forever. Never even had a guard, actually. My clippers came with different length blades (1, 2, 000).

The worst that has ever happened to me was some hair being tugged because I didn't oil that certain blade for years.

 Good luck!
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: Polarbear on March 11, 2010, 04:23:15 AM
Hi Random,

Just do it :)

I have been buzzing my hair with a clipper for more than four years, without the guard. I have never cut myself or anything.

Try it, see if it works.

Regards.
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: PowerOfCheese on March 11, 2010, 07:19:28 AM
I guess it depends on what kind of clippers you have and the quality (and the operator). 10+ years ago my wife nearly decapitated me trimming up the neck area with a pair no guard shears. oh man what a wound. This past year, a barber buzzed it with no guard and not a scratch, quite smooth actually.

Try it. Worst case you stop halfway, put on a bandaid and a hat then pay $12 to have a barber finish the job. haha!
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: Magoo on March 16, 2010, 11:04:18 AM
I also got wounded by my loving wife in the back of the neck..... last time I EVER asked her to cut my hair. You have to avoid going straight in with the clipper teeth ,just keep it flat against the skin. :x!
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: stemikger on March 16, 2010, 03:07:44 PM
Well, after saying how I didn't prefer the Remington Shortcut, I decided to give it another shot (without the guard).  Wow!!  I take back what I said.  It was so great.  The last year I was using it with the comb attachment (before I decided to go sly again) and last Sunday I used it again and I have to say it is so much better without the attachment. 

I guess I was using the other clipper so long, I didn't really give it chance.

If last Sunday was not a fluke, I was very impressed with the Remington Shortcut without the guard. 
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: Rob-Raz on July 04, 2010, 01:44:34 AM
One word of warning from a former clipper user  ;)   If you ever unscrew the blades for cleaning.....be careful with the realignment when putting them back together. I was abit careless with mine once and after shaving......my head looked like I lost a battle with a cat!!!!! :-[
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: Nonick on July 04, 2010, 10:44:42 AM
This almost sounds more dangerous than shaving with a dull blade!!   :*))

Just remember that being truly sly is just a millimeter or two away!  :o

Follow your heart!  Live on the edge!  Embrace your freedom and go for it!  8)
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: Tagus on September 09, 2010, 06:01:45 PM
I am too interested in buying the Philips QC5170 but i need help from you guys.

I´m looking for a clipper that buzzes the hair very short like a 1mm or even 000 setting because i need to show in my workplace that i´m going bald and that someday i will shave it all off. (i work with the public so i have to convince the supervisors to shave it).

This Philips clipper only goes untill the 1mm lenght so my question is, is it possible to remove the attachement and shave it like that? DOes every clipper out there work without an attachement?
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: chgobuzzbald on September 09, 2010, 10:09:09 PM
I have used the Conair Cleanhead clipper which does have an attachement to clipper shave you and another to basically shave you smooth. You can order it online, I have not seen it in any USA stores. It is fun to use because it feels really good and you can leave some hair initially but you will always be tempted to go all the way once you start :) thats the fun of it !
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: Tagus on September 10, 2010, 04:36:11 AM
Yeah, i need to go slow but i would like an option to shave it with a bigger length like a 1mm. Then if the clipper has the possibility to remove the attachement then that´s the next step until the razor comes in!

I really need to do it this way and not show up in work completely bald. I´m thining all over and people already notice it when they speak to me closely,i guess i´m a NW3 at the moment so it´s better to going shorter and shorter.
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: Smooth_Operator on September 10, 2010, 07:28:15 AM
I worked my way down with different guards, too.  The biggest difference between no guard and a 1 guard (for me) was how long I could go between clippings before it started to look too long.  After about a day or two, it was hard to distinguish how close I had buzzed it.  Switching to shaving was great, and a lot easier, too.  With a clipper you can't feel for spots that you missed and it was hard to do an even job... it also took a long time.  If you feel you can't go completely slick yet, I would suggest shaving on a Friday night (oh, hey - it's Friday!) and it'll be grown in to a buzzcut by work on Monday.  Shaving is a lot easier than clipping....
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: D.A.L.U.I. on September 10, 2010, 07:48:39 AM
I really need to do it this way and not show up in work completely bald.
You have to do what you think is right, but I believe that most of us w/ mpb found that when we did shave the comments about it at work were either no comment at all or complimentary--and of course we also have found that the compliments just keep coming.  It is a big step for you, but for others, not so big.  So, if it's the response of your fellow workers, that's not going to happen at any where near the level you are anticipating. 
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: Tagus on September 10, 2010, 05:15:53 PM
I don´t mind the response from my co-workers...it´s the response from the bosses. We have a dress code that only allows shaved heads with authorization only because it´s not permitted due to the nature of our work which is to contact with the public.

Somehow i need to convince them that i have problems with my hair so shaving shorter and shorter will be a good option although i don´t want to make a very very drastic change from the night to the day.
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: D.A.L.U.I. on September 10, 2010, 07:20:02 PM
I don´t mind the response from my co-workers...it´s the response from the bosses. We have a dress code that only allows shaved heads with authorization only because it´s not permitted due to the nature of our work which is to contact with the public.

Somehow i need to convince them that i have problems with my hair so shaving shorter and shorter will be a good option although i don´t want to make a very very drastic change from the night to the day.
You don't say what line of work you're in, but my work brings me into contact with elected officials and other government workers, corporate types, etc., generally all with substantial budget authority, and my company--a leader in our industry--doesn't care what's outside my head, it's what's inside and how I can work with that to assist our clients that counts.  You have a medical condition, and since they seem to be thick headed, use the term--androgenic alopecia--that's the 10 cent word for a one penny problem--male pattern baldness.  Tell them you don't as a matter of principle accept temporary and potentially dangerous medical treatment and that your solution, shaving, will not increase their medical insurance costs.  By the way, hair is not a "dress code" issue, unless it isn't clean to the extent that it poses a health hazard to the workplace. 
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: Tagus on September 11, 2010, 06:26:51 PM
I know,but they are dumb to understand that.

I work in an airport btw. Maybe they are affraid i might be connected to skinheads and that i will beat any old lady that messes with me lol
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: BaldGuyMD on October 19, 2010, 11:28:33 AM
Tagus,
I also work in an airport (BWI) for a major airline.  I work in front-line customer service, meeting the public every minute I am there and I am one of about a dozen men in my company who shave our heads.  I have never had a passenger tell me they thought I was a skinhead.  It is a very mainstream look today.  I see many male passengers every day with bald heads as well.  Go for it.
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: Arnie on October 19, 2010, 12:40:37 PM
Lot's of good advice here...if you are going that low, scrape it off with a blade and if you don't like it...it grows back...but we all know you will like it...

...and you won't be called a skinhead unless you happen to dress like one...
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: quickz on December 09, 2010, 03:50:45 PM
I did clipper without the guard first time last week, then today again.  I reckon it looks much better then a 2 or even a 1.  I have a receding hairline, if I wanted I could grow out an 'ok' head of hair but this is far far far far better.  I'll probably shave it all off sometime soon but in no rush I'm 24 and at the moment I like the buzzed look.  Give it a shot and it's pretty easy to do by yourself especially with no guard as you can do right from your neckline to your forehead the same length, where as with a 2 I'd also have to tidy up the neck a little bit with a different trimmer.
Title: Re: Clipper without guard?
Post by: Razor X on December 10, 2010, 09:51:41 AM
I did clipper without the guard first time last week, then today again.  I reckon it looks much better then a 2 or even a 1.  I have a receding hairline, if I wanted I could grow out an 'ok' head of hair but this is far far far far better.  I'll probably shave it all off sometime soon but in no rush I'm 24 and at the moment I like the buzzed look.  Give it a shot and it's pretty easy to do by yourself especially with no guard as you can do right from your neckline to your forehead the same length, where as with a 2 I'd also have to tidy up the neck a little bit with a different trimmer.

I work with a guy who is about your age, and he was worn a short buzz (I'm guessing a zero-guard) for as long as I've known him.  I had no idea that he was thinning and receding until he started letting the buzz grow out (presumably for the winter).  He looks like he's at a #2 length now, maybe a little bit longer.  Thinning and recession is moderate but quite noticeable at that length.