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Title: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Bald Hobbit on February 09, 2014, 06:40:11 PM
I want to get a septum ring, and eventually stretch it to a nice thick bullring like I've seen on some members here. However, there are some things I'd like to ask about.

I don't care about the pain of the initial piercing, but how painful and/or difficult is healing? Anything to look out for?

I've also heard its really easy to hide. How noticeable is it when it's flipped up into the nose?

After its healed(at a small, initial gauge), when you take it out does it close back up? I wouldn't want to wear it all the time...

And lastly, how noticeable is the hole with no jewelry in it when stretched to about the width of, say, a bic pen?

And don't worry, I know about the "sweet spot."
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Razor X on February 09, 2014, 07:09:30 PM
If you are unsure then don't do it.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: EarlBald on February 09, 2014, 08:43:50 PM
I think that Razor X has the right answer.  My first thought, when reading your desire, was to ask "Why?"  However, it's your septum.  Ask yourself why you want a ring there, and whether it would be worth pain of getting it and the inconvenience of keeping it.  If you decide not to get one, you can always get one later.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Bald Hobbit on February 09, 2014, 09:26:19 PM
I've got plenty of time to figure it out, but its not contingent on the questions I've asked. If I decide I don't like it, I can just take it out. Scarring wouldn't be a issue, as I don't think I would care what the inside of my nose looks like. If its easily hideable, I wouldn't have to have it out for all to see all the time, and if it doesn't close, then I can have it in and out whenever I feel like it. I doubt it would be permanent though.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Hingatao on February 10, 2014, 12:52:07 PM
If it's not going to be permanent, why spend the money? Also keep in mind that it could work against you at work or socially.  A pierced septum isn't as accepted as pierced ears are for men. Especially if you work in customer service or any kind of professional setting. You could be setting yourself up to be stereotyped in a way you'd rather not see. Be sure you really want to do it before you proceed.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: theebaldguy on February 12, 2014, 04:40:11 PM
I don't have a pierced septum, so I can't offer advice on how easy it is to hide, or if it will close up if the ring is removed. This is only *my* opinion, but I've never seen a septum ring that I thought looked good on the wearer. To me, they are a turn-off. Just my two cents! :)
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: nuts on February 12, 2014, 05:09:36 PM
To me a septum ring is a bit 'in your face' so to speak and not a look that I like.(sorry Frontier Guy)
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Blitzed on February 19, 2014, 08:07:00 PM
I had the hole made for an 8 gauge ring,  but never wore the ring. It hasn't closed up substantially. Interesting the person who did my piercing was my Eye, Ear, Nose and Throat doctor. I mentioned to him I was going to get one and he asked to do it; As he said, he KNEW his office was clean and that he knew what to do; Turns out he routinely does it. When he did the piercing which was painless as he used an anesthetic. he cauterized the wound so...that's why it doesn't close. Some day I'll stick the ring in, wear it around the house, see how many people come to the door who know me and are shocked. Well, they've got over the tats so this is just another thing for them to wonder what the hell I was thinking.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Ta2Guy on March 02, 2014, 07:04:51 AM
I want to get a septum ring, and eventually stretch it to a nice thick bullring like I've seen on some members here. However, there are some things I'd like to ask about.

I don't care about the pain of the initial piercing, but how painful and/or difficult is healing? Anything to look out for?

I've also heard its really easy to hide. How noticeable is it when it's flipped up into the nose?

After its healed(at a small, initial gauge), when you take it out does it close back up? I wouldn't want to wear it all the time...

And lastly, how noticeable is the hole with no jewelry in it when stretched to about the width of, say, a bic pen?

And don't worry, I know about the "sweet spot."

Hey Bald Hobbit!

I generally wouldn't make this statement on this site, but:

You have received six examples of Very Bad Advice out of six responses to your post.

I never saw that before. Your own response is the only one that gets anything right.

I have a little web site where I give my opinions about a lot of things, including your questions.

http://ta2guy.org/holeyguy.htm (http://ta2guy.org/holeyguy.htm)

That page is not up to date with what I am doing now, particularly in regard to how much I wear it now, which is "quite a bit."

Two quick answers: It is not really very possible to hide it. The flipping it up into your nose trick may work for some short people with small piercings, but probably not for a man with sizable jewelry. If your nose is at approximately the same elevation as someone sitting next to you, if you have a very large hole, you companion may see the light at the other end of the tunnel. And that can compel some people to exclaim, "YOU HAVE A HOLE THROUGH YOUR NOSE ! ! ! ! !" And the odds are great that such a "discovery" will be announced at a very inappropriate time.

Read my page and feel free to email me any questions you may have.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Bald Hobbit on March 24, 2014, 08:32:16 AM
Thanks, dude. I have read your blog. Anyways, I plan on getting pierced at 14g or 12g this summer, and going up to either 6 or 4.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Steeltoe on March 28, 2014, 11:51:09 AM
I got mine pierced at 8, and some piercers are willing to start you with 6. It's much easier to start big than to go through a series of stretches if you know you want it big eventually.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: TxTa2Guy on April 15, 2014, 05:54:52 PM
I agree, Steeltoe, I got mine done the first time at 12 gauge. It was crooked so I let it heal up for awhile and my usual piercer redid it at 10 cause I was scared to "go big" right there between my eyes,
I have heard pierces really try to keep from piercing at less than 12, and preferably at 10 or larger, unless you don't want ever to go larger.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Bald Hobbit on May 15, 2014, 11:27:03 AM
Okay, so I'm saving up for it now and I'm setting goals for myself, not going to let myself get it until I've lost this fat I've been beating myself up about for years. So, motivation. Also, I have to move out first.

Another thing: I keep getting worried that it'll be too distracting from the rest of my features, especially my eyes. I find it's distracting for me when it comes to others, but I don't know if it's because I'm fixated on it or not. Do you guys find that it pulls attention towards itself to the point where the rest of the face is sort of lost?

And would it be better to get pierced at a larger gauge so it doesn't close even if out for a while? I was thinking 12g to start, but I'd like to be able for the hole to be permanent even if the jewelry isn't. I want to start out with a 12 based on looks, then move up until I find a size I like.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Frontier Guy on May 16, 2014, 06:07:55 AM
Hobbit, I think the experience is different for everyone. I work in tourism and see septum piercings occasionally. Thinking back, on some guys that was the greatest visual cue when looking at them but most times it's just part of their overall presentation.

If you are a quiet, shy type I think the ring will become more the focal point. On the other hand, if you are confident, outgoing, find it easy to talk to folks then the ring becomes much less a part of your image. I find it is more polarizing - a few people will be much more distant or disapproving of you simply because of the piercing, and others will be drawn to you or interested in knowing more about you because you obviously are not one to follow the herd. A lot also has to do with how YOU respond to people. If you are well-mannered, courteous, upbeat you make it more difficult for someone to dislike you simply because of your piercing. I figure that anyone I deal with is easily going to remember me. Seriously - tall, shaved head and septum ring. And, believe me, they do and it's always worked to my advantage.

In an odd way, I think getting the piercing is very much like shaving your head. Before the first time you shave you think people will stare at you and be very judgmental. After you shave - if you feel good about yourself - you realize most people don't really care and life goes on. You become more confident in who you are. That was my case when I got the piercing - I was almost disappointed when no one cared. LOL. Several years later when I shaved my head I knew the response would be similar and it wouldn't be an issue. In fact, I have just one friend who is uncomfortable being seen with me in public because he worries how it reflects on him. That, in itself, tells me a lot about where people's priorities are - whether it's more important to be seen with the "right kind of people" or the "right kind of clothes" versus appreciating the moment with the person you are with.

Before you get your piercing talk to a few artists to find how whether they have done a significant number of septums. It's not "the" most common piercing and you want someone who has done enough of them to know how to find the sweet spot and to get it straight.

12ga was the largest my guy would do on me. He put in a 3/8" curved barbell which was ideal for "flipping up" because in the "up" position the beads were comfortable and they held the position nicely. Don't rush the stretching - I moved one size about every four months which was easy enough. I normally wear a 4ga now, but change it almost daily to a different style, color or gauge depending on my mood and what I'm doing. If I want to blend into the crowd (yeah, right) I'll go with something as small as an 8ga.

It took a couple of years until the hole would not close quickly if the jewelry was out but that wasn't much of an issue.

Although I'm intrigued with tattoos - I don't have any yet - I like the ease with which piercings can be removed and leave little trace. Depending on the industry piercings are generally not approved as part of the "dress code."

To each his own, but I encourage you to enjoy the total experience. From thinking about it, getting closer to doing it, talking to piercers, having it done (for me, that was a great experience), realizing you've actually done it, and integrating the piercing into your personal (and public) style. For me, it was far more than just another piece of jewelry.


Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Steeltoe on May 16, 2014, 08:24:31 AM
I think the 30-day rule is just as applicable to a new piercing.  Give it a chance. The septum piercing is no-risk, in that it does not leave a visible dimple or little pit where it used to be, unlike nostrils, cheeks, lip, eyebrow or ears.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Ta2Guy on May 27, 2014, 04:36:40 PM
I do not mean this to sound condescending. It isn't. I am honestly surprised, and sad, that in 2014, any guy feels so reluctant and worried about getting an earring. It's no secret that the U.S. differs radically from place to place, in values and beliefs and customs. It's just hard to believe, reading this thread, that it's to this extreme degree.
. . .

Even if it's about something as small as an earring.
OH Steeltoe, how totally I agree with you.  And it certainly isn't just on this board.  The last few years the USA seems to have developed the intemperance of Salem, Mass, in the 17th  century with respect of "social issues" that shouldn't even be issues, from earrings to tattoos to the person whom one loves.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: 02kpjw@gmail.com on August 21, 2014, 01:50:47 PM
Any piercing in the nose on a man looks terrible.  I would highly recommend piercing somewhere else.  Ears on men is good and nipples is a turn on to women. 
Genitals is ok, but forget the nose.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Goatee on August 21, 2014, 02:40:39 PM
I agree. Looks awful but i guess if its what 'you' want then so be it!
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: TheSlyBear on August 21, 2014, 07:57:05 PM
I'll disagree. Not something I'd want for myself, but on some guys a nose ring can be really hot.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Magoo on August 22, 2014, 07:31:40 PM
I'll disagree. Not something I'd want for myself, but on some guys a nose ring can be really hot.

Example : Frontier Guy wears it we'll.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Frontier Guy on August 22, 2014, 09:12:05 PM
Thanks Magoo.

A septum ring is a very personal decision. To me, it says a lot about who I am - just like my shaved head it is part of the total package. I am totally comfortable and confident in myself. And like my shaved head I wish I'd gotten the septum piercing long ago instead of dallying and worrying what people might think.

Remarkably, I have far more friends since I added the ring than before, which I believe is better attributed to my increased self-confidence. I really don't have much time or patience for anyone who would feel squeamish about being seen WITH me. Those are their issues.

The septum ring has been a remarkable icebreaker. I have been blessed to meet many incredible people in all walks of life from around the world where the conversation started simply because they were curious.

Added bonus. It helps distinguish me from all the other tall, bald, goodlookin' guys wandering around this metro area. (intended tongue in cheek) I am, ahem, somewhat unforgettable. LOL. The only time I remove it is for work when I clock in (not approved business appearance) ... and I become quite invisible in the crowd.

Oh yeah, sense of humor is essential. You truly cannot take yourself too seriously when you are different - whether it's a piercing, a tat, a shaved head or any of a myriad of other differentiators.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: AJ Q-Ball on August 23, 2014, 08:57:21 AM

Oh yeah, sense of humor is essential. You truly cannot take yourself too seriously when you are different - whether it's a piercing, a tat, a shaved head or any of a myriad of other differentiators.

I like your attitude Frontier Guy! Very well said.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: slymyke on August 24, 2014, 04:37:02 PM
Remarkably, I have far more friends since I added the ring than before, which I believe is better attributed to my increased self-confidence. 


This is my favorite line.   O0   
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: 02kpjw@gmail.com on September 25, 2014, 12:25:00 PM
I would say that they work against your looks for something hanging out of your nose.
If you want an extreme  piercing, as I consider a septum, go for a PA.  They are great.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Dapperskin on December 28, 2014, 08:14:09 PM
I have had my septum at a low gauge for awhile now and it's a great piercing. It's easy to turn up inside your nose if you don't want it out at certain times.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Razor X on December 28, 2014, 10:49:44 PM
That sounds uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Dapperskin on December 29, 2014, 12:47:07 AM
the size of the ring can affect how comfortable is it too turn up into your nose, but in most cases you can't feel it up there.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: rss114 on December 29, 2014, 12:05:35 PM
I'm considering getting mine done that or a cartilage piercing
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: six on March 23, 2015, 04:03:56 PM
Good job man, go for it!
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Semi-Sly on March 23, 2015, 11:36:16 PM
I'm considering getting mine done that or a cartilage piercing
I had trouble with cartilage piercings.  They take a very long time to heal.  And since I sleep on my side, I kept irritating the cartilage piercing in my left ear.  I took them out when I went to become a monk.  When I came back my piercer recommended keeping them out because he was afraid they would damage my new hearing aids.

so, for now I just have the two lobes pierced with a small gold ring in each of them.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Mr Jules on April 16, 2015, 04:25:15 PM
I want to get a septum ring, and eventually stretch it to a nice thick bullring like I've seen on some members here. However, there are some things I'd like to ask about.

I don't care about the pain of the initial piercing, but how painful and/or difficult is healing? Anything to look out for?

I've also heard its really easy to hide. How noticeable is it when it's flipped up into the nose?

After its healed(at a small, initial gauge), when you take it out does it close back up? I wouldn't want to wear it all the time.

And lastly, how noticeable is the hole with no jewelry in it when stretched to about the width of, say, a bic pen?

And don't worry, I know about the "sweet spot."


Got my septum piercing done back in November 2014, and was asking similar questions as you.

When my septum pierced, I wore a retainer - looked like a pin. No one could see it. After a couple weeks to allow the piercing to heal, I swapped to a horseshoe. This has been stretched up to a 8g / 2.4 mm and with a bigger horseshoe. The horseshoe can be easily flipped up inside the nose, which is what I do in the office. And nobody notices. And it's quite comfortable to wear when flipped up.

From personal experience, a piercing can close up in a matter of hours. I wear my septum piercing horseshoe continuously without any problems. I really like it.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: old_hippie on April 18, 2015, 11:01:50 PM
I like my septum ring,it is an "0" gauge
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.postimg.org%2F3zwp9xemh%2FMe_4_14_14_No_Face_Hair_2.jpg&hash=2e9a1b33cb1ae05af0d4fbb0b60c63d49407f2b6) (http://postimage.org/)
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Mr Jules on July 27, 2015, 03:43:18 PM
Extraordinary !
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Jotun on October 03, 2015, 04:58:08 PM
Okay, I'm the OP(Bald Hobbit) and completely forgot my password to SBG and my password to my old email and never bothered to get a new one. So I know this is an old post, but people have commented on it more recently, so hey.

A year ago I had my septum pierced at a 14g and since then have been stretching, recently up to an 8g. I'm aiming for a 00 so I can get a nice sized septum tusk in, though in terms of rings I plan on wearing them up to 4g, then inside silicone tunnels as I kept stretching. I wanted to say thanks for the encouragement, however late this is. Love the facial tattoos, guys.

This last stretch to an 8g weirded me out a bit. It was really tender the first night, but the next day felt like it had been in at least a month. It was actually looser just a few days after, now a week later, than it had been before the stretch.

The ring just slides around inside it, no friction at all. I'm inclined to wonder if this means it'll be ready to stretch again way before the piercer said it would in 3-4 months. I'm going to bring it up with him when I get my tongue pierced soonish.

I plan in the future earlobes, tongue, and labret if I figure out how much risk I have of gum erosion.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Jotun on October 03, 2015, 05:01:44 PM
Oh yes, and more useless natter--I finally quit my stupid job, so I got to stretch wearing a CBR instead of a CBB, which I never liked the look of. Also, initially I thought the piercing was farther back than I liked, but as I've stretched the edge of the ring has gotten close enough where it's almost touching the front of the nostril, so it's finally starting to look the way I've wanted it to since I got it.

I was actually just as nervous going to a solid ring as I was when I first got it pierced since I was making it impossible to hide--a bit more dramatic than a wire you can toss up your sinuses if you want someone not to see it.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Jotun on October 03, 2015, 06:44:25 PM
Old_Hippie, I want to get a labret and stretch it like yours, just wondering if you've had any problems with gum recession?
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: SlyMike on October 04, 2015, 10:02:00 AM
Oh yes, and more useless natter--I finally quit my stupid job, so I got to stretch wearing a CBR instead of a CBB

What are the 2 CBR and CBB?  I've no idea what the abbreviations mean, but have to admit I'm quite intrigued by septum piercings.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Jotun on October 04, 2015, 01:07:32 PM
A captive bead ring(CBR) is a complete ring with a bead held in the middle, like Old_Hippie has in his photo above. A Circular barbell(CBB) is a circlular horseshoe shaped ring with a ball screwed into both ends. These are ideal for those with jobs that don't allow piercings, as they can be flipped up into the nose with only really short people noticing. I prefer CBRs since I like it looking more solid. Cheaper too, since they're not as complex to make.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: mrzed on October 05, 2015, 05:36:29 AM
The CBR that I'm wearing (in my ear) right now requires tools to remove the ball, so it's in there for the longer term. Same would go for a segment ring.  Up to about 14 gauge you can replace the beads yourself. After that, you need tools.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: BaldWriter on October 05, 2015, 10:50:10 PM
The CBR that I'm wearing (in my ear) right now requires tools to remove the ball, so it's in there for the longer term. Same would go for a segment ring.  Up to about 14 gauge you can replace the beads yourself. After that, you need tools.

mrzed,

What gauge are you at?
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: mrzed on October 06, 2015, 02:48:26 AM
The CBR that I'm wearing (in my ear) right now requires tools to remove the ball, so it's in there for the longer term. Same would go for a segment ring.  Up to about 14 gauge you can replace the beads yourself. After that, you need tools.

mrzed,

What gauge are you at?
Twelve. Probably as large as I'm going to go.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: BaldWriter on October 06, 2015, 08:54:05 AM

Twelve. Probably as large as I'm going to go.

Looks good! It's very distinctive seeing one larger-size ring.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: BaldWriter on October 06, 2015, 04:25:16 PM
BaldWriter, your INBOX is full. I tried to PM you and it bounced.  If you want the message, please delete some messages from your PM page. Mr Zed.

Please try again -- I freed up some space.
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Goatee on October 09, 2015, 10:37:34 AM
I like my septum ring,it is an "0" gauge
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.postimg.org%2F3zwp9xemh%2FMe_4_14_14_No_Face_Hair_2.jpg&hash=2e9a1b33cb1ae05af0d4fbb0b60c63d49407f2b6) (http://postimage.org/)


Blimey!!!! Is that real tattoo etc or what!!!!! Why??????

Ok, each to their own, just asking buddy!
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: old_hippie on April 11, 2016, 06:15:28 PM
I like my septum ring,it is an "0" gauge
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.postimg.org%2F3zwp9xemh%2FMe_4_14_14_No_Face_Hair_2.jpg&hash=2e9a1b33cb1ae05af0d4fbb0b60c63d49407f2b6) (http://postimage.org/)


Blimey!!!! Is that real tattoo etc or what!!!!! Why??????

Ok, each to their own, just asking buddy!

yes my face is tattooed green for real
also my septum ring is not removable as being an "0"
gauge I do not have tools to remove it
Title: Re: Want to get a septum ring, but unsure...
Post by: Bullringtom on September 20, 2018, 06:31:11 PM
Hi, i did read this topic of four years ago with very much interest. Especially the first sentence did strike me:  "I want to get a septum ring, and eventually stretch it to a nice thick bullring like I've seen on some members here". It's the same with me. The idea to wear a nice thick bullring through my nose in the future makes me hot, since I for the first time saw a guy with one two years ago in reality. And indeed it should be not a circular barbell ring, but a captive bead ring, a complete ring with a ball-closure in the centre, so the piece that's called often by the public in a pejorative sense as a bull-ring, but which I in the contrary regard as a positive appellation, because of the association of this eyecatching piece of facial ornament with daring masculinity.

I after long hesitiations did got my septum pierced half a year ago, and had it stretched until 8 gauge now too; my final goal will be 2 gauge. Because i think, if you as a man decide to wear a bull-ring, it indeed should be a thick one. Before I got my nose pierced, I therefore had it carefully examined, if it was apt for that; to my relief the piercer stated that my sweet spot was very wide and my nostrils were too, and that my nose as a whole was far enough protruding to let also a nosering of the more heavy kind swing freely. It seemed even more or less predestined to receive eventually an indeed really big and sturdy bull-ring that will fill up the whole space between my nose and upperlips, like those three tough guys are presenting so self-evident as the dominating aspect of their appearance. I hope I will after several next stretches be able to replace my still tiny present horseshoeshaped ring, that nearly disappears into my nose, by such a proud thick, real bull-ring like theirs and thus to do so in the future  too.

(https://i.postimg.cc/nLV2bh7j/hqdefault_2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/G2KVvfCV/6mm_septum_bullring.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/brF5B2dR/Nosering_6mm3_2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)