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Title: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Tyler on September 05, 2006, 11:35:52 PM
I've been researching laser hair removal for your scalp and there really isn't much out there on the web.  The only thing that I could find is that it will take several treatments that will be very expensive.

Have any of you ever looked into it?  What have you found?  Would you do it?

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: happyharry on September 06, 2006, 12:35:02 AM
I researched it myself a few months ago - not so much because I wanted to do it but more out
of curiosity.

I've read a few reports from people who did it. And according to them, yes, it does often require
several treatments. The end result is either no hair growing back at all, or very fine hair growing back
(like babies' or old people's hair) that isn't as visible as your normal hair and that you can easily shave off
whenever it grows. 

The risks (eg possibility of permanent burn marks on your skull) are minimal, so it's considered a safe, albeit expensive choice.

Personally, I find the idea appealing. But on the other hand, I enjoy shaving my head - it's a ritual to me - even though
there are times where I find it annoying and wished I wouldn't have to go through the routine of shaving.
Plus, if you have a girlfriend (or a new girlfriend), they usually ask you if they could shave you. And I find that
quite appealing and erotic.

On the other hand, if you are permanently bald, I feel that being bald looses some of its appeal. You're no longer
an active, meaning shaving, member of the bald community - you're no longer shaving, no longer involved in buying razors and creams and
giving advice to newcomers etc - you're now a retired bald man.
There's nothing to do, no shaving, no checking out new products and discussing them with your fellow bald people.

Yeah, it feels a little like retirement. ;)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Noner on September 06, 2006, 07:01:10 AM
Body hair is one thing, but aiming a lazer at my scalp is another. If ordinary sun can cause cancer, what about lazering your whole head. There isn't enough research on how it can effect the brain. That is just the easy way out for us bald guys. I say to anyone comtemplating that, "you are crazy!" Just shave your head, it's not worth frying your egg. MMMMM, eggs.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gearhedguy on September 15, 2006, 10:30:30 PM
I'm still not 100% sure about how safe laser hair removal really is. . . who knows what they'll discover that it has caused years from now?? A neighbor of my parents died a few years ago from face cancer. Pool woman. Imagine. They think it was caused from ultraviolet treatments she had received many years ago for treatment of her acne when she was a teen. . . they didn't realized it eventually caused cancer. As my Mom still says till this day, "don't fool with Mother nature." A few years back I did inquire about having laser removal of the hair on my back. They said it would take 4 to 5 treatments at about $500 a pop!. . . $2000 to $2500 total!! No joke! I figured I could buy a lifetime of Nair for that kind of money and still have A LOT of change left over.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Pyronius on September 26, 2006, 03:16:33 AM
I've checked into laser and electrolosys..

Electrolosys seems the way to go between the two, less chance of scaring and its chemical/electrical based as apposed to getting shot with a friggen laser beam..

Although if I were offered either at a reasonable price, I would say "Sure I'll guinea pig it"

I can understand loosing the luster for some people, but for me I like the bald look... and my skin doesn't take well to shaving sometimes. 

If I can find a good place in the Minneapolis area that does it, who knows I may have first hand experience to report after xmas (seems like a good place for the bonus to go..)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Professor Melon on November 14, 2006, 04:43:37 PM
 :) Happy Harry has this exactly right. Shaving makes it an affirmation and the ritual taps into something--I still don't understand--that makes baldness meaningful, not just an accident of genetics. Even though I have come to hate the little bits of stubble in the shaving cream, the act of shaving is, to me, some expression of cleansing. The time I most feel clean and rejuvenated is right after the last go-over for missed spots and washing off of  the remaining shaving cream. For about six hours after that, I feel emancipated; after that, the fuzz begins to grow again. Profesor Melon
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Penguins Fan on November 24, 2006, 10:43:01 AM
Electrolysis would be an option only if you have rather severe MPB and there isn't a lot of hair left to remove.  Each follicle needs to be treated, sometimes multiple times.

Laser can work, but it has side effects.  You cannot allow sunlight to make contact with your scalp for several weeks after each laser treatment.

The best thing to do right now is just shave it and live with the shadow.  I like the totally bald look and would like to ditch the shadow, but there is nothing practical right now.

There is a Yahoo permanent scalp hair removal group. Some of those guys use wax or tweezers to get rid of their hair.  No, thanks.

There is a promising future possibility.  Check out this link.
http://www.sirna.com/wt/page/dermatology

If this stuff works, I will be making an appointment with my dermatologist to get rid of my scalp and facial hair.  My neck irritates easily after shaving, for one thing.  I like the totally hairless look and maybe it will soon be available.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: PigPen on November 25, 2006, 01:53:41 PM
Thanks for the great info Penguins Fan!!! Welcome to our forum as well
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: agrtp8 on January 28, 2009, 12:09:12 AM
I'm a Bald By Choice guy. I didn't have any hair loss but wanted to be without hair. I shaved for a year to be sure it was what I wanted and then found the permanent scalp hair site on Yahoo. After tweezing for eight years, I was ready to take the final step. On a visit to my dermatologist, he suggested he could help take care of irritation on my stomach by lasering the hair out. I thought about it and finally got up the nerve to ask if he could laser my head bald. It took him back a little as he'd never had the request before, but stated it was hair and any hair, pretty much anywhere could be lasered. I had my first appointment on January 10. It took about twenty minutes to do the initial laser treatment. There wasn't any "pain", just a little tingle, more sharp than tingle, but not "pain", each time the laser shot. I have medium blond hair which bleaches out to nearly white in the sun with quite white skin. I had a patch on the back of my head which refused to be eliminated, and on my neck. There were stragglers on the sides and a few on top. It's been two and a half weeks now and the areas which I'd not been able to get completely smooth ARE now totally smooth when I shave. What had been rough from hair growth is no where near as rough and a shave lasts several days.

The full treatment, full scalp and back of my neck, ran $185 total. I'm in Los Angeles, if that helps with determining the appropriate cost. I have my next treatment on February 7 and am told it will likely take four to six treatments to obtain "full results". I was a little pink the first day, as if I'd been out in the sun for a few hours without protection. I've used SPF 50 sunblock each time I've been outside since to keep from having any side effects, which I haven't had. By the next day, I was "normal color" and haven't had any unusual sensations other than an incredibly smooth head! Using the sunblock isn't an issue as I'd usually worn a hat or the sunblock anyway to prevent sun spots and potential cancer on my dome. I've worked this hard to get my head bald, I want to make sure it looks its best as long as possible.

The dermatologist admitted he was more than a little curious and shocked by my request as he'd never had it proposed to him before, but the more he thought about it, the more he was intrigued to do it. It's as much a learning experience for him as it is for me, and I'm completely satisfied with his work so far. He's been a great dermatologist for years so I trust and respect him and his abilities completely. If you're considering lasering your head, and the cost isn't an issue for the results, make sure you know as much as possible about the person lasering you. I wouldn't let anyone less than an MD anywhere near my head with anything as potentially dangerous as a laser.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Ringside on January 30, 2009, 10:31:12 AM
I had the laser treatments many years ago.  5 treatments total for $1000. Whole Head!  I have pictures and the  story posted on another website.  Bottom line, Hurt like hell, bruised afterward, with FAIR results. I still have to shave but it is much quicker and easier (so I still affirm daily)  IF I ever wanted to let the hair grow back, forget about it. It grows in patches and my head would look like a a globe (map) with little islands everywhere. If you want all of the details I will post the web site with the whole ordeal.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on January 30, 2009, 10:35:48 AM
do tell Ringside! Great Pate: it cost me $1200 for 12 treatments. How did u do it for $185?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Ringside on January 30, 2009, 10:42:20 AM
Professional discount. :D O:O
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: benmcd on February 12, 2009, 07:42:48 AM
This really is the ultimate step,
I would imagine that it would be difficult to get someone to laser your scalp simply by walking into their office and saying "fire the laser"! Perhaps that is what Dr.Evil did?
It might be better to see a doctor who has done this procedure in the past and is open to doing it. Online there is virtually no information.
It would not be out the ball park to consider going down this road at some stage.. the idea is appealing. I have always disliked the shadow and as my hair is dark it reappears fairly soon after a shave. I would imagine there would be paper work to sign before any laser was fired !


 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on February 12, 2009, 12:21:02 PM
A laser tech performs it not a doctor. I reiterate: If I were younger and laser was available, I would have had my entire head lasered at the age of say 30.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Some Guy on March 02, 2009, 11:49:49 AM
I stumbled into this group while researching this very question.  So far, I am very happy with the results my first laser experience. 

I'm naturally bald on top have shaved for over 10 years and now am having the remaining horeshoe fringe removed by laser.   The first treatment was 2 weeks ago (with a test patch done a week before that) and my hair is much lighter and thinner.  The shadow is much less pronounced when shaved and hardly noticeable even after a few days growth.  I'll post more later if anyone is interested... gotta get back to work.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: That Bald Guy on March 06, 2009, 10:17:56 AM
Hey everyone, I'm new to the forum, found it through a search.  I've been interested in a permanent solution to removing my dome hair, and have wanted to look into laser for a while, just never have been in a position to do it.  I'd love to know if anyone in the Portland (Oregon) area has found somewhere experienced in doing so.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BALDANDRE on March 06, 2009, 11:37:28 AM
I'm in the Portland area too bro (across the river in Vantucky!)....

Welcome!

I'm usually slick bald like yourself...just taking a break...from 15 years of daily baldness

It would be interesting if there is a place that that did that...

100% slick bald with no shadow....very cool and very SLY! O:O
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: That Bald Guy on March 06, 2009, 12:18:59 PM
I just said Portland area cause it's a little more general.  I live in Washougal, work in Vancouver.. :)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BALDANDRE on March 06, 2009, 12:36:18 PM
I just said Portland area cause it's a little more general.  I live in Washougal, work in Vancouver.. :)

You must of been that cool sly bro that passed by me this morning! ;)

Nice to see you bro...maybe our "Couv" paths will cross! Maybe summer Ester Short concert days or somethin' O0

How long you been our in the "farm" area?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: That Bald Guy on March 06, 2009, 01:17:12 PM
Haha, Farm area?  I've been here since it WAS a farm area, my whole life.  My great uncle owned a dairy farm where Dorothy Fox School (on Prune Hill) is now!  I might have been, I dunno.  I take 14 to I-5 (exit 5) every morning around 6:30(ish) in a blue pickup.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BALDANDRE on March 06, 2009, 01:22:59 PM
Haha, Farm area?  I've been here since it WAS a farm area, my whole life.  My great uncle owned a dairy farm where Dorothy Fox School (on Prune Hill) is now!  I might have been, I dunno.  I take 14 to I-5 (exit 5) every morning around 6:30(ish) in a blue pickup.

Now if you said 14 to 1-5 exit (exit 2)..that would be you! Just kiddin' on the farm thing...just outside of the downtown (where I'm at)...is what is left of the farms...and nice thing is there still are some!

Needless to say we're newbie here...so it is small town to us...which we like! O0
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BuzzKC on March 15, 2009, 11:40:59 AM
I've been looking into this for years.  There are dozens of laser places in my city, and over the years I've talked to all of them.  I've only found one that will do it.  They use IPL.  Not sure what to expect with the gray hairs. Most if not all of the hair I have up top is still dark so I'm thinking of just having the top lasered.  Don't mind the horseshoe shawdow so much, but keeping the top slick once or twice a day is a hassle.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Some Guy on March 15, 2009, 02:48:08 PM
I just had my 2nd trip for zapping on Friday.  I also called some places a few years ago and nobody in my area would do it.  A new place opened and I decided to call them on a whim.  They were very cool and did not think it was too strange a request.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on March 15, 2009, 03:49:01 PM
It does look good.  How many treatments do you expect it to take?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BALDANDRE on March 15, 2009, 04:27:42 PM
I just had my 2nd trip for zapping on Friday.  I also called some places a few years ago and nobody in my area would do it.  A new place opened and I decided to call them on a whim.  They were very cool and did not think it was too strange a request.

Some guy...that is the most perfect bald dome I've ever seen on your avatar...

bald perfection... O0 O0 O0

lasering=GOOD!

 B*)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Some Guy on March 15, 2009, 06:19:38 PM
It does look good.  How many treatments do you expect it to take?

Thanks. The laser tech set an expectation that to get rid of all the hair it could take 7-10 visits but she was unsure because she has never done head hair.  At this point I doubt it would take that many.  Even if it did, I'm not obsessed with being completely hair free- I don't mind shaving.  I like that the hair is finer, grows slower,  less chance for razor burn, the shadow is lighter etc.  I could stop now and be happy.  I'm paying $200 bucks a pop (no commitment the 5th visit is free).  My next visit isn't for 6 weeks. So hopefully I'll continue to see results and I'll decide if I want to continue lasering.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on March 15, 2009, 06:22:25 PM
thats about the going rate; I had 12 treatments to get rid of my old transplanted hair over 2 years. GO FOR IT
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: DENNIS on March 30, 2009, 12:12:15 PM
HI, IM NEW HERE,,  SO I WANTED TO POST I HAVE HAD 7 LASER TREATMENTS ON MY SCALP..  WOW PAINFUL,,  I WOULD SAY ABOUT 95% OF ALL MY HAIR ON MY SCALP IS NOT GROWING AT ALL,  WHAT IS LEFT IS PEACH FUZZZZZ AND VERY LIGHT, BARELY NOTICEABLE,,,  I AM GOING FOR THE 8TH AND LAST TREATMENT NEXT MONTH,,  THE DOC SAYS IT SHOULD ELIMINATE ALL MY HAIR...  IM NOT CONVINCED, BUT WE WILL SEE,,,  I WILL POST PICTURES ON MY WEB SITE AS SOON AS I AM DONE WITH THE TREATMENTS.. OH BY THE WAY, IT WAS $400 DOLLARS A SESSION,  OUCH.. I GUESS WE NEED A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO ADD UP MY BILL...  ANYWAY, I HAD MED TO DARK BROWN HAIR, NO GREY TO MENTION, AND IM 44,,,,  HTTP://WEB.MAC.COM/DENNISJTM
I WENT EVERY MONTH LIKE CLOCKWORK..  I WAS VERY PATCHY DURNING THE PROCESS,, BUT NOW IT BARELY NOTICEABLE AT ALL....   WE'LL SEE... LETS KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED,,,,
OHH,,,  SHAVING NOW ON MY SCALP TAKES ABOUT 30 SECONDS, NO CREAM NEEDED,, I CAN DO IT WITH MY EYES CLOSED, AND SMOOTH AS A BABIES A&% FOR ABOUT 3 WEEKS...
SEE U SOON..
DENNISJTM@COMCAST.NET
FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Stu on March 30, 2009, 12:55:01 PM
Dennis, Now that is dedication.  Are you a totally BBC guy so into the bald look that you're having everything removed permanently, or a balding guy too impatient for Mother Nature to finish the job?  Either way, welcome aboard.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: DENNIS on March 30, 2009, 01:42:35 PM
HO, HI, I AM A BALDING GUY WITH MAYBE ONLY 20% OF MY HAIR GOING TO GODS GREEN EARTH,,  BUT ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, I WENT SLY,  SLY EVER SINCE,,  JUST TIRED OF SHAVING, AND FIGURED I SHOULD DO IT BEFORE I TURNED GREY..  LASER DOES NOT AT ALL GET RID OF GREY HAIR, AT LEAST NOT NOW..  SO, NOW I DONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT BIG CLEAR DOME ON MY TOP.  NOT I GET,,  HEY, WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR HAIR, HOW DO U GET SUCH A CLOSE SHAVE...   I SMILE AND SAY,  AHHHH  IM GOOD.. 
REMEMBER IF U START THE PROCESS, DONT STOP, MAKE THE COMMITMENT...IF U STOP AFTER A COUPLE OF TREATMENTS, U WILL NEVER BE SLY TOTALLY,,, BECOUSE AFTER 8 -9 TREATMENTS, IT HAS THE REVERSE EFFECT, AS ;:::: TO REGROW HAIR,,,  I GUESS I DONT NEED TO TELL U THAT....
ANYWAY,   THANKS FOR THE CUDOS....

DENNIS
DENNISJTM@COMCAST.NET
HTTP://WEB.MAC.COM/DENNISJTM
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Timmay on April 06, 2009, 07:12:00 AM
Nothing like making a whole post in CAPS...lol 

He must be excited!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jonny Monterroza on April 06, 2009, 07:35:31 AM
Hello, I am 23 years old and I am presently dealing with quite a difficult time. I am between worlds and don't know whether to fall victim to the undying hope of many that hair cloning/some miraclulous discovery will occur or rather take advantage of the present ability to dismiss the entirey of my hair through laser hair removal. I am almost becoming obsessed with hair loss and cannot stand the idea of falling victim to it. At this time, I am fortunately married and have a loving woman to sustain my sanity, but I detest the fact that I am this young and have to deal with the uncomfortablity. I must confess that I was quite vain in my teenage years and never expected to have to deal with this burden (not to be taken as an offense to anyone, but I really liked having hair!). Moreover, presently I wear eye shadow under my hair line to make it look thicker, which works amazingly and to this day my wife is the only one that is aware of it; however, I am fully alert of the fact that I will not be able to cover it up forever; so I now plan to go to some laser hair clinics in my region (being Ottawa, Canada) to see if there is anyone who will treat me. My first place to go is the same place that my wife went to for her side burns to be done, which turned out to be quite a success! In addition, I have also been researching permanent tattoos that can replicate hair follicles, but I imagine that such a procedure is more of a limiting agent than a success story for my upcoming years. After all, I am young and truly require to be provident with all of my chronic issue decisions.

P.S: I truly appreciated reading all of your comments and feel much more confortable now knowing that other people have had it done. Also, I added a picture to let you see how well the make up works. I don't recommend that anyone get into the phase of doing it, but it obviously works well for me with the amount of hair I still have left. The second picture of the group family together has my biological brother on the far left, which demonstrates what my scalp will look like in 2 years.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Timmay on April 06, 2009, 07:51:46 AM
Hey Jonny, thanks for posting up and welcome to the site.  Just wanted to say something here and I do not mean to be rude about it, but, are you sure no one notices you put eyeliner under your hair line?  I am in a production where we use theater makeup and eyeliner is used to "fill in" and from what I can see, it is vary noticable.  Of course I do not notice it in your picture, but just with overall experience with this.
You shouldnt feel bad about losing hair.  It happens everyday and some people it goes unnoticed.  You mention that no one has noticed, but do you really think they are going to say anything to you?  How many times do you see a bad hair do on someone and go up and mention it to them?


Like I said, I hope I am not coming off rude to you, but just trying to help you face reality.   I would just almost guess and the other guys in here will back me on this.  Once you shave and get to where you are comfortable with it, it will be the best decission you will have made.  Just give it some time, read up on the post and figure out what is best for YOU!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on April 06, 2009, 09:35:18 AM
welcome and IM not sure about the makeup.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jonny Monterroza on April 06, 2009, 05:38:30 PM
To make everyone aware of why I wear the make up, my reason is mainly in cause of the fact that I have a specific hair style which makes it impossible to see my hair line. My hair is short and I guess that the dark color of it makes it easy to blend with the powder in order to make the recession unnoticeable. As I said before, I am well aware of the fact that this will not be a solution to my problem, but while going to University during the day and having to go to work after wards, my insecurites are much forgotten (thank God!). Either way, I look at my brother and although he is coping extremely well with his hair loss, I in particularly don't plan to head down that path. So, I am researching my choices such as simply shaving it off for a short while or perhaps going to get the laser treatment; after all, its not going to come back if I am this young and already dealing with the first wave.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on April 07, 2009, 12:08:38 AM
Hi Jonny, i know how you feel, i had major issues when i first started losing my hair, mine started when i was 17 and it was pretty aggressive. Ive actually opted for laser hair removal myself, my scalp is just too sensitive to carry on shaving it any more + with the type of hair that i have im quite prone to ingrown hairs. Is the family photo fairly recent ? if it is recent, ive gotta be honest, it doesnt seem like you have that much to worry about for the moment at least. I cant really tell that you are losing your hair at all. If i were you i would just shave it for the time being, if it gets alot worse and you dont really care for the shadow then i would laser it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jonny Monterroza on April 07, 2009, 06:46:20 AM
Yes, the photo is recent and because of the fact that my hair still looks the way it does, I have opted to keep it growing and cover the weak areas with make up. Now, I am not someone who is over dramatizing my situation, because at first when I started talking to my wife about the hair loss, she initially tried to say I was crazy and that it wasn't noticable; however, now she agrees that it is gradually getting thinner (from her inspecting my scalp straight out of the shower) and we both agree that I should do something about it. The reason for that is because I can't go swimming comfortably in the summer (which I miss) and I constantly trouble myself about it (by going and looking in mirrors all of the time to reassure myself, when I should be more concerned about my studies than anything else). In addition, last summer my wife shaved my head and it hurt quite a bit; also, my hair grows so quickly and it is so dark that I can't imagine having the time or strong enough skin to shave it as often as I most likely will. Moreover, my wife has already called the place where she went for her laser treatment and we will go to have a consultation on Saturday. Wish me luck and I will let you guys know if I think it is a good idea once I get all of the information.
P.S: Jez, is there anything that I should ask or deeply consider about the procedure before making such a big decision? Does your scalp look weird without any follicles at all? Do you happen to go tanning often in order to make the look appear natural? Also, does any hair still grow on your scalp or is your procedure entirely finished? Thank you everyone for your helpful replies! Keep on sending them with your interesting information.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on April 08, 2009, 10:40:29 PM
After checking on the web and reading this thread, I just went in for my first session.  For the benefit of others considering the procedure, I'd like to take a few moments to talk about the pain.  Basically, the darker and denser your hair, the greater the pain.  Dark and dense hair (shaved) is what I've got everywhere except the crown of my head.

I can't remember feeling so much pain.  Terrible, searing pain.  I was sweating and trembling from the pain.  I called out from the pain.  Lasering my head took about one hour, during which I was in almost constant pain.

During the process, I imagined that my head would be a bloody mess when it was over.  Nope.  I looked in the mirror and no apparent damage.  The dome never looked better.

The total cost for session #1 was about $150.  The technician even picked off some random ear, eyebrow, and neck hair at no additional charge.  She believes that I'll need eight or more sessions to completely remove my hair.  She recommends having a session every four weeks.

My advice to other Sly Bald Guys looking to do this procedure is to take something to dull the pain.  A few Advils would be a good idea.  Personally, I'm coming back next time with a vicodin.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Alexander215 on April 08, 2009, 11:32:20 PM
After checking on the web and reading this thread, I just went in for my first session.  For the benefit of others considering the procedure, I'd like to take a few moments to talk about the pain.  Bascially, the darker and denser your hair, the greater the pain.  Dark and dense hair (shaved) is what I've got everywhere except the crown of my head.

I can't remember feeling so much pain.  Terrible, searing pain.  I was sweating and trembling from the pain.  I called out from the pain.  Lasering my head took about one hour, during which I was in almost constant pain.

During the process, I imagined that my head would be a bloody mess when it was over.  Nope.  I looked in the mirror and no apparent damage.  The dome never looked better.

The total cost for session #1 was about $150.  The technician even picked off some random ear, eyebrow, and neck hair at no additional charge.  She believes that I'll need eight or more sessions to completely remove my hair.  She recommends having a session every four weeks.

My advice to other Sly Bald Guys looking to do this procedure is to take something to dull the pain.  A few advils would be a good idea.  Personally, I'm coming back next time with a vicodin.

You can get topical cremes at the pharmacy that will dull the pain also. You don't need a prescription, just ask the anyone wearing a white lab coat  O0
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on April 09, 2009, 07:04:16 AM
There are non-prescription creams that I can take before the procedure to dull the pain?  Say more!

I'll also talk to the nurse about it.  She discouraged me from using a topical pain reliever before the procedure because she wanted me to be able to tell her if anything was going wrong.  However, given the extreme pain that I felt, I know don't what I could have told her or how it could have hurt worse if something was going wrong.  I am DEFINITELY not going back without some type of pain medication.

For the record, I'm a black man with Obama-toned tan skin.  Laser hair removal is best for fair skinned people with dark hair, so having tan skin might be part of the problem.  I'm pleased to note for any other brothers out there that I've had no skin discoloration.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Some Guy on April 11, 2009, 08:32:00 AM
My tech gave me a topical cream to use. I don't understand how or why they wanted you to tell them if something went wrong?.  Shouldn't they be able to figure that out:)?
The pain was bearable in my case, but have light skin and my hair isn't that dark.  I could tell where the thicker darker hair was because it certainly hurt more. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on April 12, 2009, 07:46:53 AM
It's possible that she had the wrong settings, but it was a reputable place and my technician, who was also a registered nurse, struck me as being very competent, experienced, and compassionate.  It didn't hurt much or at all where my hair is thinner.  Unfortunately, much of the hair in my "horseshoe" is really thick and that's where it hurt a lot.

I should put my visit in some context.  I was really excited by my internet research and scheduled for a same day appointment.  Maybe in the rush we didn't spend enough time going over pain management.  Also, my technician told me that some people just have more pain than others.  Finally, my technician opted for a YAG laser because of my darker skin.  Maybe YAG hurts more?  I don't know.

Everything feels fine now.  My hair growth is noticably slower.  I still have a horseshoe shadow, but I didn't really need to shave for three days.  When I did shave, it was easier than it's ever been before.  I used to have a few patches in the back of the horseshoe that were so thick that they were hard to shave.  I'd have to go over them a few times and often still had embarrassing spots that I noticed later in the day.  No more.  Also, the razor bumps in the crease of my neck are disappearing and there's not the typical sting there after shaving.  That's a nice bonus from the extra work she did around my neckline.  I have a buddy who's jealous of the random ear/nose/eyebrow hair that she zapped for free as she was doing the job.  It's nice not to have to worry about that stuff anymore.

Overall, it was worth it.  I'm pleased with the outcome.

Id like to get my head lasered someday also and have spoken with several other baldies that have had it done.  Common- your experience does not sound like ones I have heard of.  I understand there is some pain but should be nothing like you experience. The laser tech may have the laser energy set too high.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BuzzKC on April 14, 2009, 09:08:05 AM
Ihad my first laser treatment a little over two weeks ago and I really don't see any difference.  If I don't shave it grows. Don't notice any patches or stripes like others have talked about.  Looking into some other laser centers that have packages, the first $200 seems to have been a waste.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on April 15, 2009, 04:37:02 PM
The first treatment should have only killed something like 15% of your hair folicles.  I wouldn't be discouraged if you don't notice a big difference.

I don't have patches or stripes either--thankfully!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Ghost1988 on April 15, 2009, 05:12:59 PM
im really interested in getting lazer except i dont know anything about it. i dont even know what to search for exactly to be honest. where do i go to get my head lazered? do most cities have a place? do i need to grow my hair out when i go to get it done? if anyone knows a website where i can read up on it ide really apreciate it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on April 15, 2009, 07:06:35 PM
its a slow process-trust me after 13 treatments
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Ghost1988 on April 15, 2009, 07:39:38 PM
ya ive heard its fairly slow but it also seems affordable. even for a college kid like me. i dont mind going back a few times to get it redone. they say the darker your hair and fairer your skin the better the results turn out. im fairly pale skinned and have dark brown hair so its a perfect match.

im also not concerned about the pain. im sure i can handle it. i feel the end result will be way worth the discomfort.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BALDANDRE on April 15, 2009, 09:52:36 PM
ya ive heard its fairly slow but it also seems affordable. even for a college kid like me. i dont mind going back a few times to get it redone. they say the darker your hair and fairer your skin the better the results turn out. im fairly pale skinned and have dark brown hair so its a perfect match.

im also not concerned about the pain. im sure i can handle it. i feel the end result will be way worth the discomfort.

I say go for it...you'll be much happy the closer you get to a shadow free perfectly bald head bro! O0
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Ghost1988 on April 15, 2009, 10:11:56 PM
ya i know. especially now thats the hair on tops thinning into a horseshoe. i wish i knew more info on lazer hair removal.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Scott on April 15, 2009, 11:12:25 PM
I'd love to look into this also...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on April 16, 2009, 12:41:17 AM
(1) Get an overview on the technology from looking at "laser hair removal" in Wikipedia and then Google "laser hair removal [your city]" substituting your city for [your city].  Most of the provider websites have lots of information for laser hair removal for the body.  The head is basically the same.  Here's the website from the place that I used: http://www.laserrn.com.

(2) Yeah, most cities have lots of places.

(3) You'll want to shave your hair off before you go in.  The laser burns everything that's outside the skin.  If you don't shave it, the provider will have to.

im really interested in getting lazer except i dont know anything about it. i dont even know what to search for exactly to be honest. where do i go to get my head lazered? do most cities have a place? do i need to grow my hair out when i go to get it done? if anyone knows a website where i can read up on it ide really apreciate it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Kratos on April 16, 2009, 12:43:37 AM
I'd also like to look into this, I hate that shadow more than anything.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on April 16, 2009, 06:51:50 AM
u dont need to shave it clean for a laser treatment. been there done that. what u want is  maybe a 1/2 cut or close to 001. this way they can see the hair when lasering.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BuzzKC on April 16, 2009, 07:01:32 AM
I went in with three days growth, that's what they requested.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on April 16, 2009, 07:14:50 AM
thats considered like 1/2 (in between 0 and 1). thats right. shaving completely doesnt help.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Some Guy on April 16, 2009, 11:55:02 AM
As far as I've found, this forum is really the best place on the web to research it.  There are plenty of FAQs, provided mostly by the laser centers themselves, but not a whole lot of info on getting the head done.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on April 16, 2009, 04:59:22 PM
Good point!  I often have a little stubble (one of the reasons I'm doing this), so I was fine in my session.

Out of curiousity, did you find that over the course of your 13 sessions, the discomfort diminished as you had less hair?

thats considered like 1/2 (in between 0 and 1). thats right. shaving completely doesnt help.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BuzzKC on April 21, 2009, 10:24:14 AM
Curious if any of you have experience with electrolysis.  I know I'll have some grays left on the sides, since the laser won't get rid of those.  Shouldn't be a big deal to shave them off every few days, but being totally smooth would be cool.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: B.Dangerous on April 25, 2009, 10:10:27 PM
I'm going in for my first appointment on Tuesday the 28th.  I've been a little nervous all day so I googled this site and found you guys.  Feeling a little better now.  I've been balding since I was 17 and 5 years strung out on Meth seemed to speed up the process.  Stress I put on my self I guess.  6 years sober in August.  Actually having the president of the California Dermatology Board perform this procedure at about double what I see everybody else paying, but out of my interviews he was the one I trusted, and my piece of mind is worth something.  Mostly worried about the akward possability of patching or streaks until it gets done.  Anybody have this happen to them?  I'm pretty bald on top with dark brown hair and very pale skin.  Luckily I'm in a position where I can and do wear a hat to work, so only a little of my hair line will show if it does patch.  Hair transplant just seemed like alot of people end up getting butchered at a pretty hefty price with probable repeat visits and I just can't stand this shadow that has led me to wear a hat the majority of the time.  I will get a pic up before I go in and update that pic as my procedure moves forward.  Appreciate any words or info you guys have.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: PBurke on April 25, 2009, 10:44:36 PM
glad you found us. congrats on 6 yrs sober. i have no advice though. sorry. good luck. keep us updated.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: B.Dangerous on April 28, 2009, 02:03:36 PM
 O0 Just got home from my appointment.  The bad - Probabally the most pain I've ever had to deal with in a repetetive sense.  I'm sure getting stabbed or breaking my arm hurt more all at once, but I didn't have to break more bones or get stabbed more immediately afterwards.  The good - I got through it!!!  Should take 7 to 10 days for hair to fall out and then another 3 to 5 weeks to see what's gonna grow back.  I will need that amount of time to forget about the pain so I don't go back gunshy.  Luckily 20 - 30% of my hair should be dead by then so the second go round should be less pain.  I'm off to ice my head and eat some good pizza the rest of the day!  I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BuzzKC on April 28, 2009, 06:30:14 PM
i didn't think it was too painful, but then again I haven't seen any results from the first try.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on April 28, 2009, 08:43:29 PM
dont give up yet, Buzz!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: B.Dangerous on April 28, 2009, 08:53:30 PM
Buzz, to me it felt like somebody was shooting me with a piercing gun or needle gun of some sort.  The first half of my head was bearable, but still quite painful.  The second half was the workload.  OUCH!  Used a IPL laser with the setting fairly low, I think 20 or 22.  I was basically told when doing the test spot that my pain level needed to be at a 7.  It was at a 7, but after 1250 pulses, it felt like a 10.  Life is sometimes painful.  Moving forward to round 2.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BuzzKC on April 29, 2009, 07:48:52 AM
I must have a high pain threshold! Getting tattooed didn't phase me either. :)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Some Guy on April 29, 2009, 11:22:10 AM
For me the pain the second time seemed different.  More like burning less like pricking.  And you could smell a lot more hair burning as well.  I think why I found it more tolerable than other pain (like say, getting burned or cracking a rib) is that it did not linger.  When it was over it was over.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on April 30, 2009, 06:48:23 AM
Now that it's been a few weeks since my first treatment, I've noticed that the remaining hair in my "horseshoe" is patchy.  It's fine in the morning right after I shave, but my afternoon shadow looks a little more like a series of birthmarks or veins.  It's not a big deal, but after one treatment I wouldn't be satisfied with this as an end state.  On the bright side, it's pretty solid evidence that some of my hair has been permanently removed.  I'm going back in as soon as I can.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on April 30, 2009, 08:42:04 AM
is it worth it?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on April 30, 2009, 11:19:13 PM
Yeah, I think it's worth it.  I'm only in my 30s, so a few months of sacrifice is going to have a big payback.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on May 01, 2009, 04:53:34 AM
I did it too back in 04-05 when it was new. Worth every penny and some of the pain.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: B.Dangerous on May 07, 2009, 11:43:19 PM
It's been 9 days and my hair started falling out left and right today.  I would assume that withing the next couple days it will be all out.  That begins the approx. 4 to 5 weeks of no hair.  Wondering when and how often my coworkers are gonna ask, what happened to your hair?  I mean, I have been shaving my head and wearing a hat, but now it will be baby butt smooth and even possibly a little unatural in appearance.  No regrets.  I still feel like this was the best route to take with my life.  Just gonna have that akward period I guess, like braces and head gear.  Any thoughts, Marty22? O:O
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Some Guy on May 08, 2009, 07:23:50 AM
I was wondering what the reaction would be as well.  I'm pretty much shadow free at this point and nobody's mentioned it. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on May 08, 2009, 07:25:56 AM
I was wondering what the reaction would be as well.  I'm pretty much shadow free at this point and nobody's mentioned it. 

Most people aren't that observant about things like that.  I doubt that you'll get much reaction at all.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: B.Dangerous on May 08, 2009, 10:46:42 AM
Right on guys.  I directed this at Marty22 because he seems to be the senior counselor when it comes to this subject (had it done for the longest period of time), but I definitely appreciate your words.  I guess your right.  My bestfriend, who is a female, is the only one that knows I'm doing this and she has been telling me the same as you guys from the get go.  I am a constant overthinker on any subject, but luckily in the end of all things I am a confident and happy guy who enjoys life.  Could be worse, I could be a constant underthinker.  lol.  On that note, I'm gonna get out and grab ahold of some of this sunny California weather.  Thanks again guys for everything.  This is a great site.  O0
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: outsider82 on May 11, 2009, 05:32:29 AM
Hey guys,

I've done a little snooping round in Sydney and found a place that does laser hair removal for the scalp. I decided to pay them a visit since it was only three streets away from my work in the city. She was mentioning that your hair needed to be dark in order for the laser to be effective on the hair.

I might consider it but only after being completely sly for a year.  The going rate was AU$70 / 5 mins they didn't give me an estimate as I would need a consultation done. They would need to test my hair to see if it works on me and there wasn't a reaction to the laser on my skin.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: B.Dangerous on May 17, 2009, 10:47:34 AM
My head started breaking out over the last 4 - 7 days.  I'm guessing for the most part ingrown hairs that have not been able to push themselves out due to my regular shaving.  I don't know.  I've been rubbing down with antibacterial wipes after every shave.  Still definitely have hair falling out.  Was hoping it would all fall out a little closer together.  In a perfect world I guess.  Has anybody else had any issues like this?  Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on May 17, 2009, 11:44:14 AM
it happens. You need up to 21 days to fully heal.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Hook'Em on May 17, 2009, 01:06:12 PM
I just had a test run done on the island on the front of my head using a different laser that my derm uses just for hair removal. Is this what your scalp looked like a couple of days after having your treatment? I can't really see, other than the color and that it is rough, that there is any change from before.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on May 17, 2009, 06:12:50 PM
sort of.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: B.Dangerous on May 19, 2009, 10:40:46 AM
A couple days after my treatment my head was still slightly swollen.  The only difference I could tell at that point was that the hair growing had a stiffer texture to it.  Deep fried I guess.  Around day 9 my hair started falling out rapidly for 2-3 days.  At that point when I shaved my head it looked pretty damn smooth, but not all the hairs fell out.  At about the three week point I started breaking out a little and some hair was still falling out.  My bumps are starting to go away now, but all hair is still not gone.  My nurse, without ever doing the head before, had told me that all my hair would fall out and be gone for about 5 weeks.  At that point we were supposed to schedule our next session.  I still have patches of hair and it's almost been a month.  Maybe that's how it works with hair on other parts of the body and that is what she was assuming would happen up top.  I did a simple google search and found out through wikepedia that the growth cycle on your head is not the same.  If I know that, than why don't dermatologists?  It seems as if a solid handful of people on here have had this done now, or started the process, and all seem to be having or have had varied results.  Very interesting.  I guess as long as the end result is the same, the road traveled will matter less as time goes on.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chadimus on May 19, 2009, 01:56:54 PM
I had some professional photography taken a few weeks ago that really brought home how visible my hair halo is and I've decided to take the plunge and start laser removal procedures.  I live in Southern California and I wanted to ask how much I should expect each treatment to cost?  I'm not entirely cost sensitive, but I want to make sure I'm not over-paying since I expect it will take many, many treatments. 

I've read $150 a visit up to $500, so I wanted to get a better understanding of the cost so I can make sure to budget enough to follow through for up to 12 treatments if that's what it takes.

Thanks guys and I really appreciate this forum, it's been very helpful.


Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: xnewyawka on May 20, 2009, 01:47:50 PM
Save yourself a load of money chadimus, and just keep shaving it.     :/O
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BuzzKC on May 20, 2009, 02:04:01 PM
I gave it a try and didn't get any result. I know that isn't typical. Some guys here have great results after a dozen sessions.  I'm just not committed to looking like a patchy radiation victim during the process.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Some Guy on May 20, 2009, 02:29:46 PM
I let my hair grow in for nearly a week to see where I was at after the two laser treatments I had over 2 months ago.  There are some small dark spots, but the rest of the remaining hair is fine and white.   When shaved the spots are barely noticeable.  I'm planning on scheduling another visit but am in no hurry as funds are low. As we've discovered, results will vary.  At this point shaving is a breeze and now a fusion blade is good for about 3 weeks.
The hairier pic is from this time last year. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Hook'Em on May 20, 2009, 05:25:39 PM
Some Guy...do you feel stubble every day and do you shave it or do/can you go days in between shaves?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Some Guy on May 20, 2009, 05:35:25 PM
just a little after a day on the back, it's slight.  The sides are pretty much stubble free for 2 days.  Because the hair is white there's not much shadow unless I let it grow in for a few days.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chadimus on May 21, 2009, 08:57:42 AM
Since I spend up to five bucks a week on razors I don't see how skipping the laser treatments is cost effective in the long run.  I'm spending 5 minutes a day and $250 a year on razors and still not happy with the look.  And I think the entire concept of continuing to shave just to "keep it real" is rather lame.

SO....  I went in for a consultation today and ended up getting my first treatment.  $800 for five treatments and I decided to take the plunge on the spot.

It took about an hour and at some points the pain was excruciating.  Since the doctor would have preferred to use a higher setting on the laser to achieve a better result, the next treatment in a month will include applying a topical numbing agent an hour prior to the treatment.

It's hard to see much of an effect the day after but I've already committed to another four sessions.  He seemed confident it would take 5 sessions and at the extreme, possibly one or two more. 

If I can achieve the smooth look that requires little to no shaving for the rest of my life, then its all worth it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Hook'Em on May 21, 2009, 09:46:38 AM
Good for you chadimus.  Keep us informed on how it's going and post up some pics if you dont mind.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: B.Dangerous on May 21, 2009, 11:55:55 AM
Congrads Chadimus!  My new question I've developed this morning is "what happens to the white hairs?".  To my knowledge white hairs are not effected by laser and I'm having some white hairs grow back.  I'm just going to have to shave those off occasionally?  Anyone?  . . . . . . . . On another note, this is not timing itself the way it was planned so I'm a little confused on when to go back.  I know, I know, call your doc right?  The plan was all the hair was supposed to fall out and then when it started to come back I would reschedule.  Some of the hair still seems to be falling out along with some white and thin hairs growing back in inplace of some of the hairs that had previously fallen out. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chadimus on May 21, 2009, 03:01:15 PM
Maybe I didn't ask enough questions or enough homework....

Are hairs supposed to fall out between treatments?  I was assuming that after a zap and a shower, what you see is basically what you've accomplished for that treatment.

Also, very important, the doc recommended not shaving my head for five days afterward, but I'm really wanting to shave over the weekend.  I should have just asked him the dumb question of why I can't shave, but didn't.  Anyone know what the issues are with shaving two days after laser treatment.

Wishing I could fast forward a few months to see where this is going...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: SlyintheOC on May 21, 2009, 04:00:08 PM
They probably do not want you to shave to allow the skin time to heal. Shaving would further irritate the skin. When I had laser hair removal done on my back and chest, they also told me to keep an SPF48 or higher on everyday for at least a week even though I had clothes on. So be sure to protect your dome with a very high SPF.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Some Guy on May 22, 2009, 09:40:49 AM
You usually won't see any results for like 10 to 14 days and then hair could continue to fall out for up to 3 weeks.   I was never told to avoid shaving but apparently the sun is a definite no no. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Hook'Em on May 25, 2009, 08:45:02 AM
Chadimus, you have any hair fall out yet? The little test strip i had done has let go of the little buggers. Now I need to get the rest done!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chadimus on May 25, 2009, 04:29:32 PM
Hard to say at this point.  I think my first treatment was on a weaker setting than the doctor would have preferred, so next time we'll be numbing the dome in advance of the treatment.  It does look a little different and some of the hairs on the top of my head where there was very little hair to begin with are rough little bumps and even after I shave over them, they are still very visible.  I'm assuming these are dead follicles and eventually those will disappear completely.

I'm not really inspecting it much at this point.  I think it'll all work out after a few treatments, so I'm not going to make any rash judgments.

I'll take photos right before the next treatment and post them. 

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BuzzKC on May 26, 2009, 09:40:15 AM
Some Guy's results look pretty good.  I would be fine with results like that. Shaving what's left would be a breeze. About time for me to go ahead and schedule another appt.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on June 03, 2009, 03:38:28 PM
It's been three weeks since my second treatment.  I shave every day to avoid patches, but could probably skip days if I wanted to.  My dome is looking good.  No shadow left on the sides and just a little on the back.

One funny thing.  I've begun noticing imperfections on other sly guys that I used to admire.  I see the hair they missed behind their ears, for instance.  That will never be a problem for me now.  "How sloppy," I think.

I'll post some pics after the hair from the third treatment falls out.  I think I'll be pretty good at that point, but I prepaid for eight sessions and want to get things perfect.

The hair seemed to come out faster after the treatments when I (a) shaved against the grain, and (b) rubbed my head with a loofa while showering.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: HateMyHairShadow on June 03, 2009, 03:42:05 PM
I'd also like to look into this, I hate that shadow more than anything.

Totally agree!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: HateMyHairShadow on June 03, 2009, 04:11:50 PM
Im going for hair removal in okt when I have stopped taken accutane (isotretinoin). However, I have to ask. Are you guys referring to laser as IPL laser or something else? Im from Sweden and Im going for IPL and since I have very dark hair and light skin tone Im an optimal candidate for the treatment. I had troubles finding a clinic who had experience on this though, but finally i found one. I dont know what I would have done if that wasnt the case. Fortunately I live in Stockholm so it made it easier in the search.

The reason why Im asking is that they said (on the clinic) that IPL is friendlier to the skin than regular laser and will A - make the results better and B - decrease the pain.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on June 06, 2009, 09:21:29 AM
I have darker skin, so I'm using a YAG laser.  My skin seems to be doing fine, but the pain during the session is intense.  Hopefully it will be less painful with the IPL laser, but I can't see how.  Ultimately, the laser needs to penetrate the skin and heat the hair folicle.  It's the heat in the hair folicles that hurts so much.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Meatman on June 11, 2009, 07:56:11 AM
Some Guys results do look great.  I am really leaning to having this done soon.  I want a dome that and is shadow free..or at least shadow minimal.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Some Guy on June 11, 2009, 06:19:05 PM
Thanks.  I haven't posted on this thread in a while.  Within the past three  weeks I've noticed a few more darker hairs coming in, leading to a bit more shadow, but I also have a good tan going now so the shadow is still not very pronounced.  It's also even, not patchy or weird looking, so that's a plus.  I need to schedule another visit, but am deciding whether to wait until end of summer when my head is back to pasty white....
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Hook'Em on June 22, 2009, 09:40:43 AM
Any updates guys?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on June 25, 2009, 10:05:27 PM
I just finished my third treatment.  The nurse and I agree that at my current progress it won't require eight treatments to get the job done.  Nearly all of my hair is gone, with just a patch or two remaining in the back.

I was surprised by the level of pain when she lasered the patches of remaining hair.  It's hard to believe that I survived the first treatment since it all hurt that much.  For those considering doing this, I strongly recommend going to your doctor first and getting a prescription for a strong pain medicine like vicodin or percocet.  Remember to take the medicine 30-45 minutes ahead of time for full potency.  Ibuprofen and the topical head pain reliever didn't get the job done for me.

This visit was vastly better than my first.  No regrets.  As has been mentioned: the results are worth all of the money and most of the pain.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: warhawk on June 25, 2009, 10:10:10 PM
hey common:  thanks 4 the update.  that dome is looking smooooooth.  where & approximately how much did ya spend 4 each treatment? 

WARHAWK O0
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BuzzKC on June 26, 2009, 07:33:25 AM
common, looks great.  I'm going to lay off until fall/winter.  way too much sun lately.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on June 26, 2009, 03:48:36 PM
My touch-up will be done in Sept. You need 30 days after going in the sun; and then need to let your scalp rest for another 21 before going back into the sun. Hey BUZZ
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on June 29, 2009, 04:39:28 PM
Hey guys,

New here and just wanted to give my thoughts on the laser hair removal.

I actually just got back from my first session less than an hour ago. It is not fun at all. I think I had to ask her to take a break probably 40-50 times in the 1hr it took to completely finish. I highly recommend that you find some kind of numbing gel or lotion and let it soak in before your sessions if you decide to do it. I have my next session July 25th.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on July 02, 2009, 12:20:17 PM
Figured I would give you guys another update as to what it is like. It has now been 4 days since My first laser hair removal treatment on my nugget. It is not very tender anymore. However, I did decide to try working out again today and the sweat started to burn. So I had to cut my workout short. I did try and shave it yesterday and I think that might be why it is aggravated. Cannot wait until I am fully done.

I have not started to see the hairs falling out like everyone says. But I did notice that they had said roughly nine days. Something I am looking forward to.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on July 02, 2009, 04:35:26 PM
been there; done that. Wait 10 days or so to shave. Soreness could last up to 10 days also. Depends how much u had done and what areas. around the sides is a killer. Feel free to write me.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Thebaldnation on July 04, 2009, 12:47:03 PM
Although i agree that laser would save you alot of money in the long run, i think that i would miss the art of shaving in the long run, plus, shaving represents my independence on a daily basis. So i would have to say no to that
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on July 04, 2009, 05:00:50 PM
I'm am going to have to say not having to shave my head anymore will save my independence from the razor :)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: benmcd on July 04, 2009, 06:34:22 PM
Hey there K2.
I was wondering if you found it difficult to find a laser hair removal place that actually did scalp procedures. Were they in any way hesitant to go ahead and do this for you. Online you don't see them offering the scalp as a body part that they remove hair from. Perhaps it could be good to put a list of establishments who actually offer this service. Would be interested to hear what their reaction was to your request.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on July 04, 2009, 07:56:20 PM
Living in Colorado, I had it done at this place: www.laserrn.com.  The cost is $150/session or pre-pay eight sessions for $1,050.  An added bonus is that they catch little random hairs (ear, nose, some neck, between the eyebrows) for free.

In terms of having your scalp done, the folks at this place all seemed pretty comfortable providing this service.  They'd done it before and have been entirely professional.  The one drawback is since they're all female, none of them have experienced laser hair removal on the scalp first-hand.  So, they can empathize with my pain, but don't completely understand it.

hey common:  thanks 4 the update.  that dome is looking smooooooth.  where & approximately how much did ya spend 4 each treatment? 

WARHAWK O0
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on July 04, 2009, 09:14:48 PM
and why did u go the laser route?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on July 05, 2009, 08:19:04 AM

Hey Will,
     I did have to call a few places around here. I called Ideal Image which is supposedly a huge company nationwide and they refused to do it. I called a few dermatology offices and some would and some wouldn't do it. What I did find though which seemed kind of interesting and some good knowledge to have is.......... Beauty salons/Spas that do laser hair removal all seemed willing to do it. It might be a little more pricey. The Derm offices quoted me at roughly $300 per session but they were over an hour away. Glow Savannah quoted me at $500 per session but I got them down to $350 and they are about 2 miles from me.

So really to answer your question. Only ideal image gave me any kind of reason that they wouldn't do it. They said it was because there had not been enough research done on that particular area.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on July 05, 2009, 09:50:28 AM
times have changed. when I started getting treatments in the Fall of 2004; nobody ever had this done that I know of. Even my laser tech, who works for a well-known dermatology firm on LI, only had 1 person, who had inquired. I was her lst case. And looking back, it really was no big deal having my hair lasered off the top to make it look better.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: DaDi on July 10, 2009, 04:26:51 AM
i asked for laser removal here in greece
they told me that for the total removal (sly forever) needs 8 sessions

The total cost is 3.000 euro (4.197 dollars)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on July 18, 2009, 11:53:39 AM
The skin on the scalp is filled with extra blood vessels for the purpose of feeding the hair follicles.  This additional blood will affect the color of the scalp.  I don't know if this is a big enough factor for those with darker skin tones, but in white guys one of the reasons that scars are stand out on a shaved white scalp is due to the lack of blood vessels in the skin due to the absence of hair follicles.  So have any of you laser-baldies noticed a gradual difference in the color of your scalp over time?  I would imagine that a lot of blood vessels would atrophy and vanish since they'd no longer be needed.


The biggest thing that keeps me away from laser hair removal is that it can't kill all the hairs.  I worry about getting so lazy with my shaving that I'd eventually walk around with dozens of 6" fine white hairs growing randomly out of my scalp. 


I'n a couple weeks it will be 10 years for me, so this look isn't a passing whim for me,  I shave at night so I always have the sandpaper feel during the bulk of the day and a rough sandpaper feel if I skip a day.


Unfortunately a lot of my hair is white (20%?) and discovered this when I had to let it grow for about a week due to an injury, so it would be impossible for me to get a smooth scalp anyway.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on July 18, 2009, 11:55:42 AM
BTW, on this forum (and this thread) I see people mentioning a photo they've attached but I usually don't see any sign of a photo.  Why is that?  I'd really love to see the ones on this thread because I'd like to see the strange lines and spots some have mentioned during their intermediate stages.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on July 21, 2009, 04:38:44 AM
Hey guys,

Just thought id give another update. I am currently in Spain on vacation (ran with the bulls) and hotel internet is sparse so I have not been able to say anything.

Once I got passed the rough head stage that looks like in grown hairs all over the place I was relieved. It itches a lot but I did not want to scratch it. Now that my head is fully healed from the first treatment I am very happy.

The hair already does not grow in as fast and is more soft than it used to be. I know it doesn't seem like much of a difference but I have noticed that it now takes a little over 2 days to get to the point that it used to get to in 1 day. So when I get my next treatment on the 25th I hope it slows down even more :)

Stay Sly
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on July 25, 2009, 05:31:29 PM
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv513%2F1wolf3%2Fcraigslist%2F0725090828a.jpg&hash=171b6b4284367820576d27cd1450507d)

Here is what my head looks like after 1 treatment. I was just about to leave for my second.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on July 25, 2009, 06:17:32 PM
take it all the way if u can!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on July 25, 2009, 06:28:25 PM
I do plan on it. The only problem I have seen so far is I think I have about 15-20 gray hairs total. They are not white so I hope I can still ZAP them gone You can already see a receding hair line... I never actually had that. It is strictly from the laser treatment.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on July 26, 2009, 01:38:40 AM
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.realself.com%2Ffiles%2Fimagecache%2Ffull%2Fimages%2F1z1dzzn.jpg&hash=2468b81784ba193484a358fe870c560b)

I don't really like the looks of how these treatments seem to create such large patches of bald spots.  What would keep it from evenly destroying the hairs?  Are these signs of operator error where they hover the laser over the skin longer than in other areas?

K2's head shows this to some degree but it doesn't seem all that bad (especially since it was after the first treatment), but this beard photo is pretty damn scary.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on July 26, 2009, 05:22:36 AM
How many treatments have you had? From what I understand it will look like that to some degree until you are fully done (6-8 treatments). After 4 is when it should be most noticeable, then come the follow ups that hit everything else. The first 3-4 should be treatments that cover the Full area whether it looks like that or not. After those it should hit only areas that still have hair.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on July 30, 2009, 10:33:30 AM
I had some areas that looked a little like that after my first and second treatments.  It wasn't very noticable as the hair lines look like veins.  In general, I'd say that my dome appearance was improved starting with the first treatment.

(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.realself.com%2Ffiles%2Fimagecache%2Ffull%2Fimages%2F1z1dzzn.jpg&hash=2468b81784ba193484a358fe870c560b)

I don't really like the looks of how these treatments seem to create such large patches of bald spots.  What would keep it from evenly destroying the hairs?  Are these signs of operator error where they hover the laser over the skin longer than in other areas?

K2's head shows this to some degree but it doesn't seem all that bad (especially since it was after the first treatment), but this beard photo is pretty damn scary.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on August 03, 2009, 03:29:37 PM
Hey guys. I am new here. I actually registered because of this topic and my interest. For those of you who have had it done, how often do you need to hit it with the razor before you start getting stubble again? or does it just completely go away??? Ive read through the thread and it sounds like the hair comes back very thin and white??? I like to go outdoors allot, do camping trips etc and being able to go days without having to bic my head sounds really appealing. I am committed to the smooth look, i love it and dont think i will ever want go back to having hair ever again.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on August 06, 2009, 03:08:34 PM
It does not just grow back in white. What people are refering to is that the laser does always destroy the white hairs. So if you do have some white hairs they might not go away. Get it zapped before they start turning white. Im about to post some pics after my second treatment. Im gonna ive it a few more days and let it grow out for 4-5 days first. Its growing in a lot slower now. 4-5 days of growth is actually about 1-2 days before.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on August 06, 2009, 06:34:49 PM
white hairs CANNOT be lasered. Only electrolysis.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on August 06, 2009, 09:13:20 PM
My fault. I was meaning to say that they cannot be zapped once they are white. I left out a word
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on August 07, 2009, 12:29:04 AM
Make sure to post those photos K2. i wanna see what your 4-5 days looks like!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on August 13, 2009, 05:21:54 PM
Alright guys I finally got around to taking and posting some pics of my head after my SECOND laser treatment. Im going in for my third treatment on Thursday the 20th. I know it looks like I have a receding hairline but it is strictly from the treatments. I had a full head of black hair before starting them. I let it grow out just to verify before I started. From my widows peak to about 3 inches back is already almost fully gone. You can sort of tell in the pics but it is WAY more noticeable in person. There is a distinct line.


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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Antimidas on August 13, 2009, 05:50:22 PM
Is the splotchy appearance something that is ongoing until you complete treatments, or is that because you let it grow out a bit?  How many treatments in total?  And is there any ongoing maintenance treatments that you will need to do?

I think I might see if I can keep the shave going for a year before I actually consider it.  But knowing what my hair line looks like when it grows compared to the sly look, I don't think it will be a problem maintaining it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on August 13, 2009, 06:21:39 PM
are u satisfied so far K2?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: slyatlast on August 13, 2009, 06:38:57 PM
How long will it last?  Looks like a time-consuming process.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on August 13, 2009, 06:54:52 PM
Ya so far I am happy. I did not think it would be this far after only two treatments. I cannot wait to finish... which will take 8 im guessing. The hair is definitely thinner now too. So it is a lot easier to shave it.

Slyatlast - once it is gone.... its gone... no more coming back ever. So it will last forever.

Antimidas - I waited also and I do not recommend it. If you start growing grey or white hairs it does not kill them. I would get it done before that happens. The splotches are ongoing until it is complete. Each time less and less should grow in. If you keep it shaved while getting the treatments you cannot tell it is splotchy. No maintenance once it is complete.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on August 13, 2009, 11:19:22 PM
wow. no maintenance. Pretty crazy to think about it. just crazy to think about not having ANY hair ever again. how old are you k2? i cant wait to see the progression up to treatment 8. Make sure to post a 4-5 day growth like this after every treatment so we can log it and see the differences. I personally find this really cool.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on August 14, 2009, 05:09:42 AM
I am 27. Have been shaving since 5th grade. Let it grow out a few time for a few months since then but that is about it. Like I said I have my third treatment next Thursday but I will not be able to post pictures for a few months. I am in the Army and I will be deployed until the new year. I plan on getting my 4th treatment within the first week of being back so I will have to remember to take pics before then.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on August 14, 2009, 05:38:28 AM
any reason u shaved it at age 12 or so in the 5th grade?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BuzzKC on August 14, 2009, 07:14:05 AM
Looks like you're getting pretty good results.  Once all those round patches converge you'll be totally bald.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on August 14, 2009, 11:49:34 AM
what are you doing with your sideburns???
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on August 14, 2009, 05:14:59 PM
I am 27. Have been shaving since 5th grade. Let it grow out a few time for a few months since then but that is about it. Like I said I have my third treatment next Thursday but I will not be able to post pictures for a few months. I am in the Army and I will be deployed until the new year. I plan on getting my 4th treatment within the first week of being back so I will have to remember to take pics before then.
5th grade?  5th freaking grade?  Wow, that's pretty damn impressive.  I was 10 in the 5th grade.  I hate it when people ask me "why do you shave your head" as if liking the style is something you have to justify, but I've gotta ask: what made you start shaving your head in the 5th grade?  And are we talking a real shave or a buzz cut?

In the 5th grade my parents were lucky to get me to comb my hair before leaving the house so I couldn't imagine dedicating myself to shaving back then.


As for the laser treatments, that blotchiness seems more like it's more of a result of the technology or the technician than your scalp's response to the laser.  Why else would this cluster of hairs decide to die while the next cluster decides to grow normally?  It seems to me that the laser ought to kill all the black growing hairs in one treatment and then subsequent treatments would only get the hairs that have begun their growth cycle after the prior treatment.  I don't understand why any black hairs should survive a treatment.

I'm really getting interested in trying the shadowless look, but as my hair's been going gray since highschool I'm sure this wouldn't work anyway.  I am considering tweezing, but I don't know if I want to waste 12 hours on that first tweeze.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on August 14, 2009, 05:23:06 PM
But if u can get rid of a lot of black/other color hairs; u may be able to get close to a shiny dome.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Antimidas on August 14, 2009, 08:13:04 PM
Marty is correct.  It would diminsh the amount that you need to tweeze and would reduce the agony of that initial process.  As long as there is some color, they should be able to zap it.  I checked the ad on here for American Laser Centers (or whatever one it is) and they state that it will work on even blonde hairs - just not gray.  But I guess it would all boil down to a cost benefit ratio.  I kinda like the feeling of shaving.  It is about the only time I pamper myself.  I am also fortunate that my hair commits suicide before it ever turns gray so it buys me some time.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on August 16, 2009, 07:42:06 PM
I had a nasty infection on my scalp when I was in 5th grade and that's what made me start shaving it. I just kept up the trend ever since then. Sideburns and facial hair I am keeping. I am in the military but when I get out I do plan on growing the facial hair out completely.

The blotchyness is normal from what I understand and that is why I will need touch up treatments up to 8 total. From what the lady told me she was surprised that I even had patches missing so far. She said I shouldn't start to see a difference until after the 3rd because of the 2 cycles of hair growth.

I understand what some of you are saying about the ritual of shaving and the cost effectiveness. Shaving to me is nothing that I will miss. It is just longer I have to stay in the shower if you ask me. Because I do grow thick facial hair and I shave my head pretty much daily I did some math and figured I spend $40-50 a month on razors. With the cost of 8 treatments at $350 each I figure it would take 4-5 years of buying razors and that would cover the cost of the treatments. So I spend the 4-5 years in advance or I buy razors for another 60-70 years....Easy choice for me. I can use my electric on my face and NEVER buy razors again. Except to shave my butt!   HEHEHE
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Antimidas on August 16, 2009, 09:00:27 PM
I can use my electric on my face and NEVER buy razors again. Except to shave my butt!   HEHEHE

You can get that lasered as well from what my doctor tells me.  :)  Watch out for pilonidal cysts AKA "Jeep seat".  I can tell you from first hand experience that surgery for that is a real bitch!   :o
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mike on August 16, 2009, 09:50:03 PM
I have been thinking about doing this more and more because I have a spot about 4" square at the base of my neck that I can never get smooth and it gets irritated. I plan on keeping the Sly look for good, I noticed the other day when I was out of razors that my hairline is starting to go back.
 What was the pain like compared to a tattoo?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Antimidas on August 16, 2009, 09:57:05 PM
I have been thinking about doing this more and more because I have a spot about 4" square at the base of my neck that I can never get smooth and it gets irritated.

Is it red or a different color than the rest of your scalp and beneath the fold on the back of your head?  I have the same problem the closer to my neck I get.  I noticed the "splotch" after the first shave and it has not changed color or shape, so I don't think it is irritation.

I've been reading up on laser and from the best research I can gather, it is just a tingle and mild discomfort as the follicles are being burned out rather quickly.  Is that accurate?  If that is all it is, I might consider the same thing.  Just wanna find out what it is like in a Minnesota winter first.  Still riding the fence.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mike on August 16, 2009, 10:08:12 PM
Its always in the same general area and it becomes really red when I try to get it smooth, I have to go sideways  and all that.

 It probably wouldnt save me much money becuase I go through a pack of blades a month (~$10) and a bottle of headslick every 4-5 months (~$7) so not much cost for me. But I get tired of shaving and when I am at the lake place or camping or something its hard to shave. For me it would be convenience and maybe the cost in like 40 years, lol.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Antimidas on August 16, 2009, 10:10:44 PM
Well, we blow money on convenience for everything else.  Why not this?  I have not tracked my expenditures yet, but over my first month, I have bought a ton of stuff to see what works best.  At this rate, I could make my money back in a couple of years.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on August 17, 2009, 06:06:04 AM
Well for the pain ill put it like this... I know I have posted earlier about this but I will again.... I am covered in tattoos. The worst pain I have ever been in was getting a pinup girl on my left oblique.. This hurts damn close to that. Some areas I can just knock it out like the front part of my scalp like my hair line cause the pain isnt as intense. Behind the ears and on the upper portion of the back of the scalp hurt the worst for me. In 1 treatment I have to ask probably 30-40 times for a break. Sometimes as soon as that laser hits the first zap after a break, it hurts bad enough that I have to tell her to stop again. It is lighting the hair up and burning the follicle. There are more than one hair coming out of each follcile so imagine have 3-4-5 hairs burning the same area at the same time.

Another thing I have noticed is that no matter where she is working, it usually feels like it is in a central spot. The area she zaps on me is about 2"x2" and it feels like she is zapping one little area. Almost like just sticking a needle in the same spot over and over. I know it sounds pretty bad by what I am saying but it really is bearable.

When I went in for my second treatment I went in about 30 minutes early. They put some numbing gel on my head and it actually did numb it. She had a freeze pack on my scalp and I could not feel cold at all so I know it was working. The pain was still just as intense though. Still worth it for me even with the pain. A tingle and mild discomfort is a complete understatement. It actually hurt less my first treatment with no numbing gel.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Antimidas on August 17, 2009, 10:30:17 AM
God, that sounds like torture!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on August 17, 2009, 11:02:35 AM
it is torture!  My lst-3rd treatments, which took off the most hair, were 15-20 mins. each of pure torture. Other treatments werent so bad.

Having the back lowered, was beyond miserable. And I had numbing gel that worked so-so.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on August 17, 2009, 02:39:18 PM
I agree.... TORTURE!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on August 17, 2009, 04:01:37 PM
Definitely torture.  The money to pay for the treatment part is comparatively easy.  The pain is the tough part.

I just finished my fourth treatment.  I had some patchiness after the first couple of treatments, but things were looking pretty smooth after treatment three.  I even thought I might be able to finish with only five or six treatments.  Nope.  I have a whole new growth of hair now.  It's thinner than before, but covers most of my head.  Must be the new growth cycle.  Treatment four hurt almost as much as treatment one.

K2 you're very, very lucky to have found that numbing gell.  What's it called?  The topical anesthetic that my clinic uses hardly works at all!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Antimidas on August 17, 2009, 04:55:53 PM
Ok.  Maybe I just don't get it.  Everyone who has gone through it or is going through it describes it as torture.  If so, then why continue?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on August 17, 2009, 06:04:22 PM
I honestly don't know what the name of that gel was. I just went in and they put it on my head with a tongue depressor 30 minutes before I started. All  I know is it looked like a brown prescription bottle. I'm getting it again on Thursday.

You made me sad thinking that after my 3rd or 4th i will start getting another growth. I hope I turn out more lucky.


WOO WHOOO... changed my appointment... got my 3rd one today.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on August 18, 2009, 03:17:18 PM
K2:  How often are you going in for your treatments.  My clinic is having me wait 6 weeks between mine.

Antimidas: Regarding the pain, I think that it's trading some pain today for convenience/appearance in the future.  It's only 40-60 mins, with breaks, and almost anyone can bear that.

I honestly don't know what the name of that gel was. I just went in and they put it on my head with a tongue depressor 30 minutes before I started. All  I know is it looked like a brown prescription bottle. I'm getting it again on Thursday.

You made me sad thinking that after my 3rd or 4th i will start getting another growth. I hope I turn out more lucky.


WOO WHOOO... changed my appointment... got my 3rd one today.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on August 18, 2009, 03:40:13 PM
Well between 1st and 2nd treatment it was 5 weeks... 2nd and 3rd was only 4.. but this is because I am deploying and cannot wait any longer. This was actually not that bad. Since I already have less hair and I popped an 800mg motrin about 30 minutes before then popped another one right before. I only needed 7 breaks this time...... I counted.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on August 18, 2009, 05:02:36 PM
Despite the pain: Id do it again.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on August 22, 2009, 09:58:41 AM
No pain no gain! The pain is probably whatever to people who want this done. I personally have a high tolerance for pain. Im probably going to get this done next winter. I cant wait to see your guy's results!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on August 22, 2009, 02:59:17 PM
I had a nasty infection on my scalp when I was in 5th grade and that's what made me start shaving it. I just kept up the trend ever since then. Sideburns and facial hair I am keeping. I am in the military but when I get out I do plan on growing the facial hair out completely.


Just out of curiosity, why did the infection require you to shave your head?  Was it so you could apply topical meds?  Pretty cool that you liked it so much that you kept it that way, and that your parents allowed you to.  If I had to shave my head when I was ten, I'd have considered it nothing short of a tragedy.  Of course, nobody was shaving their heads in those days.  You must have a been a pretty confident kid.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on August 22, 2009, 03:06:01 PM
I started shaving my head after the infection went away actually because it left some pretty wicked scars that I do not like. At first my parents did not like the idea but what could they do? I was already shaved. I just went in to the bathroom one day... shaved my head with some clippers and broke out the razor. Nicks and cuts everywhere. What a horrible first experience. Now I just want it gone so that I do not have to shave anymore. People with hair are pussies anyways :)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: apocalyps3 on September 14, 2009, 12:24:58 PM
Thought I'd post my experiences with laser hair removal on my scalp...

I wanted to get it done because I hate shaving.  The amount of time I waste in the bathroom shaving can be better spent elsewhere.  I was reluctant to try it because a) I didn't know about the side effects or future side effects and b) I had heard it was expensive.  Lucky for me, a friend of mine told me that her mom actually did it for a living.  So I went to speak to her about it.  She had done it for one guy previously and she said he had been happy with the results.  She didn't have much to share about the side effects, other than the pain, but I figured I'd give it a shot.   She offered to do it for free since my wife is such a good friend of their family!

So now I just finished my 6th treatment last week.  I can definitely notice the change.  There are large sections where the hair is almost entirely gone (the horseshoe around the back of the head).  You can really only tell that there's hair there if you run your hand along it.  The first 3 treatments showed a lot of progress and to be honest there were weeks there where I looked pretty weird.  I shave every day, but you could still see bare spots all over my head.  I looked like I had some weird disease.  I can live with that as long as its temporary.

After the 3rd treatment progress has been a little slower.  It still seems to be working, its just taking a lot longer.  I don't know if that's because she's going easy on me.  She's said before that she's taking it slow with me because she doesn't want to cause a lot of pain.  Each session takes about 15 minutes max. 

The weird thing is that it seems like my existing hair that hasn't been effected yet is growing at a faster rate now.  Maybe its just because its more visible than before or what, I don't know.  I'm willing to patient with the process (what other choice do I have at this point), but I'm starting to worry that it'll never really get me a clean look that I was hoping for.  I'll say this though, shaving is definitely faster and easier.

About the pain... she's said she has me on the lowest setting.  Each blast of the laser feels like a needle jab.  It only hurts for that instant and then goes away.  Most of the blasts are very tolerable.  There is no pain afterwards.  Occasionally though there is a blast that brings tears to my eyes.  These hurt like a mother f'er and are becoming more frequent after each session.  I suspect she's turning up the setting and just hasn't said anything.  They hurt like bitch, but are tolerable.  If the sessions lasted any longer than they do though, I would consider asking for a break... or a shot of vodka.

Hope this helps someone, I wish I had found this forum before I started my treatments.  I couldn't find any info on getting laser hair removal on the scalp before I decided to go for it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on September 14, 2009, 04:25:08 PM
welcome and post a pic when u can!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kdog on September 14, 2009, 07:19:14 PM
hey common,
I've a similar skin tone to yours... a laser clinic told me I've dark skin so not recommended plus there are risks like permanent marking, streaks and what not! scared the hell outta me, didn't wanna get something like that permanently on my head. Secondly they said there could be patches of hair left afterwards which would look odd. The feeling I got was these guys don't wanna do it so should look somewhere else. If it worked for you it should for me too. The pain sounds bad though!!

What I'm curious about is whether this thing is permanent..okay if u do get a number of treatments and target all the growth stages etc would you be rid of your hair forever...really FOREVER?

thanks
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on September 14, 2009, 07:30:07 PM
it has worked for me; but I did it differently. I gave myself a real old man's MPB since I had a lot of gray and couldnt complete the deal. It does work but it takes more than the 5-6 treatments.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mike on September 14, 2009, 10:20:40 PM
I have been thinking about this more and more now that I have enough money to do it but am slightly nervous about it. I have heard almost all good things about it but its the very few bad things I have heard that make me hesitant like the pain and what if they dont get it all. But I am 98% sure I want to have it done, I hate hair and never knew what to do with it, always got the same haircut since time began. Now that I shave my hair grows slower so I can really only shave every other day because when I shave daily I get razor burn. So by the second day its velcro like and annoying as heck. Plus my neck hair is a pain. And when I finally get brave enough to get is lasered off I can get my unibrow taken care of! I am thinking about starting it next month or so after I get a truck and a new laptop (about a months worth of pay) then after that I will get it done. I figure it will pay for its self in about 3 years and plus the time saved will be great, I figure I spend about 2 1/2 days a year just shaving.
 So from start to finish how long does it take, about a year or what?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: DaDi on September 15, 2009, 01:26:28 AM
I have been thinking about this more and more now that I have enough money to do it but am slightly nervous about it. I have heard almost all good things about it but its the very few bad things I have heard that make me hesitant like the pain and what if they dont get it all. But I am 98% sure I want to have it done, I hate hair and never knew what to do with it, always got the same haircut since time began. Now that I shave my hair grows slower so I can really only shave every other day because when I shave daily I get razor burn. So by the second day its velcro like and annoying as heck. Plus my neck hair is a pain. And when I finally get brave enough to get is lasered off I can get my unibrow taken care of! I am thinking about starting it next month or so after I get a truck and a new laptop (about a months worth of pay) then after that I will get it done. I figure it will pay for its self in about 3 years and plus the time saved will be great, I figure I spend about 2 1/2 days a year just shaving.
 So from start to finish how long does it take, about a year or what?

you need at least 8 operations for a complete (?) removal
you must wait 3 months after each operaton
so 8 x 3 = 24 (+) months for a sly head without razor :)

the above info is from a friend that is totally sly after laser operations
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on September 15, 2009, 04:18:49 AM
1 month between not 3
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kdog on September 15, 2009, 05:51:53 AM
1 month between not 3

marty, u seem to be the most experienced here. i believe u got this done ages ago...do u have to still go for maintenance zaps and if so how often? so, u don't need to shave (except for the greys)?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on September 15, 2009, 07:40:52 AM
started in 04; went thru 07. once a year i get a touchup.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kdog on September 15, 2009, 07:56:35 AM
started in 04; went thru 07. once a year i get a touchup.

thanks Marty, reading all the stuff here, looks like it's worth it albeit painful !!! I'm gonna take the plunge - just need to find someone who does it...bye bye to shadow forever  :D

Have to say this is a brill site, very hard to find anything on this topic on web...well done guys! Great support for anyone going down this lonely road  ;)

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on September 15, 2009, 08:47:01 AM
Im sure it will work. Check out laser centers or dermatologists offices. I was nutso when I started and after 2 treatments, I knew i had made the right decision. It was innovative and I was nervous but its worked.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kdog on September 15, 2009, 08:56:15 AM
will do, thnx for the support...while looking for a clinic, I might give this tweezing thing a go...just to see how painful it is!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on September 20, 2009, 10:37:11 PM

you guys are crazy about tweezing your head. YIKES! I have already done 3 of the laser treatments and would never put myself through tweezing. That takes HOURS.... 1 treatment = 1 hr
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on September 21, 2009, 12:30:08 PM
Hey Marty howmuch do you have to pay for the touchup? Just the price of 1 session?

I am really thinking about starting this in a month or two.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on September 22, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
I have definitely not had any problems with marking, streaks, etc.  In fact, the dome looks very good.  I've now completed four treatments.  The hair that's left is very thin, more like peach fuzz.  I only shave every other day now, and I always have a clean-shaven look.

If you're at all dark-skinned, I recommend using a clinic that has a YAG laser.  There are plenty, so you shouldn't have a hard time finding one.  Also, I'm extra careful to use a strong sunscreen everyday for the week or two after each treatment.

As I've said before, laser hair removal is definitely worth it in terms of cost and end result.  The pain is pretty bad though.  You may want to get it done on a small spot before committing yourself to session after session of so much pain.  The first session was so painful that I don't know if I would have gone back--except that there was no turning back after I completed my first session.  I was somewhat patchy until I completed session three.  (It wasn't that noticable to other people, but it wasn't something that I wanted to live with.)

I still gotta believe that laser hair removal is not as painful as tweezers.  I would NEVER do that.

hey common,
I've a similar skin tone to yours... a laser clinic told me I've dark skin so not recommended plus there are risks like permanent marking, streaks and what not! scared the hell outta me, didn't wanna get something like that permanently on my head. Secondly they said there could be patches of hair left afterwards which would look odd. The feeling I got was these guys don't wanna do it so should look somewhere else. If it worked for you it should for me too. The pain sounds bad though!!

What I'm curious about is whether this thing is permanent..okay if u do get a number of treatments and target all the growth stages etc would you be rid of your hair forever...really FOREVER?

thanks
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on September 22, 2009, 04:50:35 PM
it is absolutely worth it; I wish I had done it at say 25 before I had transplants.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mike on September 22, 2009, 05:30:15 PM
Well the main place I have been able to find in my area will charge about $2000 or so which is a bummer but I haven looked that much, I am sure there are cheaper places. I figure I can get it started by December or so, I first need a new truck, then new laptop so that will be about a month and a half of wages but after that I should have enough. The more I think about it the more excited I get. I really want to get it done soon so I wont have to worry about gray hair. I cant wait to have a smooth head that wont stick to the blanket if I dont shave for a day and all the time and money saved.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on September 22, 2009, 05:52:58 PM
dont rush it Lophura.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kdog on September 23, 2009, 04:02:33 PM

you guys are crazy about tweezing your head. YIKES! I have already done 3 of the laser treatments and would never put myself through tweezing. That takes HOURS.... 1 treatment = 1 hr

hey K2, I live in dublin, Ireland and every laser centre I went to basically refused or laughed at the idea!! Still looking but while I look I'm gonna give this tweezing thing a go. Let's see how long it takes to grow the hair back and how time consuming/frequent maintenance tweezes will be...

I've heard Laser is no smooth ride too - I mean it hurts quit a bit? Also patchy hair growth you get after the first couple of treatments - how did you go about your day to day life without anyone noticing?
 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on September 23, 2009, 04:06:07 PM
wear a hat if u can.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kdog on September 23, 2009, 04:10:08 PM
wear a hat if u can.

difficult going around the office with a hat all day...People are gonna get curious  ???
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on September 23, 2009, 04:14:10 PM
how old are u man?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kdog on September 23, 2009, 04:15:16 PM
I have definitely not had any problems with marking, streaks, etc.  In fact, the dome looks very good.  I've now completed four treatments.  The hair that's left is very thin, more like peach fuzz.  I only shave every other day now, and I always have a clean-shaven look.

If you're at all dark-skinned, I recommend using a clinic that has a YAG laser.  There are plenty, so you shouldn't have a hard time finding one.  Also, I'm extra careful to use a strong sunscreen everyday for the week or two after each treatment.

As I've said before, laser hair removal is definitely worth it in terms of cost and end result.  The pain is pretty bad though.  You may want to get it done on a small spot before committing yourself to session after session of so much pain.  The first session was so painful that I don't know if I would have gone back--except that there was no turning back after I completed my first session.  I was somewhat patchy until I completed session three.  (It wasn't that noticable to other people, but it wasn't something that I wanted to live with.)

I still gotta believe that laser hair removal is not as painful as tweezers.  I would NEVER do that.

Thanks for that...finding it difficult to even get one laser centre to consider this but will keep an eye out for the type of laser...think Europe is much more conservative and backward with this sort of thing!  :Xo!

hey common,
I've a similar skin tone to yours... a laser clinic told me I've dark skin so not recommended plus there are risks like permanent marking, streaks and what not! scared the hell outta me, didn't wanna get something like that permanently on my head. Secondly they said there could be patches of hair left afterwards which would look odd. The feeling I got was these guys don't wanna do it so should look somewhere else. If it worked for you it should for me too. The pain sounds bad though!!

What I'm curious about is whether this thing is permanent..okay if u do get a number of treatments and target all the growth stages etc would you be rid of your hair forever...really FOREVER?

thanks
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kdog on September 23, 2009, 04:18:51 PM
how old are u man?

29
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on September 23, 2009, 04:19:51 PM
have it done on say a thursday and take off on a friday. my suggestion. with your shaped head; a complete job could work very well.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kdog on September 23, 2009, 04:32:54 PM
have it done on say a thursday and take off on a friday. my suggestion. with your shaped head; a complete job could work very well.

hmmm... but they told me the patchy growth will last for a year until 5/6 treatments & it would be noticable even after shaving as some spots will be completely hairless and others not so much..don't want it looking like a warzone  :( maybe these guys don't really know as have never done it before...kinda confused
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on September 24, 2009, 07:42:52 AM
Pretty much I shave my head daily. Yes if I did let it grow out for 2+ days I would look like a cheetah. But who cares? I personally don't care about what people say or think so it does not bother me. I have only had 3 treatments and I am on a deployment until december. Just gotta suck it up.

On a side note kdog.. I was in Dublin last year for your Cultural Festival. Got to go to Guinness, Jameson and some church there where they let you touch the hand of a dead crusader.. Pretty cool town. I wanna move to Ireland someday. But more the Dingle (West) side.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on September 25, 2009, 08:46:52 AM
kdog:  Here's a pic of my dome back when I'd only had three treatments.  Still kinda patchy.  Do you notice the patchiness?  No?  Didn't think so.

By the way, my avatar is back when Ï'd only had two treatments.

That clinic is getting you worked up over nothing.  They obviously don't know what they're talking about.  Personally, I think that I looked better after the first treatment than I did before starting laser hair removal.  

The key is to shave everyday until about treatment four.  After treatment four, I could go three or four days without shaving and still look pretty clean.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kdog on September 25, 2009, 09:45:23 AM
common, k2 thnx for that..obviously i believe u guys as uve done it. well, will keep lookin.

k2, dublin's pretty cool except for the weather. one gets pretty tired of the rain! u must have tasted the night life here though - temple bar..ring any bells? ;D  good craic!

Dingle, hmm nice part but small town..personally i'm a city kinda guy would get too lonely in the country.  :'(

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on September 29, 2009, 02:12:32 PM
so what are the pricing concensus on this procedure. seems like people are willing to pay 2k for it?

I personally would probably pay 1200 bucks max iono if i would want to pay 2k for it... is the lazer tech better for a 2k job? hmmm...

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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on September 29, 2009, 02:37:29 PM
so i filled out a RFI on this laser hair center here in Orange COunty Called south coast med spa. I just got off the phone with a guy and he told me that the procedure for 6 treatments will be $1325. Thats not too bad. They also have a 5 year touch-up rate @ 150.00

I may go in for my first treatment tomorrow..

Ill keep you guys posted.


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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on September 29, 2009, 04:08:04 PM
going rate; keep us up to date.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: xnewyawka on September 29, 2009, 05:35:19 PM
I can think of many better things to do with that kind of money, sorry guys I just can't see it.    :/O
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on October 01, 2009, 08:42:48 PM
I believe that I paid $750 for six treatments.  It seems like $150 is the going rate for one hour of hair removal, which is what you've got with the scalp.  The place I went had a "buy five get the sixth free deal" (hence the $750).

I can't imagine what the justification would be for charging $300 or more per session!

so i filled out a RFI on this laser hair center here in Orange COunty Called south coast med spa. I just got off the phone with a guy and he told me that the procedure for 6 treatments will be $1325. Thats not too bad. They also have a 5 year touch-up rate @ 150.00

I may go in for my first treatment tomorrow..

Ill keep you guys posted.


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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on October 02, 2009, 08:41:07 AM
when I went; everything was in 1/4 hr segments. Except the lst visit was 1 hr.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on October 02, 2009, 11:17:23 AM
Yea I ended up wussing out. The $ and not having ran it past anyone I trust was the kicker. I think I'm going to put away $150 a month until I can afford it. That way I will have thought about it and had budgeted for it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Hook'Em on October 02, 2009, 11:25:24 AM
when I went; everything was in 1/4 hr segments. Except the lst visit was 1 hr.

Didn't you only do the top Marty? Maybe that would explain the time difference?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on October 02, 2009, 11:28:08 AM
top sides n part of back.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on October 02, 2009, 11:56:20 AM
Marty why didn't you do the entire thing?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: TheSlyKang on October 25, 2009, 08:25:25 PM
Got an appt 10/29 to get my 1st treatment. $200 per session. Told it will take 5 or 6 sessions. Got about 5-10% gray so I'll still have to hit it once or twice a week but beats the crap outta shaving every day.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on October 28, 2009, 11:03:56 AM
Keep us posted Kang!

My reasons for doing this are mostly utilitarian. Long run it will be less money and less time dealing with stupid hair. I've never really liked or cared about hair until losing it, now I care even less! It's nice not having any hair.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: TheSlyKang on October 30, 2009, 10:19:33 PM
Ok had the 1st session yesterday. Took two hours and was much more painful than I had anticipated. :-[ My hair is dark and fairly thick on the sides and back (very thin on top). Apparently the darker and thicker, the more intense it is. Used a combination of Lidocaine gel and an ice pack to make it bearable. Glad to get that 1st treatment done so I can start seeing some results. Waiting to see some hair start falling out now in a week or two.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on October 31, 2009, 09:32:59 AM
Congrats on taking the first step, Kang!  Two hours sounds long.  Maybe your technician took lots of breaks because of the pain.  Gradually, the memory of the pain will fade away, but you'll see results in a couple of weeks.

Next time, try taking three or four Tylenols 30-40 mins before your session in addition to the gel and ice packs.  The Tylenols seem to help.

Welcome to the club!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: TheSlyKang on October 31, 2009, 12:12:19 PM
The tech had told me at the consult that she expected about two hours the first time. She drew off "sections" on my head and did one section at a time going first in one direction and then crossways across the same area.
So should I shave every day or two as I used to while waiting on the hair to fall out? Or should I let it grow and use a loufa(sp?) sponge in the shower to help it along on it's path down the drain?
And another question, what should I use to condition my head? Have used Lubriderm lotion and Head Lube before but both seem to leave it greasy. I want to shine without being greasy.
Thanks for your input and it's great to be SLY!!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on October 31, 2009, 03:49:17 PM
2 hrs sounds like a long time for this pain.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: TheSlyKang on November 01, 2009, 04:39:35 PM
It WAS a long time.  :'(  It ain't easy being SLY. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on November 02, 2009, 09:41:38 AM
I also took the plunge this weekend and have my first appointment for lhr on 11/14. I'll keep you guys updated on the process with pictures. There is a brand new laser technology out that lifts your skin up a bit to get the follicle closer so it is faster in addition to being more effective and less painful. My sessions are going to be about 15-20 mins each and numbing gel is not needed.

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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on November 02, 2009, 05:02:55 PM
I had too much gray. Thats why I didnt do it all.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on November 02, 2009, 11:46:59 PM
gotcha i figured that out.

I was pretty nervous a day ago about the decision but i find myself getting excited about it allot more. everytime the stubble comes back i think about how I will never have to deal with it again come next summer.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on November 03, 2009, 07:38:29 AM
So I dont come and check in for a few weeks and then I finally do and I find out that two of you SISSIES finally took the plunge........AWESOME... Welcome to the club. I should have my 4th treatment around Mid December......WOOO WHOOOO
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on November 03, 2009, 09:30:12 AM
After waiting a couple of days for the scalp to heal, I shaved and loofaed every day or so like before.  If you don't do that, it will look bad.  Also, I wouldn't worry about greasiness for a week or two.  Just use lots of sunscreen during the day and moisturize at night

The tech had told me at the consult that she expected about two hours the first time. She drew off "sections" on my head and did one section at a time going first in one direction and then crossways across the same area.
So should I shave every day or two as I used to while waiting on the hair to fall out? Or should I let it grow and use a loufa(sp?) sponge in the shower to help it along on it's path down the drain?
And another question, what should I use to condition my head? Have used Lubriderm lotion and Head Lube before but both seem to leave it greasy. I want to shine without being greasy.
Thanks for your input and it's great to be SLY!!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on November 09, 2009, 11:41:18 AM
So how are everyones lasered heads doing? My first session is 11/21!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: TheSlyKang on November 14, 2009, 09:33:16 AM
It's been about 3 weeks now since my first laser treatment. :'( Didn't see much difference till about 2 weeks. Then looked in the mirror one morning and realized how much gray hair I have. The darker hair that they claim they can get rid of has quit growing for the most part for now. I must admit I have gotten lazy as of late and have been shaving every 3 days or so. Well the morning that I noticed the dark hair gone and the gray needing a shave, I used HeadSlick and my Mach3 and got the closest shave EVER.  O0  I assume this is because once shaved I had much less whiskers and stuble. I then lotioned with Neutrogena Healthy Defense Sunblock lotion. My head stayed smooth ALL day for the first time ever. Normally I can feel the stuble growing back in after noon.

I am 40 yrs old and the gray will be here to stay. But if the laser treatment allows me to shave 2 or 3 times a week with results like this instead of 7 times a week with stuble by noon, it is definately worth it to me. Good luck with your treatment Petree. Let us know how it goes for you.   STAY SLY.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on November 19, 2009, 08:37:36 AM
I will! How long did your head stay smooth for kang??
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: TheSlyKang on November 19, 2009, 08:05:45 PM
If I shave in the morning it stays smooth all day. I can go the next day without shaving if I'm running late. It will have a little stuble (gray/white hair) that cant be seen but I can feel. When the dark hair starts growing again I'm supposed to call the tech and schedule my next appt. I've never gotten smoother shaves though.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mike on November 19, 2009, 08:43:49 PM
Darn y'all are tempting me. I still owe another $1000 on the truck but after that, laser hair removal, here I come! The only place that I found here in Spokane is the Louisville laser and they charge $2000 for lasering a whole scalp. So that would be 2 months wages (after I keep money for gas and phone). Today I was talking to a customer that had it done and he said it wasnt bad at all and well worth it.
 Hmmm, maybe I will just ask for cash for Christmas so I can get it sooner...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on November 20, 2009, 05:50:53 AM
do your research and get a few prices and a few opinions.....
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: DENNIS on November 20, 2009, 11:28:53 AM
I WILL TELL U MY STORY AS BRIEF AS I CAN BE...

I HAD MOSTLY A FULL HEAD OF HAIR WITH THE DREADED SEMI PLANE- RUNWAY ON THE TOP..   MY HAIR FROM WHAT I COULD TELL WAS MOSTLY ALL BROWN...

IM 44 DURING THE PROCEDURES...

I USED TO SHAVE MY HEAD TOTALLY FOR YEARS AT THAT POINT,, LIKE 10 OR SO..  AT LEAST 2-3 TIMES A WEEK,,  SINCE AFTER 1 DAY U WOULD SEE THE DARK OUTLINE, AND AFTER 2 DAYS DEF SOME HAIR AND COULD TELL FROM 1000 YARDS CLEARLY I WAS GOING BALD..

I HAD I THINK 7 OR 8 HAIR TREATMENTS..   AFTER THE FIRST 2 I HAD TIGER STRIPES ALL OVER,,  I WAS IN A PANIC....  I THEN READ THAT IT COULD BE THAT WAY FOR EVER... 

U SEE THE TRICK IS TO MAKE SURE U HAVE NO,,,, NO  ,, NO GRAY,  OR VERY VERY LITTLE,, BECOUSE THE LASER WILL NOT DESTROY ANY GRAY HAIR..ALSO,, ONCE U START, U NEED TO MAKE THE COMMIMENTMENT TO KEEP GOING ,, NO EXCUSES,,  OR YOUR FRIENDS WILL CALL U PATCHY..  BECOUSE U WILL BE STUCK WITH PATCHES OF HAIR GROWING....
THE TREATMENT IS BRUTAL..  I BOUGHT A BOXER MOUTH GUARD TO BITE ON DURING THE TREATMENT,,  JUST THINKING OF IT MAKES ME CRINGE.... I CAN STILL SMELL THE BURNING HAIR, AND THINK OF THE SHARP --HOT---ZAPS THAT SHE (THE DR) GAVE ME,,,,   HUNDREDS TO COVER MY WHOLE HEAD,,  EVERY TIME...

EACH TREATMENT WAS ABOUT 500 DOLLARS,,, YES AD THAT UP...I BELIEVE I COULD NOT BUY THAT MANY RAZERS IN MY LIFETIME..LOL...

ANYWAY,,  AFTER ALL THE TREATMENTS,,   I AM LEFT WITH THE STRAY GRAY HAIRS,,  NOT MANY,,   U SEE THEY WERE HIDING....  AND VERY VERY MINIMAL HAIR GROWTH AT ALL,,  AND NOW VERY VERY THIN,,,    I COULD GO AT LEAST 1-2 WEEKS WITHOUT SHAVING NOW, AND ONLY TOWARD THE END OF THE SECOND WEEK WILL I REALLY NOTICE THE GRAY FUZZZZZZZ...

I CAN FEEL STUBBLE FROM ABOUT 3-4 DAYS, BUT IS UNNOTICIBLE UNTIL AT LEAST A WEEK,,,   THE HAIR THAT GROWS IS ONLY GRAY, AND BLOND, OR WHITE,,  AND GROWS VERY SLOWLY....

I WOULD SAY THE TREATMENTS TOOK ABOUT 95% OF TOTAL HAIR,  WITH THE 5% BEING THE GRAY/BLONDE/WHITE.....   SOOOO YES THE TREATMENT WORKED!!!

MY SCHEDULE WAS ONCE A MONTH FOR 7-8 MONTHS....

IF U CHOOSE TO DO IT,,,  DO NOT STOP.....

U CAN NEVER RESTART THE TREATMENTS ONCE U STOP,,  U SEE THERE IS A NUMBER OF TIMES U CAN TREAT A SPOT THAT HAD HAIR GROWING THAT DOES NOT NOW,,  IF U GO BEYOND THAT THE LASER TREATMENT WILL START TO REGROW HAIR,,  THATS RIGHT,, REGROW HAIR...   SOOOO...   U NEED TO BE DELIGENT ABOUT YOUR APPOINTMENTS, AND START, GET DONE ,,  PAY,, AND BE DONE WITH IT..

I SEE PEOPLE WHO HAD 3 TREATMENTS AND STOP,,,  THEN A YEAR LATER RESTART TREATMENTS,,,  TO HAVE ALL THE HAIR THEY HAD LEFT BE STOPPED, BUT THE ORIGINAL HAIR THEY HAD STOPPED START TO REGROW..  SOOOO WHAT IS LEFT WAS    TIGER STRIPES OR PATCHES.....  AND STILL OUT THE MONEY...

SOOO I HAD GOOD ADVICE FROM THE DR, AND A GOOD TREATMENT, AND NOT MUCH GRAY AT ALL...   SOOO I HAD A GOOD TURNOUT...

MY OFFICIAL OPINION IS THE TREATMENT WILL NOT BE 100% FOR ANYONE... IT WILL GET RID OF MOST,,  90-95% ,,  U WILL STILL NEED TO SHAVE FROM TIME TO TIME...

I MUST SAY THOUGH,,,   MY SHAVING OF MY HEAD NOW IS LIKE,,,,, 30 SECONDS,,  SINCE IT IS SO THIN THAT I HAVE NO NEED TO USE ANY SHAVING CREAM...  AND ONE STROKE DOES IT ALL FOR THAT SPOT...

SOOO,, WOULD I DO IT AGAIN,,,,   YES     BUT I WOULD HAVE DONE IT 5 YEARS EARLIER,,,  I MIGHT HAVE HAD 99% WITH NO GRAY HAIRS...

CHIN UP,   OPEN THE WALLET, AND GET A BITE BLOCK,,, DONT LET THEM TILL U ITS MINIMAL PAIN,,, IT FREKKIN HURTS,,,,,  OF COURSE IM A BABY..LOL...  EVERYONES PAIN THRESHOLD IS DIFFERENT..

GOOD LUCK,,  PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW U DID, AND IF U DECIDED TO DO IT...

I WILL BE HAPPY TO SEND U PICTURES IF U WANT..

TALK TO U LATER
DENNIS
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on November 20, 2009, 03:19:04 PM
Dennis email me the photos and I'll post them up fir people interested in it!  I'm posting mine up once I start tomorrow! (If that ok with you) blue.petree.dish@gmail.com

i'm glad that I'm getting this done at 25 yrs old.

B
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on November 20, 2009, 04:39:52 PM
close-ups before and say 2 wks after each treatment could be helpful if not time consuming.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on November 21, 2009, 08:58:56 AM
For sure! I'll post a bunch of photos. I'm just about 20 minutes out from my first treatment. I'll post back with how it went.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on November 21, 2009, 12:34:27 PM
OK I'm back from my first treatment. They were right, the new laser didnt hurt. Unfortunately it cannot grip on parts of the head where the skin is very tight and their is curvature (crown) so i got to do it with the new laser and and older style laser. So far everyone's reports are pretty accurate. I guess I have a high pain tolerance so I didnt find the procedure too bad. There were definitely parts where she would run a line of zaps and after about 5 zaps I had sweaty hands and had to take a few seconds break. its just so sensitive on the back. My head is pretty tingly right now.

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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on November 21, 2009, 01:41:21 PM
figure the soreness to go down in 5-7 days; discoloration another 2-3 days and final results between 14-21 days.  Whn youre hair stops growing in certain areas, you'll know the results are there.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on November 22, 2009, 03:18:55 PM
yea. my head isnt too sore right now Marty. There are a few little spots where it feels sore but overall it isnt bad at all.

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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on November 22, 2009, 04:38:39 PM
Im a little surprised. I expected for u to have 5-7 days of soreness.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on November 22, 2009, 08:08:39 PM
The places where they used the old laser I can feel a bit more sore. I have a headache. Not sure if it's from the procedure cuz I'm feeling a bit under the weather. I think I'll like the results like you. My head looks great shaved and I love rockin it. It's distinctive.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on November 23, 2009, 09:08:17 AM
Well I used a norelco this morning the shave my head down. No extreme pain, a little soreness, i had 2 days since I last shaved it and it seems like it is growing slower. Now that may be because the laser zapped the hair but compared to 2 days normal growth it felt shorter and softer.. And it seems like my hairlines on my temples are less visable. This is all impressional right now. I'll give a clearer and more detailed update when I can.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on November 23, 2009, 11:00:16 AM
let it grow for 5 days and then shave. take it easy there.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on November 23, 2009, 11:57:36 PM
k ill slow it downz :P
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on November 24, 2009, 09:47:53 AM
Hey how long did they tell you guys to keep your head away from the sun for?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on November 24, 2009, 11:02:00 AM
4 weeks and watch it!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Ming the Merciless on November 24, 2009, 02:16:58 PM
Interesting.  I pass a sign at an emporium, "Laser Hair Removal: Half Off."  Well, of course, this prompts a certain amusement, visualizing hirsuteness only half-vanquished.

From what I read here, it's clearly too late for Ming.  My hair (only relatively minor MPB) is mostly(!) "gray," which means, of course, that a hair is either white (90+% of them) or still pumping out the melanin (<10% of them).  The plus, here, of course, is "no [real] problem with "shadow;" the minus is, of course, the need to shave the full dome on a regular and frequent schedule (3x/wk is my schedule) to look "Sly."

What I wish is that it was not too late to do something about the ear-hairs on my lower lobe and my tragus.  I do some (careful) razor work on these areas (the captive-bead piercing gets in the way on the left), and some scissors work, too, but I'd like to have these areas beyond concern, but that's no longer possible.  Oh, well.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: HAIRLESSHUEY on November 27, 2009, 12:47:50 AM
I have been shaving my head for 6 years. At twenty one years old I noticed my curly fro just wasnt as thick as it was and that I was starting to go bald. So I shaved that day and I havnt stopped. Most of the time I like to shave my head but there are those times where i cant get it smooth enough or my skin gets raw. I want my hair gone and Im looking for a place to do it in the los angeles area or in the San Gabriel valley. If anyone has info  let me know.

Funny thing is that years ago I called a few diff places that did the laser thing and they told me they wouldnt do it. It just wasnt a common practice. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on November 27, 2009, 07:21:38 AM
good pic and welcome. I think 1 or 2 peoople have had laser on here form the LA or ner LA area. Ask Petree Dish.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sly Red on November 27, 2009, 12:23:14 PM
Welcome to Sly Bald Guys, Gerrick.  Post up in the Introduction topic and let the other guys know you're here.

Looked at your profile . . . you look great for 127 years old!  ^-^

Red
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on November 27, 2009, 01:06:25 PM
He doesnt look a day over 126.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: HAIRLESSHUEY on November 27, 2009, 01:06:55 PM
T[hanks for the welcome guys. Its good to be in contact with some people that dont think im insane for doing this. To me its a no brainer. It would be nice to cut down on the shower time with an easier shave just after the first couple visits. Even though I am determined to go the whole path despite the pain.

lol 127.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on November 27, 2009, 01:24:12 PM
Ive done it. Write me personally at m45922@aol.com. A few others like jasonfiebe have done it too. Youre not crazy. 5 years ago people thought I was a loony.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: HAIRLESSHUEY on November 27, 2009, 01:43:15 PM
I know Im not crazy trust me man. My mom thinks im nuts though. The only thing that kinda sucks is that i gotta stay out of the sun. Im in California and the sun is no stranger. Im not really a hat wearer but I guess Ill start.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: HAIRLESSHUEY on November 27, 2009, 02:03:54 PM
I bought KALO hair inhibitor to apply to my scalp after the treatment. I have used if after my shave and have noticed a slight difference. I think it will be better to use it after some real damage has been done to my follicles
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: xnewyawka on November 28, 2009, 09:25:46 AM
The only thing that kinda sucks is that i gotta stay out of the sun. Im in California and the sun is no stranger. Im not really a hat wearer but I guess Ill start.

You won't have to stay out of the sun as long as you wear a good sunscreen bro. There are a few out there made just for the dome. Try Bald Guyz or HeadBlade products, both work well and are made for the scalp.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on November 29, 2009, 06:22:55 PM
Hey d00d if you are in the LA area the place I got my laser started (only have 1 session under my belt atm) is located in OC and LA. its called South Coast MedSpa. cost me 1200 for my head 6 sessions.

So far I haven't had any hair fall out (on Day 8) so I'm trusting Marty and the others' reports on this and holding tight for day 14 to roll on by. My hair growth has definitely slowed down after 1 session though. I shaved it today @ 8:45AM and its now 5:20PM and I still feel like i have no stubble. But it's that shadow I'm after! muahahaha.


B
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: HAIRLESSHUEY on November 30, 2009, 04:20:58 AM
im all about the refferals u know? so ill def go to were you did peetree. cant wait. ive been lookin at the people with alopecia totalis with envy. If you dont go with the package how much is each individual session over at med spa?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on November 30, 2009, 08:17:01 AM
I'm not 100 percent sure how much each session is, I'm guessing 2-300 bucks. I was able to talk em down a bit from what they wanted to 1200 so I just bought 6 session which is the norm. Personally I wouldn't mess around buying 1 session at a time with something like this. I would treat it like any other medical procedure and just get it done start to finish. I have a $300 off coupon you can have too that they gave me so you can save some $ too! We could meet up one of these days soon you can check out my head and the damage and I can give you the coupon. Let me know man. My email is blue.petree.dish@gmail.com
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Papa Don on November 30, 2009, 09:15:18 AM
Listening to you Guys makes me envious.  Of course, I too am to late in life, almost all white or gray hair.  Damn, where was this site in my younger years?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on December 01, 2009, 12:55:17 PM
Session 1, Day 10
I think I am starting to see results. The hair on my sides looks to have stop growing in some little patches. I think another 4 days + and I will see even larger amounts gone. I haven't shaved my head in 2 days and my hair is growing noticeably slower.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mike on December 01, 2009, 07:56:16 PM
And I am closer to getting enough money to be able to get it done myself. I sold some fish to the store today and put that money in a jar, some day I will have enough! Only another 3 paychecks left to pay on the truck then 4 1/2 for the lasering, so excited
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on December 02, 2009, 03:22:26 PM
get it done mike!!! You are gonna be stoked on it foR sureeeeee ;)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: HAIRLESSHUEY on December 02, 2009, 06:46:19 PM
Sounds good petree. ill get in touch with you buy email. THANKS for the hook up.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on December 03, 2009, 06:14:54 PM
10-4 buddy no prob.

Session 1 Day 12: My hair is definitely reacting with the typical hairless spots developing.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on December 08, 2009, 11:33:01 PM
Ok so I know you guys have been waiting for pictures...

Session 1: Day 17

This is where I am at as of 17 days after treatment 1. I haven't touched my hair in 3 days. You can see lots of "laser bites" on the back of my head. The top has a couple streaks of missed hair. other than that pretty standard. my head gets irritated if i don't shave it everyday so that's not from the treatment.

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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on December 09, 2009, 08:57:11 PM
Ok so I know you guys have been waiting for pictures...

Session 1: Day 17

This is where I am at as of 17 days after treatment 1. I haven't touched my hair in 3 days. You can see lots of "laser bites" on the back of my head. The top has a couple streaks of missed hair. other than that pretty standard. my head gets irritated if i don't shave it everyday so that's not from the treatment.

click the links so the forum does not shrink them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v421/bryanaes/photo10.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v421/bryanaes/photo11.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v421/bryanaes/photo12.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v421/bryanaes/photo13.jpg

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B

The top of your head looks a lot more hair-free than the back. Were you already going bald or was the laser more effective up there?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on December 10, 2009, 01:23:29 AM
I was pretty bald on the top there so that is not from the laser much.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BuzzKC on December 10, 2009, 10:38:38 AM
interesting pics.  you can definately see the zap marks, so it's working.  i had one session last april and didn't notice much of anything. have a spot up front and one in the crown area but other than that nothing happened. may give it another shot in the spring.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on December 10, 2009, 01:53:47 PM
If your hair starts falling out like mine your gonna want to finish the deal. I'm lucky in that I can wear hats for my job and I don't have to keep my hair super short everyday.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Stage on December 14, 2009, 10:32:24 AM
Hey guys,

just sitting in the waiting room, with the anesthetic creme on my head, ready for getting it done.

This is the first treatment, so I'm really curious. Btw. I'm 29, from Slovakia (somewhere in Europe ;-) ), working as a consultant. So the most important worry is the "cheetah look" during the transition period in front of our clients. It's gonna be fun.

Of course they haven't done scalp till now here, it's pretty unusual. They have also changed the legal disclaimer for me to really confirm that I'm aware I won't have any scalp hair anymore. This forum thread helped me to decide, so thank you all for sharing.

Will post some photos later.

Cheers
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Tyler on December 14, 2009, 12:29:52 PM
Hey guys,

just sitting in the waiting room, with the anesthetic creme on my head, ready for getting it done.

This is the first treatment, so I'm really curious. Btw. I'm 29, from Slovakia (somewhere in Europe ;-) ), working as a consultant. So the most important worry is the "cheetah look" during the transition period in front of our clients. It's gonna be fun.

Of course they haven't done scalp till now here, it's pretty unusual. They have also changed the legal disclaimer for me to really confirm that I'm aware I won't have any scalp hair anymore. This forum thread helped me to decide, so thank you all for sharing.

Will post some photos later.

Cheers
Welcome!  When you get done, post up an intro and share  your pics.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Stage on December 14, 2009, 01:18:53 PM
OK, it's done.

Most important fact - hurts like hell. I mean it. Hurts. Took roughly half an hour.

Fact #2 - got a red head. My wife said it looks like I have a red hat on. Curious about how it's gonna look in the morning. I'm having done a new ID card tomorrow morning with a new photo, so maybe they're gonna be surprised.

Gonna get some photos.

Tyler - thanks for welcome message.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Dome of Steele on December 14, 2009, 01:31:17 PM
Thanks for the update, keep us posted and good luck with recovering from the irritation!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on December 14, 2009, 03:49:53 PM
give it a week or so and the redness will diminish. allow 14-21 days to see full results.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: TheSlyKang on December 15, 2009, 08:27:04 PM
Had my second treatment done this evening ($150). Took an hour and fifteen minutes tonight. She goes over it pretty good though - both directions, front to back and side to side, to make sure all gets covered. Still hurt a good bit but not as bad as the first time. Still used the lidocaine numbing cream. But this time instead of an ice pack I just used a bag of ice. Head is throbbing a bit now but this Guinness Extra Stout is great therapy.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on December 16, 2009, 03:48:49 PM
Nice I'm itchin to get back for my second one too!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Stage on December 16, 2009, 04:33:38 PM
I'm still recovering from the first one (it's 2 days now). I was really embarrassed at work with my red head for two days. That's an important lesson - I will have next treatments done on Fridays and/or take some days off.

Unfortunately now I have lot of pustules (hope the translation is correct) in spite of using a prescribed cream to prevent irritation. These pustules prevent me from shaving, so on top of having a red hat, it's also patchy :-(
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on December 16, 2009, 04:47:00 PM
an hour and 15, wow. I never went past say 20 minutes in any session. You must have a high threshhold for pain!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: TheSlyKang on December 16, 2009, 07:45:06 PM
Petree - I was excited to get it going again. My hair had started coming back in a little and I miss that smooth dome I had about 2 wks after my first tx.
Stage - I guess everyone's head reacts differently. I scheduled my first tx on a Thursday and took the Friday off work just in case a had a bad reaction. Mine wasn't too bad though. My wife said my head appeared normal the following day but it felt like I had a bad sunburn. That lasted till Saturday and then it felt really bruised for a couple of days. So far, the 2nd tx doesn't seem to caused as much lingering discomfort.
Marty - I don't know about that pain threshold man. After applying the numbing cream, we put the ice on the area she is lasering next. Then she goes till I can't tolerate it and we put the ice back on it for around 20-30 seconds and go again. Looking forward to completing the tx cycles and being smooooooth (except for the 5% white/gray that I'll knock off a few times a week).
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on December 16, 2009, 09:12:56 PM
just a new growth cycle i guess.. how many weeks before you noticed the new growth cycle???
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: HAIRLESSHUEY on December 19, 2009, 01:49:01 PM
you guys are freaking me with that scalp pimple talk. petree my email is gerrickstephenson@yahoo.com
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: mangosink12572 on December 22, 2009, 08:55:42 AM
Looks great Petree - - -No more shaving - - I enjoy shaving though - -I have the time and I look forward to feeling my smooth dome after shaving it
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on December 28, 2009, 11:58:19 PM
Hey guys. My 4th treatment is about healed so ill be posting pics in the next day or two. I can actually go almost a whole day now and it stays smooth as a babies bottom.... I shaved it at 730am and did not feel stubble at all until about 8pm. Matter of fact is it 11pm right now and I would say that 70-80% of my head is stubble free.

I do not see how some of you had 20min sessions. I'm part of the hour club.. 1hr 5 min for my last session. When I used that numbing creme it actually hurt more. I knew it was working though because she had an icepack on my head and I could not feel the cold.

I still get those sort of head zits too while it is healing, It takes them about 10 days to fully go away and then I just have to sit and wait a few more weeks until I can start the cycle again. I believe my next treatment is Mid/Late January. I cannot wait until I am fully done.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on December 29, 2009, 06:56:02 AM
keep us posted! happy Holidays!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on December 30, 2009, 10:59:38 AM
yea post those pics k2s! so your down to no stubble in a day. thats good. for some reason mine is like that too. how about the shadow on the sides? have you gotten rid of it?

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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on January 02, 2010, 11:29:31 AM
Petree - I really do not notice a shadow anymore at all. Just the normal wrinkles of the head such as the widows peak and stuff like that. I still do shave it daily and like I said, I don't think the stubble has enough time to grow in thick enough to really cause a shadow.

I think there is still growth that is there but under the skin if you get what i'm saying???? The hair is growing but not long enough to feel on the scalp... I hope that eventually when all treatments are done, that my scalp will lighten up a bit more.

Pics.... 3 days of growth after letting it heal... 4 treatments so far



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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: HAIRLESSHUEY on January 16, 2010, 08:14:17 PM
that looks pretty bad ass just like it is k2
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Hook'Em on January 18, 2010, 02:34:36 PM
From the looks of your beard Ta2 i'm guessing your hair is totally white/grey. I understand that it is not possible to laser grey hair.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on January 18, 2010, 03:30:54 PM

I have considered hair removal and am told that lasering it would be very likely to destroy tattoos.

So the moral of the story is, laser your head before you get it tattooed?   ;) I'll have to remember that.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on January 20, 2010, 11:54:53 PM
laser is definitely not an option for you since your head is tattood and also from the white hairs. From what I read electrolysis requires the operator to specifically target EACH and every hair on your head so it will take a loooong time and I heard that it is painful. Laser hair removal is painful as well but the better option for hair removal than electrolysis in the literature Ive read online.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: calibaldguy on January 22, 2010, 07:05:53 AM
Hi petree im looking into south coast med spa as well. How long in between appointments can you schedule? It looks like the results are favorable after just one visit. I was looking into starting at the beginning of feb and hopefully have 5 treatments done before july because im an avid beach goer and surfer. Keep us all posted, I really want to get this done but im just skeptical on how the final result ends up. If I could shave my head every other day instead of every day or even twice a day i would consider it to be worth it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on January 23, 2010, 06:55:12 AM
Well dudes I just got my 5th treatment on Wed. I prepped myself this time my taking an 800mg Motrin about 45 min before my treatment. I then went in and sat with the NEW and IMPROVED numbing agent on my head for about 30 min. If you guys read my old posts, the old numbing agent actually seemed to make my treatment more painful. Then right when she was about to start I popped another 800mg motrin.

She also slowed down the laser a bit so the treatment still took around an hour but I only needed about 10-15 pauses. When I say pauses I mean about 5-10 sec each time. There were also areas of my head that I could hear the laser clicking but I did not feel anything at all.

My recommendation to anyone who decides to do it. Make sure the person doing the treatment only removes the numbing gel from the area they are about to work on. This seemed to be the factor this time. Last time she removed it all from my head and after removal it is only supposed to last 30-45 min. So those of us in the 60-75 min time frame..........screwed! Hopefully in about 10-12 days I'll have some wicked cool pics and since it is my 5th treatment I am hoping to see a drastic improvement.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on January 28, 2010, 09:29:06 PM
Petree - I really do not notice a shadow anymore at all. Just the normal wrinkles of the head such as the widows peak and stuff like that. I still do shave it daily and like I said, I don't think the stubble has enough time to grow in thick enough to really cause a shadow.

I think there is still growth that is there but under the skin if you get what i'm saying???? The hair is growing but not long enough to feel on the scalp... I hope that eventually when all treatments are done, that my scalp will lighten up a bit more.

Pics.... 3 days of growth after letting it heal... 4 treatments so far

I'm interested in this process, but those photos aren't striking me the right way.  This is the 4th treatment but it looks like you have bald spots surrounded with hair follicles that are just as dense as on my untreated head.  I would expect to see more after 4 procedures and all the time it takes toget to a 4th treatment.  I know hairs go dorment and cannot be killed, but shouldn't your remaining hair be a lot thinnner at this point?

It does seem like the top of your scalp is getting a lot balder because your avatar shows a dark shadow up there, but the sides.... I dunno.  I'm sure iit will get a lot betttwer with further treatments and will certainly look better than being untreated.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on January 28, 2010, 09:35:19 PM
A couple months ago I read an article that said women really do wrinkler easier than men, and the theory behind this is that the beard hair follicles structures and the extra blood supply it requires over hair-free skin thicken the skin and makes it more resistent to the wrinkling of age.  This has me wondering what will happen to you guys over the decades if you have laser hair removal.  Will it cause the skin to atrophy and become thinner?

I'd be curious to compare the scalps of old guy with decades of alopecia to old guys that shave their heads.   
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on January 31, 2010, 03:59:21 PM
Ill get back to you in 50 yrs :)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: petree dish on February 01, 2010, 03:35:43 PM
Some of you guys are thinking waaaaay too far into it. The laser targets melanin so noting happens to the skin, the skin would have no reason to change (not addressing the whole pigmentation that melanin brings and blood vessels). And decades are decades. Everybody has different skin and everybody's skin ages differently.

Regardless, here are a few photos from Session 2, Day 18.

This is with 3 days of growth on it. Razors are starting to last much longer which is nice.

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I decided to take some photos today with it shaved so you can see the diff, so we are ~22 days after treatment 2 and this is what it looks like shaved.

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and outside natural light, keep in mind my head hasn't seen any sun for months because of this so it is super white. a nice tan when i am through will be nice!

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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on February 04, 2010, 07:54:32 PM
To me, the results of the hair loss look like they are related to the job the technicans did and not how the skin responds to having a laser try and destroy follicles.   The hair loss in these procedures is never anything close to even, it always shows baldness in spots.  It looks like the technician uses a 3/4"diameter laser and you can see the pattern they used when tapping the scalp.  Why don't they apply the laser to the entire scalp?  Do they intentionally avoid hitting the same skin twice in one session? Even if that's a "yes" there's still a big gap between spots.  If they really do treat the entire scalp then I'd like to know why you'll get a circle with nearly 100% initial success while right next to it you have a 0% success, etc.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on February 10, 2010, 11:42:14 AM
I have to agree with Rusty.  There were no "spots" or similar artifacts after my treatments--even after treatment 1.  The hair was just a lot thinner with a few thicker patches.  No one guessed or would have guessed that I was undergoing a hair removal procedure.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on February 12, 2010, 07:02:52 PM
I have to agree with Rusty.  There were no "spots" or similar artifacts after my treatments--even after treatment 1.  The hair was just a lot thinner with a few thicker patches.  No one guessed or would have guessed that I was undergoing a hair removal procedure.

It looks to me like the tech skipped half the scalp.  Over the course of more treatments that's going to go away, but I'd be mad at spending the money for having the entire scalp treated and only getting half of what I paid for.

I must sound completely bipolar on this thread.  On the one hand I'd love to have this done, but all I seem to do is find reasons to complain about it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: smilto on February 15, 2010, 04:14:21 PM
I had my first zap feb. 12,how long will my scalp be rough and dry feeling?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: TheSlyKang on February 15, 2010, 07:09:51 PM
A friend of mine had similar spotty patterns on his head after his laser sessions. I think it has to do with the technique of the technician. My tech uses a pen to draw cross sections on my head (like tic tac toe patterns). She goes over each session front to back and then again side to side. So theoretically she lasers everything twice. She does this to ensure the laser gets everything. I used the licocaine numbing cream but can't tell that it helps any. In fact for my recent 3rd tx I didnt even use it. I just picked up a 10 lb. bag of ice on the way and used that during the numerous breaks I had to take during the hour of lasering. I paid $200 for my first tx and am paying $150 for the rest of the treatments. Hopefully 2 or 3 more will do it. Still shave daily to get the gray and smooth the dome. But it is much quicker and easier to shave with much less irritation. And it stays shiny and smooth as glass all day. Anyway, with spot patterns or not, as long as we are smooth and happy in the end, we can live with it.
Permanently Bald By Choice - PBBC
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: smilto on February 15, 2010, 07:18:32 PM
So kang what was the condition of your head after your first session?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: TheSlyKang on February 16, 2010, 07:29:25 PM
Tender like a bad sunburn for a day or two. Then felt bruised for a few days after that. Hair continued to grow like usual for about 10 or 12 days then I could tell that I had less hair coming in. Head wasnt nearly as sore after 2nd tx and not at all after 3rd tx.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: smilto on February 16, 2010, 07:46:58 PM
Thanks for the info bro, mine isn't sore anymore but every one of my folicles is a bump now have any of you had this?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on February 17, 2010, 10:38:18 PM
I had a bit of this.  Using a loofa under the water while I showered smoothed everything out.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on February 18, 2010, 11:50:40 AM
Hi guyz. Havent posted on the forum for a long time but just wanted to give an update on my current situation. I have been having laser hair removal done on my scalp for just over a year now. Apart from the indescribable pain, it has been going fairly well. The only problem i am having, which became evident about 2 or 3 sessions in, is that i have a few strange patches on my head that are not responding as well as the rest. They are very strange because they have nothing to do with the technique used, one of the patches is a perfect square on the back of my head about 3 inches high and wide. Because of these patches ive had 2 or 3 touch up sessions just to try and get rid of them. So about 6 weeks ago my head was virtually clear and all of the patches were gone. Then all of a sudden all of the patches, even the ones that hadn't been there for months started growing back at the same time. Not as dark or as thick as they once were. So today ive just officially had my 6th treatment (not including touch ups) and the technician told me that we should wait 12 weeks and basically whats left by then is all i am going to have, as he says after 6 sessions there is a chance that the hair will start to grow back. Now, knowing how hard these patches have been to try and get rid of, i am seriously worried that at the end of it all i am going to be left with a very patchy head, and the problem is that they arent the kind of patches where you can shave and not see them. Even when i shave against the grain they are very easy to see. hopefully at some point they just disappear.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on February 18, 2010, 12:00:23 PM
it takes quite a bit of time to get it right. thats why I advise people to give themslelves a real MPB look (via laser) at lst. touch-ups took me as much as 2-3 years to get it right. I applaud anyone who has the balls to do this.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on February 18, 2010, 12:44:37 PM
when you say touch ups took you as much as 2-3 years to get right, isnt there a danger that over that length of time the hair will start to grow back
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on February 18, 2010, 01:00:50 PM


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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: smilto on February 18, 2010, 06:28:11 PM
I had a bit of this.  Using a loofa under the water while I showered smoothed everything out.
Ill try it but it seems like that will irritate it worse.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: aarrggh on February 18, 2010, 06:56:17 PM
   YIKES :: Just old fashion shaving for me.............. O0
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on February 19, 2010, 06:12:59 PM
Hi everyone!

So, is there any true success story here?!? I haven't seen even one picture of a full job done.

I'm considering laser hair removal myself, but there are no quality success stories and/or pics...  :( Having said that, still this is the best place on the topic, including all of the Internet....

Currently, I shave my head every 2-3 days, but I can see my pattern is leading towards extended Norwood 7, which in no way I'm gonna "sport". ;) I gotta find a way to get rid of it somehow. Incredible how shadow can change the whole perspective of the head, I suppose most of us here would like to do LHR because of shadow. Clean shaved head without shadow is light-years ahead of the one with shadow, in terms of looks.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on February 19, 2010, 07:50:49 PM
Well I got my 6th treatment tomorrow so wish me luck. Seems like the back of my head is not responding as well as the top. So tomorrow i'm gonna try to suck up the pain and have her hit it hard back there.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on February 19, 2010, 08:39:37 PM
I'm not sure what setting others have had but obviously it will differ from machine to machine. But, the last treatment i just had was on setting 50. my previous treatment before that (5th) was 30 so it was a pretty big jump. The tech told me a while back that the max they go up to on the back is 60 (back of the body). Not to sound like a wuss. But that was easily the worst pain i have ever felt. It's surprising how emotionally draining it is. I think the laser i have is the Lumenis Light sheer. I was looking at their website just a couple of days ago and saw that they have released a new laser hair removal machine called the Light Sheer Duet. It basically uses a new technique that is virtually painless by using vacuum technology. They say that with the old laser (the normal Light Sheer) on a pain scale of 1-10, 10 being the worst pain you have ever felt, its about a 7 and that isn't talking about the scalp either which is a lot more sensitive than other parts of the body. But this new Light sheer Duet is about a 2 out of 10 on the pain scale. Now, I'm not sure if this will be able to be used on the scalp as the head of the laser is a lot larger and heads in general are pretty bony. But if it can be used on the head it will simply be amazing. Here is the link http://www.aesthetic.lumenis.com/wt/page/lightsheerduet

If anyone is thinking of getting laser hair removal i would definitely look into this.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: RyanJP on February 19, 2010, 09:19:33 PM
That's taking it to the extreme, I applaud you for your commitment but no thanks....I agree with ARGHHHHH %110
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on February 22, 2010, 05:56:04 AM
I'd consider myself a success story.  Never any polka dots or lines that you see in the other pics and never as bad a rash as Jez.  My head looked better after treatment one, and looks pretty awesome now after treatment seven.  I'm probably going to need another two or three treatments before I can stop shaving altogether.  However, I look nearly flawless for 2-3 days between shaves and there's no indication of a horseshoe.  I'm going 3-4 months between treatments now.  I'll try to put up some pics later.

Hi everyone!

So, is there any true success story here?!? I haven't seen even one picture of a full job done.

I'm considering laser hair removal myself, but there are no quality success stories and/or pics...  :( Having said that, still this is the best place on the topic, including all of the Internet....

Currently, I shave my head every 2-3 days, but I can see my pattern is leading towards extended Norwood 7, which in no way I'm gonna "sport". ;) I gotta find a way to get rid of it somehow. Incredible how shadow can change the whole perspective of the head, I suppose most of us here would like to do LHR because of shadow. Clean shaved head without shadow is light-years ahead of the one with shadow, in terms of looks.


Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: PopeyeRay on February 22, 2010, 07:18:27 AM
Ive thought about hair removal before, but after seeing some pics of scaring and all I think I'll pass. I already have enough scaring from when I was born, Im told its from forcepts, back then I guess they were different. So I have a couple spots on the top back of my head Ive never grew hair.  Even when I shave my head, you an see where the original bald spots are . So Im all set with scars, lol. I'll try to get some pics of mine to show ya all.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: PopeyeRay on February 22, 2010, 07:49:00 AM
Heres two pic of the spots I was telling you all about
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on February 22, 2010, 11:13:52 AM
I'd consider myself a success story.  Never any polka dots or lines that you see in the other pics and never as bad a rash as Jez.  My head looked better after treatment one, and looks pretty awesome now after treatment seven.  I'm probably going to need another two or three treatments before I can stop shaving altogether.  However, I look nearly flawless for 2-3 days between shaves and there's no indication of a horseshoe.  I'm going 3-4 months between treatments now.  I'll try to put up some pics later.


Hey bud, can you remember what Laser system they use for your treatments and setting ? Its strange with mine because even though i have very dark hair with fair skin and have the laser on quite a high setting, certain parts of my head, namely the back just isnt responding like it should.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on February 24, 2010, 05:57:44 AM
Because of my darker skin color, they used a YAG laser.  Setting was 18.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on February 24, 2010, 09:07:04 AM
I'd consider myself a success story.  Never any polka dots or lines that you see in the other pics and never as bad a rash as Jez.  My head looked better after treatment one, and looks pretty awesome now after treatment seven.  I'm probably going to need another two or three treatments before I can stop shaving altogether.  However, I look nearly flawless for 2-3 days between shaves and there's no indication of a horseshoe.  I'm going 3-4 months between treatments now.  I'll try to put up some pics later.

If you consider yourself a success story, I'd really like to see some of your photos. Hope you can manage it.  O0
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on February 24, 2010, 09:19:05 AM
Here are some pics 5 days after my last treatment, which was my 6th treatment. Hair hasnt really started to fall out on its own yet but alot of it is getting weaker. Just hope all the patches go at some point.

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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on February 25, 2010, 10:58:04 AM
I'm not sure what setting others have had but obviously it will differ from machine to machine. But, the last treatment i just had was on setting 50. my previous treatment before that (5th) was 30 so it was a pretty big jump. The tech told me a while back that the max they go up to on the back is 60 (back of the body). Not to sound like a wuss. But that was easily the worst pain i have ever felt. It's surprising how emotionally draining it is.

I hear ya.  I just went to my first appointment, and, even though I've always had a very sensitive scalp, I was shocked how painful it was.  The neck and lower part of the head where the hair was thinner was barely tolerable, but the dense upper part of the scalp literally felt like someone was cutting into my head.  It was on par with two of the worst pains I've felt (an injection into the bottom of my foot and having an enflamed cyst struck with force.)  The technician forced me to stop at that point and suggested I come again and do it with a very heavy application of the numbing cream they use.  I had used a 5% lidocaine ointment that I got from my sis who's a doc, but I didn't realize you needed to put such a thick layer on;  I didn't feel numb at all.  Honestly, if the numbing cream doesn't work next time, there's no way I could do six treatments of my whole scalp.

I'm not sure what setting others have had but obviously it will differ from machine to machine. But, the last treatment i just had was on setting 50. my previous treatment before that (5th) was 30 so it was a pretty big jump. The tech told me a while back that the max they go up to on the back is 60 (back of the body). Not to sound like a wuss. But that was easily the worst pain i have ever felt. It's surprising how emotionally draining it is. I think the laser i have is the Lumenis Light sheer. I was looking at their website just a couple of days ago and saw that they have released a new laser hair removal machine called the Light Sheer Duet. It basically uses a new technique that is virtually painless by using vacuum technology. They say that with the old laser (the normal Light Sheer) on a pain scale of 1-10, 10 being the worst pain you have ever felt, its about a 7 and that isn't talking about the scalp either which is a lot more sensitive than other parts of the body. But this new Light sheer Duet is about a 2 out of 10 on the pain scale. Now, I'm not sure if this will be able to be used on the scalp as the head of the laser is a lot larger and heads in general are pretty bony. But if it can be used on the head it will simply be amazing. Here is the link http://www.aesthetic.lumenis.com/wt/page/lightsheerduet

If anyone is thinking of getting laser hair removal i would definitely look into this.
Ooh, thanks for the tip.  I just went to their web site, and it says that the vacuum improves removal tremendously.  It distracts the pain receptors, restricts bloodflow to the area, which prevents some of the energy from being absorbed by the skin, and pulls the actual follicles closer to the energy source, allowing for deeper penetration.  The web site even allows you to search for doctors who use their machines and highlights the ones that have a Duet.  The closest one to me was about 35 miles away, so I called to get an estimate.  They weren't sure the duet head can be used on the scalp because of the size of the head, but they said they'd get back to me.  I'll let you know what they say. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on February 25, 2010, 11:39:18 PM
Ye The Duet sounds pretty amazing in terms of the pain relief. I did think the head size might be an issue though.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on February 26, 2010, 05:23:05 AM
I found a doctor with the Duet 6 miles from me... even though I have had 6 treatments I might have to try it for number 7 and 8...

 the only problem I see is with the size of the head also. How are they supposed to hit the tight areas such as right behind and on top of the ears?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on February 26, 2010, 09:08:00 AM
I talked to the nurse from the place with the Duet.  They said they've never done a scalp before and was worried that the attachment head size may be an issue.  In addition, the skin has to be loose enough that the vacuum gets suction.  In any case, she said the machine also has a standard attachment, so they can do what they can with the big attachment and do the rest with normal attachment.  So, even the worse case scenario should be less painful than a normal machine for at least some portions of your head.

This place also uses some custom made 25% lidocaine cream and is cheaper than the first place, so I've decided to switch over from my local dermatologist.   I'll be doing a test strip on the 4th and hopefully a full treatment on the 10th.  Thanks so much for the tip, Jez.  You may have saved me both money and pain.  I'll fill you guys in on how it goes.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: CraftyGuy on February 26, 2010, 09:23:46 AM
Think I'll stick to shaving, thanks...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on February 26, 2010, 10:08:50 AM
I'm 38 and have been shaving my head for almost 20 years now.  To be able to never have to shave again would be a dream come true, especially given that my beard is coarse and my skin is very sensitive.  Right now, I can't shave more than once every 3 days max without getting razor burn, which means I look scruffy more often than I look sly.   ^-^
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on February 26, 2010, 10:33:34 AM
Mazzle... how much did they quote you a price for?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on February 26, 2010, 10:46:34 AM
Mazzle... how much did they quote you a price for?
I'm not sure the price will translate since I'm doing my whole face too, basically everything from the neck up except my goutee.   The whole head covers multiple areas that they usually charge separately for, so some places can really gouge you if you want to face stuff too.  If I were just doing my scalp and back of the neck like most of folks here would, it would be way cheaper. 

Anyway, at the doctor with the Duet, it will be $320 a treatment for each of the first 4, $245 for each one after. 

(At the place I did a partial treatment with was $416 a treatment in a package of 6.  They listed the scalp part as $175 of it.  Another place I got a quote at wanted $815 a treatment for the whole head!)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: RyanJP on February 26, 2010, 11:48:16 AM
:) Happy Harry has this exactly right. Shaving makes it an affirmation and the ritual taps into something--I still don't understand--that makes baldness meaningful, not just an accident of genetics. Even though I have come to hate the little bits of stubble in the shaving cream, the act of shaving is, to me, some expression of cleansing. The time I most feel clean and rejuvenated is right after the last go-over for missed spots and washing off of  the remaining shaving cream. For about six hours after that, I feel emancipated; after that, the fuzz begins to grow again. Profesor Melon

I think the whole laser on the dome is just retarded, it's one thing if an individual has skin problems so severe that they can't shave but just to do it for aesthetics and ease of use is not worth it.  ( If I offend any retarded people, deal with it )
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on February 26, 2010, 03:16:29 PM
I think the whole laser on the dome is just retarded, it's one thing if an individual has skin problems so severe that they can't shave but just to do it for aesthetics and ease of use is not worth it.  ( If I offend any retarded people, deal with it )

It's well worth it, and the reason is simple - it's the goddamn SHADOW. Even though head is shaved, that shadow completely changes the perspective of the dome to the worse, especially with the white/light-skinned people. It looks almost as if the head is not shaven, and hair still on.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: RyanJP on February 26, 2010, 08:29:46 PM
That's great that it eliminates the Shadow, but so does getting some sun on the dome.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: The Noggin on February 27, 2010, 01:37:00 AM
??? Where's the problem in letting the guys do what they want without insulting them?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on February 27, 2010, 07:52:58 AM
That's great that it eliminates the Shadow, but so does getting some sun on the dome.

 :-\ Can you explain me this, please? How can getting some sun on the dome eliminate the shadow??
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on February 27, 2010, 08:25:17 AM
get to much sun on the dome and you have a RED shadow... how is that better?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on February 27, 2010, 12:16:56 PM
That's great that it eliminates the Shadow, but so does getting some sun on the dome.

 :-\ Can you explain me this, please? How can getting some sun on the dome eliminate the shadow??
It doesn't, nor does arguing with a troll who goes into threads calling people retarded achieve anything.  Just ignore him.  He can either him talk to himself or go away.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: RyanJP on February 27, 2010, 03:59:59 PM
That's great that it eliminates the Shadow, but so does getting some sun on the dome.

 :-\ Can you explain me this, please? How can getting some sun on the dome eliminate the shadow??
It doesn't, nor does arguing with a troll who goes into threads calling people retarded achieve anything.  Just ignore him.  He can either him talk to himself or go away.
Pay attention  to detail and read carefully, I didn't call anyone retarded nor did I insult anyone. I think the idea of running a laser on your scalp is overkill and just dumb. Myself when I get more sunlight/tan it eliminates any shadow I get let's say during the winter times, and for the guy calling  me a Troll ( with only 10 posts ) I'm sure there is a brick wall nearby where you can voice your opinion.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on February 27, 2010, 04:03:16 PM
Pay attention  to detail and read carefully, I didn't call anyone retarded nor did I insult anyone. I think the idea of running a laser on your scalp is overkill and just dumb. Myself when I get more sunlight/tan it eliminates any shadow I get let's say during the winter times, and for the guy calling  me a Troll ( with only 10 posts ) I'm sure there is a brick wall nearby where you can voice your opinion.

If that is your own pic as the avatar, I suspect that sun makes your shadow/contrast with bald skin even more pronounced...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: RyanJP on February 27, 2010, 07:34:32 PM
If that is your own pic as the avatar, I suspect that sun makes your shadow/contrast with bald skin even more pronounced...

You've been a member since June '09 and you haven't loaded up an avatar pic as well as having only five posts of which there all on this thread.....do yourself a favor and fall by the wayside.

And kokyman no my head's not a problem with the pronounced shadow/contrast, my head looks outstanding in the summer or when I get plenty of sun.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on February 28, 2010, 05:07:39 AM

You've been a member since June '09 and you haven't loaded up an avatar pic as well as having only five posts of which there all on this thread.....do yourself a favor and fall by the wayside.

And kokyman no my head's not a problem with the pronounced shadow/contrast, my head looks outstanding in the summer or when I get plenty of sun.

Sorry dude, nothing against you truly, but you don't look good at all like you think so. Pale skin, nazi-type head and face, and with that kind of skin certantly the shadow is much more exposed - be it light or dark hair. So, YOU do yourself a favor and listen to these guys here, you may learn something new and maybe even enhance your look one day... no hard feelings.  :@`
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: TheSlyKang on February 28, 2010, 08:04:50 AM
??? Where's the problem in letting the guys do what they want without insulting them?

I agree!   O0  If I'm not mistaken the intent of this group is to provide support for one another. There are a lot of different views represented here. I've been sly now for over 10yrs but still have thick dark hair in a horseshoe shape. I'm looking for low maintenance to keep the good looking sly look. I prefer the laser option but realize that others may not. I've offered information on my experience for those considering laser in order to support them as they make their decision. But that's all it is... my opinion and my experience. Remember guys.... "we all got em and they all stink". Lets continue to support one another in our different opinions and try to get along as one big happy SLY family.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on February 28, 2010, 09:45:21 AM
Everyone is entitles to their own opinion so why would we chew eachother out about what our decisions were? Personally I made the decision because I never want to buy razors again. A new pack of 12 Mach 3 Razors goes for about $35 now a days. Buying in bulk is definitely the way to go.

So the reason I chose to laser my head was because I have......had.....very thick dark black hair. So I was literally using a razor to shave my head and face 2 times without getting razor burn. I also shaved it daily to prevent shadow as much as possible.

When I did the math each razor was costing roughly $3....Going through roughly 175-180 razors a year... 15 packs of 12 a year....$530 a year on razors...I figure my treatments will end up costing me 3k total.....so after 6 years it fully pays for itself. It was a no brainer for me
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: RyanJP on February 28, 2010, 11:17:26 AM
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg442.imageshack.us%2Fimg442%2F7123%2F18022010055.jpg&hash=b6edc81dac1efc0727e6dbc895e1770d) (http://img442.imageshack.us/i/18022010055.jpg/)

I wouldn't subject myself to this personally but anyone that does and goes threw it my hat goes off to them, The Internet can be difficult and complicated environment so I could see reading what I posted as an insult as well as abrasive on the forum versus all of us having this discussion on the street but calling me a Troll or Pale Skin Nazi-Type is not in anyway better....So Slykang, K-2 or any of my friends on the board I'm apologizing.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on February 28, 2010, 04:14:01 PM
YIKES.... the back of my head never looks that bad.. but it definitely has some chaffing and bumps.. usually gone within 7-10 days... that one does look painful and almost like open sores.... poor guy
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on March 01, 2010, 12:10:04 AM
Ye that one did hurt :(, it went away after a couple of days though, looks normal again now. I was just curious, for anyone else that is having this done, what number of treatments are you going to go up to ? Because i would like as many as it takes to get to where i want to be, ive had 6 treatments so far. But now i'm a bit worried that if i have too many the hair will start to grow back.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on March 01, 2010, 05:14:44 AM
I also have had 6... I think im gonna use the Duet for 7 and 8 just to try it out.

From my understanding..... as long as you keep on track the hair will not grow back. It mainly happens when people take LONG periods of time off between sessions. Marty had like 12 sessions if I remember correctly to FULLY get it done... Most of those last ones are just tiny spots to make sure it is completely gone.

I would not worry about it growing back. Personally... I do not even see how it could grow back. That seems like malarky to me. You are frying your folicle and killing it. How can something regrow out of a dead folicle? Im not a rocket scientist but it does not make sense to me.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on March 01, 2010, 01:15:21 PM
Ye, it doesnt really make sense to me either. The tech did mention a term that basically means when the body realizes that its losing hair it can start to regrow it again. But its like you said, to me it doesnt make sense as the hair follicle is supposed to be getting destroyed.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on March 04, 2010, 09:36:56 PM
Yeah, that sounds like nonsense to me.  If you could make hair grow by having too many laser treatments, then I think you just came up with an alternative form of hair restoration, or at least an avenue of research.

Anyway, a few hours ago, I had my first Duet experience, so I thought you guys might like to hear about it.  It was only a consult, but I did get zapped about 8 times with it on various parts of my head to see if it would work.  She had to pull the surrounding skin a bit to get suction on certain parts, but all areas of my head worked and was WAY WAY WAY less painful than a standard laser treatment.  The first zap on my neck, I didn't even feel!  The more sensitive parts had a bit of pain, but I'd say that the worst zaps felt as bad as the least painful zaps on a standard machine.  (All of this was with no numbing cream.)  btw, the laser head is huge, about the size of an ipod nano, so they need far fewer zaps to cover an area.

As for the post-zap reaction, the areas are way less red and swollen than it was on the standard laser.  If it will remove hair just as well as the standard procedure, I'm going to be pretty stoked.  I have my first full treatment next Wednesday.   I'll let you know more then.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on March 04, 2010, 11:44:04 PM
Brilliant :), i may try it myself for my next few treatments, depending on whether or not the guy doing my hair removal will let me go past 6 treatments. Definitely good news though. Thanks for the update Mazz
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on March 05, 2010, 06:44:27 AM
kkep us informed please as to your results.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: tooyoung on March 06, 2010, 06:03:25 PM
Any updates w/pics on the guys doing it in this thread?

Had one session, recovery time was much longer than expected ~3 weeks and still have signs of where they zapped me (discoloration after shaving, but then fades). Used IPL it hurt but it's over before you know it (40 minutes). With a day plus of growth, you can see where the hair is not growing. One of the zaps got infected and a Derm gave me cream for it, I think the hair was too long in the area. Back of the head hurt the most. My head didn't look as bad as the post a few replies ago, but was very, very red.

I really want to continue, but I don't know how I can swing it with work.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: K2 on March 06, 2010, 09:58:59 PM
I really want to continue, but I don't know how I can swing it with work.

I don't think you really have a choice now dude... Already did it once so you're gonna start looking like a Cheetah if it ever grows out.. Once you make the commitment you are pretty much stuck finishing unless you want to have a weird looking regrowth pattern. Good Luck though.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: tooyoung on March 06, 2010, 11:32:56 PM
Never growing it out... Can't tell with it shaved. Still planning on doing the treatments, just got figure out how
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on March 09, 2010, 08:23:25 AM
Your symptoms sound very unusual.  Perhaps you should try another provider and/or a different laser.  There are a lot of laser hair removal places that don't seem to know what they're doing.  I think that some of the scary pictures on this board come from poorly performed procedures.

(Things are good with me.  I'd like to upload some pics, but can't even get the site to update my avatar.  I'm not computer illiterate, so I don't know what the problem is...)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on March 09, 2010, 08:31:01 AM
Your symptoms sound very unusual.  Perhaps you should try another provider and/or a different laser.  There are a lot of laser hair removal places that don't seem to know what they're doing.  I think that some of the scary pictures on this board come from poorly performed procedures.

(Things are good with me.  I'd like to upload some pics, but can't even get the site to update my avatar.  I'm not computer illiterate, so I don't know what the problem is...)

Common, put them somewhere else, and then link to it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: tooyoung on March 09, 2010, 08:54:04 PM
Your symptoms sound very unusual.  Perhaps you should try another provider and/or a different laser.  There are a lot of laser hair removal places that don't seem to know what they're doing.  I think that some of the scary pictures on this board come from poorly performed procedures.

(Things are good with me.  I'd like to upload some pics, but can't even get the site to update my avatar.  I'm not computer illiterate, so I don't know what the problem is...)

Common, put them somewhere else, and then link to it.

You didn't recieve IPL though, right? You (or someone else) mentioned hair being removed evenly (and needing a different laser because of dark skin). It seems that the procedure (or method) for IPL is the same across the board in terms of the "checkered board" or spotty lasering.

I would love to see some pics
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on March 09, 2010, 10:11:53 PM
I think the checkerboard is more a result of operator skill and patience than anything inherent in the laser.  I read somewhere that some experienced operators actually draw a grid on the person's head to make sure they cover all the spots evenly.  My take is that operator skill varies GREATLY.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on March 10, 2010, 02:37:28 PM
I just took these with my (crappy) cell phone.  I haven't shaved for two days.

By the way, thanks to http://jpeg-optimizer.com/ for making these shots small enough to upload here.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on March 10, 2010, 03:03:12 PM
Looks smooth and clean, Common.  And, that's after 2 days?  Very nice.

I'm so pissed right now.  I missed my first appointment today because my car wouldn't start thanks to some fault in the alarm system.  Now I have to wait three more weeks.  I even had my head all numbed up in back and ready to go.  Grrr... :Xo!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on March 10, 2010, 03:39:14 PM
I just took these with my (crappy) cell phone.  I haven't shaved for two days.

By the way, thanks to http://jpeg-optimizer.com/ for making these shots small enough to upload here.

Thanx for the pics. Looks pretty good. How many treatments do you plan to execute more?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on March 11, 2010, 10:14:59 AM
I plan to do another one or two treatments until all of the hair is gone.  There are no patches anymore, but a few random hairs here and there.  It looks nice now, shaves VERY easily, and only requires occasional shaving.  I'm pleased with the results to date.  From my standpoint, the only reason not to do this treatment is the pain.

I'm curious to try the Duet treatment.  Maybe I'll do that next time...

I just took these with my (crappy) cell phone.  I haven't shaved for two days.

By the way, thanks to http://jpeg-optimizer.com/ for making these shots small enough to upload here.

Thanx for the pics. Looks pretty good. How many treatments do you plan to execute more?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on March 11, 2010, 11:09:41 AM
Is IPL just as painful as the standard laser treatment?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on March 11, 2010, 11:26:00 AM
good work Common! I can see la difference.......
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on March 11, 2010, 01:49:32 PM
Hi Common, sorry if I've missed it an early post but how many treatments have you had so far ? looks great btw :)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BALDANDRE on March 11, 2010, 06:33:28 PM
Common...that bald head is sweet...totally shadow free...looks awesome on you ..the treatments were worth it..would love to see a hi res of it too!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: old_hippie on March 11, 2010, 08:31:20 PM
seeing how good the results are on the guys doing the laser  hair
removal I wish there was someplace here to have it done.
I'v looked but no luck in finding a place to get it done.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on March 11, 2010, 09:33:54 PM
Thanks for the kind words, gents.  I've done seven treatments.  All of the treatments were painful.  The first was the worst.

It was totally worth it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on March 11, 2010, 11:46:31 PM
It's awesome seeing such a successful case.

I have a question for anyone who's had a particularly brutal laser session.   What's the longest it took for the redness/irritation/discoloring to go down?  It's been 3 weeks since my aborted session, and it still looks terrible.  It doesn't hurt, though.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on March 12, 2010, 05:26:36 AM
For me its usually about 7-14 days then it looks normal. I do get itchy bumps (spots) as well sometimes that last a few weeks. But are not visible and do not itch unless i rub my head or aggrevate it in sme way.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on March 12, 2010, 06:29:39 AM
2 wks super max.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: aarrggh on March 12, 2010, 07:41:02 PM
    Yeah :: Common..You could be the poster child for Laser Hair Removal.......
   Looks Excellent  (avatar) .................          O0
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on March 14, 2010, 09:43:25 AM
I was just curious, but for the people who are having really good results from the treatments, like yourself common. What kind of technique do they use for your sessions, because mine seem to go the way of, the tech will keep increasing the strength of the laser for every new session but will only really go over the area once. But i was thinking that maybe it is better to have a slightly lower setting and go over the areas multiple times. ?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on March 15, 2010, 01:48:28 PM
It's hard for me to speak too much about technique, since I don't watch the nurse during the procedure.  My sense is that to get complete coverage, the nurse overlaps the dots from each laser impact.  Beyond that, I don't think that she intentionally goes over the area more than once.  She lasers me with a YAG laser on setting 18.

When she finishes there is no hair/stubble on my head, no burns, and no scratches.  Everything hurts, but looks good.  Then she covers everything with a thick layer of aloe gel.

On a side note, I'm going in to try out a Duet laser tomorrow.  I'm a little worried about switching providers/lasers after hearing some of the horror stories here, but (a) I'd love to finish my treatments with less pain and (b) the Duet provider offered to match the price of my current treatment.  I'll report back on how things go.

I was just curious, but for the people who are having really good results from the treatments, like yourself common. What kind of technique do they use for your sessions, because mine seem to go the way of, the tech will keep increasing the strength of the laser for every new session but will only really go over the area once. But i was thinking that maybe it is better to have a slightly lower setting and go over the areas multiple times. ?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on March 16, 2010, 03:55:37 PM
I went in today to get a test patch done with a new laser called the Duet.  The Duet uses a suction/vacuum head to reduce the pain and cover a much larger area with each application.

I was very impressed.  There was no pain.  Just a strong suction cup sensation and a brief moment of heat.  The Duet's head is almost the size of my palm, so I would expect any session to take half the time or less of a traditional laser treatment.  There is the challenge of getting the head to "attach" to different parts of the head.  The therapist and I are going to play around with it next week, but that might be a problem.  Until then, I have to say that the Duet was a big, big improvement.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on March 16, 2010, 04:46:59 PM
Yeah, that was my reaction too, Common.  I did test spots with the Duet all over my head, neck and face, and the pain was very manageable even without numbing cream.  By the way, on my head, there was no spot she couldn't do if she pulled the skin around it together.

I got a question for you, though.  In the spots that she tested for you, was the redness in the form of 3 lines like the picture I attached of one of my duet spots?  My technician said that the Duet should destroy all the hairs in the area that is vacuumed, but it seems to have only irritated the areas immediately below each of the 3 lasers in the Duet head.  The hairs in between the three lines seem to be growing normally.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on March 16, 2010, 05:14:15 PM
Chromed for 20 years? jeez...u look under 30.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on March 16, 2010, 05:21:45 PM
I wish.   Late 30's.   :XX
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on March 18, 2010, 12:20:58 PM
I had so little hair before Tuesday's pre-treatment that it's impossible to notice a real difference.  Certainly, I don't see a three line pattern.

Yeah, that was my reaction too, Common.  I did test spots with the Duet all over my head, neck and face, and the pain was very manageable even without numbing cream.  By the way, on my head, there was no spot she couldn't do if she pulled the skin around it together.

I got a question for you, though.  In the spots that she tested for you, was the redness in the form of 3 lines like the picture I attached of one of my duet spots?  My technician said that the Duet should destroy all the hairs in the area that is vacuumed, but it seems to have only irritated the areas immediately below each of the 3 lasers in the Duet head.  The hairs in between the three lines seem to be growing normally.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on March 18, 2010, 01:19:41 PM
I had so little hair before Tuesday's pre-treatment that it's impossible to notice a real difference.  Certainly, I don't see a three line pattern.

Yeah, I suppose the irritation is a result of the hairs being burnt, so if you don't have a lot of hair left or it's distributed irregularly, you would not see the pattern.  Thanks for answering, though.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on March 29, 2010, 03:48:08 PM
So, I had my first full duet treatment today.  Since it was my first real laser treatment and I still have a full head of hair, I think my reaction is probably very different than Common's reaction, who was already near bald. 

Anyway, it was definitely less painful than a standard laser but not painless.  On areas where the hair is thin or less dense, you really don't feel much at all.  For example, on my neck, I could barely feel it at all.  But on areas with dense coarse hair, there is pain.  I'd say it's about 60% the pain of a standard laser.  It was definitely tolerable.  It didn't cause me to flinch at all, and I held a conversation with the cute nurse doing it the whole time.  It was so smooth, I no longer feel any apprehension about doing it multiple times.  Keep in mind that it also requires far fewer zaps to get it done.  She was able to finish my admittedly large skull in an hour.  The only areas she had trouble getting suction on was the sides of my head.  I had to help her by pushing the skin together as she zapped it.

I had her take pictures of my head immediately before and after the procedure.  I'll wait a while to see what kind of growth I get, and then post all three sets for you guys to see.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on March 30, 2010, 10:40:18 AM
Contgratulations, Mazzle!

Pls keep us updated!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on March 30, 2010, 12:23:20 PM
seeing how good the results are on the guys doing the laser  hair
removal I wish there was someplace here to have it done.
I'v looked but no luck in finding a place to get it done.
I'd find it hard to believe you couldn't find someone, especially since most dermatologists and plastic surgeons do it.  There are literally dozens in my area. 

Just doing a quick search, I found a bunch of listings:

Google Maps Listings of Laser Hair Removal in Marshfield, WI (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=laser+hair+removal+marshfield+wi&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=45.467317,90.527344&ie=UTF8&hq=laser+hair+removal&hnear=Marshfield,+WI&filter=0&update=1&ll=44.6667,-90.203247&spn=1.234543,2.828979&t=h&z=9)
4LaserHairRemoval Listings for Wisconsin (http://www.4laserhairremoval.com/directory/wisconsin-laser-hair-removal/)

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: baldfireguy25 on March 30, 2010, 01:03:03 PM
this is my first post but I am not new to the site.  this Blog gave the education and courage to go start my lazer treatments.  My first treatment was today!!  Let me tell you that it HURT LIKE HELL!!!  Nothing like the test spots they did a few weeks ago.  These are before pics and I will give you progress pics as I go!!  She said maybe 4 to 5 treatments???  I have dark hair so the pigment is perfect she said!!  Anyway...  Thanks to everyone who posted for all the great information!!!(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F%5Bimg%5D%5Bimg%5D&hash=9f67b4faa7e042922880246178bc0cdb)[/img][/img]
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: baldfireguy25 on March 30, 2010, 01:12:05 PM
It's not letting me attach the pics.  It says the file is to large??  I will work on it!!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on April 03, 2010, 02:24:03 AM
It's not letting me attach the pics.  It says the file is to large??  I will work on it!!

You can put the pics somewhere else (like flickr.com, or www.skins.be), and then share the link.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: B.Dangerous on April 04, 2010, 07:17:40 PM
Been a long while for me on here.  I had one treatment of laser hair removal almost a year ago.  Paid for 3 sessions up front.  Stopped initially because I wanted to get through summer before I went back and had the messed up head for a month.  Eventually I started noticing a scar here, a possible scar there.  Just noticing that my scalp is not exactly as perfect as I pictured.  Mostly dings from shaving my head all these years.  Almost regret not going for a hair transplant at this point.  It's hard to keep shaving because I have sensetive skin.  I'm planning on going back and seeing if my doctor, who is a skin doctor, can remove the couple small scars on my head and than consider continuing with the laser removal.  I think a transplant is out of the question now, since 20% of my hair is removed.  It would take a miracle worker, and I don't know that I'm gonna trust in a miracle.  I got 5 year old pics where my head was shaved and it was close to flawless, but shaving has put a couple dings in it.  Oh well, hope I figure out a plan and all ends well.  Just shaving it down with trimmers for now.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on April 11, 2010, 07:28:39 PM
Let me get this straight:  you're in the middle of getting laser hair removal treatments and are now comptemplating getting a hair transplant??  Seriously??  ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on April 13, 2010, 11:31:19 PM
Let me get this straight:  you're in the middle of getting laser hair removal treatments and are now comptemplating getting a hair transplant??  Seriously??  ??? ??? ??? ???

Maybe some people really shouldn't be allowed to make life changing decisions on their own!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on April 14, 2010, 09:50:38 AM
Come on guys, that's not what he said.  He said that he once considered a transplant, wished he could consider it again but knows he can't since he already started laser treatment a year ago.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on April 17, 2010, 01:25:14 AM
Hey guyz, just a quick question to the people doing this that are on their 6th + session(s)

If you dont shave how long does it take before you start seeing growth again ? does it come back fuzzy in the same color as your hair, or does it come back white ?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on April 17, 2010, 12:55:52 PM
I hate to say this guys, but now that I can see the result of my first full session, I'm starting to think the Duet is not a very good tool for chrome doming the scalp.  It's just way too hard to get proper coverage of your whole head with it.   There seems to be two problems.  The first is that the tool really doesn't have complete mobility on the head.  While my nurse was able to zap every general area, it was awkward and took some skin tugging in certain parts.  It had to be just right in certain areas to get suction.  To get full coverage, you really have to be able to move it a few centimeters and still get suction.  Second, while one zap does cover a large area, it doesn't cover the area fully.  Like I said in a previous post, it has three lasers that creates three zapped stripes of skin.  The areas between the stripes don't get hit with the laser.  So to get all of those areas, you need to be able to move it a few centimeters and still get suction or aim it properly the next session to get those in-between areas.  The first item is very hard to do on the scalp (see issue #1) and the second is very hard to do in general without occasionally mis-aiming and accidentally zapping the same area twice.  In short, I'd say she covered about 40% of my head maximum in that first session.

To make things even worse, the results I've seen on the areas treated with the Duet have not been as good as the one with the standard laser head.  The areas done with a standard laser in my first aborted session have had almost zero hair growth, even after nearly two months.  Sure, it hurt like hell and took about six weeks for the discoloration to fully go away, but I must admit the result was almost perfect, complete hair removal in one session.  Even the edges the second nurse did with a standard head had almost no hair growth.  The areas that were zapped with the Duet seemed to be hit or miss.  Some parts show good hair loss while some show almost none.

To be fair, this last issue may be a laser intensity setting issue.  The Duet's maximum setting is 12, while a standard laser usually goes up to 60.  I do think they use the same units, but the Duet needs less energy because the suction usually brings the follicles closer to the surface of the skin.  Perhaps the fact that there's not much skin on the scalp means that the Duet is not getting the follicles close enough to get effective results from its low energy scheme.  Maybe she'd need to up the setting to the max for the tight areas of the scalp.  If so, it may not be all that less painful than the standard laser.  That's just a guess, though.

I've attached a picture to show you what I mean about the striping pattern.  The first is immediately after the procedue, while the second is a few days later.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: smilto on April 17, 2010, 06:02:41 PM
had my second treatment yesterday with the standard laser,didnt hurt as bad as first time but still hurt like hell!!!redness is almost completly gone already.i want to thank all you guys for the info you all put on here.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on April 17, 2010, 08:13:45 PM
good work Mazzzle!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on April 19, 2010, 01:35:50 PM
I'm leaning toward Mazzle on this one.  I didn't get any stripes from my Duet treatment, but after four weeks I see no impact on hair growth.  None.  It's as if I didn't go in for a treatment at all.  By this time, after a standard treatment, I would be almost totally sly.

I really, really wish that it had worked because there's so much less pain.  Unfortunately, I think that I'll be going back to the traditional (non-Duet laser) approach next week.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on April 22, 2010, 08:57:25 AM
I'm leaning toward Mazzle on this one.  I didn't get any stripes from my Duet treatment, but after four weeks I see no impact on hair growth.  None.  It's as if I didn't go in for a treatment at all.  By this time, after a standard treatment, I would be almost totally sly.

I really, really wish that it had worked because there's so much less pain.  Unfortunately, I think that I'll be going back to the traditional (non-Duet laser) approach next week.

Common, what would you estimate to be % of the hair remaining on your scalp? I thought you're nearly done with it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on April 22, 2010, 09:53:00 PM
Hard to say how much hair is left.  5-10% perhaps.  It doesn't take much to create a messy look.  After a laser treatment there's usually NO hair growth (just fuzz) for 6-8 weeks.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on April 23, 2010, 01:15:08 AM
Hard to say how much hair is left.  5-10% perhaps.  It doesn't take much to create a messy look.  After a laser treatment there's usually NO hair growth (just fuzz) for 6-8 weeks.

I see... and that 5-10%, are they terminal hairs (thick), or weak hairs?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BuzzKC on April 23, 2010, 09:42:35 AM
I had one laser treatment a little over a year ago. I had red skin for a couple of days but other than that nothing. I noticed no results maybe a small stripe at the crown, but even that could just be my imagination. I'll stick with shaving until you guys get this all worked out! 

Curious.  It looks like most of you go in for treatments with a shaved head.  The place I went to told me to let it grow for at least three days. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on April 23, 2010, 09:59:15 AM
Curious.  It looks like most of you go in for treatments with a shaved head.  The place I went to told me to let it grow for at least three days. 

Something sounds wonky there.  When I went in there, she had to lay the laser right on the skin.  Even completely shaved, the hair below the skin fizzled and burned up in certain spots.  I can't imagine what it would do to three days of hair growth.  Hell, my nurse even re-shaved certain parts that I had shaved a few hours previous. 

By the way, look at some laser hair removal FAQs.  Every one that I've read said to shave beforehand.  Remember that the goal is to kill the follicle.  Extra hair can absorb the energy that could potentially go to kill the follicle.  My guess is that you had a person doing the removal who didn't really know what they're doing.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on April 23, 2010, 10:01:40 AM
Hard to say how much hair is left.  5-10% perhaps.  It doesn't take much to create a messy look.  After a laser treatment there's usually NO hair growth (just fuzz) for 6-8 weeks.
Have you tried to let that hair grow out some and take a picture, so that she can see where to focus her zapping efforts?  That's what my nurse asked me to do. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kapt_krunch on April 28, 2010, 03:56:06 PM
Hello everyone.  I read this entire thread yesterday.  Very valuable information here.  I had a consult today and all went very well.  According to the doctor, I will need YAG treatment like Common.  Sad thing was that their YAG laser was down and I couldn't get the complimentary treatment.  They quoted me $233 a treatment for 6 treatments.  Hopefully I can start next month once the laser is repaired. 

I've wanted laser hair removal for quite some time.  My wife likes the stubble and likes my growth at 4 or 5 days but I am ready to be smooth as a babies butt.  Talked her into letting me do it about a month ago and found this wonderful place of like minded individuals a few days ago.  I love the results of all of you pioneers.  I will be adding mine to the mix as well.  A big THANKS to all of you who have paved the way.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on April 28, 2010, 04:58:06 PM
get two other quotes. good luck and welcome!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: D.A.L.U.I. on April 28, 2010, 05:12:04 PM
Suggest you look at Jason's experience--maybe PM him and get another view.

http://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/index.php?topic=12412.msg205044#msg205044
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on April 28, 2010, 06:13:20 PM
I went and got my second treatment today.  I decided to use the standard laser head for the whole thing instead of the Duet.  All I have to say is...OUCH!  Even with their 25% numbing cream, it hurt like a bitch.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Magoo on April 28, 2010, 09:21:31 PM
It's your head  k-k but I would stick with a razor at least for 6 months make sure this is what you want. once you have it lasered off you can't change your mined. Whats the rush ?? :x!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on April 29, 2010, 02:03:16 AM
Suggest you look at Jason's experience--maybe PM him and get another view.

http://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/index.php?topic=12412.msg205044#msg205044

He could've at least said how many treatments did he got, and which type of laser was used.

BTW, I've never read in this thread, too, that someone has managed to completely remove all of the hair - it seems that the path is to minimise it as much as you can. If I understood correctly, neither Common or Marty22 don't have 100% removed hair, and they say they are content with results and they would do it again.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on April 29, 2010, 11:39:45 PM
That's true.  I'm definitely content with where I'm at, even as I continue treatments to get to 100% bald.

One big difference between me and Jason is that my post-laser head isn't patchy.  Even when the hair is coming back and I don't shave, it's not patchy.  It's a (much) thinner version of my horseshoe, but it's uniform.  In fact, since the thinner version of the horseshoe is close to the thinner hair on the top of my head, it gives the illusion that I have a full head of hair that I recently shaved.  People have started asking me again, "Why don't you just let it grow out?" and "Why do you shave your head?"

When I see some of the patchy jobs on this forum I think there's been an operator error from the technician.  A lot of these laser technicians probably just aren't that familiar with laser hair removal on the head.  I noticed that my technician looks carefully at my scalp with a light and then lasers any sign of hair.  Even if she has to overlap an earlier zap area.  Then she runs her hand over my scalp to see (by touch) if she missed anything and again lasers any sign of hair.  It's painful and a bit tedious, but I'm glad that she's so thorough.

Again, the only reasons not to do laser hair removal are (a) if you're not sure that you want to be bald, and (b) the pain.

Suggest you look at Jason's experience--maybe PM him and get another view.

http://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/index.php?topic=12412.msg205044#msg205044

He could've at least said how many treatments did he got, and which type of laser was used.

BTW, I've never read in this thread, too, that someone has managed to completely remove all of the hair - it seems that the path is to minimise it as much as you can. If I understood correctly, neither Common or Marty22 don't have 100% removed hair, and they say they are content with results and they would do it again.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on April 30, 2010, 05:35:10 AM
just go for it! Common: keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: bhead1986 on May 01, 2010, 12:32:36 AM
That's true.  I'm definitely content with where I'm at, even as I continue treatments to get to 100% bald.

One big difference between me and Jason is that my post-laser head isn't patchy.  Even when the hair is coming back and I don't shave, it's not patchy.  It's a (much) thinner version of my horseshoe, but it's uniform.  In fact, since the thinner version of the horseshoe is close to the thinner hair on the top of my head, it gives the illusion that I have a full head of hair that I recently shaved.  People have started asking me again, "Why don't you just let it grow out?" and "Why do you shave your head?"

When I see some of the patchy jobs on this forum I think there's been an operator error from the technician.  A lot of these laser technicians probably just aren't that familiar with laser hair removal on the head.  I noticed that my technician looks carefully at my scalp with a light and then lasers any sign of hair.  Even if she has to overlap an earlier zap area.  Then she runs her hand over my scalp to see (by touch) if she missed anything and again lasers any sign of hair.  It's painful and a bit tedious, but I'm glad that she's so thorough.

Again, the only reasons not to do laser hair removal are (a) if you're not sure that you want to be bald, and (b) the pain.


Hey Common, I am planning on going for my first Appointment on the 10th. I also cant stand the site of my horse shoe especially on the back of my head. I just have some questions for you seeing that you are having much success in your journey and hope you have more as you go. I hope mine goes as well as yours as well.

I wonder if you have any advice i could get from you for me so that it could go as smoothly as possible and to get the best results. Also any advice to give my "doctor" that will be running the laser machine so that it may be as well as yours. Just so i dont get cheaped out and have to keep going and going back because they want more money and just drag it out. I chose a good place with a real doctor so hopefully its not one of those kinds of places. Its also a little more expensive than other places i always say you get what you pay for. Hopefully it reigns true.

Also what treatment are you on? and is your horseshoe at all noticeable when you shave and for how long til you actually notice it?

Thanks Common if you can help me out.

Your Friend, Bradey
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on May 01, 2010, 03:20:40 AM
just go for it! Common: keep up the good work.

Marty, is that your recent pic in the avatar?? Looks like you didn't laser-remove your hair at all...  :-\
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on May 01, 2010, 05:53:04 AM
Its 6-12 mos old. The whole top was lasered off. I cant do it all cause I have a lot of gray/white hair. Ahhh.....if I were 25 again, Id have done every strand. LOL Of course B Dangerous still doesnt have a pic up.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: B.Dangerous on May 01, 2010, 07:26:25 PM
Thanks Mazzle for being able to read and understand English.  I notice that anytime anybody has a problem or questions the laser process, they are quickly dismissed around here or just told GO GO GO GO GO FOR IT!  Just do it!  Marty says so!  I was actually inspired by Marty and his black and white pic that looked like he was totally bald or at least very close to it.  Now I see, he's not even close to totally bald.  He has a perfect crown.  So he's the number one cheerleader on here for completely lasering your head, but he's never nor can he experience it himself.  I'm not saying weather this is a good procedure or not, just saying don't base your decision at all on the stuff you get on here.  The only true success story I've heard is Common, so unless you're dark skinned and have African American hair type, there is nothing here to convince you.  I'll deal with my own stuff from now on.  Marty, you're a crock!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on May 01, 2010, 07:34:22 PM
Glad to help out, Bradey.  General advice:

(a) Take 3-4 Advils 45 minutes before your treatment
(b) Loofah your head every time you shower 3-15 days after your treatment
(c) Use LOTS of moisturizer or aloe gel and keep out of the sun
(d) Make sure they laser your eyebrows, ears, and nose while you're there--AT NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE

Advice for your technician:  Be thorough.  Don't be afraid to cause me pain.

Regarding your concerns about "cheaping out..."  My technician (a registered nurse) is probably also the cheapest in town.  Going to an expensive aesthetics doctors office is NO GUARANTEE of quality.  You want someone who has had experience lasering men's heads.  Again, that's experience lasering HEADS.  That's probably not going to be a high end place.  My advice: save your money.

What treatment am I on?  My 8th.  I took my avatar pic after my 3rd visit.

Horseshoe visibility.  Horseshoe is pretty invisible for 5-7 days after shaving for 6-8 weeks after each treatment.

Good luck!

Hey Common, I am planning on going for my first Appointment on the 10th. I also cant stand the site of my horse shoe especially on the back of my head. I just have some questions for you seeing that you are having much success in your journey and hope you have more as you go. I hope mine goes as well as yours as well.

I wonder if you have any advice i could get from you for me so that it could go as smoothly as possible and to get the best results. Also any advice to give my "doctor" that will be running the laser machine so that it may be as well as yours. Just so i dont get cheaped out and have to keep going and going back because they want more money and just drag it out. I chose a good place with a real doctor so hopefully its not one of those kinds of places. Its also a little more expensive than other places i always say you get what you pay for. Hopefully it reigns true.

Also what treatment are you on? and is your horseshoe at all noticeable when you shave and for how long til you actually notice it?

Thanks Common if you can help me out.

Your Friend, Bradey
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on May 01, 2010, 07:36:36 PM
The pain is a huge issue.  Most people will probably have a hard time making the 7-10 sessions that are necessary.  It hurts a lot, but gets better as you have less hair.

I went and got my second treatment today.  I decided to use the standard laser head for the whole thing instead of the Duet.  All I have to say is...OUCH!  Even with their 25% numbing cream, it hurt like a bitch.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on May 01, 2010, 10:07:59 PM
Thanks Mazzle for being able to read and understand English.  I notice that anytime anybody has a problem or questions the laser process, they are quickly dismissed around here or just told GO GO GO GO GO FOR IT!  Just do it!  Marty says so!  I was actually inspired by Marty and his black and white pic that looked like he was totally bald or at least very close to it.  Now I see, he's not even close to totally bald.  He has a perfect crown.  So he's the number one cheerleader on here for completely lasering your head, but he's never nor can he experience it himself.  I'm not saying weather this is a good procedure or not, just saying don't base your decision at all on the stuff you get on here.  The only true success story I've heard is Common, so unless you're dark skinned and have African American hair type, there is nothing here to convince you.  I'll deal with my own stuff from now on.  Marty, you're a crock!

I think the lack of success stories has more to do with the small sample size than anything else.  I wouldn't be so pessimistic about it.  I don't think there's anything qualitatively different about the head other than the density of the hair and large surface area, which means it requires a good deal of time and pain to cover the head thoroughly.  My nurse, who actually trains others nationwide to do laser procedures, took over 2.5 hours to do my admittedly large head.  (If they take a lot less time, they're probably not covering your head thoroughly, which results in patchiness.)

And, as I understand it, African-Americans actually have a much harder time achieving success than lighter skinned people.  The laser excites the molecules in melanin, so it doesn't just hit your hair.  Therefore, darker folks who have more melanin in their skin must use a lower laser setting to avoid burning the skin.  If you are light skinned, you can get much better results.  I'm a medium complexion, but even I've seen really good results with only a few treatments.  Here's a pict six weeks after my first partial treatment (which was aborted mid-way).  The areas done had almost no hair growth.

So, I'd agree with Common.  If you understand the risks and are truly committed to a chrome dome for life, go for it.  IMO, the caveats are:


The hard part, as Common said, is finding a good technician.  I don't think there's any easy way to figure out how good they are beforehand.  The only thing I'd suggest is (a) avoid Laser Treatment Centers of America (or something like that) and other laser franchise type deals since they're notorious for having shoddy training, being sued and closing down suddenly, (b) find somewhere that has strong numbing cream that they don't charge extra for and (c) visit as many places as you can and get test patches.  I'd say that you should be willing to drive 60-90 minutes away, if that's what it takes.  It's only once ever four weeks and the results are going to affect you for the rest of your life.  It's worth a few drives if you find a quality place.

(If you really do need to save money, try looking for a place with a LightSheer Duet.  Even though I wouldn't recommend the Duet head for the scalp, many of the places that have invested in the new machine have dropped their prices since sessions to common body areas with the Duet head now take half the time that they did with the standard laser head.)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on May 01, 2010, 10:09:14 PM
Oops, forgot the picture.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on May 02, 2010, 08:02:42 AM
Its 6-12 mos old. The whole top was lasered off. I cant do it all cause I have a lot of gray/white hair. Ahhh.....if I were 25 again, Id have done every strand. LOL Of course B Dangerous still doesnt have a pic up.

I don't understand - what's the point of lasering the top of your head, and omitting sides?? Even with a lot of gray hairs, you could still remove the dark ones and thus reduce the shadow to min. The sides are, imho, most important ones - they're the shadow.

Why did you laser only the top, it would've gone anyway because of MPB?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on May 02, 2010, 09:50:09 AM
thanks for asking...not like the other wise-ass. If u read my posts over the last 3 years, u will understand that I have hair transplant scars in the back. In addition to the gray/white hairs, it would be pretty much a nasty look with a lot of scar tissue exposed, if I went and lasered everything. My laser tech and I have discussed this numerous times and came up with his plan of attack. I go for follow-up treatments once each year.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on May 02, 2010, 02:35:31 PM
thanks for asking...not like the other wise-ass. If u read my posts over the last 3 years, u will understand that I have hair transplant scars in the back. In addition to the gray/white hairs, it would be pretty much a nasty look with a lot of scar tissue exposed. if I went and lasered everything. My laser tech and I have discusse fthis umerous times and came up with his plan of attack.

Oh, I see. That's completely different story then. Thanx for your explanations, and also for the valuable contributions in this thread! Hope you've found your own model of "attacking" and wish you a lot of sucess!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on May 03, 2010, 05:27:37 AM
I feel like i should also mention a rare side effect of laser hair removal but an increasingly reported one. Paradoxical hair growth. Basically when, after said number of treatments hair in the area being treated and surrounding area can start re-growing thicker and longer than what was previously there. I only bring this up because i think it may be happening to me. 6 or so weeks after my 6th treatment it was looking pretty good with only a couple of patches to deal with on the back, but all of a sudden i started seeing re-growth on pretty much my whole head. Although its still no where near as dense and thick as it used to be, the hairs that are growing back aren't particularly weak and are all black. I'm hoping that another session is going to do some good, but ive read that if you do experience Paradoxical hair growth its extremely difficult to treat and lasers have no effect on it. This is a link to a good document i found regarding the issue, and ways that it may be prevented. http://www.dermitek.com/noticias/estimulacionpelo2007.pdf
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on May 03, 2010, 08:07:16 AM
I suspect you're over-thinking this, Jez.  Some of the hair grows back after 6-8 weeks.  After your next treatment, it will go away again and come back even thinner in an additional 6-8 weeks.  Unfortunately, the 6-8 week time horizon is the true indicator of where you stand in the process.  It's easy to think "Hey, I'm nearly finished!" before that, when you actually may have 3-4 additional treatments to go.

At least that's my observation/hypothesis so far.

I feel like i should also mention a rare side effect of laser hair removal but an increasingly reported one. Paradoxical hair growth. Basically when, after said number of treatments hair in the area being treated and surrounding area can start re-growing thicker and longer than what was previously there. I only bring this up because i think it may be happening to me. 6 or so weeks after my 6th treatment it was looking pretty good with only a couple of patches to deal with on the back, but all of a sudden i started seeing re-growth on pretty much my whole head. Although its still no where near as dense and thick as it used to be, the hairs that are growing back aren't particularly weak and are all black. I'm hoping that another session is going to do some good, but ive read that if you do experience Paradoxical hair growth its extremely difficult to treat and lasers have no effect on it. This is a link to a good document i found regarding the issue, and ways that it may be prevented. http://www.dermitek.com/noticias/estimulacionpelo2007.pdf
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on May 03, 2010, 10:05:29 AM
That's an interesting study, Jez.  I think the summary contains a few things that might be of interest to us:

Quote
Of the 543 patients who received laser/IPL hair photoepilation, 57 (10.49%) demonstrated an increase in hair growth compared to baseline. The increased hair growth occurred within the area that was treated and also in the areas bordering the treated area, and appeared thicker and darker than the hairs initially treated (Figs. 1 and 2). An additional 44 (8.10%) patients demonstrated no apparent reduction in hair growth following treatment. Four hundred twenty-four patients (78.08%) demonstrated a decrease in hair growth with ongoing treatments. Only 14 patients (2.5%) were discharged from the clinic due to near complete hair reduction. These results are summarized in Table 2.

The increased terminal hair growth occurred mostly in areas in which fine hair or both fine and coarse hair was
present prior to initiation of treatment. Hair growth occurred with greater frequency in patients treated with
the Alexandrite and IPL devices compared those treated with the Nd:YAG, however, the later device was used less
frequently. Patients that developed terminal hair growth were in the following age groups: 19–31 years, 44 patients; 30–40 years, 8 patients; greater than 40 years, 5 patients. The onset of increased terminal hair growth was noted between the third and tenth treatment in 39 (72.2%) of 57 patients, and 11 (19%) of 57 between the third and fourth treatment. Most patients had a normal hormonal history. Sixteen patients had irregular menses or documented ovarian cysts.

Because the terminal hair growth occurred both within the treated areas and also at the periphery of treated areas
it was thought that sub-therapeutic thermal energy delivered to nearby follicles induced terminal hair growth.
Subsequent application of cold packs surrounding the treatment area during treatments and treating all
patients with two passes has minimized the incidence of terminal hair growth (Fig. 3). Since we have instituted this
method in our clinic 2 years ago, we have treated over 200 patients and have not had any patients with hair growth stimulation.

Fortunately, my nurse does have me applying an icepack before and after each zap.  Do yours?  Also, 90% of the patients in that study did not use the IPL lasers that we're all using, so it's applicability may not be all that great to our treatments.  Still, it's interesting.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jez on May 03, 2010, 10:20:38 AM
Ye you may be right Common, this is the first time i've gone without a treatment after 6 weeks, I'm on my 11th week at the moment. Hopefully I'm just being paranoid.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: bhead1986 on May 04, 2010, 02:31:15 PM
Glad to help out, Bradey.  General advice:

(a) Take 3-4 Advils 45 minutes before your treatment
(b) Loofah your head every time you shower 3-15 days after your treatment
(c) Use LOTS of moisturizer or aloe gel and keep out of the sun
(d) Make sure they laser your eyebrows, ears, and nose while you're there--AT NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE

Advice for your technician:  Be thorough.  Don't be afraid to cause me pain.

Regarding your concerns about "cheaping out..."  My technician (a registered nurse) is probably also the cheapest in town.  Going to an expensive aesthetics doctors office is NO GUARANTEE of quality.  You want someone who has had experience lasering men's heads.  Again, that's experience lasering HEADS.  That's probably not going to be a high end place.  My advice: save your money.

What treatment am I on?  My 8th.  I took my avatar pic after my 3rd visit.

Horseshoe visibility.  Horseshoe is pretty invisible for 5-7 days after shaving for 6-8 weeks after each treatment.

Good luck!


Thanks alot Common, I'll definitly be putting your advice to good practice. A through C.. i'll definitly work on D too LOL

So your saying after 6-8 weeks after your treatment it starts to get more and more noticable?

And those pictures that you posted earlier what treatment were you on when you took those cause those are awesome pictures, No horseshoe whatsoever. Thats what i want.

Thanks Again
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on May 05, 2010, 08:29:05 PM
My Mar 10 pics were approximately four weeks after my seventh laser treatment.  I started getting a little hairier mid-April until I got another treatment last week.  (Also, somewhere in the middle there, I tried a Duet treatment that had no effect.)  However, even at my worse, I was only a *little hairier*.  Nothing like where I started.  At this point, my standards are pretty high.

I'm beginning to think that I may need 10-12 treatments before I'm permanently where I want to be.  I just completed treatment eight.

This is another good reason to make sure that you're not starting this process with a provider that charges too much!  I paid approx $150/session originally and now that I have less hair it's $100/session.  If I'd begun this process paying $300-$500/session, this journey would be a lot more frustrating.


Thanks alot Common, I'll definitly be putting your advice to good practice. A through C.. i'll definitly work on D too LOL

So your saying after 6-8 weeks after your treatment it starts to get more and more noticable?

And those pictures that you posted earlier what treatment were you on when you took those cause those are awesome pictures, No horseshoe whatsoever. Thats what i want.

Thanks Again
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: bhead1986 on May 06, 2010, 03:37:12 PM
yeah i'm paying 250 a treatment, i donno if thats high or not seeing as i live in Canada. They also are going to be using the GentleLase Machine for my scalp. Hopefully i can bring them down a little bit or maybe get a free one after so many visits, and once i get less hair. I'll try haggle them a bit anyway.

i'll be glad once i get to 6 or 7 treatments and no shadow will exist for awhile between shaves, then i can take er easy between visits and save up my money again
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on May 06, 2010, 04:06:19 PM
good luck b head!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: bhead1986 on May 06, 2010, 06:07:10 PM
thanks Marty, I'm so glad im doing this... i was stuck in such a rut before i finally decided to do this. Plus i really like the feel and look of a freshly shaved head too hopefully the girls feel the same way lol
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on May 06, 2010, 07:24:01 PM
I wish I had done it at 25 before the transplant thing.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: baldfireguy25 on May 06, 2010, 07:35:18 PM
Hey Bhead1986...  I had my second treatment today.  5 weeks after my first and I have to tell you that after the first treatment I almost didn't go back due to the pain!!  But after 2 weeks my hair started falling out and I lost approx 40-50% of my hair after the first treatment. It was my motivating factor to go back!!!   I was only thin on the top of my head and had full hair on the sides.  What was left after the first treatment were a few patchy areas on the side and a 2" wide strip along the back of my head from ear to ear.  The hair that I had left on the top of my head is gone from the first treatment as well as 70% of the hair on my sides and the lower part of my neck line.  They used the Gentlase on me as well.  The treatment I had today they gave me lidocaine cream for and it wasn't nearly as bad!!!  As for cost...  it was $500 for the first treatment of the whole head and $125 each additional treatment because she said that we will only be hitting the regrowth areas from here on out!!  My nurse said that with the Gentlase you don't have to worry about regrowth like what was spoke about in the previous heads!!  I hope she is right!!  Anyway...  Good Luck with your treatment I will be curious to see how you will do!!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on May 06, 2010, 08:29:04 PM
I'm paying $100 for each of 12 treatments, but she's also doing my face (except my goutee), so I do scalp on one day, face on another.  Parts of the face, by the way, hurt even more than the head.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Rusty Shackleford on May 06, 2010, 08:53:27 PM
I'd think you'd probably be better off if 10%-15% of the hairs never die and would force you to reshave the small amount of stubble once a week or so.  Could you imagine if you thought you were 100% hair-free and never shaved, and then one day you discovered a couple foot long hairs growing from the back of your head?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: bhead1986 on May 07, 2010, 10:24:40 PM
Hey Bhead1986...  I had my second treatment today.  5 weeks after my first and I have to tell you that after the first treatment I almost didn't go back due to the pain!!  But after 2 weeks my hair started falling out and I lost approx 40-50% of my hair after the first treatment. It was my motivating factor to go back!!!   I was only thin on the top of my head and had full hair on the sides.  What was left after the first treatment were a few patchy areas on the side and a 2" wide strip along the back of my head from ear to ear.  The hair that I had left on the top of my head is gone from the first treatment as well as 70% of the hair on my sides and the lower part of my neck line.  They used the Gentlase on me as well.  The treatment I had today they gave me lidocaine cream for and it wasn't nearly as bad!!!  As for cost...  it was $500 for the first treatment of the whole head and $125 each additional treatment because she said that we will only be hitting the regrowth areas from here on out!!  My nurse said that with the Gentlase you don't have to worry about regrowth like what was spoke about in the previous heads!!  I hope she is right!!  Anyway...  Good Luck with your treatment I will be curious to see how you will do!!

wow thats so awesome man, that gives me so much hope.  I'll definitly keep things updated and possible post pictures. I think you made my night. Cheers
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: bhead1986 on May 08, 2010, 03:53:33 AM
i go on monday its only 2 days to go, i've kinda been having second thoughts since i talked to my parents, i definitly dont want to regret doing it because it is permanent and they both said that it is something that they would never do, but as long as i am happy. and i also think how it will look as i get older. i try to imagine myself as an old man with a hairless head, would it look good as i am older. Lots of old guys rock the captains cut. Or should i just think of the now and maybe help set a new path for "our type". Maybe if i get a tattoo on the back of my neck or side of my neck. I think i'd be a pretty cool old guy.

I also think what my friends might think as most dont know that i am this bald seeing as i wear a hat all the time. I guess it doesnt change who i am on the inside and if they are real friends they would embrase me and my decision and still like me for me.

I donno all you old fellas out there say that you would of did it a long time ago if you had the chance... im just teetering on the edge right now hoping that the wind will blow me in the right direction.

Sorry i think i just needed to get some of those thoughts out there. Only i can make the decision but damn is it ever a hard one.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on May 08, 2010, 04:17:01 AM
i go on monday its only 2 days to go, i've kinda been having second thoughts since i talked to my parents, i definitly dont want to regret doing it because it is permanent and they both said that it is something that they would never do, but as long as i am happy. and i also think how it will look as i get older. i try to imagine myself as an old man with a hairless head, would it look good as i am older. Lots of old guys rock the captains cut. Or should i just think of the now and maybe help set a new path for "our type". Maybe if i get a tattoo on the back of my neck or side of my neck. I think i'd be a pretty cool old guy.

I also think what my friends might think as most dont know that i am this bald seeing as i wear a hat all the time. I guess it doesnt change who i am on the inside and if they are real friends they would embrase me and my decision and still like me for me.

I donno all you old fellas out there say that you would of did it a long time ago if you had the chance... im just teetering on the edge right now hoping that the wind will blow me in the right direction.

Sorry i think i just needed to get some of those thoughts out there. Only i can make the decision but damn is it ever a hard one.

Bhead, your current musings are related to the first stage of realizing that you're gonna be bald. We all went through it... That's a phase when you're probably not sure do you need transplant, take some dht-inhibitor, wear hat whenever you go.... etc. Also, included in the package is a constant question over your head "What others might think?!"

I see that you're born in '86. , so that makes sense since you're probably newbie to the baldmen community.

Once you're done with that stage, and it will probably come as years go by, in the next phase you won't have such issues, and it will be of second nature to you. At least I assume it. Then you'll try to make best out of it, and that's why we're all here.
To me personally, hairless head now looks far more superior than any balding/shadowed head, like a couple of light-years ahead. It's just that my mindset has changed over the years. To some guy with no hair issues over there who reads this, it probably looks like I'm a lunatic. It goes to the point that you start to see beauty in complete hairlessness, and only guys from "within" can understand it. :) So, if you're severely balding and there's not really much you can do about it, once you go past that first stage (both mentally and physically), it will probably start to become more easy for you and you won't have any doubts what to do anymore. Good luck whatever you choose!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: The Noggin on May 08, 2010, 04:28:40 AM
Bhead, I don't want to discourage you, also keep in mind that I don't even consider lasering for myself, but I think you have to be 100% sure before you go to that first session, because there is no way back. I don't know for how long you have been shaving your dome. Perhaps you need more time to accept baldness as your style? Anyhow, good luck with your decision.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on May 08, 2010, 09:20:50 AM
i go on monday its only 2 days to go, i've kinda been having second thoughts ....

If you're having doubts, don't do it.  Take a little more time to think things over.  You can always have it done at a later time.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: bhead1986 on May 13, 2010, 09:38:21 PM
well i went ahead and did it! So glad too! i have this new found lust for life again! Its only been 3 days since i had it done... not much of the hair has fallen out but i can see small circles where the hair has started to fall out. Let me tell you it definitly wasnt a cake walk, the pain from that zapper on your head probably about 200 or more times really adds up, i gotta say its totally worth it though. There was a small regret after i did it for about 1 second while driving home but then i thought i am going to be completely horseshoe free and that image alone swept that regret away.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kdog on May 28, 2010, 02:22:45 PM
hey guys! anyone been through 4/5 laser sessions (assuming it takes 8/10 months), did you have experience with a new hair growth cycle kicking in about 8 months in? I'm tweezing my head and seem to be getting back the horseshoe shadow eight months in - i've been free of that for so long!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on May 28, 2010, 04:23:49 PM
I agree with Razor X.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on May 28, 2010, 08:01:24 PM
hey guys! anyone been through 4/5 laser sessions (assuming it takes 8/10 months), did you have experience with a new hair growth cycle kicking in about 8 months in? I'm tweezing my head and seem to be getting back the horseshoe shadow eight months in - i've been free of that for so long!
My guess is tweezing is a different animal than lasering since you're far less likely to kill the follicle when you tweeze.  Perhaps they were shocked into an extended telogen phase, which is the phase of hair growth during which the follicle falls out and is replaced by new hair.  Usually that phase only lasts for three months, but perhaps the shock of tweezing made it last longer?  It's a stretch.

Another thing to consider is that there is such a thing as seasonal hair re-growth that can vary from person to person.  Check out this page:  http://www.hairinformation.com/hair-growth/hair-re-growth.shtml.  I remember reading a blog about a lady who got laser hair removal on her legs but would get significant regrowth in the winter or something.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on June 03, 2010, 01:21:11 PM
I took me 10-12 treatmetns. The lst three knocked out a lot of hair and I go annually for follow-up.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Klibese on June 16, 2010, 07:47:40 PM
Hey guys. 
Like a few before me this topic alone was enough for me to join up.  I'm thinking of getting the treatment done myself.  The information here is the best I could ind anywhere.  I'm not worried much about stripes or patchiness or even a small breakout if it comes to that, I'm thinking long-term (being 29 in less than a month, you know those grey hairs aren't far of).

I have no problem being bald, I've been either buzzing or bic-ing it for years (24 was a hard year for me, haha).  THe shaved look is far superior though.  Making it way easier?  Totally an idea I've been thinking about for a year now...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on June 16, 2010, 08:39:36 PM
... I'm thinking long-term (being 29 in less than a month, you know those grey hairs aren't far of).


Wow ... you're old.   :*))

Welcome to the group.   ;)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: DeviantMagick on July 05, 2010, 11:32:00 AM
Hello everybody,

I'm new to the group.
I researched this a couple years ago and after many quotes from different places I spoke to one that was very reputable in the area and they told me they wouldn't give me a quote because they didn't offer laser hair removal on the scalp.

When I asked them why they said that they guarantee permanent hair removal and they have their own research division that has determined that the scalp is the only place that hair cannot be permanently removed so if they did it they would be losing money.  After that conversation I stopped looking.  I figure if they're in the business of making money and they're turning away my business then there must be some truth to what they found.

For some odd reason I decided to search again and today I came across this forum.  First let me say, AWESOME!  This is the best information and source that I have ever found on the subject.

A few questions:
1) For everyone that has done it have any of you completed your treatments over a year ago and have you been completely hair-free since? (Meaning no shaving and not having to go back due to a seasonal growth cycle, etc...)

2) Do any of you regret it or have had a negative experience with it?

3) Have you only done your scalp or have any of you also done your face, or parts of your face?

4) Do you feel your expense has paid off?

This forum has pushed me back on the path of considering it again, and I'm slightly excited.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on July 05, 2010, 12:36:25 PM
I'm only about half-way through my appointments, but here's my reaction for what it's worth.

1) For everyone that has done it have any of you completed your treatments over a year ago and have you been completely hair-free since? (Meaning no shaving and not having to go back due to a seasonal growth cycle, etc...)

N/A

2) Do any of you regret it or have had a negative experience with it?

It was way more painful than I expected.  I have to do three 2-2.5 hour appointments to  cover my whole head, 2 for the scalp and 1 for the face/neck.  The sides and top/back part of the scalp hurt significantly more than the face.  I'm also one of the unlucky few that gets hyper-pigmentation, which is darkening of the skin in certain seemingly random areas that are zapped, but that's already faded a lot.

My only regret is that I didn't do it sooner.  I'm not sure if it's coincidence or the stress of the zapping process, but I'm getting a TON of hairs going gray since I started.  I wish I had done it before that was a possibility.  I also wish I had started in the fall.  Having to wear a hat and tons of sunscreen during the summer really puts a damper on my favorite season.

3) Have you only done your scalp or have any of you also done your face, or parts of your face?

I'm doing everything above my shoulders except my goatee.  She's even doing the edges of the goatee and soul patch area to make it cleaner and more "geometric".

4) Do you feel your expense has paid off?

Even if I don't get 100% hair loss or completely permanent removal, I'm extremely happy that I chose to do this.  Shaving is ridiculously fast and easy now.  I'm now always clean shaven, which was impossible before due to my sensitive skin, and never have that Fred Flintsone darkness in my bearded areas any more.  I'd say that I have 70% hair loss in my face and about 50% on my scalp.  While I originally went in there focused on lasering my scalp, it's the clean face that's turned out to be the best thing about my experience.

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on July 05, 2010, 06:09:34 PM
it does work but it also has strict boundaries. White/gray doesnt work. It takes many appointments to get it all. We are here to help.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: johnnyo on July 05, 2010, 07:15:50 PM
For youall that want to do the lazer, that's up to you, but, for me, when I got rid of the rug and decided to go natural, I guess I also feel that shaving is the natural way to go. Thanks Maz for the good information, that's what this site is all about. Sometimes it gets to be like the kid in the candy shop, there is so much different information and ideas, you sort of get confused.  :D
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on July 05, 2010, 10:04:58 PM
No problem guys.  I enjoy sharing my experiences.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: markc on September 04, 2010, 02:33:08 PM
hey guys. Interesting thread. Im booked in for laser hair removal tomorrow, 1st session. Not ipl but hair removal with the gentelase system (alexandrite laser) the clinic says. They have said to shave the night before then come in next morning and that it should take about 15 minutes for the whole head. 6 sessions will cost $1170 (australian dollars) each one 6 weeks apart.  Its going to be painful but worth it i reckon.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on September 04, 2010, 02:43:46 PM
15 min?  Wow.  The first time I went, we had to split it up into two session, each 2 hours long.  Going a small spot at a time, especially the first time when it's really painful, takes forever.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: rcg5227 on September 04, 2010, 03:02:05 PM
IMHO, I think I'd rather shave it every day or every other day. Most of it is cost issues, but then it takes away the fun of shaving my head. :D
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: markc on September 04, 2010, 11:32:01 PM
yeah mazzle, thats what they said, 15 mins. The laser sprays cooling fluid onto your head prior to the laser firing so hopefully wont be too red. Im expecting the pain though!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on September 05, 2010, 08:26:46 AM
Wow, I don't think my nurse could cover my head in 15 min, even if she took out the part where she actually zaps it.  :)  Please do post after you get back and tell us how it goes.

(And you're right to expect pain.  My place applies 30% numbing cream, which is 4x stronger than what you can get via common prescriptions, and it still hurts like a bitch.)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: markc on September 05, 2010, 09:08:55 PM
  Just got back from first laser hair removal session. Head is not red and doesnt hurt right now, just a little discomfort like mild sunburn. The staff were great and said they have a lot of guys coming for hair removal on the head.
 The therapist was brilliant. I asked about her qualifications prior to treatment (she said she hardly ever gets asked that but said it was a good question). Id researched the level of qualification needed for this procedure in australia prior to attending so knew what was accpetable training.
  She marked my head with a white pencil to get good even coverage then started. I put on the goggles. I didnt use any numbing cream.
  The laser was a candela gentlase, it fires a shot of cooling liquid onto the area then fires the laser. Back and top of head, pain was like 3/10, easy. The sides stung like a bitch (pain 6/10) for about 1 second everytime the laser fired but quickly subsided. Took 20 minutes for my whole head, next session booked for 6 weeks time. Gotta stay out the sun in between treatments (not easy in australia!) so lots of sunscreen and caps on head
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mazzle on September 06, 2010, 06:49:44 PM
Wow, 20 min?  How big an area does each zap cover?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on September 06, 2010, 07:10:14 PM
to mr australia: keep us up to date...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: markc on September 06, 2010, 07:30:21 PM
Each zap covers the size of a 20 cent coin (aussie coin) about 18-20mm circle. It was quick and stung but not too bad. Little bit red at base of my neck but thats where i had the problem with shaving anyway so i was expecting it. Doesnt hurt today at all. will keep you posted guys, so far so good. be nice to get rid of the shadow and have a smooth head!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: markc on September 09, 2010, 04:25:38 AM
3 days after first laser treatment. Had spots on the back of my head for a few days (a common reaction to laser hair removal the clinic says). Now cleared up. No pain post treatment, hair growth slowed loads. Head feels like bristles on a brush at present but she assures me that it  will start to drop out in next 2 weeks and the bristle feeling is the lasered hair. All good so far
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: DeviantMagick on September 09, 2010, 06:10:15 AM
@Mr. Australia- Definitely following your progress, thanks for the update.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on September 09, 2010, 07:47:24 AM
another laser guy here...ask questions and they will be answered.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on September 09, 2010, 07:49:26 AM
I had major red spots and crusting for 5-7 days. It was sore and then it subsides, I noticed hair loss after 14-17 days. Stay out of the sun for a few weeks if not more after treatments.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marbles on September 14, 2010, 10:03:05 PM
hey... newbie here.. but been looking or at least thinking about the laser thing for a few years... anyhow the guys who have been doing it... can you guys say where?  what cities? places? info.. i'm gonna start talking to people locally but i'd love to start with places that i know for sure has experiance with lasering heads.  thanks in advance..
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: markc on September 15, 2010, 11:38:26 PM
melbourne australia here. found one place in melbourne. Currently on 1st of 6 treatments and going well mate
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: markc on September 16, 2010, 07:02:14 AM
Day 10 after 1st laser treatment. Great so far, hair grows a lot lot slower, no red marks or spots on head. Gone from shaving twice a day to once every day (could go longer but i like it smooth). No hair fall out yet but clinic said it could feel like stubble as the hair is expelled from the root over next 2 weeks. Great so far
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marbles on September 16, 2010, 10:26:43 PM
yeah im on the border of ohio/michigan in the U.S. right now, looking for around here more.  Anybody know of good places in the midwest?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marbles on September 18, 2010, 07:09:09 PM
Common where are you from?  you seem to be happy with things..  Mazzle i seen you are from ann arbor? where are you going? You seem pleased so far too.. and thats close for a start for me..
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on September 27, 2010, 11:32:39 AM
Denver.  The place I went to is here: http://www.laserrn.com.

Common where are you from?  you seem to be happy with things..  Mazzle i seen you are from ann arbor? where are you going? You seem pleased so far too.. and thats close for a start for me..
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marbles on September 28, 2010, 09:42:20 PM
thanks common.. dang thats a but far for me too.. was hoping mazzle would got back to me also.. anyone happen to know where he went? i pm'd him but no response yet.. i'm just 1 hr or so south of him.. so depending on where he goes.. it may be close.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: benmcd on October 01, 2010, 09:44:11 AM
melbourne australia here. found one place in melbourne. Currently on 1st of 6 treatments and going well mate

Where in Melbourne does this procedure?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: markc on October 01, 2010, 05:14:12 PM
myskin laser clinic at malvern mate. very good and proffesional too
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on October 12, 2010, 06:34:55 AM

Any pics so far, or even videos?
Anyone??



BTW, this guy looks pretty cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thNXHt7NYZk&feature=related


Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: markc on October 15, 2010, 06:10:40 PM
2nd treatment yesterday. Took about 15 mins to do my head second time round and didnt sting as much as last time.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on October 27, 2010, 05:49:39 PM
Hello fellow baldies,
I found this site when looking into lasering my head. I actually had laser a few yrs ago on my arm when planning to sleeve it up. It actually didn't work much since I only had one session  ( the tech nor I knew it would take a few more). It was new here back then, a lot more expensive and info wasn't as available as it is now. The tech did do a test spot on my neck since I was thinking about shaping my goatee. That spot is still bald 15 yrs later with just one zap.  Back then I had already started shaving my head due to the thin top. The tech did suggest I could laser my head. Back then I was still hoping in that miracle pill a few of us been waiting for, No not Viagra, the other one... but as we all know, No luck... but the head zapping idea always stood in the back of my mind.
 
Given the choise, I  much rather have a full head of hair, unfortunately it isn't an option. Even with stem cell research regarding hair growth, It's too far from completion for me to benefit from it. So it brings me to here. I HATE the "horseshoe" look, But don't look bad with a tight shave. I'm kinda lazy when it comes to shaving so shave every 2-3 days at most and "hat" it the rest. Hair grows fast, just not into shaving. It'll be great not to have to "hat" it just to cover the stupid "horseshoe". I'm hitting 44 so kinda outgrowing the baseball cap thing. On top of that, greying faster now (5 % or so now) So, best to do it now then zap the leftovers with electrolysis. I did that also 15-20 yrs ago for tattoos & mustache shaping,  and it worked great. Too large an area for it now though.
 
 I actually had a consultation and my appointment for my first session is next week. I'm going to have everything above my shoulders leaving just a goatee as one fellow baldy stated he's getting done. Being in NY, I couldn't find the great deals I see some of you guys had. I looked at a few locations, and w/o driving 2 hrs, The best local cost is $600 a session or prepay $1,800 for four sessions. I didn't ask for the breakdown of area, but I guess It would be two (head/face). So $300  ($225 if pre-paid for 4) a session for the head. I have a pretty thick beard that goes low on my neck. If broken down by area it's not so bad. She said she will cover it all. Back of neck, upper checks, below and sides of eyes, between eyebrows, shape goatee, inside goatee, everything... She is also located only a cpl of miles from me and made me feel comfortable since she had done a few heads already, so that's a plus..
 
I've done a bit of research, and thanks to this site, I'm going into it knowing a bit more what to expect, better informed and feeling better knowing I'm not alone in what I thought was a crazy idea. I'm planning to take some pic before and after and will post then a wk or so after first session.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on October 27, 2010, 07:16:38 PM
welcome. what part of ny do u come from?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldman on October 27, 2010, 10:21:19 PM
I have definitely thought about it, I have not done any research on it though. Sounds painful and expensive but that would be super awesome!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on October 28, 2010, 07:05:53 AM
Hey Martty...  Mostly LI... Orig fm Manhattan, then LI during HS&college, Bx a few yrs, Now Putnam county. I think one of your earlier comments stated you was from LI. Most of my family still out there, I just hated the traffic when commuting to the city for wk. Even the LIRR was crazy  :D. So moved a bit N, a lot less populated, an Hr to city, more house for the $, most imp, VERY little commuting traffic...BUT Now it's a 2hr ride to visit family. Oh well...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on October 28, 2010, 07:13:25 AM
Hello fellow baldies,
I found this site when looking into lasering my head. I actually had laser a few yrs ago on my arm when planning to sleeve it up. It actually didn't work much since I only had one session  ( the tech nor I knew it would take a few more). It was new here back then, a lot more expensive and info wasn't as available as it is now. The tech did do a test spot on my neck since I was thinking about shaping my goatee. That spot is still bald 15 yrs later with just one zap.  Back then I had already started shaving my head due to the thin top. The tech did suggest I could laser my head. Back then I was still hoping in that miracle pill a few of us been waiting for, No not Viagra, the other one... but as we all know, No luck... but the head zapping idea always stood in the back of my mind.
 
Given the choise, I  much rather have a full head of hair, unfortunately it isn't an option. Even with stem cell research regarding hair growth, It's too far from completion for me to benefit from it. So it brings me to here. I HATE the "horseshoe" look, But don't look bad with a tight shave. I'm kinda lazy when it comes to shaving so shave every 2-3 days at most and "hat" it the rest. Hair grows fast, just not into shaving. It'll be great not to have to "hat" it just to cover the stupid "horseshoe". I'm hitting 44 so kinda outgrowing the baseball cap thing. On top of that, greying faster now (5 % or so now) So, best to do it now then zap the leftovers with electrolysis. I did that also 15-20 yrs ago for tattoos & mustache shaping,  and it worked great. Too large an area for it now though.
 
 I actually had a consultation and my appointment for my first session is next week. I'm going to have everything above my shoulders leaving just a goatee as one fellow baldy stated he's getting done. Being in NY, I couldn't find the great deals I see some of you guys had. I looked at a few locations, and w/o driving 2 hrs, The best local cost is $600 a session or prepay $1,800 for four sessions. I didn't ask for the breakdown of area, but I guess It would be two (head/face). So $300  ($225 if pre-paid for 4) a session for the head. I have a pretty thick beard that goes low on my neck. If broken down by area it's not so bad. She said she will cover it all. Back of neck, upper checks, below and sides of eyes, between eyebrows, shape goatee, inside goatee, everything... She is also located only a cpl of miles from me and made me feel comfortable since she had done a few heads already, so that's a plus..
 
I've done a bit of research, and thanks to this site, I'm going into it knowing a bit more what to expect, better informed and feeling better knowing I'm not alone in what I thought was a crazy idea. I'm planning to take some pic before and after and will post then a wk or so after first session.

Best of luck, and don't forget the pics, since no one here posts barely any of them anymore... thanx!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on October 28, 2010, 05:33:34 PM
Hey kokyman, From you post it seems that you're on the fence on this... The way I see it is like this... Hair I lost ain't coming back... Stem cell research to long a wait. Too many horror stories with hair transplants even after it costing 10-15k. The rug just don't look realistic unless you have John Travoltas, Elton john, Tom Hanks or William Shatner type of $$$... I don't... I hate the horseshoe shadow. The laser laser does work at least for some of it. I had a test patch done 15yrd ago that's still bare. Electrolysis works, Did that too.. So, I'll do the 8-12 laser sessions and if I have to, throw in a few electrolysis in between to get the stubborn and white ones. I'm going into it knowing it's a no turning back, long, bit pricey, possible patchy, bit painful commitment. But at the end of it all... one way or the other, it'll be gone... worst case scenario, I'll have to do a lot of electrolysis... Anyway, I will be taking pics just to see for myself the progress, So I'll post as I go along...

On a side note, My wife thinks I'm crazy and that I look the same w/or w/o the shadow... Yeah, that's why I keep her around.     :@`
 
 
 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on October 30, 2010, 08:18:52 AM
Hey kokyman, From you post it seems that you're on the fence on this... The way I see it is like this... Hair I lost ain't coming back... Stem cell research to long a wait. Too many horror stories with hair transplants even after it costing 10-15k. The rug just don't look realistic unless you have John Travoltas, Elton john, Tom Hanks or William Shatner type of $$$... I don't... I hate the horseshoe shadow. The laser laser does work at least for some of it. I had a test patch done 15yrd ago that's still bare. Electrolysis works, Did that too.. So, I'll do the 8-12 laser sessions and if I have to, throw in a few electrolysis in between to get the stubborn and white ones. I'm going into it knowing it's a no turning back, long, bit pricey, possible patchy, bit painful commitment. But at the end of it all... one way or the other, it'll be gone... worst case scenario, I'll have to do a lot of electrolysis... Anyway, I will be taking pics just to see for myself the progress, So I'll post as I go along...

On a side note, My wife thinks I'm crazy and that I look the same w/or w/o the shadow... Yeah, that's why I keep her around.     :@`
 

Hi Jason,

I'm not on the fence - I'll do it definately, just right now at the moment I don't have any money for it. It's a must for me.
My shadow will be so f*cked up, that the only solution is permanent removal, or at least bringing it to minimum.
Right now, it ain't that bad, but already shows pretty much clear signs of advanced NW7 pattern, which is horrible. :)

With shadow, it doesn't matter if you have a nicely shaped skull or if you look good bald - it spoils everything. That's why it has to be removed. I think that's the primar reason why everyone wants LHR, less because of ease of shaving.

It's almost ironic that males with alopecia totalis on their head look much better that the ones with shadow. The head looks clean, compact, and in many cases - cool. Shadow f*cks up everything, it kills the natural aerodynamic lines of someones head, and still serves to viewer's eyes as hair - even if you're clean shaven. So, there's no other alternative for me.

I think laser hair removal is the best option for most of us, just I don't see that many successful stories - or they don't post.

Good luck, Jason, and don't forget to report!  ;)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Magoo on October 30, 2010, 04:11:05 PM
Kokyman........Your kind of hard on us guys that carry a shadow. I personally like the shadow. I think it breaks up the naked look and adds character.Remember beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on October 30, 2010, 09:18:51 PM
I hear you... In my opinion, I don't like the way "I" look with the shadow. Everyone is different. Magoo, you probably look fine with the shadow, And it's even better that you feel comfortable with it. But there's a few of us that don't. Just personal preference. On top of that, I hate shaving.

I contacted a few guys that had this done (completed) a few years ago since not many people on this forum have posted long term pictures. I've gotten a couple of replies that were positive. Was sent pictures showing no longer shadowed. Most say some hair does come back, but as that happens, it can be re-zapped w/laser or electrolysis.

Anyway, I'll try to post updates as I go along as I know this isn't an easy step.       
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on November 01, 2010, 05:48:23 AM
I hear you... In my opinion, I don't like the way "I" look with the shadow. Everyone is different. Magoo, you probably look fine with the shadow, And it's even better that you feel comfortable with it. But there's a few of us that don't. Just personal preference. On top of that, I hate shaving.

I contacted a few guys that had this done (completed) a few years ago since not many people on this forum have posted long term pictures. I've gotten a couple of replies that were positive. Was sent pictures showing no longer shadowed. Most say some hair does come back, but as that happens, it can be re-zapped w/laser or electrolysis.

Anyway, I'll try to post updates as I go along as I know this isn't an easy step.       

I am same as you, I definately don't look good with shadow. IMHO, just a small number of people do. Dalai Lama maybe? :)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: mytime2ride on November 21, 2010, 12:24:38 PM
I have male pattern baldness. I chose to shave my head over a year ago and will continue to keep my scalp hair free. I'm 48 years old, very active, and appreciate the simple and clean look; as does my wife.  The only drawback is the time needed for daily or bi-daily shaving and the irritation that can occur.

My wife's sister suggested that I use the SensEpil by Silk'n (IPL) as an option for reducing or eliminating the hair from my head. It seems, after some research, that I'm a good candidate for IPL because I have moderately fair skin and very dark but fine hair. I'm aware that it's considered permanent but so is MPB and rounding the corner to age 50, I don't intend on sporting the "horseshoe" haircut with the "island" of hair on my forehead. I can only see the upside of this choice.

My question to you is: What is the downside of this choice to use IPL for scalp hair removal other than the permanence, which I see as an upside?

If you feel that there are other upsides, I would appreciate your input on that as well.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Dweezil on November 23, 2010, 10:21:25 AM
I have lurked he for a couple months and registered today. Here is my story and my predicament. Im 43, been losing my hair since about 19 when I first realized it. Later in my 20s dont remember exactly when, 23-24 I think, I had my first hair transplant to fill in my temples and fill in the top a bit. That worked fine if not great for a few years. Then my hair kept thinning and it started to look crappier and crappier and was more and more noticeable as an HT. I had a second one by the same Doc and that was a wash and just caused more shock loss and cost money. Used fillers and wore hats for years. hair loss progressed until it looked awful and unnatural and I had one last HT 5 years ago by a much better doc ( supposedly) to try and undue some of the poor work by removing some of the bigger grafts up front and a scar revision for the donor area and add another 3000 grafts or so. The whole thing was generally a failure besides the removal of the most obvious big grafts up front.

So today I am left with one of the worst Linear donor scars Ive seen ( seen worse but not many). A depleted donor area with a
 horshoe and sparse hair up top with a certain amount of minor pitting and some larger 3-4 hair grafts towards the back. Im having trouble typing more so I guess ive hit maximum words and will have to finish up in next post.



Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Dweezil on November 23, 2010, 10:31:46 AM
So what I would like to do is have my remaining hair including grafts lasered away and have the scar and top of my head resurfaced. My hope is that with the shadow at the back gone the contrast between dark stubble and barren skin will diminish the look of the scar a bit.  And perhaps with some fraxel type laser the quality of the scar tissue could be improved. I am also hoping that like acne scarring that is leveled somewhat with fraxel the minor pitting up top could be lessened.

I would like any suggestions, especially from Marty who I believe had the most similar situation. I am also a New Yorker Marty who lived on LI most of my life in lives in the hudson Valley now about 1 1/2 hour fro NYC.

I will try to figure out how to post some pics of my scar and head.

Thanks
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on November 23, 2010, 11:38:49 AM
So what I would like to do is have my remaining hair including grafts lasered away and have the scar and top of my head resurfaced. My hope is that with the shadow at the back gone the contrast between dark stubble and barren skin will diminish the look of the scar a bit.  And perhaps with some fraxel type laser the quality of the scar tissue could be improved. I am also hoping that like acne scarring that is leveled somewhat with fraxel the minor pitting up top could be lessened.

I would like any suggestions, especially from Marty who I believe had the most similar situation. I am also a New Yorker Marty who lived on LI most of my life in lives in the hudson Valley now about 1 1/2 hour fro NYC.

I will try to figure out how to post some pics of my scar and head.

Thanks

Hello Dweezil!

I can't really offer you any advices, because I haven't done (or more precisely, haven't gone into the process of) any LHR myself yet. And your problem seems multifaceted, so you'll have to attack from various angles, like you explained.

However, I think that by going to the LHR route, in terms of removing hair, you can't do any wrong. You can only benefit from reduced contrast of scar tissue vs shadow, and - with scar pronounced or not - you'll certanly look better without shadow, anytime.

Good luck in your quest!

p.s. I think this site doesn't allow normal way of posting pics, it's best to upload them somewhere else and then share links.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Dweezil on November 23, 2010, 03:05:29 PM
Thanks for the response Kokyman. The only worry I have is, I decide to fry my remaining follicles and then shortly after some kind of cell therapy breakthrough happens and Ive got no viable donor cells. Or it doesnt really take and Ive got patchy hair and cant grow whats left to cover the scar and such. I have no issue with being shaved or completely bald at all. been doing it for quite a few months, although I would prefer my pre balding hair or any no scarred appearence for that matter.

So those are the downsides in my mind. The other side though is that "time keeps on slippin slippin slippin into the future". So Id like to get my head to a point of not being so disfigured before its tmie for the big ole dirt nap.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on November 23, 2010, 03:37:08 PM
Thanks for the response Kokyman. The only worry I have is, I decide to fry my remaining follicles and then shortly after some kind of cell therapy breakthrough happens and Ive got no viable donor cells. Or it doesnt really take and Ive got patchy hair and cant grow whats left to cover the scar and such. I have no issue with being shaved or completely bald at all. been doing it for quite a few months, although I would prefer my pre balding hair or any no scarred appearence for that matter.

So those are the downsides in my mind. The other side though is that "time keeps on slippin slippin slippin into the future". So Id like to get my head to a point of not being so disfigured before its tmie for the big ole dirt nap.

Well, since you're here, in this thread, obviously you're not happy with keeping remaining hair. Like myself.

Unfortunately, there aren't many success stories here -- or people don't post -- about LHR. No one here said clearly "It worked for me, and I am pleased." Even more important, no one posted any quality pictures, with substantial results.

That's why I'm hesitating, too. Aside from money, which currently I don't have.

But still, something tells me that laser technology is still the best one out there, for the solution of my problem.

p.s. regarding cell therapy and multiplication: you can always save one small part - say couple of milimeters of hair above you ear - so that if one day cell therapy becomes available, you can use it. If it becomes fully valid technology of restoring hair, then it wouldn't matter to multiplicate 1,000 or 100,000 hair cells.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Dweezil on November 23, 2010, 06:07:39 PM
Posting Pics for anybody who wants to comment on scar and LHR of grafts and such.

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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Dweezil on November 23, 2010, 06:13:18 PM
Well Kokyman thanks for your help and now that you see the pics if you had to put a percentage on the improvement of the scar without the shadow what do you think it would be? Not to mention my loss is really low and shadow is very dark so even without the scar its not the coolest look one could hope for.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on November 23, 2010, 06:30:58 PM
Personally, if I was you, the first thing  I'd look up is how to reduce scar.

I definately believe, that there MUST be some kind of procedure which would take out excessive scar tissue, and connect lines together with much subtler stitches. Especially if you live in US, probably they have some advanced clinic for scar reparation of any kind.

After I've done max on that field, only then would I go for further improvements in reducing dark shadow. It will definately help to balance the contrast between 100%-haired area and pale skin, which is scarred. If sucessful, it would be in my estimation a tremendous improvement. But here, obviously no-one can guarantee successes with LHR on head.

Not enough pics, research... not only here, but on the whole Internet!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Dweezil on November 23, 2010, 07:22:03 PM
Yeah my scar HAS been revised. I have had three big pieces of scalp removed so the butchers could chop em up and redistribute them. Essentially there is no laxity in my scalp due to the amount removed so if the scar was excised and closed again ithere would be a very good chance of it stretching back eventually. And then theres the healing process wheres its all red and knarly and like i said will probably stretch again. So Im not really interested in being cut again I dont expect to ever look like a  fresh head before the well marketed butchers got me. Im Just lookin for an improvement and perhaps somethin that doesnt jump out at ya. One of my biggest issues is I dont have any trust in medical professionals. Thats why Im trying to get some independent verification on some of these ideas. Its been my experience that a good portion of "doctors" who do cosmetic procedures are souless money hungry freaks who will sell their fellow man out for a few pieces of silver. There are some god docs out there but Im leary of any procedure that  is heavily marketed.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on November 23, 2010, 08:26:37 PM
I completely understand you, that you don't have any trust in "doctors" anymore. Me neither, I've had my own share of misery, but on another field. I was completely impotent for years, as a result of 1-month intake of mr.satan's pill, finasteride. So I get you, man.

However, I believe that this laser hair removal doesn't have any real dangers in terms of what can go wrong. The worst thing is that after a couple of treatments your shadow looks like a fucking leopard pattern, but then after more, and more, and more treatments it will all be gone.

And if IPL doesn't work, YAG laser must. If YAG doesn't work, there are others.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Dweezil on November 24, 2010, 10:26:13 AM
Well Kokyman seems like as you have pointed out this particular thread is kinda dead and perhaps I wont get much more insight into this idea. I do however very much appreciate your opinions. Sorry to hear about your issues. Despite being follicullarly challenged your a good looking kid with a good look so not having lead in your pencil because of a drug is a definite mind @#$% as you  should have no issues gettin some.

I will remind you, although I understand its essentially useless. Your still better looking and in most ways probably better of then at least 98% of Humanity. Its all relative but just think how fast I would trade scalps with you. I know this type of talk does little for our own personal battles but its all i got to offer.

Good luck and thanks again.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on November 28, 2010, 07:07:13 PM
That scar is actually not that bad.  It looks like you have about a days' worth of stubble; if you get a closer shave it will probably blend in a little better.  A dermatologist can advise you on the dermabrasion procedures that are available to further minimize the appearance of the scar.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chgobuzzbald on November 29, 2010, 01:09:27 AM
Have you lookd into micro tatooing ? Google Artistry Hair Concepts Hair Replication in FLorida for guys who hav had HT scars done there. I am planning to go there for  mine in fact. have done Pixel Laser to smooth it out first.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on November 29, 2010, 02:20:47 PM

I thought I'd give an update regarding my laser Hair Removal so far. I've only had one treatment and a touch up for missed spots. But I can tell you what I've learned. I did a lot of research prior to starting this. as all you know, not to many people have posted long term results. Unfortunately, the technology hasn't been out that long to warrant it. I'v spoken to a few guys that had it done 4-5 yrs ago and they're happy with results they have even sent me pictures and updates.. Every person is different and there's a lot of variables that can alter outcome, so do your own research. As you know the laser ONLY works on dark hair. It does NOT work on light, gray, red, blond, very thin or fine hair. SO, the hair that it'll effect is the dark brown-black that are also med-thick hairs. You also have to take into account the tech's skill, the laser being used, your skin tone, hormone levels. 

From what I've read, hair grows in three different stages and can only be KILLED in the 1st stage (growth stage) when the follicle is attached to the blood supply. In the 2nd stage it's separating from the supply, and 3rd its just dormant. After the 3rd it starts over. The whole cycle takes 4-6 weeks depending on location. Different hairs will be at different stages at any given point, So only those in stage 1 will be effected. On top of that, there are also follicles that can be newly activated. This is why it takes many session to get it done.

The verdict is still out on if it actually kills the hair or damages it more and more just delaying growth. I can tell you that i had a SMALL spot done on neck 15yrs ago that never grew back. But for a full beard or head, results could be different. The guys I spoke to had similar results after a cpl yrs. Most if not all the dark thick hair has NOT grown back, BUT they did get a small amount of thin light peach fuzz growth that still had to be shaven every 3-6 days.  No shadow, just was able to see the hairs when light hits it.

What to expect. It HURTS, feels like a propane torch to your head. I got 25% coverage, or more of tats all over, and this hurt with the best of them. Areas with less hair hurt less. After treatment it feels like a bad sunburn for a few days (red) with some minor swelling. A bit painful to the touch. Hair looks to be growing, but it ain't. It's shedding at a slower rate then reg growth. The hairs are also fried, so shaving is a bit tougher for a few days. If you thought you had a few grays... SURPRISE... when the dark ones shed, there was a 1000 grays hiding in there. You'll also see the grays right after the session since they continue to grow normally as the others don't. After about 1-2 wks, all the dark hairs shed. Here you will see what areas where missed (if any). With me a few were, So had to go back for a touch up. INSIST on "overlapping" or you will get the "island" "leopard" look. Even with overlapping, she missed a few spots. So make sure they do the touch ups at no charge.

It's been 5 wks, and I'm now starting to see the dark hairs to come in. Remember, even though they all shed, only the ones in stage 1 die. And even out of all of those, some might just be temporally damaged. SO expect 10-12 sessions if not more. Spread them out 4-6wk apart (see what your own grow pattern is) You are throwing money away if going in for a session before the new cycle of hair came in. This can be very expensive. I paid $1,800 up front for 4 sessions of everything above the shoulders besides goatee. So in short, I'm about 80% convinced that it is permanent. Only time will tell. I know I'll need electrolysis to get those grays and very thin hairs. If you think you're going to do it, the sooner the better, less grays to have to pay for with electrolysis. It is difficult to give updates since true results will only be seen in years to come. I can tell you something is happening. It take me 3-4 min to shave full head and beard when it use to take me 30min or so. Even though my grays are showing more, my face has a more youthful appearance without the dark shadow. It is a gamble I'm taking, but with all the technology growing and changing, I hope if this don't work, they'll come out with something that will in the next few yrs. In the mean time I'll have less shadow, and shave a lot less.

As far as the HT scares one of you has, they seem bad in contrast to the dark hair. But with the shadow gone and maybe a slight tan, I don't think it would be that noticeable.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Dweezil on December 07, 2010, 03:45:35 AM
Razor X,Those pictures are essentially right after I shave. Cant really get any closer without irratating the scar( have nicked scar ridges a few times trying to get closer) and surrounding skin.

chgobuzzbald,As far as micro pigmentation I was turned down by Artistry Concepts. To their credit they didnt think i was a good candidate and said it wasnt for me. I am interested how your scar did with the laser and what kind of improveent you saw though.

Jason66, thanks for the update.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: HeadbladerBob on December 17, 2010, 07:09:32 PM
I would if it existed and the expense was not high

 ;D
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: markc on February 12, 2011, 03:28:10 PM
4 laser hair removal treatments now done, results are great. Shave every 2 days (could go longer but i like the smooth feel) and what grows back really is nothing. Results are great and it takes me less than a minute in the shower now to shave off the very sparse re-growth. Any hair that is growing back looks like it used to be the occasional grey hair which the clinic told me the laser would not treat. The time saved in shaving is great. Takes about 15 minutes each treatment and there are no horrible side effects after, just a pink head for  less than a day. 2 more treatments to go
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fsubar on February 14, 2011, 03:54:48 AM
I completely understand you, that you don't have any trust in "doctors" anymore. Me neither, I've had my own share of misery, but on another field. I was completely impotent for years, as a result of 1-month intake of mr.satan's pill, finasteride. So I get you, man.

However, I believe that this laser hair removal doesn't have any real dangers in terms of what can go wrong. The worst thing is that after a couple of treatments your shadow looks like a f**king leopard pattern, but then after more, and more, and more treatments it will all be gone.

And if IPL doesn't work, YAG laser must. If YAG doesn't work, there are others.

I took Propecia for about a year, some years ago, and yeah it halted my hairloss, but it left me with lasting impotence problems as well. Did your negative effects ever go away? Or did you find a solution?

I have shaved my head for a couple years now, and I am much happier with it than with dealing with minoxidil all the time. I just wish I would have known how bad Propecia would mess me up.

Now with my head shaved, my confidence is up, and I have no problem meeting women. If I had just shaved my head in the first place, I would still have my libido, and be more consistently able to enjoy the great women that life has brought my way.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on February 14, 2011, 12:13:18 PM
I completely understand you, that you don't have any trust in "doctors" anymore. Me neither, I've had my own share of misery, but on another field. I was completely impotent for years, as a result of 1-month intake of mr.satan's pill, finasteride. So I get you, man.

However, I believe that this laser hair removal doesn't have any real dangers in terms of what can go wrong. The worst thing is that after a couple of treatments your shadow looks like a f**king leopard pattern, but then after more, and more, and more treatments it will all be gone.

And if IPL doesn't work, YAG laser must. If YAG doesn't work, there are others.

I took Propecia for about a year, some years ago, and yeah it halted my hairloss, but it left me with lasting impotence problems as well. Did your negative effects ever go away? Or did you find a solution?

I have shaved my head for a couple years now, and I am much happier with it than with dealing with minoxidil all the time. I just wish I would have known how bad Propecia would mess me up.

Now with my head shaved, my confidence is up, and I have no problem meeting women. If I had just shaved my head in the first place, I would still have my libido, and be more consistently able to enjoy the great women that life has brought my way.



p.m.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Larryj357 on March 03, 2011, 07:42:23 AM
All right guys I've read this thread and now I'm taking the plunge this morning. I've been considering this for a couple of years. I have my first session in about an hour. I have to say that Common's experience is what I'm hoping to achieve. We are about the same complexion. I have a 6 session package with 2 years free after that for any new growth in the area. I'm getting my head, front neck, and cheeks done. So I will keep a goat tee. I'm going to take a couple of motrin's to help with the pain. They are using a YAG laser. I'm kind of nervous and excited at the same time. I'm mostly nervous of the pain. Everything else has been discussed at length in this thread. I appreciate everyones advice and questions thus far. I hope to report back in with a decent experience. I was an early adaptor to LASIK and it has been the best investment ever. So I'm hoping for the same outcome now.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on March 03, 2011, 07:50:03 AM

Good luck, Larry!

By the way, $$?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Larryj357 on March 03, 2011, 04:46:19 PM
It was special for $1500 for 6 sessions and $35 per session after that for 2 years.

Going in was nervous and I walked releaved. They used the Candela YAG with the cooling spray. There policy is start out on setting 6 to prevent any problems. I was told that she will double it every session until 30 and use that until we are done. First let me say the believe it or not that cooling spray makes a difference. Not sure if it's the different sensation or the cool wet feeling. She stated out with my front neck and it was a little painful, but more annoying than unbearable. Then she went to my face and the
 Scalp. I shaved my head against the grain and I didn't on my neck. I said that to say it didn't hurt at all on my head. It was so simple and easy to be honest. She did all 3 areas with 15% overlap with in about 45 minutes. I took the Motrin and didn't use any topical creams. Next session will be a good test to see if the higher setting makes any difference on the scalp as far as pain is concerned. There was no pain afterwards and no visible marks. I really don't feel like anything has been done. Again with the lower setting this could be different next time. I will make a point to shave against the grain under my neck to get a much close shave and see if that makes a difference as far as pain. If all the session go this smooth I will be very happy. I hope my experience helps someone else out.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on March 04, 2011, 03:15:30 PM
It was special for $1500 for 6 sessions and $35 per session after that for 2 years.

Going in was nervous and I walked releaved. They used the Candela YAG with the cooling spray. There policy is start out on setting 6 to prevent any problems. I was told that she will double it every session until 30 and use that until we are done. First let me say the believe it or not that cooling spray makes a difference. Not sure if it's the different sensation or the cool wet feeling. She stated out with my front neck and it was a little painful, but more annoying than unbearable. Then she went to my face and the
 Scalp. I shaved my head against the grain and I didn't on my neck. I said that to say it didn't hurt at all on my head. It was so simple and easy to be honest. She did all 3 areas with 15% overlap with in about 45 minutes. I took the Motrin and didn't use any topical creams. Next session will be a good test to see if the higher setting makes any difference on the scalp as far as pain is concerned. There was no pain afterwards and no visible marks. I really don't feel like anything has been done. Again with the lower setting this could be different next time. I will make a point to shave against the grain under my neck to get a much close shave and see if that makes a difference as far as pain. If all the session go this smooth I will be very happy. I hope my experience helps someone else out.

Congratulations on your first session! Tell us how it goes after 2-3 weeks when the hair is supposed to fall...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on March 04, 2011, 03:39:57 PM
go for it; but be warned...its not a perfect science.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on March 04, 2011, 03:52:07 PM
go for it; but be warned...its not a perfect science.

In terms of pain?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on March 04, 2011, 07:42:56 PM
go for it; but be warned...its not a perfect science.

In terms of pain?

In terms of results.  Rarely does it result in 100% hair loss.  Whatever hair proves to be resistant to the laser is usually not cosmetically acceptable because it tends to be very patchy.  That means that you are left with no choice but to shave daily.  No getting lazy and skipping the odd day.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on March 05, 2011, 01:46:07 AM

If it's done correctly, then it can't be patched in the long run. Patchy hairloss is a result of poor tehnician and/or settings of the laser.
If 1 of your hair is not resistant to laser, then it means that all hair is not resistant, too.
Unless they are white/grey.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on March 05, 2011, 10:52:11 AM
correct..in terms of success. thats why I have advised people (privately via e-mail) not to consider lasering the entire scalp without knowing that you still may have to shave periodically.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on March 05, 2011, 11:31:05 AM
correct..in terms of success. thats why I have advised people (privately via e-mail) not to consider lasering the entire scalp without knowing that you still may have to shave periodically.

Considering the fact that greys will also remain, you would have to shave in each case scenario... along with occasional peach fuzz.

But the fact that the dark shadow is gone or diminished to minimum, makes the money worth of it, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on March 05, 2011, 12:41:44 PM

Considering the fact that greys will also remain, you would have to shave in each case scenario... along with occasional peach fuzz.

But the fact that the dark shadow is gone or diminished to minimum, makes the money worth of it, in my opinion.

It's not just the greys.  A lot of people have more than one hair color.  The hair can be mostly dark but there can be a lot of blond or red hairs mixed in.  Those can be more resistant to the laser.  And that may or may not be a significant amount of hair, depending on the person. Also, no matter what they tell you, some of the hair does grow back eventually.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on March 05, 2011, 01:06:54 PM

Considering the fact that greys will also remain, you would have to shave in each case scenario... along with occasional peach fuzz.

But the fact that the dark shadow is gone or diminished to minimum, makes the money worth of it, in my opinion.

It's not just the greys.  A lot of people have more than one hair color.  The hair can be mostly dark but there can be a lot of blond or red hairs mixed in.  Those can be more resistant to the laser.  And that may or may not be a significant amount of hair, depending on the person. Also, no matter what they tell you, some of the hair does grow back eventually.

I agree with the non-black hair statement - I forgot about it. Razor, how many treatments have you had?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on March 05, 2011, 01:24:42 PM
I haven't had it done on my scalp.  I had my back, shoulders and chest done about four years ago.  I had way too much hair on my chest -- a combination of black, red, blond and some scattered greys.  The laser took care of the really dark hairs, and gave me about an 80% reduction, which is about what I'd been told to expect.

For a long time afterwards, the remaining hair had an odd pattern -- you could easily see the "lines" from the laser.  That wasn't a problem on the chest, but I'd have been very unhappy if I'd had that on my head.  Some of the hair has grown back and it looks more natural now.  No one would ever be able to tell that I'd had it done, except if they compared some before and after photos.

It was worth having done, because I was never comfortable with that overabundance of chest hair -- which was very wiry and prickly.  But I never got 100% hair free, which I would have liked to have done.  I can only assume that scalp hair, which is generally thicker than body hair, would be more difficult to remove.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on March 05, 2011, 03:56:24 PM
I haven't had it done on my scalp.  I had my back, shoulders and chest done about four years ago.  I had way too much hair on my chest -- a combination of black, red, blond and some scattered greys.  The laser took care of the really dark hairs, and gave me about an 80% reduction, which is about what I'd been told to expect.

For a long time afterwards, the remaining hair had an odd pattern -- you could easily see the "lines" from the laser.  That wasn't a problem on the chest, but I'd have been very unhappy if I'd had that on my head.  Some of the hair has grown back and it looks more natural now.  No one would ever be able to tell that I'd had it done, except if they compared some before and after photos.

It was worth having done, because I was never comfortable with that overabundance of chest hair -- which was very wiry and prickly.  But I never got 100% hair free, which I would have liked to have done.  I can only assume that scalp hair, which is generally thicker than body hair, would be more difficult to remove.

But how many sessions have you had on your chest? If it was only one, or 2-3, it's impossible to get hair-free state.
Also, around 8-10 is an average number of sessions that is needed for substantial results, maybe even 2-3 more for some people.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on March 05, 2011, 03:57:18 PM

But how many sessions have you done on chest? If it was only one, or 2-3, it's impossible to get hair-free state.
Also, around 8-10 is an average number of sessions that is needed for substantial results, maybe even 2-3 more for some people.

It was about 7 or 8 sessions; I don't remember exactly.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on March 05, 2011, 04:08:49 PM

But how many sessions have you done on chest? If it was only one, or 2-3, it's impossible to get hair-free state.
Also, around 8-10 is an average number of sessions that is needed for substantial results, maybe even 2-3 more for some people.

It was about 7 or 8 sessions; I don't remember exactly.

Well, if you have had an 80% reduction on your chest, like you said, I think it's actually substantial improvement.

Also, the fact that hair on the head is coarser, doesn't have to mean that it's more difficult to remove, actualy it can be opposite - because dark area is larger, and the laser targets it more easily. However, it is significantly denser than body hair, and that's when problems (and number of sessions) start. So far, Common and Jason66 have been the most succesfull cases here, at least based on their own reports.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: JAT1980 on March 05, 2011, 10:02:52 PM
I just joined the site today after viewing this topic and others for quite some time.  I really love this site.  I have some of the same problems/questions that many others have.  Just some background...  I am 30 and have been losing my hair since I was 17ish.  I have been shaving for about 7 years now and love it.  i wish I would have just done this when I first starting losing.  Instead I got HT done at 21.  I now have a scar to deal with as well.  I actually did talk to a plastic surgeon (referred to me by a doctor friend) to see what could be done about the scar.  He basically said that there wasn't anything that could be done to the actual scar.  Mine is basically as flat as you can get it so dermabrasion won't do anything.  And its not think enough to have it restiitched.  So he actually said that I might want to try getting the laser hair removal done to minimize the appearance.  I was wondering as well from Marty how the scar looks with the Laser Hair Removal.  I am hoping that this is a good solution for me.  I am newly self employed and as such have not been making the boat loads of cash I was hoping to make yet.  So I don't have the money for the treatments yet.  I bought a epilator and tried tweezing........Yeah that's not going to happen.  It hurt and didn't really do anything.  Well anyways, that is my story and two cents.  Marty I would love to hear your thoughts on the scar area after the LHR.  Thanks!!!! 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: caldinger on March 15, 2011, 12:44:17 PM
Hey. Im 22 and have been shaving my head for about 3 years. I started noticing my hair thining at around age 17. I started shaving my face at 15. I hav thick, coarse light brown hair on my face and thick fine hair on my head (about 20% loss on the top) at least I think I do. I haven't seen my hair in years. Shaving us painful and annoying. Even with a fresh razor I still get really bad razor burn on the back corners of my head. irritation on my neck and jaw line. And constant in grown hairs on my neck. I've had it. I can't shave every day or even every other day. Too painful and messy. I am joining police academy in about 8 months. They are very strict with the no facial hair policy. As are police departments for uniformed officers. It would be awesome YO never have to shave everyday for my schooling and future career. I love being bald. I will be baldy whole life. (that's going to be a lot of razors.) comets removal is the way I wanna go. I just saw on Good Morning America this morning an at home laser hai removal kit. (sassan. Dream come true. Thanks u for the advances in modern science)
I want to get everyones expert opinions.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on March 31, 2011, 10:51:41 AM
WOW LarryJ357..... that's a great price. I'm getting the same areas done (full head, neck and beard leaving a goatee) and the best price (same laser) I got was 4 sessions at $1,800. They don't offer free or discounts after that either.

As far as pain... everyone has different pain tolerance, And I consider myself in the normal range (I've gotten tattoos on neck, ribs, chest, back, palm of hand, full arm sleeve including under arm / 20% body covered) They ALL hurt, some just a tiny bit, others like hell...  But the laser was pure torture. The laser's was set at 22, And I've had 4 full sessions and a follow up session 2 wks after each one.

I do get the spots, but that's the areas that were missed, once zapped with the follow up, Spots are gone, and it's all pretty even. The few grays do continue to grow, but beard is a lot less noticeable.  My bears was maybe 5% gray.

If you can see the lines/pattens/circles,,, the laser hit, then they are not over lapping correct. any hair that is not effected by the laser would not grow back in any type of patten. They would grow in sporadically  and would kinda look normal.

Good luck... I wish I got your deal... And maybe even your pain tolarance...lol...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Larryj357 on April 05, 2011, 08:15:43 AM
Well its been close to a month and I thought I'd give some feedback. First and foremost I didn't get an all bald period. I jus got some big plugs with no hair. When my hear grows back on my head it looks like I have some skin disease. Shaving makes everything look ok. Shaving seems a lot easier and time is cut down to almost half. I don't notice a difference at all on my face and neck to be honest. If I paid for a set amount of sessions I would be pissed. I was told tha they start out at the lowest setting and double it every visit. So I'll be at 12 when I go back and I'm sure it will have better results and have more pain as well. What I did notice is the closer the shave the less pain.

I also made a mistake on the warranty. It's $35 per visit for 2 years after the first 6. I still think it's good and feel okay with the slow progress to the higher laser settings. The tech said that this will ensure that when we get to he higher settings it will be less hair equalling less pain. The deal is too good to complain at this point.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: xnewyawka on April 05, 2011, 03:16:27 PM
It's all a bunch o' BS, you guys are wasting your money and time.    :/O
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: RickkyJ on April 05, 2011, 07:11:29 PM
Well its been close to a month and I thought I'd give some feedback. First and foremost I didn't get an all bald period. I jus got some big plugs with no hair. When my hear grows back on my head it looks like I have some skin disease. Shaving makes everything look ok. Shaving seems a lot easier and time is cut down to almost half. I don't notice a difference at all on my face and neck to be honest. If I paid for a set amount of sessions I would be pissed. I was told tha they start out at the lowest setting and double it every visit. So I'll be at 12 when I go back and I'm sure it will have better results and have more pain as well. What I did notice is the closer the shave the less pain.

I also made a mistake on the warranty. It's $35 per visit for 2 years after the first 6. I still think it's good and feel okay with the slow progress to the higher laser settings. The tech said that this will ensure that when we get to he higher settings it will be less hair equalling less pain. The deal is too good to complain at this point.

Larry, your tech has it all wrong. You have to go with the highest possible setting that you can tolerate. It has to hurt like hell. If it did not hurt like hell you are not going to see much hair shedding. Your tech's theory that when you get to the higher setting there will be less hair unfortunately is not true because the low settings will not cause much of the hair to fall out. Very aggressive settings gives you a better chance to kill most of the hair in your first three visits. If after the first month you did not get much shedding and you have patches all over your head, you should get a touch up at no charge. Laser work on the face and head is an art. Overlapping and high settings will get you great results.  What laser are they using?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on April 05, 2011, 08:23:55 PM
I'm in agreement with Rickky... I'm doing the same areas and it HURT,,, also had 90% shedding and 100% after the (no charge) touch up... at every session. I was started at 22. I just had my 4th at 26, My tech goes up a bit every couple of sessions. She also (at every session does a small spot first to See how the skin reacts, she said she can tell if the hair is being effected by the reaction and will go up a bit if needed ...(???)

Maybe it is "BS... but I do know that I get no growth for a few weeks after each session and only the F'n grays have to be shaven,, and that takes 3min (head/face) when it use to take me 30-45,,,, So I took the chance... no turning back now... 

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Larryj357 on April 07, 2011, 09:40:40 AM
I go back for my next session on Monday. I will man up and strongly suggest we start out at 22 at a minimum. I can barely tell I have had any laser treatmets except for some patches. I'll let you know how bad it was next week.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Larryj357 on April 11, 2011, 02:07:24 PM
Well I had my second session today. I spoke to the nurse about going up to 22 and she stuck by the company line about only gradually going up to prevent any burning. So I agreed and decided to follow the program to a tee so I can see if it actually works or not.

I decided to shave 1 hour before my appointment so it could be no hair at all. I shaved all areas against the grain to ensure it was close as possible to help prevent any pain. She set the laser to 12. The pain was definitely more than last time. The pain isn't unbearable if it was like just one zap, but when you get a few of them in a row that crap really hurts. I could smell the hair burning this time. There was no way in hell I could have done 22 as my setting today. The plan is to go up to about 16 or so next session. I am considering getting the numbing cream depending on how much hair falls out this time. Last time I only got a 5% overall hair loss. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on April 11, 2011, 04:50:34 PM
youre supposed to leave is short when they laser, not shaved.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on April 13, 2011, 01:00:20 PM
lol... I knew something was up when you said it didn't hurt.... Mine was up to 26 on my 4th session and had a great reaction (full shed) right after. so the higher the setting the better the results... It does all depend on skin tone, So maybe your tech it correct on your case. Better safe then burnt.

Every laser is different, I happen to be using the same one as you had mentioned. NOTHING will stop the pain... but follow the advice of others to help "a bit"... take a pain killer (Tylenol) 30 min b4, if you can get it Emla cream (put it on 1/2 hr b4 & Saran wrap it to keep it moist), They'll wash it off there. No coffee (caffeine) 2-3hrs b4 session, shave an hr or so b4 session and you can ice it down a bit after also. My tech uses a ice cold towel she puts against the spot right after each zap that helps to. I remembered to do this 1 out of 4 times and it does make a diff. Once you get to the higher settings, you will be thinking about this post right after the 1st ZAP...

good luck to ya...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Larryj357 on May 03, 2011, 08:32:32 PM
Well a quick update, I have had a dramatic amount of success on this last session. It was more than twice as much as last time. So I am feeling better and better about the sessions going up in increments.

I am currently in Cancun and trying to limit my sun exposure and using SPF 50 sun block. Do any one know how long after I get back should I wait before my next treatment?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on May 04, 2011, 08:34:49 AM
Good move on the SPF 50 sun block.  Wear a hat too.

I don't think you need to worry about sun exposure before treatments, only after treatments.  So, you should get your next treatment four weeks after your last session.

Good luck!

Well a quick update, I have had a dramatic amount of success on this last session. It was more than twice as much as last time. So I am feeling better and better about the sessions going up in increments.

I am currently in Cancun and trying to limit my sun exposure and using SPF 50 sun block. Do any one know how long after I get back should I wait before my next treatment?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on May 04, 2011, 01:46:58 PM
long time COmmon...good to see ya back!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on May 04, 2011, 01:48:15 PM
from what Ive heard, you need 3-4 weeks after scalp sun exposure before you're allowed a treatment.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on May 09, 2011, 05:02:32 PM
Great that you're having better results with the power increase Larry. Soon enough you'll be at a level where you'll have a full shedding... then they'll do that a couple of times until it doesn't have that much as an effect, then they'll increase the power again.

As far as sun tanning. Like with all the other variables, it's all dependant on the individual. Laser has almost the same effect to your skin as sun exposure. For me, I'm kinda on the lighter side so I have to limit my sun exposure 10days-2wks before AND after each session. Remember laser works on melanin...

If the sun exposure darkened your skin tone, the laser level might have to be adjusted. I would let the tech know if I did just so that they can take the necessary precautions. One might be at their max level for their skin tone, and now risking a burn.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: v on May 23, 2011, 08:09:51 PM
I'm 21 and have been steadily losing my hair since I was about 18-years-old.  I think about my MPB every day and it is one of, if not the most major stressor in my life.  Ever since I realized that I was losing my hair, I have been contemplating solutions.  Initially, I thought about a hair transplant, but after doing a bit of research, it seems that the results aren't guaranteed and I really don't want to take a risk and spend a ton of money to end up disappointed.  Now, I am heavily considering getting all of my scalp hair and facial hair removed.  Over the past few years I have come to embrace the shaved look and think that I have the bone structure to pull it off.  While I have never shaven my hair to the skin, I have shaven it very low and I quite enjoy the way I look.  I have lost all of the hair at my temples and the hair at the top of my head is rapidly thinning.  I would say I only have about 35-40% of the hair on the top of my head left.  The hair on the back and sides of my head is a different story.  I have dark brown hair and it is very thick and grows very fast in the back and on the sides, making my balding crown and top very noticeable.  

I am currently in graduate school and don't think I am financially stable enough at the moment to get the procedure done, but I contemplate it every day and definitely plan on pursuing it in the next couple of years.  Since the hair on the back and sides of my head has not stopped growing and shows no signs of thinning, I wonder if this will be detrimental to getting laser hair removal on my entire head/face.  My goal is to have absolutely no signs of hair or shadow on my scalp.  How much should I anticipate paying?  And how long should I expect to wait before my head is completely hairless?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on May 25, 2011, 09:01:32 AM
You should consider shaving for awhile before doing something as radical as laser hair removal.  I would estimate that you're talking about a minimum of 12-16 months and $1500 to remove the hair on your head and perhaps an additional $1500 to remove the hair on your face.  And a lot of pain.

I'm 21 and have been steadily losing my hair since I was about 18-years-old.  I think about my MPB every day and it is one of, if not the most major stressor in my life.  Ever since I realized that I was losing my hair, I have been contemplating solutions.  Initially, I thought about a hair transplant, but after doing a bit of research, it seems that the results aren't guaranteed and I really don't want to take a risk and spend a ton of money to end up disappointed.  Now, I am heavily considering getting all of my scalp hair and facial hair removed.  Over the past few years I have come to embrace the shaved look and think that I have the bone structure to pull it off.  While I have never shaven my hair to the skin, I have shaven it very low and I quite enjoy the way I look.  I have lost all of the hair at my temples and the hair at the top of my head is rapidly thinning.  I would say I only have about 35-40% of the hair on the top of my head left.  The hair on the back and sides of my head is a different story.  I have dark brown hair and it is very thick and grows very fast in the back and on the sides, making my balding crown and top very noticeable.  

I am currently in graduate school and don't think I am financially stable enough at the moment to get the procedure done, but I contemplate it every day and definitely plan on pursuing it in the next couple of years.  Since the hair on the back and sides of my head has not stopped growing and shows no signs of thinning, I wonder if this will be detrimental to getting laser hair removal on my entire head/face.  My goal is to have absolutely no signs of hair or shadow on my scalp.  How much should I anticipate paying?  And how long should I expect to wait before my head is completely hairless?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on May 25, 2011, 09:18:40 AM
I agree with Common.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on May 26, 2011, 09:30:30 AM
I also agree.... and as stated... those numbers are minimums... My $$ numbers are a lot higher.. I'm looking at $2,500 head, $2,500 face .... NOT including the electrolysis for the grays or hairs too light to laser. That's another $500-$1,000....  spread out to about 18 months...

But if you are set on doing it.... Do it before the grays start... It'll save you on time, money and pain..
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on May 26, 2011, 11:01:13 AM
Jason: please post a pic when u can.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on June 15, 2011, 08:19:13 PM
Unfortunately a picture doesn't really show any progress. I don't go long enough without a treatment to actually see true outcome. I would have to go 6mths to a year in order to see what has been permanently affected. It is great being able to go a few days w/o shaving.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on June 15, 2011, 08:25:49 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Blitzed on June 16, 2011, 06:36:55 AM
Laser hair removal carries with it a a modest potential for scarring. It's also a procedure that often needs to be repeated in selected areas as the follicle was not killed and hair grows back. This is just a personal thought but...I'd hesitate a long time before I had my facial hair removed. Look around, many men like a bald hair and a beard. If you've had your facial hair removed that possibility is also removed.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on June 16, 2011, 10:03:43 AM
I think anyone that has gotten into the laser, has given it a lot of thought fist considering the time it takes, pain involved and cost. I much rather give up the slight "possibility" of wanting a full beard with a bald head some time in the furture, for the convenience of not having to shave for weeks at a time NOW. On top of that, most that also included the beard, kept the goatee as I am doing.

MARTY... I have no clue how to post a pic on this... I've tried and don't seem to get it.... let me know how, and I'll show you what I'm talking about...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on June 16, 2011, 12:11:27 PM
send your pic to tyler...he will help u, like he did for me in the begining.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on June 16, 2011, 07:43:57 PM
testing this out to see if they show up...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on June 16, 2011, 07:53:07 PM
that 1st one was after 5 sessions at 4 days growth


the one below is what I use to have at 4 days growth.. same results on head.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: skinhead002 on June 19, 2011, 12:29:04 PM
I would love to be permanently and completely bald. In fact, another officer I work with, and who is a long time head shaver, has said the same thing to me. The aspect of laser treatment that I dont like is the time. Additionally, I sort of like shaving the dome every morning. Getting rid of the last bit of shadow I have would be outstanding.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Larryj357 on June 22, 2011, 07:23:36 AM
Well I've had my 4th session a week ago and I'm really happy with my results thus far. I still have some hair on my head, but it is about 85% gone. It takes me less than 10 minutes to shave. The hair on my face is pretty much gone I would say 95%. The highest setting we've used is 18 and I have no idea how some of you started out at say 22. If the rate of fallout continues over my next 2 treatments I think I will be very happy with the hole experience. I will say that once it is 95% all gone the difference is going to be amazing. You can see the difference of how the hard looks shaved very close and no hair at all. No hair is way better. I understand you guys like to shave and I'm sure after a package of 6 you will need to shave a little every now and then, but I think this will be money well spent. As a black guy, the razor bumps under my neck are all gone and my face feels and looks so much better. I have a few grays that pop out in my face every now and then so I will probably have to shave once a week or so for about 2 mins to stay clean..... If you're considering doing this for razor bumps I say do it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on June 22, 2011, 08:56:12 AM
Larry,
Glad things going good for you. But keep in mind that because of growth stages... If you was to go a few months without treatment, a lot more hair might resurface. For me, it's at about 8-10 wks when I notice more hair starting to surface. I've had 5 sessions and 5 follow ups. (my tech re-zaps about 50% of it at about 2wks after each session). I love my results and it is well worth it even if I just keep current results.

And Yeah... I'm still at 26 (started at 22) and even with the Emla cream, it's HURTS... During treatment I'm almost ready to pay her double just to stop. I had a touch up two days ago, and my head still hurts to the touch. 

A lot had to do with skin I think... I'm "white" like a level 2.5 on the scale they use, (sun burn all the time) with bark brown hair (& the damn grays) and have had diff results as my wife. She's Black w dark brown-black hair and got great results on just one treatment at level 16. She got the back of her neck hair line done (kitchen) once, and it never grew back. I WISH I could be at 16 with only a couple of treatments. But as  see it, my beard prob only needs a cpl more, but head might need a total of 10-12 (not including touch ups).

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Larryj357 on June 22, 2011, 01:47:40 PM
I used the EMLA cream for the first time on my last session and you're not lying. It still hurt. It wasn't horrible, but I was hoping to numb the pain. Next time I will put a saran wrap around my head to see if that works. I am going about 5-6 weeks between treatments. I will be going on vacation in S. America for 6 months after my last treatment and I get a 2 year follow up so I will know what is needed when I get back from my trip.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on June 22, 2011, 06:28:45 PM
The cream just keeps the tears from dropping lol. But better then nothing. Wrapping it makes a big diff. IF not, it dries up and then loses it effect. With the wrap., it keeps it moist and continues to penetrate the skin. The times I remember to do it, it works best 40min prior to session and have them wipe it off. I throw a baseball cap or a scully over it until I get there.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: S L I C K E R on July 02, 2011, 09:32:21 PM
Skin color/pigment question after lasering:
I have approximately 10 laser treatments done on my scalp over a 3 year period   Although the dark hair is mostly gone, you can still notice a different skin color (lighter) where the hair used to be.  Has anyone else had this experience with laser hair removal on the scalp.  If so, any tis on how to even the skin color from.  Can the laser hair removal lighten the pigment of the skin on the scalp?  I have tried tanning, with no luck.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on July 05, 2011, 07:39:09 AM
I'm not as advances in sessions as you are since I've only had 5. Besides me intentionally not exposing my scalp to the sun, I haven't notice any change. My scalp has always been slightly lighter, but again due to a lack of sun. It might take a while for your head to get to the rest of you. Remember, you're face is also getting exposure....
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Hook'Em on July 06, 2011, 09:58:12 AM
My scalp where the little island used to be on the front is much lighter in pigment. I think i'm the only one that notices though. Has nothing to do with lasers though, just the way i was born.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mattyoh on July 08, 2011, 04:20:46 PM
1) Laser hair removal is not actually a laser.
2) The depth of the pulsed light does not reach your brain.
3) Laser hair removal has been around for upwards to 40 years with no cancer resulting from the treatment
4) The best lasers are the alexandrite and the Yag laser

I personally have been receiving treatments for the past few months. I have been very well informed on the lasers. I ask a lot of questions and have access to dermatologist friends and medical esthetician friends. So I started out using the alexandrite laser.

The alexandrite laser hurts more. It is only good for people with fair skin and dark hair pigment.
You must shave your head prior to treatment. It will leave you looking suburnt. The skin surrounding the follicle will be slightly raised and inflamed similar to that of a goosebump. Nothing very noticible. The only problem I had with that was that it was impossible to shave your head until the 14 days that it took for  all of the hair to fall out. Also the hair fell out in patches as oppose to all at the same time. Hence the problem I had with the look for the 14 day interim. It is also very important to get a loofa poof to exfoliate daily so the hair sheds and doesnt get stuck in the follicle causing a kind of whitehead looking thing.

The YAG laser is a piece of cake compared to the alexandrite. You do not need to shave first. I had about 1/18 mm growth about a days worth (rough to the touch) It is louder but it hurts half as much on max and it does not inflame your scalp skin like the other one does. Also it has the benefit of getting deeper into the follicle wiping the pigment permanently from the hair so you dont have a shadow. It doesnt need to be shaved and it will shed much quicker not resulting in a smooth head look the moment you leave the appointment. You can shave the now colorless hair for a smooth feel as soon as it is done. It will fall out in a few days and you need treatments about once a month or so.  You def need to exfoliate though.
to avoid the whitehead result.


I love the YAG! Its the best ...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mattyoh on July 15, 2011, 11:16:42 AM
In my last post I spoke about my experience with YAG and Alexandrite Lasers. I have been doing further research on available treatment options. I travel a lot with work so being able to use the same type of laser has me in search of a tech that has the laser I have been using. I had four alexandrite and one YAG. I was impressed initially but the YAG. However, I was not impressed by the lack of efficiency. So I have found an IPL Tech. After a lot of research. Including calling the manufacturer of the laser being used on my next appointment. I will let you know. Its half the price at 75$ a session so that is a perk.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on July 18, 2011, 12:12:31 PM
In my last post I spoke about my experience with YAG and Alexandrite Lasers. I have been doing further research on available treatment options. I travel a lot with work so being able to use the same type of laser has me in search of a tech that has the laser I have been using. I had four alexandrite and one YAG. I was impressed initially but the YAG. However, I was not impressed by the lack of efficiency.

Hi  Mattyoh!

What was the problem with efficiency with YAG laser?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: badmadt on August 06, 2011, 05:09:06 PM
hi..does laser hair removal work on light skinned people with dark brown hair..looking to find a good clinic in uk..
thanks
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on November 30, 2011, 11:43:09 PM
Reading through this thread and looking at the successful (and not so successful) stories, I'm envious of you guys who went through with this, but I don't think this is the way for me to go at least not now. For one I have two small gashes at the cranium, one that has been present for more than half my life (I'm 39) Secondly I had a massive cyst on the base of my neck several years ago and I had it removed but for a long time it left a dark mark (it has faded slightly). Anyway though I was talking to some of my fellow chrome domes at work and they said that they wouldn't go through with it because of pain tolerance...on a side note I let my remaining hair grow out (for now at least) because I want to see how far my MPB has progressed...If it grows too long, I still have my childhood barber who does my head and face for $10 bucks, not too disastrous given the average haircut where I live is $20-25 bucks anyway.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: D.A.L.U.I. on December 02, 2011, 11:36:08 AM
The thing is that my scalp without sun or sunless tan lotion becomes far to shiny...

I don't know how a scalp gets too shiny :/O  Shine is GOOD.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Acme on December 02, 2011, 10:14:32 PM
My scalp is way too shiny. It's glowing right after I shave and get out of the shower and only gets shinier from there because my skin is oily. I don't use any moisturizers and it's not dry at all (unlike my hands which get very dry). I've tried using toner to take the sheen down on my head but that doesn't work either.

I try a quick wash during the day to get rid of the wet look shine and get it back to plain old shine. THAT's how a scalp can be too shiny.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on December 07, 2011, 11:13:16 PM
I understand that tanning lotions are mostly omega oils, so I wouldn't expect that to be a problem.  Remember that your scalp will probably be very sore for a few days, as if it was burnt.  Anything with alcohol in it will be uncomfortable.  I usually stick to a moisturizer and/or pure aloe during that period.

Seriously, laser hair removal requires short-term sacrifice for long term gain.  I'm surprised that you're so worried about the tanning lotion instead of the tremendous pain.


Saintc and Acme, thanks for your replies!

But indeed I remain with the same question...  :*))

I just love being bald, hence the permanent decision of becoming sly for life. I would just like to know if I could keep applying my beloved lotion during the treatments..  ;D

Cheers and thanks once again for your time
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Itall on December 13, 2011, 09:23:47 PM
Having laser treatments. Going well. Almost no growth at all anymore. Started with an almost full head of hair.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on January 06, 2012, 03:45:14 PM
Hey common could you post some photos of your treatment's progress (if you still have them..)?

If you don't, I would ask you if you could post a recent photo of you, so I can see the final results.

Really appreciate if any other guy would like to show off your dome after the treatment ;)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Arnie on January 09, 2012, 11:26:54 AM
This is my take on any kind of laser treatments...

https://youtu.be/sQ8-qH-lXLU
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: 4fit on January 09, 2012, 01:05:53 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on January 12, 2012, 08:03:10 AM
I haven't been on here for a while. So figured I'd give an update. It's been about a yr (Nov. 2010) since I started the laser hair removal. I have it done on both, head and face (besides goatee). I've had 8 sessions every 6-7 weeks with a touch-up session two week after every session. The touch-up hit spots she may have missed or are a bit more resilient.

So far, since the beginning, the face has had better results. I can go a while without having to shave and even when it does start to grow back, it's very thin. Almost like a teenagers beard prior to ever shaving.

The head is getting results, but a very noticeable difference from the face. There's still a lot that's growing back. It seems to be thinner and weaker then I started out with, and saving it is a lot easier,  But it is there. After a treatment, most of it is in shock, therefore there is a time period that there's very little growth. But after the 5 or so weeks, they start to wake up again and grow. For what ever reason, some are more resilient then others and it's no fault of the tech. I make sure the areas that may have been missed are re-zapped.

So at this point, I do get the spotty look if I let it grow in. Even right after treatment there will be a couple small spots that I'll notice. But again, I'm only on session 8. I knew coming into this that it would be a minimum of 12. YEAH, as expensive and painful as this is, I wished it was ONE, But I was warned by other guys of realistic results. My tech said "probably 8 sessions" YEAH RIGHT, you'll need more. But they are just trying to make their $$. Plus the head is something they normally don't do, and on some locations on the body it does only take 6-8 sessions.

The laser used on me is a Candela GentleYAG Laser. My last touch-up session was at 30 jolts. And it was a Bitc#...! I'm thinking of going back to 28... I think I was stated at 22, and up a couple hear and there. Not sure if that would make a difference, but I'm not sure if I want a full session at 30.

Since I started this, the gray hairs (I didn't know I had as much) are a lot more pronounced. As you know, they are not effected by the laser. So I started electrolysis also, mostly on the face, sideburns, and back or the neck. I also have a bunch on the sides of the head, but those I'll hit at a later time. TOO much to do at once. Electrolysis is also expensive and painful.  And it works on the same principal. The hair is weaken after each session coming back slightly thinner and thinner until it finally gives up. EACH hair has to be individually zapped 10-12 times also. Laser is able to zap a LOT more at a time so in the long run it's actually a lot cheaper.

I've tested it. Since I'm planning on doing my other sleeve (tattoos on arm) I figured I'll thin out the forearm hair a bit. So I Had it lasered, then when it grew back, electrolysis. Laser for one session (one arm) was about $200  and $150 if I paid for 4 sessions up-front and took less then 5 min.  Electrolysis (cheapest in my area) including a discount is $60 hr. and it took over 4 hrs not even hitting every hair. So over 4hrs of pain,  three visits, more then $240 and not as good coverage. So if the hairs are dark, laser is the way to go. I gave up on the are thing.. spending too much $$ on this...

I got a few PM's requesting pictures. The truth of the matter is that the pictures don't say anything. The picture cant pick up the fine hairs. Plus the actual results are not shown. The only picture that's actually worth seeing is of someone that hasn't had any treatment for two years. Hasn't shaven in a few weeks, and a close-up picture with a high definition camera. Other then that, what you'll see is not actual results.

Good Luck guys, Sorry for the long winded post....
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: badmadt on February 10, 2012, 06:27:43 PM
Having laser treatments. Going well. Almost no growth at all anymore. Started with an almost full head of hair.
hi there!! can y give us more details about your removal treatment service/result?
thanks
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on February 15, 2012, 10:01:48 PM
Sorry that I've been away for awhile.  Regarding pics, I think that I posted pics in the thread during the process.  You can find them there.

Jason66's experience is very similar to my own, except that I didn't have spotting after the first four or so treatments.  I had about 10 treatments total, but haven't been back for one in almost a year.  I still have a peach fuzz that becomes noticeable in 3-5 days.  Shaving it is very easy though.

Even after the expense and all that pain, I'm pretty satisfied.  I remember a time that I was always shaving and worrying about shadow.  It's honestly not something that I think about anymore.

Hey common could you post some photos of your treatment's progress (if you still have them..)?

If you don't, I would ask you if you could post a recent photo of you, so I can see the final results.

Really appreciate if any other guy would like to show off your dome after the treatment ;)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: LAGLE on February 16, 2012, 09:52:02 AM
still considering this, common nice dome!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: devonlad on February 16, 2012, 09:57:02 AM
Does  anyone know if there is anywhere in the uk that will do it. Considering having it done if I could find somewhere do it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Leah on March 06, 2012, 11:15:44 AM
 :-[

Hey Guys! I was hoping you could help me out and calm me down....

I'm actually a female who went in for laser removal of my sun spots a week ago. During the session, which was done with Gentlase, my dermatologist SLIPPED and removed about a half dollar portion of my hairline. HOLY CR*P. I have very dark hair on white skin (awesome).

It's now a week later, and the little stubble is falling out. I know from having actual WANTED hair removal on my underarms a few years back that this happens.  I also know that laser only kills the hair in the anagen phase, but unlike other parts of the body up to 90% of head hair is in this phase.....OMG. So, am I going to be bald here permanently????


I'm curious to hear how much hair regrowth you guys had after one session. Please, talk me down from the ledge! Baldness is lovely on men, but I'm a lady, and I want my hair back.  :(

And if, fingers crossed, it does grow back, how much will return and how long will I have to wait?

Thank you so much.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on March 06, 2012, 06:09:07 PM
Hey leah,
I'm on my 10th session... and a yr & 1/2 doing this. Though there's a lot of variables that have to be considered, with only one zap, I think you'll be fine. It takes multiple Zaps (8-12 on the head) to kill it off. Each one making it a bit thinner and weaker, but if left alone it should be back to normal in a cycles or 2. (2-3 mths). Sucks for now, but you'll be as good as new before you know it... good luck... DON"T ZAP THAT SPOT AGAIN...lol..
good luck...   
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Leah on March 07, 2012, 08:20:14 AM
OMG... thank you Jason. I was up all night freaking out.... looking into follicular unit transplants around 4 am in the morning. Uhg.
 :D

Even if just 25% of the spot grows back in I'll be happy.... I just want to fill in the area with a bit of shading.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldnbald on April 02, 2012, 06:20:14 PM
Jason66,

You mentioned that posting pics would be worthless unless it had been years.  I disagree man, one of the main reasons it seems like people are on here is to get rid of the shadow.  So pics of your dome would let us all see what your shadow looks like.  It is the exact thing we are all wondering about.  I have spent the last two days reading through this forum and I have to say with the rare exception its like the first time you look into hair transplants and you get all excited but then you start to realize its all angles and styling and the procedures actually suck.  I have been surprised at the lack of pictures on here.  Granted I haven't had it done but I guess I am hoping to see what I'm gonna be buying.  If its all the same to all of you and its not an embarressment in any way... please just post some freaking pictures.  In the end its why we are all here and reading and hoping to see postive results.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on April 04, 2012, 05:18:48 PM
I hear ya man.. lol...

I just tried taking a cpl with my camera phone but they sucked can't really see anything.... I'll try and get my wife to take a cpl for me with a real camera then post them up in a day or two.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldstu on April 05, 2012, 02:31:09 AM
Be good if it worked devonlad , id be up for it meself , permanently  bald without shaving would be great . I inquired some years about , theyare happy to take your money , 2-3 k but no guarantees , there was a place in London  . Id wanna see proper published evidence that it works before spending , also be verywary about some these folk do they really know whatthey are doin?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: devonlad on April 05, 2012, 04:44:27 AM
Its not that I mind shaving. Would just love to loose the shadow.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldnbald on April 07, 2012, 12:28:20 AM
Jason66,

I appreciate it.  That was my first post and I came off kinda like a prick, sorry.  I was hours into my 2nd day of reading all the posts and different threads and was frustrated by the lack of pictures despite the seemingly dozen or more people that have taken the leap. 

JRod
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on April 08, 2012, 07:50:45 PM
every time I try to post pics this forum guives me a error msg... I'm doing the "additional Options" and "Browse" then adding the pic... then when I hit Post it doesn't show up... A'm I missing something..?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldstu on April 09, 2012, 12:01:07 PM
Dont feel pressurised Jason I am sure there are sorces whichare availiable to demonstrate this as there must be a market for laser therapy on some folk . I have gt a full head of hair which is shaved each day , the only chemical that works  are drugs which are not very  nice for a healthy individual .
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on April 09, 2012, 12:30:10 PM
test
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on April 09, 2012, 12:46:19 PM
This forum just makes it too difficult to post pic... it either states the pic file is too large, or already posted (when it wasn't) or some other error message... Then I have to start all over, even having to find the jubject. I'll be glad to send you pic, but I don't seem to be able to do it here. Send me your e-mail and I'll send them direct... I'll try and ask the Admin of this forum & see why I'm having so many issues.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on April 25, 2012, 09:35:41 AM
I've posted quite a few pics.  My experience is that once you're deep into the process (10+ treatments), what you have left is a fine hair that doesn't really show up in pics.  If you really want to know what it looks like, you should fly into town and buy me a beer or three.

Seriously though, it's been a couple of days since I shaved.  More than a year since my last treatment.  Here's a pic I just walked out and shot on the porch.

(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs16.postimage.org%2Fizs0fohwl%2FIMAG0412.jpg&hash=6f0768b75213c0bfa628f540e3ed6119)

I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: xnewyawka on April 25, 2012, 01:44:08 PM
Waxing or lasering your scalp does not impress me one bit, in fact I just don't get it. You can keep it.
I enjoy my shaving, and quite like having the stubble/buzz choice in between shaves, if I desire it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldstu on April 25, 2012, 01:51:41 PM
I've posted quite a few pics.  My experience is that once you're deep into the process (10+ treatments), what you have left is a fine hair that doesn't really show up in pics.  If you really want to know what it looks like, you should fly into town and buy me a beer or three.

Seriously though, it's been a couple of days since I shaved.  More than a year since my last treatment.  Here's a pic I just walked out and shot on the porch.

(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs16.postimage.org%2Fizs0fohwl%2FIMAG0412.jpg&hash=6f0768b75213c0bfa628f540e3ed6119)

I hope this helps.

Many thanks   common  and curious to know you  have shaved here  so  to some degree it works  I would be happy not to shave  and I am not sure that the  technology is there  yet   to go bald permanently without shaving 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldnbald on April 28, 2012, 12:50:48 AM
Thanks Jason66 and Common,

Pictures do help.  For me its not the act of shaving that I mind, its the shadow and the razor burn in the winter.  Common don't take this wrong man but in your pics you look like a light skin black dude and then that pic of your dome your complection appears a lot lighter, I suppose its the flash.  But yeah your definitely shadow free.  Now see if thats what I was paying for I would book my first appointment tomorrow.  I just need to make sure your not the exception to the rule.

@ Baldchav there actually do not seem to be many resources for this.  I have spent many  hours searching the internet and despite finding plenty of places that "will" do this procedure its painfully obvious that they have little or no experience with this and are not helpful with most of the questions that are presented on this site by real people who are bald, like myself.   

I'm gonna follow this post as well as look for other sources of info and hopefully this will become in demand enough that more people will offer it and the finished product will get better and better.  Thats the beauty of capitalism I guess, if there is a buck to be made someone will find the best way to do it and everyone will go to them.     
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on April 28, 2012, 05:45:31 AM
Waxing or lasering your scalp does not impress me one bit, in fact I just don't get it. You can keep it.
I enjoy my shaving, and quite like having the stubble/buzz choice in between shaves, if I desire it.

Amen!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on April 28, 2012, 08:52:37 PM
I guess everyone has their reasons, opinions or likes. But the lasering in not meant to impress anyone but the person having it done. Many do it to get rid of the "horse shoe" or "toilet seat" (whatever it's called)shadow that's apparent on most even after a good shave. Some prefer not having to shave every day, and be able to go a week or more without dealing with it. Being able to shave in 3min as appose to 30min and "one" razor lasting over a mnth doesn't hurt either. many reasons, but impressing others is not one of them.

For those interested, I'm on my 11th session and have very little shadow (if any) after a shave. And that's good for a few days. After that, a fuzz starts to come in. it's hard to see in pictures unless a high definition camera is used (but unable to load those pic on this forum)  Pictures allowed don't show the detail. I normally go a week to 10 days without shaving and the slight shadow doesn't bother me too much. The hairs that do come in are very fine fuzz type so a razor can last a very long time.

Keep in mind the grays, that's an other issue. So if you are going to do it, do it as soon as you can before the grays start. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: RickkyJ on May 01, 2012, 11:27:48 AM
Waxing or lasering your scalp does not impress me one bit, in fact I just don't get it. You can keep it.
I enjoy my shaving, and quite like having the stubble/buzz choice in between shaves, if I desire it.

Well here is the problem. Not everyone can shave without serious damage to their scalp. It did not matter what I used. Clippers or a razor. The minute I was done I had bumps all over my scalp. My doctor advised me to use only scissors on my scalp and on my face to never shave close to the skin. Needless to say I did not look very good most of the time. I had bumps all over my face and scalp. One year into laser on my face and scalp I have zero bumps and I am very happy abut that. I am not doing this to impress anyone. Most people have all kinds of reasons for doing this. The cost and pain is too much for most to do this without a very personal reason.

Some people can shave without issues and I am happy for you them, but many of us as soon as the clippers touch our face and scalp the result are horrific bumps. There is no need for bumps especially on the face. With laser on your face you can control the amount of hair you want left, and the great thing is it stops the bumps. I don't know how it works, it just does.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldstu on May 01, 2012, 02:20:02 PM
Very valid point Ricky , about the bumps and justifying lasers
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: aweis on May 01, 2012, 03:54:51 PM
I'm in the middle of doing IPL hair removal on my scalp. I've had two sessions so far. And as of yet it's still somewhat patchy, but the progress is looking good. You obviously really have to be sure that you wanna stick with the bald look because there's no turning back. For me it wasn't such a hard decision considering the fact that my hair is permanently damages in many areas making it look patchy even when I shave. If you're still interested, I could keep you posted as my treatments progress.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on May 01, 2012, 06:27:58 PM
keep us informed!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: zetaeffe on May 01, 2012, 06:42:40 PM
If you're still interested, I could keep you posted as my treatments progress.

Yes, please keep us updated!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on May 02, 2012, 09:45:56 AM
Hey Aweis,
Welcome to the "Laser club"... I saw my best results the first 2-3 sessions, then as the hairs become a bit resilient they increase the power level. I just had my 11th session at 32 jolts, and that was the worst one. When I first started at 22 jlts, She said it would hurt less as the hairs decrease... Well, that's true in some parts of the head, but on the parts that still have a good amount, more then make up for it...

I still have 2 more sessions on my package, then I think I'll give it a rest for while.  I knew from other members that it was going to be more then 12 going into this for the results I want, but I'm hoping it's not too many more...

I stopped getting my face done after 8 sessions and go 2-3 weeks without shaving. I could probably go longer, but when the sun hits it, you can see the few thin hairs (and a few grays) kinda long. My goatee grows in perfectly shaped now also.. no shaping needed...

Unfortunately this is the only Forum I have issues adding pic to. I keep getting "Your file is too large. The maximum attachment size allowed is 192 KB". I looked at the pic and it's at 1.2m, If anyone knows how to lower the file size of a pic, please let me know...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldstu on May 02, 2012, 10:29:34 AM
Id def. be interested if the cost in the UK was sensible and they are not charlatans . Please dosend the posts on this
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: xnewyawka on May 02, 2012, 01:55:02 PM
Points taken guys. I realize this does make sense for some of you with skin conditions, issues.
I used the wrong word when I said "impress", it should have been "interest."
I apologize if any offense was given.


Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sk1tz0 on May 05, 2012, 07:52:53 AM
So I am going for my first session today...I will try to document the whole procedure
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldstu on May 05, 2012, 10:52:22 AM
So I am going for my first session today...I will try to document the whole procedure

Well done and thanks in advance
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sk1tz0 on May 05, 2012, 03:49:46 PM
First session was not bad at all, but then again it was only the first session...here are some snaps, will take more snaps as the weeks progress onto my next session.


(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg526.imageshack.us%2Fimg526%2F9247%2F20120505162901.jpg&hash=c4aee66643bdaa1a613b9ed87254ba3b)
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By bigformz (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/bigformz) at 2012-05-05
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldstu on May 05, 2012, 03:54:02 PM
Must say im impressed , still a bit more to do , thank you forthe pictures
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on May 07, 2012, 03:15:08 PM
Thank you, sk1tz, for the pictures and your next updates.


Jason, you can download and install small and simple program named IrfanView. There you have an option to reduce pic's size. Very simple and easy.
If you can't, please pm me.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Jason66 on May 07, 2012, 07:48:22 PM
too many issues in trying post pic... this is the only forum I've been in that's so picky... i've change the size, then it wanted the format changed .. now saying the entire file to large.... gone back and fourth with it 20 times... just not worth the effort..
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on May 07, 2012, 08:56:17 PM
too many issues in trying post pic... this is the only forum I've been in that's so picky... i've change the size, then it wanted the format changed .. now saying the entire file to large.... gone back and fourth with it 20 times... just not worth the effort..

Then why not trying this: make your gallery at flickr.com, the best on-line picture service, and then just post the link to the gallery here?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sk1tz0 on May 19, 2012, 07:40:10 PM
Just posting an update.  It has been two weeks since my first session.  Day 1 and day 2 my head was a little sensitive and red but that subsided pretty quickly.

It took about 10 days to actually start to notice that hair was not growing back.  It is patchy in some areas now but it doesn't bother me because I shave everyday.

I have to say that I didn't think that this much hair would be removed from just one session.  I will leave it for a couple days and take a snap so you guys can see what I mean.

June 2nd is my next session.  I will keep updating with pics. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: zetaeffe on May 20, 2012, 07:28:02 PM
Looks a great start, even if I haven't seen the "before" pic.
Please keep us up to date!

Best compliments!  O0

First session was not bad at all, but then again it was only the first session...here are some snaps, will take more snaps as the weeks progress onto my next session.


(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg526.imageshack.us%2Fimg526%2F9247%2F20120505162901.jpg&hash=c4aee66643bdaa1a613b9ed87254ba3b)
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By bigformz (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/bigformz) at 2012-05-05
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: zetaeffe on May 20, 2012, 07:29:46 PM
First session was not bad at all, but then again it was only the first session...here are some snaps, will take more snaps as the weeks progress onto my next session.

What was the plastic wrap for?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sk1tz0 on May 21, 2012, 06:14:20 PM
I had them but some "LidoMax5" cream on my head (numbing cream), then wrapped it so it would not dry out.  It worked really well.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldstu on May 23, 2012, 11:06:17 AM
Very impressive bigform
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Schicksal on May 24, 2012, 02:08:44 AM
Great to get some real information here. I love the sly/bald look, but unfortunately shaving is tends to irritate my scalp (I have always had a sensitive scalp). I've enquired at a few laser centres (in Berlin), but most places don't seem to want to handle scalp hair.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sk1tz0 on June 01, 2012, 10:41:14 AM
So I finally got around to taking some snaps of the patches.  Hope you guys can see what I mean.  Next session is tomorrow, will follow with more snaps after that session.

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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on June 01, 2012, 03:39:15 PM
are you satisfied?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sk1tz0 on June 01, 2012, 05:21:51 PM
I really am so far.  I will let you know tomorrow after the session, who knows maybe I will get burned this time.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sk1tz0 on June 02, 2012, 02:29:37 PM
Just got back from session two.  First session was on 8.0, today was only at 8.2.  Everything feels the same as it did the first time.  Pointless posting pictures right now but will post some in two weeks as that's how long it took the first time to start seeing results.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sk1tz0 on June 03, 2012, 04:31:04 PM
Day two after the second session.  Parts of my head are red and a bit swollen LOL.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on June 03, 2012, 04:36:58 PM
do u have a before pic that we can compare to? It's gonna be red by the way for up to 7-10 days....
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: kokyman on June 05, 2012, 03:27:34 AM
Day two after the second session.  Parts of my head are red and a bit swollen LOL.
đ

Sk1tz0,

how much do you pay for a session?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: waine on June 08, 2012, 11:39:09 AM
This topic scares the living sh*t out of me...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sk1tz0 on June 09, 2012, 04:00:04 PM
Going to think I am crazy but I pay 250 for four sessions and the fifth one is free.  Its going to be a lot by the time I am done that is for sure.

I thought at first it was a scary thing but it really is not, once you make it through the first session you find yourself impatient in waiting for the next appointment.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: TXironman on June 13, 2012, 08:47:34 AM
I thought I'd chime in here as I have a bit of experience with laser hair removal, just none on the scalp (yet).
I've been going bald since right after I turned 17!! And I LOVE being bald. Just hate shaving, so I too am looking to get laser removal on my scalp.

I started getting free laser hair removal when my roommate's mom became the manager of a local laser removal store and they needed to train new employees.
So I had my arms,  my neck, my legs, even my nether regions!

Anyways, that was 4-5 years ago now and was completely different than current methods. Back then the lasers were only about the size/diameter of a DIME! Now they're bigger, roughly 2" wide by .5" thick I'd say. So the whole process is much faster. And it really seems less painful now. versus back then.

But everything depends on your complexion, how tan you are, how thick and dark your hair is and how sensitive your skin is.

So the best time to get laser hair removal if you're paying for it is near the end of winter when your summer tan has faded. That way they can increase the lasers intensity so that each treatment is more effective.   That's exactly what I'm planning on doing this winter. Also, if you're going in for one treatment area you might as well try to get them to discount other areas and get everything done at once. I was getting my legs, arms, chest, back,  and neck done each time and it only took about 15-20 minutes. I got everything done because it was free, and it doesn't completely remove your hair unless you do 5+ treatments.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sk1tz0 on July 03, 2012, 08:17:27 PM
Can't believe I have went for three sessions already.  Just went for another session on June 29th and this time it hurt like no other time.  Way more swelling, way more redness, but it subsided again within three days and I am happy once again.  I am really starting to notice the difference and am so eager to continue.  Next session is on July 25th.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on July 03, 2012, 08:30:39 PM
go for it!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on August 04, 2012, 11:13:39 PM
Have been through the first treatment - 7 days ago - and indeed it hurts a lot.

After 36 hours all the redness was gone, but I cant really notice much difference on the hair strengh so far.

Unfortunately, the power was set at 12 (as it was the first session). I will make sure I get a more powerfull setting next time!

I'll keep you posted
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: the balder the better on September 06, 2012, 03:40:52 AM
Hello guys, my name is Tim and I am new to this forum. I shaved my head completely bald back in 2001 for the first time. Since than I have been occassionally slick bald, somtimes for weeks, sometimes for months, but never longer than 3-4 months in a row. Now I am slick bald again since the beginning of this week. In the phases between I let my hair grow, but very short, trimming it with an electrical clipper.

The reason for starting shaving was that I started to loose hair in my early twenties. So far I'd say 40 % of my hair is gone already. I have always been fascinated by the thought to get rid of the remaining rest permanently. After doing quite a lot of reasearch, lasering seems the only thing that comes into consideration.

I'm from Europe and the problem ist that you will hardly find any studio that offers this service for the scalp here. Most of them explicitly exclude this. I've talked to some of the owners and the main reason is always that I could probably want my hair back after some time. This is kind of wired to me because if I decide to go permanently bald I am fully aware that this meens that the hair doesn't grow back anymore. In the US laser hair removal on the scalp seems to be a normal thing because many studios really promote this service. 

I am glad I found this forum and I already got a lot of good input from this single thread here. Some guys who went to the whole process of getting their scalp hair lasered completely obviously stopped posting at one point. In case that there is anybody out there who got his scalp lasered and is permanently bald for a year or more now I would highly appreciate a feedback on his experiences.

Did the hair really not grow back?

Were there any negative side effects that came out after finishing the treatments?

How was the reaction of family, friends and co-workers when you told them of that and whilst you were in the middle of the process?

... and most importanly, would you do it again?  ;D

Thanks so much already for your feedback. Really glad I found this place to discusss with like-minded guys.

Tim
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Frontier Guy on September 06, 2012, 04:25:28 AM
In the US laser hair removal on the scalp seems to be a normal thing because many studios really promote this service. 


Welcome Tim,

Although "many studios really promote this service" I've never met a guy who had it done or considered it. And I know a lot of bald guys. The studios may be promoting it, still in hopes of finding a willing client base. If I were interested personally, I would be very wary as this seems far from mainstream and I would not care to be the "learning opportunity" for someone else.

Just my two cents ... which are better spent on a razor and HeadSlick than lasering.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: the balder the better on September 06, 2012, 06:13:23 AM
Quote
If I were interested personally, I would be very wary as this seems far from mainstream and I would not care to be the "learning opportunity" for someone else.

Thanks FrontierGuy. You're absolutely right. If it does not proove that this is really safe and there is no real risk on negative side effects, this is not really an option. I definitely keep shaving - which I also like anyway - letting my head burn or running around with scars.

I'll definitely stay tuned to this topic. And if I'll find a solution to make me bald for good, I will take this chance, that's for sure. But does not seem so easy as I thought.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: yelloboy32 on September 06, 2012, 08:08:38 AM
I know a few guys on here and I know a few personally who have gone the laser route and it appears that 85% have positive results. I am BBC and to consider laser hair removal would be a long painful process, one that I am still uneasy about pursuing.

The choices we have to make.....lol.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: the balder the better on September 06, 2012, 08:45:07 AM
Quote
The choices we have to make.....lol.

Bald choices are important choices!  ;D

When have those guys that you know personally finished their treatments. Are there some that are 2 or 3 years permanently bald without any negative side effects ever since? And did the hair really not grow back?

I am not so much bothered with the pain but more with the risk of being burned or getting scars etc.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: head/heels on September 08, 2012, 11:55:45 AM
Long time lurker, first time poster....
.
Can anyone tell me the difference between IPL vs YAG vs Alexandrite lasers for someone with an easily tanning white guy with dark hair.
.
I am confused on the subject and all the research I have done seems to be for the non scalp.
.
Thanks
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on September 25, 2012, 06:35:36 PM
I documented my experiences on the board 2+ years ago with some updates since.  Answers:

* The hair grows back.  It's just a lot thinner and easier to shave.  Also, I only shave once every three days or so and no shadow in between shaves.

* No negative side effects after finishing the treatments.  None.

* Reaction of friends and family during the process.  They thought it was an extreme thing to do.  Probably because I kept talking about how painful it was.  No one talks about it now.

* I would definitely do it again.  My hair was super-thick and hard to shave and I spent a lot of time worrying about shadow.  Very happy to be free of that.



Did the hair really not grow back?

Were there any negative side effects that came out after finishing the treatments?

How was the reaction of family, friends and co-workers when you told them of that and whilst you were in the middle of the process?

... and most importanly, would you do it again?  ;D

Thanks so much already for your feedback. Really glad I found this place to discusss with like-minded guys.

Tim

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: theman on October 07, 2012, 12:09:16 PM
I saw this thread and there is a item that runs about 300 bucks called a NoNo that removes hair.  To me I love shaving to much . 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on November 08, 2012, 11:41:59 AM
Just finished my 3 treatment.
This time was around 15 minutes and nowhere near as painful as the 1st and 2nd ones.

Machine: Candela - GentleLaser Pro 18 mm (power 13)


Whats your current power settings?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: RichW on November 17, 2012, 08:10:16 PM
I've always looked around this posting, but never shared any pictures.  The picture I posted is about 2 days after my 14th visit to American Laser Center.  I ended up going 18 times, but the remaining hair would not fall out.  It's been just over a year since I gave up on Laser and the hair on the back and sides has grown back and it looks like a typical 70 year old with male pattern baldness.  Has anyone else had a similar experience? 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on November 17, 2012, 09:32:41 PM
same problem here-u may contact me.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on November 18, 2012, 01:39:01 PM
Hey RichW,
I am sorry to hear about your problem and here's my best advice.
Go check another clinic and give this Laser a try - Candela GentleLase Pro 18 mm.

Today is the 10th day after my 3rd treatment and I couldnt be happier.
I can stay easily 48 hours without shaving, and still be shadow free.


I believe that 3 more treatments will do the job for me (Im 29 years old by the way).
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Itall on November 24, 2012, 12:26:19 AM

Hey RichW,
I am sorry to hear about your problem and here's my best advice.
Go check another clinic and give this Laser a try - Candela GentleLase Pro 18 mm.

Today is the 10th day after my 3rd treatment and I couldnt be happier.
I can stay easily 48 hours without shaving, and still be shadow free.


I believe that 3 more treatments will do the job for me (Im 24 years old by the way).

I agree. I have had heat success with laser treatment. The first few left me looking like u but with persistence I now have no shadow and stay very smooth. You can pm if u want.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: baldeagle on December 20, 2012, 03:53:16 AM


Shadow free is the only reason I would think its a good idea so I think 2013 is the year I do for the proper job.

I'm currently torn between laser haor removal and hair tattoo, however the hair tattoo option  is a little more worrying and expensive.

Cheers
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Bald Hobbit on December 20, 2012, 09:33:30 AM


Shadow free is the only reason I would think its a good idea so I think 2013 is the year I do for the proper job.

I'm currently torn between laser haor removal and hair tattoo, however the hair tattoo option  is a little more worrying and expensive.

Cheers

I don't get the hair tattoo thing... it's basically a subderminal toupee... plus, it looks better when there's little shadow than when there's a full head of it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: D.A.L.U.I. on December 20, 2012, 11:07:49 AM


Shadow free is the only reason I would think its a good idea so I think 2013 is the year I do for the proper job.

I'm currently torn between laser haor removal and hair tattoo, however the hair tattoo option  is a little more worrying and expensive.

Cheers
Remember, tattoos do blur over time, so you'll wind up with a smudge on top of a bald head--doesn't make sense to me. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Bald Hobbit on December 20, 2012, 12:21:58 PM


Shadow free is the only reason I would think its a good idea so I think 2013 is the year I do for the proper job.

I'm currently torn between laser haor removal and hair tattoo, however the hair tattoo option  is a little more worrying and expensive.

Cheers
Remember, tattoos do blur over time, so you'll wind up with a smudge on top of a bald head--doesn't make sense to me. 

Oh gosh. Isn't that sped up by sunlight exposure?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on December 22, 2012, 07:07:22 AM


Hey guys!

2 weeks have passed since my 4th treatment and I need to ask for some advice here.
 
Im pretty much shadow free right now, but some of the dead hair seam to be stuck and doesnt fall out..
So I currently have a few patches on the back of my head that are starting to bother me.

Do you guys know any way to get rid of them, or at least accelerate the process?

Thank you so much for your time.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on December 23, 2012, 10:55:02 AM
Cmon Guys,

I could really use some help here!  :-[
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: aarrggh on December 23, 2012, 10:59:52 AM
 BUST OUT A RAZOR AND SHAVE IT OFF ..........   >:D
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on January 03, 2013, 06:36:55 AM

The patches are still here but already fading away...
In 1 week I'll do the 5 th treatment, and hopefully all of them will be gone.

For the guys still on the fence, dont hesitate! I'm 150% happy with the results.
In 5 months I got from shaving everyday and being embarassed with my shadow, to completely sly and shadow free.

Aleluia!  :*))
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: VoodooSyxx on January 03, 2013, 10:39:47 AM


Shadow free is the only reason I would think its a good idea so I think 2013 is the year I do for the proper job.

I'm currently torn between laser haor removal and hair tattoo, however the hair tattoo option  is a little more worrying and expensive.

Cheers
Remember, tattoos do blur over time, so you'll wind up with a smudge on top of a bald head--doesn't make sense to me. 

Oh gosh. Isn't that sped up by sunlight exposure?

Yeah, it is. A hair tattoo sounds like a horrible idea to me. My ex brother-in-law had his scalp tattoo'd. Not a hair tattoo but a dragon that covered his entire head. After just a few years of exposure, it was already losing definition and the black ink was turning toward green.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Bald Hobbit on January 03, 2013, 03:57:50 PM
Yeah, it is. A hair tattoo sounds like a horrible idea to me. My ex brother-in-law had his scalp tattoo'd. Not a hair tattoo but a dragon that covered his entire head. After just a few years of exposure, it was already losing definition and the black ink was turning toward green.

Even his face? :(
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: marty22 on January 03, 2013, 04:05:23 PM
Scalp tattoo, eh? Very kewl........
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: VoodooSyxx on January 03, 2013, 04:11:50 PM
Yeah, it is. A hair tattoo sounds like a horrible idea to me. My ex brother-in-law had his scalp tattoo'd. Not a hair tattoo but a dragon that covered his entire head. After just a few years of exposure, it was already losing definition and the black ink was turning toward green.

Even his face? :(

No, not the face. The tattoo started right around where his hairline would be and went to the back of his head. He was/is BBC so he could theoretically grow his hair out and cover the tattoo, but just barely.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Bald Hobbit on January 03, 2013, 04:23:56 PM

No, not the face. The tattoo started right around where his hairline would be and went to the back of his head. He was/is BBC so he could theoretically grow his hair out and cover the tattoo, but just barely.

Eesh. Where did he get that idea?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: jako on January 08, 2013, 11:56:32 AM
Hey everyone. I just joined and would like to join the convo. I've been reading for a few days, and I just want to thank you all. This is really helping me out. I just started thinking about the laser option. I'm 31 with most of my hair still there. I do have a badly receding hairline with a widow's peak. It's also becoming more and more sparse it seems. I just don't like the way it looks in general. In fact, I have been shaving the last 7 years or so. I tried to fix the hair line with a transplant before I decided to shave, but it was pretty much a failure (only some transplanted hair grew.) I became very skeptical of the whole thing and decided to shave. And I like the shaved look! What I don't like is the shadow and having to shave often. I believe I will continue to lose my hair, it runs in the family. I will also grey soon. I'm already grey in the beard and it has crept up. Also runs in the fam. Anyway, that's just some background. NOW, I saw a Doc today who says he has been removing head hair for 10 years. He claims that he would have no problems removing mine in an average of 5 sessions using the Cutera CoolGlide YAG. He claims NO PAIN using this laser! Based on what I've read here in your posts I want to be skeptical, but the guy has won multiple legit area awards for his clinic. Anyone care to comment? By the way, I live in CT, USA. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Switchy on January 08, 2013, 01:49:03 PM
First Welcome Jako,

I personally like to keep things simple as I can and in what I can .  I shave my head and I do have a shadow , so what .  I enjoy shaving, that is my time of the day , and no matter what I feel like after a good shave I feel great. 

There is so much you can by such as this NO NO thing to remove hair, and many other items.  Why not spend the money on a Head Blade, and some Head Blade Slick, do it in the shower, face in sink or shower with a good mirror.  We all have different ways but I am cheap, simple , and SLY !  And will not change.

Hope this helps .
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: VoodooSyxx on January 08, 2013, 02:00:11 PM
I dunno. I've thought about this. Quite a bit actually. In the end, even if it worked well and everything, I prefer my time doin my shave thing. Yeah, it takes me a little while every day to get things perfectly smooth and in order, but I just don't mind that much.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mr Jules on January 08, 2013, 02:02:08 PM
I personally like to keep things simple as I can and in what I can .  I shave my head and I do have a shadow , so what .  I enjoy shaving, that is my time of the day , and no matter what I feel like after a good shave I feel great. 

Well said, Switchblade.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: jako on January 08, 2013, 06:46:35 PM
I hear you guys, and totally respect it. I guess that's the main difference between us; not minding the shaving.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Switchy on January 08, 2013, 06:55:42 PM
I personally like to keep things simple as I can and in what I can .  I shave my head and I do have a shadow , so what .  I enjoy shaving, that is my time of the day , and no matter what I feel like after a good shave I feel great. 

Well said, Switchblade.
Thank you Mr Jules, it is what it is jako !  Keep it simple and enjoy , spend the bucks on shaving items  ;) 8)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: cmarmor on January 18, 2013, 11:32:13 PM
Hey guys, I had laser hair removal on my scalp done two years ago so I thought I'd chime in with my thoughts on my whole experience.

First off, my shaving technique. I use a Mach 3 razor, treat my scalp with a couple drops of shaving secret (available at walmart), and then use Billy Jealously Hydroplane shaving cream while shaving in the shower. I've tried tons of other products and razors, and this works best for me.

Second, I had been shaving my head for about 3 years before I decided on the laser treatments. I still had most of my hair at that point, with a very thin and noticable bald spot, receding hairline with pronounced widows peak. I have strong dark hair, and even after a fresh shave I had a noticable shadow and stubble. After three years of shaving my head, here is what I found.

1. I liked the bald look.
2. I did not like the stubble or shadow.
3. With my strong, thick hair, shaving my head every day often made my scalp sore, making the shadow even more pronounced.

This led me try laser hair removal, so here are some things to think about.

1. I won't lie or sugar coat here, it hurts. Quite a bit. They tell you it feels like being snapped by a rubber band, and this is a good analogy. It feels a lot like that. However that does not capture the feeling of being snapped 500 times in succession in very close proximity.  Be prepared, it hurts. The good thing is the whole process took only about 5-10 minutes and it only took that long because he had to stop and clean the laser midway. Afterword it feels like a moderate sunburn on your head.

2. The soreness goes away quickly, much like a sunburn. I used aloe vera stored in my fridge to treat my scalp, and it worked and felt great.

3. Be prepared for a patchy look for months. I had one treatment every 6 weeks, and I didn't start losing the "patchy" look until after the 5 treatment or so. I had a total of 8 treatments, with a total cost of $1500.

4. It took awhile to find a place that would treat the scalp. I was told by numerous facilities that laser hair removal does not work on the scalp. I am here to tell you it does. Keep looking for a good provider.

5. Laser hair removal does not kill all hair, only hair that has pigment.  I still have to shave my head of the fine, light colored (and gray) hair. However, I can skip shaving days and still "look" smooth since I have no dark hair left. Also, when I shave now I get a completely smooth feel, no stubble at all and no shadow.

Finally, overall I am very pleased with the result and very happy I had it done. I'll probably continue to get a touch-up treatment once a year or every other year. This generally would cost about $200, but my provider does all touchups for $100.

Good luck,
Chris
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: VoodooSyxx on January 19, 2013, 02:57:23 AM
Thanks for the info, Chris. Might be something I look into in the future. It would be nice to shave and not have rough spots and shadow after less than eight hours.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Lynchy on January 19, 2013, 04:33:35 AM
Thanks Chris!

Sounds intense, hope you are happy with it!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: cmarmor on January 19, 2013, 06:32:56 AM
Oh yeah, I should also add that each treatment is less painful than the previous. What makes the process painful is when the dark hair gets zapped. The more dark hair you have, the more painful. After each treatment you'll be left with less hair, making the next treatment less painful.  So it does get better. My touchups have very little pain  - nothing like that first visit.

So if you take the plunge, don't let that first visit get you down - it gets better.

Chris
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on February 12, 2013, 05:44:01 AM

Last session, my power settings were increased to 18, and I really want to share this.

When it finished, I felt like a freakin HERO!
God, It hurts like hell! Its hurst really, really bad.

Anyway, right now I can go 3 days without shaving.. WITHOUT ANY SHADOW!!
I am really gald I had the courage to start this treatment.

2 more sessions to go.  O0
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: pliskin3 on February 21, 2013, 12:38:03 AM
I've been following this thread and a few posts as a lurker, but wanted to share my experience so far with laser hair removal on the scalp.

Why laser?
First, I see the "ritual" comment about shaving all the time and it drives me insane.  For those of us with coarse, thick hair, my shaving "ritual" is going through a $3 cartridge with one shave.  Being forced to put a hand towel over my pillow at night to keep the blood at vaseline or cortisone ointment from getting on my pillow.  Dealing with pimples, redness, ingrown hairs, and other blemishes all over the side and back of my head.  I didn't give a crap about my "shadow".  I wanted to be free from embarrassment and not being only able to shave my head once per week or deal with the above consequences.

Next, the whole "go with the grain" comment is hilarious.  If I go with the grain on thick, coarse hair, it is no different than combing it.  It will not come out unless I go against the grain, no matter what I do.

For these reasons, I chose to get laser.  I admittedly did not do my research, but as I am typing the above parargaphs, I don't regret it.  I just want it to be over soon.

Which lasers?
I finished treatment 4 exactly one week ago.  I went to two different clinics.  My primary uses a "Gentle" something and my secondary uses a Soprano diode.  I feel like the most recent treatment was the most effective.  She was on 18/25 on the Gentle laser and did two passes over my main area.  The Soprano (treatment 3) didn't seem to be effective on setting 8/10 with a new Sapphire.  The "painless" ones are B.S.  You feel extreme heat hitting your scalp like it is on fire.  I prefer the snapping of the Gentle and she takes more time with it (50 minutes), versus the wham bam 15 minutes of the Sporano.

Pain
Unrelated, but I have had agonizing TMJ and cluster headaches for years.  Comparatively, I don't find this to be painful at all, although I admittedly pop a Percocet 10 before going in and have numbing cream.  My technician says I am the only person to get this far into scalp treatments.   Most men walk after or during the first treatment.  I want my technician to go to a 20/25 or 22/25 next time, but want to avoid scarring.

Results
Here is where I have had problems.  After treatment 2, my sides were 100% gone.  The base of my neck gone.  Top gone.  I have been left with a bizarre horseshoe on the back of my head that looks like a crazy tattoo almost.  It has been embarrassing to go in public with it.  I can't wear a hat to work, so I use concealer makeup to mitigate some of the "design".  My technicial assures me that it will go away, but the shadow is just so dark.

The good news is that all of my ingrowns and problems were on the sides of my head and on the rear where the hair is gone.  Primary issue gone, but now I am stuck shaving EVERY day.  I now wake up extra early in the morning to shave and shower, let the scalp have time to "calm down, and then apply makeup.  If I don't shave it every day, it is obvious.

After treatments, I'm stuck wearing a hat for 5 days.  The follicles are so raised that shaving is completely ineffective.  Makeup helps, but it loos funny with all of the bumps.  I have to wear a hat, so I work my schedule around my ability to miss 2 days of work due to treatment and then be able to wear a hat for 5+ days after that.

Advice/summary
1.  Do your research and be prepared for an extended period of time looking weird.  I am in a profession that this isn't really an option, which has hurt.
2.  Don't sweat the pain.  It hasn't been an issue yet.  My vasectomy hurt more and guys always say how easy that was.
3.  Don't do this if you are only dealing with shadow, but are able to shave regularly.  My skin was getting shredded by razors.
4.  Don't be ashamed to use makeup and try different types.  I've gotten good at the art of cover up.
5.  Be patient.  I suspect I am going to need 10 treatments total.  At ever 6 weeks, this is going to take time.  The end result will be great, but being self conscious about people staring at your head isn't fun.

Pics attached to describe what I have left.  These are both 24 hours of regrowth.  I need to stay on top of it and shave in the AM to make it through the day.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Lynchy on February 21, 2013, 01:42:25 AM
Welcome mate,

Thanks for sharing your journey with us!

Wow! You can really see where it's doing its thing.

So one your done with the lasers will you have to shave at all or there won't be any growth?

Good luck!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: pliskin3 on February 21, 2013, 09:14:51 AM
So one your done with the lasers will you have to shave at all or there won't be any growth?
There is still going to be growth, but that shadow in the back should hopefully be gone.  Apparently everyone has really light hairs that no one can see.  It is actually fun shaving those off on the sides of my head because they shave off very easily.  I imagine that's what a lot of the "ritual" guys experience.  No irritation, no bleeding.  You can't even see the light hairs on the blade.  I could probably even use that Headblade on them, which was almost completely ineffective before I started laser.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: cmarmor on February 21, 2013, 10:28:01 PM
Hey Pliskin3,

Your reason for going with laser was also one of mine. With my thick course hair, my head would get very sore if I shaved every day, not to mention an increased likelihood of nicks and cuts. I also found myself going through expensive cartridges with only one or two shaves. Unlike you, I found the treatments (at least the early ones) quite painful (though tolerable).

Your picture shows a classic example of what I called the "patchy" look. You have the "horseshoe" shape because the hair on the crown of your head was probably thinner, and took the treatments better. I looked exactly the same. As I said earlier, be prepared to endure this look for months. I had a total of 8 treatments, and didn't loose the "patches" until I was on treatment 5 or so, though it gradually gets better through the whole process as more hair is killed off.

Good luck,
Chris
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldnbald on February 24, 2013, 07:07:50 PM
Hello all,

I have been on and off this site for a few years.  This post in particular.  I guess I am wondering if there is a specific laser I should pursue when shopping around.  I have fair skin and have/had dirty blonde hair. 

I'm in the Chicago area if any of you wanna recommend a place feel free to PM me.

BaldnBald
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on February 27, 2013, 08:22:53 AM
Guys, I had my 6 th treatment (5 days ago) and have returned to the patchy look!

I really need your help here!

How can I get rid of these circles? I didnt have them before the treatment, just an overall very weakened and thin hair.. Now it looks like I have burned circles and stripes all over the head again (like after my 3 rd treatment).

Are they missed spots? Or just burned follicles?
Please give me a hand here.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/photo1cdo.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/photo1cdo.jpg)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Itall on February 27, 2013, 03:36:31 PM
Just keep going and it gets better. Just be patient.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on February 27, 2013, 06:04:24 PM
Hey Itall,

Yeah, I guess its all about patience right now.

Anyway, what do you guys recomend for removing the dead hairs that get stuck?
Any exfoliating procedure?

Thanks once again!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldnbald on March 01, 2013, 03:31:08 PM
Hello All,
So I got a consultation today from a Laser place, won't mention where not important.  I have a few questions.
It was obvious that the technician hadn't done procedure many times on men's scalps.  I have read a lot about the different lasers.  The one they have is newer they said, called a PALOMAR VECTUS and it apparantly auto adjusts strength settings to hair and skin.  Price point is good cause they want to use my before and after pics to start a portfolio.  This makes me very nervous, as it should.  She said she had done a few men's scalps and wanted to start marketing this to more.  The upside is free unlimited touchups for 2 years after the last of my 6 prepaid sessions.  And she's gonna do my neck down to my shirt line for free after I mentioned the ingrown hairs from shaving. 


1.  DOES IT MATTER she hasn't done many men's scalp?

2.  PALOMAR VECTUS laser, any good? 

I have read a lot about the leopard pattern a lot of guys experience, and this laser they use just rolls across, its not like the videos I have seen where its down and shoot, then up and down again and shoot and repeat etc......  This one just glides over area and laser pulses.   

Thanks for comments

 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on March 03, 2013, 04:13:54 PM

Hey Baldnbald,
Cant comment on the new Laser, as I aint got any experience rather than GentleLaser Alexandrite.

Anyways, I was also the first patient doing laser air removal on the scalp (on my clinic) and that wasnt a problem for me.
I knew what i wanted and knew the laser was safe and efficient.

It all comes down to, are you really sure about the procedure or not?
If you are, just go for it!

In my case, if I did go back in time, I would definitely do the same decision again!
Cheers mate and good luck!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: football guy on March 03, 2013, 06:38:06 PM
i completed my laser hair removal at the start of December, so thought i would comment here and let you know my opinions.
I am a young married guy (24 last month) and first went sly in march 2010. at the 2 year point i started looking into the laser option as a way of making it more permanent. Found a nearby clinic and got a consultation. I found it fairly expensive, but my wife and i sat down and discussed it and decided i should go for it.
i have to agree with what the other guys say, it hurts, quite a lot. Some of my tattoos hurt more though, so its manageable.
It worked really well for me. Due to my age i still had full color in my hair (that i had left). The better the pigment, the better the result.  My result was one of the best the clinic had seen, and the benefit for me is that there are now only small areas to shave. Will continue to have follow up sessions, and the girls who work at the clinic seem fairly confident they can get rid of most of those lighter hairs too.
So in my situation, i would recommend it. i'm happy with less shaving, and my wife's happy i dont get stubble anymore ( she hates that).
so if your thinking bout it, definitely look into it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Itall on March 03, 2013, 06:52:06 PM
i completed my laser hair removal at the start of December, so thought i would comment here and let you know my opinions.
I am a young married guy (24 last month) and first went sly in march 2010. at the 2 year point i started looking into the laser option as a way of making it more permanent. Found a nearby clinic and got a consultation. I found it fairly expensive, but my wife and i sat down and discussed it and decided i should go for it.
i have to agree with what the other guys say, it hurts, quite a lot. Some of my tattoos hurt more though, so its manageable.
It worked really well for me. Due to my age i still had full color in my hair (that i had left). The better the pigment, the better the result.  My result was one of the best the clinic had seen, and the benefit for me is that there are now only small areas to shave. Will continue to have follow up sessions, and the girls who work at the clinic seem fairly confident they can get rid of most of those lighter hairs too.
So in my situation, i would recommend it. i'm happy with less shaving, and my wife's happy i dont get stubble anymore ( she hates that).
so if your thinking bout it, definitely look into it.


I have had the same experience and results. Would do it again if I had the choice. Very happy with the results.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on March 14, 2013, 06:46:26 AM
These are from missed spots.  Get another laserist if you can--or tell your current (probably inexperienced with scalp) provider what I'm telling you.

They have to be absolutely thorough on the scalp.  Obsessive even.  Which is why a session should take, at minimum, 50 minutes.  Some patchiness is inevitable, but what I see in your pictures is not.

Good luck!

Guys, I had my 6 th treatment (5 days ago) and have returned to the patchy look!

I really need your help here!

How can I get rid of these circles? I didnt have them before the treatment, just an overall very weakened and thin hair.. Now it looks like I have burned circles and stripes all over the head again (like after my 3 rd treatment).

Are they missed spots? Or just burned follicles?
Please give me a hand here.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/photo1cdo.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/photo1cdo.jpg)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on March 28, 2013, 04:04:15 PM
These are from missed spots.  Get another laserist if you can--or tell your current (probably inexperienced with scalp) provider what I'm telling you.

They have to be absolutely thorough on the scalp.  Obsessive even.  Which is why a session should take, at minimum, 50 minutes.  Some patchiness is inevitable, but what I see in your pictures is not.

Good luck!

Guys, I had my 6 th treatment (5 days ago) and have returned to the patchy look!

I really need your help here!

How can I get rid of these circles? I didnt have them before the treatment, just an overall very weakened and thin hair.. Now it looks like I have burned circles and stripes all over the head again (like after my 3 rd treatment).

Are they missed spots? Or just burned follicles?
Please give me a hand here.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/photo1cdo.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/photo1cdo.jpg)

Hey Common,
First of all thanks for your comment.
Indeed you were right, but also was the laserist, and heres why:

Despite all the head been lasered, some of the hair is deeper, hence taking longer to fall out.
The bald spots are a result of a more direct contact with the laser, while some other areas have the hair and follicle burnt but take longer to fall.

Its over 1 month since my last session, and I aint got patterns or patches on my scalp anymore (thank god)!

Anyway, my laserist offered a new option for the next couple of sessions:
Trying the YAG Laser instead of Alexandrite.

Despite having light skin, she told me that the YAG Laser is deeper than alexandrite and maybe it could help killing the remain Hair.

What do you guys reckon?
Thank you once again for the time!
Cheers
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldnbald on March 28, 2013, 04:57:39 PM
ARMING THE LASER!!!!!  I'm signed up ready to rock and roll.  First treatment is tomorrow with the Palomar Vectus.  Newer laser, can't find anyone thats used it on their dome, but I got a two year maintenance free package so I pulled the trigger.  Will be in touch with results.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on April 12, 2013, 07:22:03 AM
ARMING THE LASER!!!!!  I'm signed up ready to rock and roll.  First treatment is tomorrow with the Palomar Vectus.  Newer laser, can't find anyone thats used it on their dome, but I got a two year maintenance free package so I pulled the trigger.  Will be in touch with results.

BandnBald, any news on the treatment?
How did it go ?

By the way, any thoughts on YAG for light skin?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: mrcleanshave on April 16, 2013, 11:27:04 PM
Hey Tyler what do you think of this idea? Temporary Dye for shaved scalps www.topshadow.com it shades in the bald area versus having to laser the hair you do have off.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on April 18, 2013, 03:29:03 PM
7th Session: Check.
(Decided to stick with the Candela Alexandrite Laser).

The process has been long and painful.. I am proud I had the guts to do it!

For the guys still on the fence: just cut the crap and do it! Its absolutely worth it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldnbald on May 03, 2013, 09:57:51 PM
BandnBald, any news on the treatment?
How did it go ?

It went ok.  I've had 2 done now and neither was impressive.  They are extremely timid with the laser and this second session the tech went so quick that I knew it wasn't gonna cover every spot.  Next time I am going to insist that they crank it up and really go slow and hit each spot double if they have to.  I want this done.  I can tell its gonna hurt when they turn it up but to be honest I don't care 1 bit.  Its only gonna hurt for a little while.  I'm ready for my head to be shave free, or close to it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Slapsey on May 15, 2013, 09:01:09 PM
Dudes

Thanks for your inputs to this forum (which I'm new to): it seems to be the best source of public info on the subject.

It appears that scalp hair behaves quite differently to hair on other areas of the body. Due to this fact, it seems that not much research has been done in to the effects of laser or IPL on scalp hair. But it’s probably also because demand has been slow (as we Slys have been slow (& too proud?) in realising the surely-inevitable potential), & that in such a prominent & important (for appearance) location, it's difficult to find guinea-pigs to experiment on. This is where we on this forum come in!

Can I ask those who are posting about their procedures to please give the vital info about laser or IPL type & setting, & their skin colour & hair-type? I'm especially interested in this info from pliskin3, as my circumstances (& even the results so far, judging by his photo on February 21, 2013, 01:38:03 AM) are uncannily similar.

My procedure details are that I've had 3 treatments with an Elite IPL (at 38.3 joules) for £95 a pop in Sep 2012, Nov 2012 & Jan 2013, on my dark hair (I’m fair-skinned). So far, the results fall in to 2 camps- On the sides of my head, it appears to have worked excellently, with only the few white hairs left. But for the halo (the border with my bald pate), it looks like it hasn't worked at all, despite the technician insisting each time that she’s treated the whole area equally. I definitely felt her apply the wand to this area, although I'd imagine that given my increased flinching at the considerable pain when she was treating this area, she could've been less thorough, but not less thorough enough to explain the degree of contrast between the 'worked' area & 'hasn't worked' area. This confirms to me that there are very different growing behaviours not just on the scalp, but different areas of the scalp. Given our interest stems from MPB, which is unique to the scalp (& different areas of the scalp), I don't find these differences in results that surprising.

As with pliskin3, my halo of hair remaining has a very irregular shape, & looks like I'm a special person who's shaved in the dark, while rat-arsed! & as my remaining hair is so dark, it is visible immediately after shaving. It's very frustrating, but I felt equally self-conscious about my pre-treatment balding ‘old man’ halo look- At least now this provides an interesting talking point, & only for the time-being. I’ve little doubt that in a few more treatments I’ll be reaching my realistically-desired outcome, which is the ability to shave in a few minutes (rather than 20), without cuts (which is already noticeably less), & with no obvious halo (within 48hrs of shaving).

So, a bit more quantitive info please dudes, & if you really can’t tolerate your halo & difficult shaving, but can put-up with cost, lasering pain & potential temporary comical look (or a lot of covering-up), go for it.

Slapsey
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: head/heels on May 16, 2013, 07:58:22 PM
I want to second Slapsey's comment on writing in what laser and settings everyone is using. Also 2nd the skin color and hair color of each poster. Maybe we can find out what laser works best for certain skin/hair types. I know that our techs know/say that the YAG is better for darker skin types but mine also said that the Alexandrite would work perfectly for me (medium white guy that tans easily with dark hair and pretty white lately because I knew to stay out of sun before this procedure -have stayed out of sun all winter.) However, I have patches after my 4th treatment and it is in the horseshoe area like everyone else. I suspect it is because that is where I have the most hair but it is frustrating and does affect me self consciously.
so here goes:
skin: medium white (tan easily though)
.
Hair color: dark brown/black
Laser: Cynosure Alexandrite at setting or 23/18 or 18/23..I cant remember what each number means but that is my most recent setting.
.
Nervous the patchiness will not abate and I will be trying new lasers and treatments for years to come....
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on May 17, 2013, 10:57:38 AM

Many users have been asking how happy I am with this decision.
Once again:

I am very glad I have done it.

The end results are great. It is, however, a long process, and you have to be willing to undergo the pacthy look for a few weeks/ months.

Cheers

P.S. I used Candela GentleLase Alexandrite (power settings were increased every session until around 20)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Dexter Chrome Dome on June 03, 2013, 12:10:36 AM
Hello everyone. I'm new but I had to get in on this topic cause I just got my first laser session a few days ago. And I am glad I am finally doing this. I havent noticed any hqir fall out whatsoever so I'm kind of wondering if it takes longer than three days to see the patchy look I keep reading about? I do notice that when I shave my head it doesnt really take the hair down to the skin as it always does. So I have more of a shadow. I'm bald on top so I'm in it to win it. I just hope I get the patchy look soon. For anyone thinking aboutdoing this It does hurt. It feels like a tattoo. I have a question for those who have already had this completed. How long should the laser session be? I was only in there for about ten maybe 15 minutes. Is that normal? Cause if my 150 bucks is for the time I want as long as I can stand if it helps speed up the hair fall out.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on June 03, 2013, 12:17:09 PM

Hey mate!
Dont worry, the hair will only start to fall out at least a week after the session.

Regarding its duration, it depends on the Laser you'r using.
If the staff is experienced and using an advanced Laser, it should take around 15min.

Congrats on the decision.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: freckleddome on June 03, 2013, 01:41:35 PM
Hey guys,

Thanks for all of your posts!  I am new this forum and am glad I found it!  I've been shaving my head for about 2 years now and I decided to get it laser-removed.  My first session is tomorrow.  I'll be honest, I am a bit nervous about the whole ordeal!  Reading through some of these stories and others' experiences has helped.  For that, I thank you!  I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Dexter Chrome Dome on June 04, 2013, 12:16:13 AM
Thanks San Cisco. Im guessing that was for me. Im excited about this! Anyone on the fence I say do it! If you are at all balding or will be bald its worth it. I wish I knew about this 5 years ago. Id have a smooth head by now!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on June 09, 2013, 06:56:05 PM
Just went though my first session. I see some people got all hair removed by the first one, but after 4 days it's quite the same as before. They used Alexandrite with setting 19, and I even got a little bruise because of heat. I can't imagine going through with 22. Though it looks like it grows a bit slower than usual and very coarse.
I read the whole thread and my experience was very similar. It was not pleasant (especially at the back), but I felt very happy just by thinking I can get rid of it one day. I was really elevated, so I'd even go through it every day for months just to get free of the horseshoe. Nothing like patches... nothing. It was burning, it was painful in some particular places, but yet nothing apparent. :( Hopefully it will be after two more sessions.
Another problem the doc said to get back in September...after 3 months??? That's too much.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on June 09, 2013, 08:11:50 PM

Hey Fewef,

3 months is against all the recommendations I have heard so far.
All of them say between 4-6 weeks.

Regarding the power settings 19 is crazy for the first session.
I think I started with 12 as a standard to avoid burns and hyper pigmentation.

You may want to double check those guys, mate!
Good Luck
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: bigstosh on June 18, 2013, 08:05:15 AM
Thanks for the input and for keeping this post going.  Since my hair is grayer and thinning more as I age, as well as the fact that I never intend to grow my hair back, I am in the early stages of thinking about a permanent solution.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: bigstosh on June 18, 2013, 08:10:34 AM
This is a complete change in my thinking, since I have never considered doing anything to my body that is permanent, that's why I don't have any tattoos or piercings.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on June 18, 2013, 08:48:13 AM
Thanks for the input and for keeping this post going.  Since my hair is grayer and thinning more as I age, as well as the fact that I never intend to grow my hair back, I am in the early stages of thinking about a permanent solution.
This is a complete change in my thinking, since I have never considered doing anything to my body that is permanent, that's why I don't have any tattoos or piercings.

If it is something that you know that you want, why not go for it? Good luck and keep us posted!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: bigstosh on June 20, 2013, 06:11:32 PM
I have found a place that will laser off my scalp hair.  Next step will be to go for a consultation and check out pricing.  I'm moving slowly on this because this is a huge step for a guy who can still grow a pretty good head of hair when he wants to.   Also, knowing human nature, once my hair is permanently removed, I may regret it and want it back.  Sounds like fear of commitment.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: J313 on June 23, 2013, 07:18:19 PM
Whats up fellas.I found this thread before I took the big plunge.Ive had 3 sessions so far here in Detroit.Mannnnn does it hurt! Every session I end up very swollen,with red bumps all over my head.Ive been using hydrocordizone cream and aloe to speed up the healing process.My entire scalp has small burns on it.After a week,it goes away.They are charging me 100 bucks a session,and say it will take at least 6 sessions.The worst part is the patchiness between sessions.Ive been wearing a hat constantly lol.Every spot they have hit,there is a bald spot though.Ill keep you you guys updated
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on June 24, 2013, 12:03:55 PM

Hey Fewef,

3 months is against all the recommendations I have heard so far.
All of them say between 4-6 weeks.

Regarding the power settings 19 is crazy for the first session.
I think I started with 12 as a standard to avoid burns and hyper pigmentation.

You may want to double check those guys, mate!
Good Luck

Mey San Cisco. Thank you. I will go after a month again. The doc said settings differ on different machines, though they all may use the same laser.
I'm really pleased with first session results. It's only 3 weeks (it wasn't visible for 2 weeks I think), and the sides are now quite smoother. I had quite some irritation, and I think you can mildly shave after 3-5 days, but not against the grain (after a week you can). I was really scared, as I got lots of itching dots, and it looked quite pronounced. The toilet seat is still there, and I think it will be not easy to beat, but generally I like it even now much better.
On the pic the left is before. It's more uniform, but if you look closer you'll see the follicles are less visible in the second and the transition is much more visible.
The first time I did it, then my mind started thinking "wow, now it's really over... no hair will be on my head for the lifetime". Then I started thinking logically - hey, I'm bald for 10 years, and still can't accept it (and I won't, ever). So what are sentiments for this nw7 stripe. It's just psychologically hard to understand you really lost it. But...
 Then, when the hair goes away from laser, you feel amazing joy (no I'm not exaggerating). It's hard to explain, but clear dome is so much more appealing. Maybe it's because you understand you won't shave those bastards off again, because it's really so much you can do about it, and now they are gone. I'm so much awaiting for the next session.
First I started noticing it when rubbing my head, I felt some patches are very smooth on sides. I first thought it's from shaving, but they were quite big. I don't know, maybe it will grow back after the session 6 as some people say, we'll see, but so far so good.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: 2ManyShoes on June 25, 2013, 02:49:16 PM
Hi, first post (though been lurking for ages).  Tired of the daily scrape and am interested in laser but cannot find anyone in my area who is willing to do it.  They say the scalp is "too vascular" to be treated by the laser.  Anybody in the Kansas City area found a provider who does it?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on July 02, 2013, 05:05:22 PM
Hi there. I want to share one aspect of pain relief. In areas, where you feel too much pain, ask to make by a single impulse (with bigger intervals in time), not several impulses in a row. It was a drastic difference, since I asked for this when making at the back of my head. It was like 5 times easier, though a bit longer.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Thebaldnation on July 06, 2013, 09:22:08 AM
i have give laser treatment alot of thought, i like the idea alot, but what i like alot about being bald by choice is, being bald by choice. The one thing that stops me from laser is that then i wont have a choice anymore, i like the ritual of shaving.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Ostrich on July 09, 2013, 08:07:04 PM
Hello,

First time poster, long time lurker here.

I registered today to share my experience with laser hair reduction.  I've had 5 treatments on my scalp over the course of 6 months and am thrilled with the results.  I was suffering terribly from folliculitis (razor bumps) and after a lengthy battle using topical lotions, creams, different blades, barber's clippers, etc., I decided I would investigate laser therapy before giving up.  I am glad I did.

The pain is terrible.  Just go in expecting it to hurt.  And, I don't know if this makes any difference or not, but the device used on my scalp was in fact an IPL (Intense Pulsed Light) machine, not a true laser.  It is called the ProWave 770 and it works like a charm (at least on me it did.  I can't vouch for anyone else because I'm the only local guy I know who has done this to his scalp).  But yes, the pain is terrifically bad.  You'll wonder why in the hell you ever thought laser hair reduction was a good idea in the first place!  If you have any left over narcotics from previous medical procedures I would take them before each treatment.  The good news is each treatment takes only about 3 minutes.  The first one took perhaps about 5.

YOU WILL HAVE PATCHES.  Let me say this again.  YOU WILL HAVE PATCHES.  It is unavoidable from what I understand.  You can have the most thorough tech in the world working on your noggin and due to various factors, such as hair growth cycles and the angle of the laser, they will not be able to target every follicle every treatment.  As such it is wise to invest in a hat you won't mind wearing every day for several months.  My patchiness disappeared completely after my 4th treatment (with the majority of it being gone after the 3rd).  These days I can literally use the same disposable razor 12 times on my remaining peach fuzz before it gets dull.

Would I do it again?  Yes.  Overwhelmingly, yes.  My folliculitis was completely cured after my 2nd treatment.  It's truly amazing.  I now have the smoothest dome in town.  And I know you "I hate my shadow" guys will be happy if you decide laser hair reduction is right for you.  I can hardly tell where my old hairline was.  It's expensive though.  Keep that in mind.

A big thanks to my dermatologist and all her staff.  Another big thanks to the members of this board for discussing this topic in the first place and giving me the notion to see if it could solve my problem!

P.S. Here's my "technical specs": Mid-20's, pale white dude with (until laser off) brown hair.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on July 20, 2013, 04:50:05 AM

3 Weeks have passed since my 8/9th treatment.

Here's my overall experience:

Be prepared for 1 year of embarassing moments (wearing a cap to cover the patches).

But today, I can finally say that have absolutely zero shadow.  ;D

It seems to me it was one of the best decisions of my life!





I will stay around to help anyone who is still on the fence and looking for help!

Have a great weekend!



Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Blitzed on July 20, 2013, 07:09:12 AM
This is a complete change in my thinking, since I have never considered doing anything to my body that is permanent, that's why I don't have any tattoos or piercings.

To expand on this a bit. I'm in my early seventies and shaved/balded my head fifteen years ago when it was still primarily a full head of hair with only temples graying-looked great, actually. Now, this many years later my hair, were I to grow it out, is white and, even if I go two or three day without shaving it, my head still looks bald. I can possibly see laser removal as a possible course to take if you're quite young and want to avoid what can be a chore and a bore. However, if you've already substantially gray and have kept most of your hair you may want to remember that, usually, gray turns white as pigmentation fails. Then you can go the silver fox route or the, preferred sly look.  Nothing wrong with using a laser but I would have serious concerns about the professional ability of the doctor/technician doing. For a time, and perhaps still, any doctor could give Botox injections and there was a rush to offer them to their patients. However when my dentist offered me a "sample" to remove a line in my forehead I changed dentists. There are risks and as many have noted, before one begins, it's best to know considerable about who is doing the procedure.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Bald-E-1 on August 05, 2013, 08:28:04 AM
Hello gents,

i just thought i should share my great experience of my first laser treatment, which i've had just an hour ago.
After browsing online for a place, im really happy to of found a really good laser specialist clinic with an Alexandrite machine  in Islington, London, UK - The Angel Laser Clinic.
After a phonecall i was immediately pleased to find that i was talking to someone with experience of scalps and detailed and attentive knoledge of the treatment, much of the information on this thread was mentioned so i felt assured. I phoned Saturday and was booked in for a consultation and test patch the following day.
I was asked questions about medical history and my skin type, how it reacts to the sun etc. They then explained everything i needed to know and evaluated my skin type in order to choose the right laser, of which they have 3-4 types i believe.
I have a normal to olive skin type and dark hair so the Alexandrite machine was chosen (Italian parents, although i can get quite pasty my skin reacts well to the sun and i get a nice golden brown).
They then cleaned and shaved a patch on either side of my head for testing, a few zaps, then they applied some aloe gel and spf50.
I was told to give this test 24 hours. I managed to book a treatment for the following day, if the test went well.

Although slightly sore, i was surprised that it wasn't as red or spotty as i imagined it would be, in fact after an hour it was fine. The only thing i noticed was a slight swelling in the area.
Nonetheless, i returned today for my treatment, was examined and was assured that i have reacted well to the laser, so i went ahead with the treatment.
I was nervous on my way to the clinic, i felt since i had only discovered it this Saturday gone, i was perhaps rushing into it, although i had zero doubt that this was my best option.
However, with their professionalism and patience, i was soon calmed and felt reassured about the entire process and maintenance.

So the treatment ; the scalp was cleaned and i was then given a mirror to offer input on where exactly the laser should stop (since im not having the top done, only the sides), she then marked it with a pencil and i also suggested the line for where the beard/facial hair meets the scalp hair (sideburns) as i wanted to keep the natural meeting point.
With goggles in place she began the treatment and made sure i would inform her if i wanted her to stop or pause.

Well, it zings, theres no doubt about that lol. I would compare it to being quickly prodded with a soldering iron.
However, it is manageable. I think its mind over matter, realising that pain is only a warning that damage is being done. She helped at points by talking to me and that does distract you. Otherwise, if you just drift off into thought you'll 'miss' alot of the pain. You'll find that the coarser hairs hurt a bit more than the others so you will be in a sort of sharp pain then relief situation.
She was very thorough and it was actually over in no time at all. One thorough application of aloe gel later and i was done !
I was examined by the head practitioner and she was pleased with the results. Again, although this time it was a little red which disapeared by the time i reached home, i was surprised how normal it looked.
Right now (a couple hours later) - it looks perfectly normal, from some angles you can see it is slightly swollen in areas, but im sure by the end of today they will be further reduced.

I've been advised to avoid any products, sun exposure, sweating etc for the next 48 hours and to use a pure aloe gel and most importantly to cover up the area with a SPF50 sun lotion everyday while im having the treatments. This will help to keep an even complextion. Btw, fwiw, i was told to shave the area before the treatment and that shaving was ok following a good week or so of recovery. I will probably use a clipper anyway.

My next treatment is in a months time !

Sorry if this was a bit long winded, but i thought that some of the titbits may help somebody somewhere..

I'll also try to get some photos up a bit later, although i don't have a 'before' pic.

Anyway, i really enjoyed the experience and im now feeling really good about finally getting rid of it all.

Good luck out there ;)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BirdJanitor on August 05, 2013, 02:41:19 PM
Hi gents -

First time poster, long time lurker.

I was glad to find this place, especially this thread.

At three treatments with the Quanta Eterna Giovinezza, skin type II to III (tans well, doesn't often burn), previously mousy brown hair, I'm delighted so far with the results.

The first treatment started with 12.  Second at 14.  Third at 16.

I'm almost 55, with fine hair and a high hairline my entire life.  No serious balding, though it thinned a little on top a few years ago.  I did an allover buzzcut at a #2 to #0, depending on mood of desired hairlessness for many years.

In truth, I really wanted to go bald for decades.

I started shaving sly a year ago after a friend said I ought to just shave it completely.  Yowza, he was right, even though he now says he was just kidding.

I decided in May to transition to permanently bald-by-choice.  Love the look, hate the process. I'm the kind of guy who likes to be out the door in 20 (shaved-showered-dressed).

The first two sessions weren't too painful and recovery took only a few hours.  I was in the sun without discomfort about four hours after the first treatment.

The third session was intense. Less so that a lot of the ink I have, so I was able to go to that place in my head to shut down the pain.  I was visibly red and swollen a few hours afterward.  This lasted a few days.

Each session has taken about 45 minutes.

My therapist has taken care each time to carefully mark the transition from scalp to beard because I want to maintain the option of full facial hair (I wear a scruffy goatee currently).

Currently, I'm visibly bald on top and both sides, with no discernible hairline.  The skin tone on the top of my head exactly matches my forehead.  I haven't started shedding from the third treatment, and I'm still visibly patchy in back.

I'd start this all over again in a heartbeat.  I've wanted to be bald my entire adult life and it took finding this place to give me the confidence to go for it.

Jef
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on August 05, 2013, 06:27:50 PM
I went through 2 sessions and one touch-up, and it's almost there. I have left 10% of hair, and only a fraction of it's growing. I'm really really happy with results and I don't need to shave it every other day. I can just see how my beard hair is growing, and I hate imagining shaving the head also. Every other session is 50% less painful. But I guess it depends on how dense your hair is and how fast it goes away.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: InTroubleNow on August 06, 2013, 12:49:12 AM
Hi Gents,

i'm very glad to have found this place!

Has anyone here experiences concerning removing transplanted hair via laser? I'm planning to shave my head to the bone and afraid how will it look like, when the transplanted hairs will grow back and will be visible.

As I have very thin blonde hairs. My Dermatologist told me, that there would possibly be no chance to kill them via laser. Has anyone had success with laser ans blonde hairs?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: derekpschoen on September 30, 2013, 10:04:44 PM
Hi everyone, I've been shaving my head for about 17 years and I'm a long time lurker on this forum.  I'm wondering if those who have gone through with the laser treatments can comment on how their hair is now.  Does it grow at all?  Is it 100% completely gone?  Is it just peach fuzz?  Is it nearly the same as it was before the treatments but it just grows much slower?  Thanks for any input.  I really appreciate it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldstu on October 01, 2013, 02:26:01 AM
Hi gents -

First time poster, long time lurker.

I was glad to find this place, especially this thread.

At three treatments with the Quanta Eterna Giovinezza, skin type II to III (tans well, doesn't often burn), previously mousy brown hair, I'm delighted so far with the results.

The first treatment started with 12.  Second at 14.  Third at 16.

I'm almost 55, with fine hair and a high hairline my entire life.  No serious balding, though it thinned a little on top a few years ago.  I did an allover buzzcut at a #2 to #0, depending on mood of desired hairlessness for many years.

In truth, I really wanted to go bald for decades.

I started shaving sly a year ago after a friend said I ought to just shave it completely.  Yowza, he was right, even though he now says he was just kidding.

I decided in May to transition to permanently bald-by-choice.  Love the look, hate the process. I'm the kind of guy who likes to be out the door in 20 (shaved-showered-dressed).

The first two sessions weren't too painful and recovery took only a few hours.  I was in the sun without discomfort about four hours after the first treatment.

The third session was intense. Less so that a lot of the ink I have, so I was able to go to that place in my head to shut down the pain.  I was visibly red and swollen a few hours afterward.  This lasted a few days.

Each session has taken about 45 minutes.

My therapist has taken care each time to carefully mark the transition from scalp to beard because I want to maintain the option of full facial hair (I wear a scruffy goatee currently).

Currently, I'm visibly bald on top and both sides, with no discernible hairline.  The skin tone on the top of my head exactly matches my forehead.  I haven't started shedding from the third treatment, and I'm still visibly patchy in back.

I'd start this all over again in a heartbeat.  I've wanted to be bald my entire adult life and it took finding this place to give me the confidence to go for it.

Jef

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on October 03, 2013, 03:36:34 PM
Hi everyone, I've been shaving my head for about 17 years and I'm a long time lurker on this forum.  I'm wondering if those who have gone through with the laser treatments can comment on how their hair is now.  Does it grow at all?  Is it 100% completely gone?  Is it just peach fuzz?  Is it nearly the same as it was before the treatments but it just grows much slower?  Thanks for any input.  I really appreciate it.

Here's what I wrote almost 3 months ago:


3 Weeks have passed since my 8/9th treatment.

Here's my overall experience:

Be prepared for 1 year of embarassing moments (wearing a cap to cover the patches).

But today, I can finally say that have absolutely zero shadow.  ;D

It seems to me it was one of the best decisions of my life!


I will stay around to help anyone who is still on the fence and looking for help!

Have a great weekend!


Its really cool not having the embarassing shadow anymore (Im still in my 20's).

Anyway, I will have another session next week, so you can see that the process is quite long..

Since last week, I started shaving every other day because some of the hair is starting to grow back.. Obviously is really thin and most of it is light coloured so unless you rub my head, you wouldnt really notice it.

I might need 2 more sessions in order to get the results Im looking for.

Cheers
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldstu on October 07, 2013, 12:46:14 PM
I investigated this place in The Angel , quite reasonable and I would do it if I had the dosh £685 for 6sessions
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Mr Jules on October 07, 2013, 02:19:06 PM
I investigated this place in The Angel , quite reasonable and I would do it if I had the dosh £685 for 6sessions

You serious ?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: isleepinthebuff on October 07, 2013, 04:48:59 PM
why? surely shaving is enough?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldstu on October 08, 2013, 07:32:41 AM
Yeah if it works , saves shaving it
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on October 08, 2013, 02:33:57 PM

Disclaimer:
Laser hair removal does NOT REPLACE Shaving.

The point is that now I can shave in less than 5 min, and the shadow is gone (the only hair I have left is very thin and light).


Any of you guys have decided to go undergo this procedure?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldstu on October 09, 2013, 07:19:48 AM
Many thanks San Cisco for your wordsof wisdom
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on October 14, 2013, 11:58:22 AM
Just had my 10th Session! I feel like freakin Superman  ;D
The power was set to 20 (Candela Alexandrite 18mm), and boy it hurts.


One piece of advice I just found out:
Shave your head just before each session. It hurts a lot less and it is a lot more effective!


Finally, for the guys still on the fence:
One year from now, you will wish you had started today!
I am very, Very, happy I had the guts to do it, and not be embarassed with my hair anymore.
Its up to you now.

Please enjoy your day!


P.S. I have been asked several times how much do I pay for each session: I am paying 75$ a pop.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Texas Bald on October 23, 2013, 01:29:16 PM
Hi Y'all, just found this site and am glad I did. I have had my head shaved on and off for almost twenty years and recently decided to have the permanent look. Took some discussing with the wife but she understood. I have a full head of hair with a balding spot in the back and a little up front. I went to a major clinic here in Texas that does full scalp laser removal. They explained to me all the issues and i totally accept it. I have my first session this Friday and will let it known how the process goes. Look forward to sharing my experience with you all.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldstu on October 23, 2013, 03:33:40 PM
Good luck texas
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Cave Dweller on October 26, 2013, 10:48:37 AM
So, Texas, how did it go?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Texas Bald on October 26, 2013, 02:29:09 PM
Hi Guys, well I got thru my first laser treatment and it friggin hurt but worth every moment. The laser tech did a great job. Total time was 50 minutes with Genolase. I had no swelling and nothing noticeably red. Took a few Advil and a six pack of beer when i got home and I feel great today. I have more to say but for now this is the best decision I've made for going bald permanent. Will keep you updated. Later.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldstu on October 29, 2013, 02:06:27 AM
Congrats Texas , damn expensive this side of the great pond
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Texas Bald on October 29, 2013, 11:12:12 AM
Hi again, it's been 4 days and already noticing change. Existing hair is much much slower growing probably 3 days what one day normally would have been. I got up this morning and went to the bathroom to get ready and rubbing my head a bunch of stubble on the side of my head just came out. Wow! I didn't think it would go quite like that but I can see what it's going to look now. There is no hair or hairline on that one side. Can't wait for the next treatment. I still am shaving it but I don't have the fast growth as before. Take care and I'll update after next session.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: yasa on November 19, 2013, 03:31:58 PM
Hi everybody..

First of all i want to thank everybody that has contributed to this thread,  i stumbled upon this forum during my search of more information on hair lasering on the scalp and your experiences have made me gain the last bit of confidence i needed to make that final step. My hairline started to recede about 4-5 years ago (I'm 27 now) and i have been shaving my head for a little over 2 years now. My hair grows really fast so i have to shave it literally every morning.. i have olive skin color  and jet black hair (my parents are Sicilian) and it grows pretty fast and even after  a fresh shave you can still clearly see the shadows.. Getting rid of the shadows is really the main reason i wanted to do this.. and i guess less razor bumps and irritated skin as a result from shaving, would also be nice.

Anyway i finally made the step of contacting a laser clinic (they dont use actual laser machines but IPL).. My first appointment is next week and i cant wait! However for the people that have been through this procedure i was wondering :

- Do the shadows REALLY disappear or are they just less noticeable ? Because everybody keeps saying that the hair does grow back but just a lot thinner and lighter, so i was wondering if the hair actually grows back how does that solve the shadow issue ?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Texas Bald on November 22, 2013, 08:01:28 PM
Hi Guys, I had my second session today and it went very well. I actually took 3 Advils and put Z-caine, a topical pain reliever, all over my head and it worked great. After completion I could tell a change. I do have grey hair and yes I am going to have that removed also by electrolysis. In fact I have an appointment in two weeks for an electrolysis consultation and how to proceed. I had a different laser tech this time and she really did a great job. She explained to me that I wouldn't believe how many men are having this done. When I asked her how many she said she alone has performed laser hair removal for over two dozen men in the last 16 months. She said even her boyfriend is having it done and had a full head of hair before starting. I was blown away to say the least. But what really made my day was several women in the front area were very complementary about my bald head and how it was nice to seeing men taking such bold actions for their grooming. Serious that was what one woman told me. I was impressed. Anyway this has made my decision in total hair removal that much more solid. Can't wait to get this finished. I have 4 more laser sessions and no telling how many electrolysis sessions but I'll let the group know after my consultation. If those of you out there are considering I say go for it. Till next report.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: EarlBald on November 22, 2013, 08:07:08 PM
I'm tempted to try it, but I just started consistently shaving my head.  Also, maybe the price will decline over the years.  At this rate, I think I'll be ready for it in about five years.  I am interested in hearing stories about lasering off what's left.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on November 23, 2013, 12:22:36 PM
Hi everybody..

First of all i want to thank everybody that has contributed to this thread,  i stumbled upon this forum during my search of more information on hair lasering on the scalp and your experiences have made me gain the last bit of confidence i needed to make that final step. My hairline started to recede about 4-5 years ago (I'm 27 now) and i have been shaving my head for a little over 2 years now. My hair grows really fast so i have to shave it literally every morning.. i have olive skin color  and jet black hair (my parents are Sicilian) and it grows pretty fast and even after  a fresh shave you can still clearly see the shadows.. Getting rid of the shadows is really the main reason i wanted to do this.. and i guess less razor bumps and irritated skin as a result from shaving, would also be nice.

Anyway i finally made the step of contacting a laser clinic (they dont use actual laser machines but IPL).. My first appointment is next week and i cant wait! However for the people that have been through this procedure i was wondering :

- Do the shadows REALLY disappear or are they just less noticeable ? Because everybody keeps saying that the hair does grow back but just a lot thinner and lighter, so i was wondering if the hair actually grows back how does that solve the shadow issue ?

Yes mate, the shadows REALLY disappear!

I was really worried in the beggining, but 1,5 years through I can tell you that now I shave every 3 days (and thats only because it takes me 5 min to shave it off completely).



Worth all the pain and embarrassment during the treatments (patches) and every single penny!

Only you can decide.. but Im really, really glad I had the guts to do it!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on December 09, 2013, 12:53:33 PM
Hi Guys, I had my second session today and it went very well. I actually took 3 Advils and put Z-caine, a topical pain reliever, all over my head and it worked great. After completion I could tell a change. I do have grey hair and yes I am going to have that removed also by electrolysis. In fact I have an appointment in two weeks for an electrolysis consultation and how to proceed. I had a different laser tech this time and she really did a great job. She explained to me that I wouldn't believe how many men are having this done. When I asked her how many she said she alone has performed laser hair removal for over two dozen men in the last 16 months. She said even her boyfriend is having it done and had a full head of hair before starting. I was blown away to say the least. But what really made my day was several women in the front area were very complementary about my bald head and how it was nice to seeing men taking such bold actions for their grooming. Serious that was what one woman told me. I was impressed. Anyway this has made my decision in total hair removal that much more solid. Can't wait to get this finished. I have 4 more laser sessions and no telling how many electrolysis sessions but I'll let the group know after my consultation. If those of you out there are considering I say go for it. Till next report.

How is the treatment going do far, Texas Bald?

I am happy to announce that I have only 1 session left to go!!  O0 (Due in 45 days).

Later guys
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: yasa on December 10, 2013, 07:38:41 AM
I had my first treatment last wednesday and BOY does it hurt! But it was manageable i guess.. It took about 30 minutes and my head was really red and swollen for about 3 days. No hairs have fallen out as of yet but the technician told me that wouldnt happen untill atleast 10 to 20 days after the treatment.

@san cisco thanks for the reaction.. so from what i understand your hair has grown back a bit ? because that is what i am afraid of, going through all this pain and being really excited with early result just to have those hairs grow back a year later. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on December 10, 2013, 10:11:38 AM
If In'm not mistaken, in an earlier post, Laser hair removal does not replace shaving....all it does is make the hair grow much much slower to grow and makes shaving easier, though there is a chance in later years, that hair will stop growing altogether if alopecia/MPB kicks in....YMMV.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on December 12, 2013, 01:34:06 PM
I had my first treatment last wednesday and BOY does it hurt! But it was manageable i guess.. It took about 30 minutes and my head was really red and swollen for about 3 days. No hairs have fallen out as of yet but the technician told me that wouldnt happen untill atleast 10 to 20 days after the treatment.

@san cisco thanks for the reaction.. so from what i understand your hair has grown back a bit ? because that is what i am afraid of, going through all this pain and being really excited with early result just to have those hairs grow back a year later. 

Way to go buddy! Here's my 2 cents worth of advice Pos-treatment:
SOFTLY, try to wash and brush your head as many times as you can, as it will speed up the shedding process.

In the first couple of days, after each treatment, it will hurt just to touch your scalp (like a sunburn).
Anyway, as soon as you start washing and brushing it (with a loofa or so), your hair will all fall out much faster (give or take 1 week).


Answering your question:
I have like 2% hair left, so the shadows are gone a long time ago..
Keep in mind that the shadows are just the contrast (in color and texture) of the areas that have hair next to the ones that are bald..

Now, I have no idea which Laser equipment you are using, but if you use the same I did (Alexandrite) I can guarantee you that despite the pain, the hair follicle will either be dead after 8/9 sessions or so thin, you wont even notice it.

I apologize once again for my english as Im not a native speaker, but I think you get my point.
Cheers
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: yasa on December 13, 2013, 06:41:31 AM
Way to go buddy! Here's my 2 cents worth of advice Pos-treatment:
SOFTLY, try to wash and brush your head as many times as you can, as it will speed up the shedding process.

In the first couple of days, after each treatment, it will hurt just to touch your scalp (like a sunburn).
Anyway, as soon as you start washing and brushing it (with a loofa or so), your hair will all fall out much faster (give or take 1 week).


Answering your question:
I have like 2% hair left, so the shadows are gone a long time ago..
Keep in mind that the shadows are just the contrast (in color and texture) of the areas that have hair next to the ones that are bald..

Now, I have no idea which Laser equipment you are using, but if you use the same I did (Alexandrite) I can guarantee you that despite the pain, the hair follicle will either be dead after 8/9 sessions or so thin, you wont even notice it.

I apologize once again for my english as Im not a native speaker, but I think you get my point.
Cheers


Thanks again for answerring. Yeah i didnt wash my head the first couple of days at all because it hurt so much just touching it.. i figured washing it would irritate it even more. And i am noticing that some parts are not growing back as fast as others and i have been shedding some hairs here and there..  as fas as the laser equipment, i really have no idea what type of laser it is.. all i know is they call it ELOS and it is a combination of light and high frequency waves. They recommended this laser for me because i am brown skinned and using other lasers would risk damaging my skin (too much melanin in my skin).

p.s. your english is perfectly fine.. i should be apoloziging (also not a native speaker )  :P
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on December 15, 2013, 03:04:11 PM
Brother I guess you are doing YAG then.. (right?)
Anyways, everything you have been experiencing is totally normal and happened to me as well!  O0

By the way, how many days are you giving in between sessions?
Cheers mate
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: yasa on December 15, 2013, 05:36:15 PM
Brother I guess you are doing YAG then.. (right?)
Anyways, everything you have been experiencing is totally normal and happened to me as well!  O0

By the way, how many days are you giving in between sessions?
Cheers mate
Im not sure.. they call it ELOS.. My next appointment is january the 18th.. so 6 weeks in between sessions.

Another thing that is starting bother me is that it has been 11 days and i still have redness on the spots that got zapped.. they have faded a bit but still very noticeable.. starting to worry a little bit about that to be honest.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on December 16, 2013, 07:50:25 AM
Yeah those 6/8 weeks is the standard.

Have you been applying Lotion 2/3 times a day? (Like Aloe vera or so?)

Looks like your skin is still sore.. I dont think thats a problem though, just try to wash your head twice a day and apply lots of moisturizer..


Any idea what power settings did you use?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: yasa on December 16, 2013, 10:28:15 AM
Yeah those 6/8 weeks is the standard.

Have you been applying Lotion 2/3 times a day? (Like Aloe vera or so?)

Looks like your skin is still sore.. I dont think thats a problem though, just try to wash your head twice a day and apply lots of moisturizer..


Any idea what power settings did you use?
I have been applying lotion but only the last couple of days and only once a day.

She said the settings were 20-16.. with the light being set on 20 and the radio frequency 16. Mind you it is not a regular ipl laser it is an ELOS machine. here is some more info on it : http://beautycliniclotus.nl/en/273-2/
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on December 17, 2013, 05:57:30 PM
There you go.. Applying a good Lotion on your scalp at least twice a day after each session is really important to help it heal properly!
Never skip that again.

Is it still red? Maybe you pushed it a bit too hard, try to easy a bit the power settings next time ;)

Wish you the best of luck for the rest of the treatment!
Cheers everyone O0
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on December 26, 2013, 11:59:28 AM
Whats up everybody?
Any news?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: greg7039 on January 06, 2014, 06:52:22 PM
San Cisco,

DO have any other recent pictures since your last ones?  I couldn't tell if it was patchiness or some of your scalp was discolored or burned?  Did that go away?

Greg
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: greg7039 on January 06, 2014, 07:09:02 PM
San Cisco,

Can you email me some final pics of your progress.  The one I saw back in the summer was crazy.  What is your email?  Or email me at gregodonnell3@gmail.com

thank you for all of your help to us fencers!!!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: yasa on January 07, 2014, 06:12:49 AM
Hello everybody..

It has been 5 weeks since my first treatment and i am about to go in for my second treatment next week on the 18th. The redness has finally faded away this week.. i started shedding most hairs after 2,5 weeks. I am now left with a bunch of bald spots on the top of my head and on the sides. The back of my head didn't seem to react at all.. apart from a few spots in the bottom all my hair is still there in the back. But i guess there were more hairs there or maybe they were deeper because she sure hit those spots just as hard as the rest of my head :p

The bald spots are a bit embarrassing.. but i guess i knew that this was going to be one of the downsides of this treatment and i just have to be patient. I will be asking her to overlap a bit more on the next treatment cuz i have noticed that some spots on the side and the top that still have hair are the spots she couldn't reach.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on January 07, 2014, 12:08:18 PM
San Cisco,

DO have any other recent pictures since your last ones?  I couldn't tell if it was patchiness or some of your scalp was discolored or burned?  Did that go away?

Greg

Hello everybody..

It has been 5 weeks since my first treatment and i am about to go in for my second treatment next week on the 18th. The redness has finally faded away this week.. i started shedding most hairs after 2,5 weeks. I am now left with a bunch of bald spots on the top of my head and on the sides. The back of my head didn't seem to react at all.. apart from a few spots in the bottom all my hair is still there in the back. But i guess there were more hairs there or maybe they were deeper because she sure hit those spots just as hard as the rest of my head :p

The bald spots are a bit embarrassing.. but i guess i knew that this was going to be one of the downsides of this treatment and i just have to be patient. I will be asking her to overlap a bit more on the next treatment cuz i have noticed that some spots on the side and the top that still have hair are the spots she couldn't reach.


Yasa, I went through the exact same process.
Your head is looking similar to mine a few months ago (and probably similar to the the photo I took in the summer, which is the one Greg7039 is talking about).

Here's what happens:
Each session, you strike a Laser into your hair follicles. The goal here is to burn them out, turning them thiner and weaker after each session.

Of course, some hair is thicker and deeper than the rest, and thats why it will take them longer to be removed, hence the patches on your head..
This process will take some time but hey- its worth it!

You can go through some of my previous posts, and you will see how terrified I was with the fear of the treatment not going in the right direction.. It was scary as sh*t having patches of burnt hair all over my head for a few days and embarassed enough not to go out or at least never without a cap.

Anyway, right now, I have no hair in my head, absolutely no shadow and no worrying with the look every morning.
(I would probably shave once a week - just to keep it 100% smooth)
Again, it was painfull having to go through the whole process - and indeed I was scared and feeling regret of having done it as I had no idea what the outcome would be.


Thankfully, I have no scar or any sign whatsoever of the treatment, which Im sure will be the case with you!
It was definitely one of my best decisions ever.



P.S. I had great results after 10 sessions and using ALEXANDRITE laser. Aside from that and YAG Laser - (for darker skins), my doctor wouldnt recomend any other laser for effective treatments.

Best of Luck to all of you.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on January 07, 2014, 12:36:10 PM
Here's another thing I have been asked a few of times:

I remember that a couple of weeks after my 7, 8 and 9th treatment, I thought I didnt need any other session because all the hair had fallen out, besides I already didnt have any shadow or patches.

The truth is, it takes around 1/2 weeks after each session, for all the hair to fall out - BUT - around 1 month later, it will start to slowly grow again, of course a lot thinner and weaker - but remember - it will grow anyway.


Thats why I was mislead by the results during the whole process and indeed it takes about 10 sessions for optimum results, meaning that after 10 sessions the hair is so thin and light you wont really notice it until at least 5 days after each shave.

 O0
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: yasa on January 07, 2014, 04:57:22 PM
If it wasn't for this forum i would probably be worried as well right now.. but having read through most of the stories i was already prepared and i know it is just a case of sticking it out until the end.

The patches are definitely embarrassing and it has affected my social life because i hardly leave the house without a cap but i figure it will all be worth it in the end. If i can walk around years with a receding hairline knowing it was only going to get worse, i can surely handle a year of embarrassment knowing that i will finally be shadowfree when it is all over.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Itall on January 08, 2014, 05:41:26 PM
I will echo San Ciasco's post. I had the same experience. Patchy spots for a while. Eventually with continued treatment it all works out. Very happy with my results. Hang in there. It's worth it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on January 09, 2014, 12:48:54 PM
Ok, here's a couple of photos for all those still on the fence:

The first is the back of my head 4 days after my last shave. As you all can see, no shadow or patches whatsoever.

The second is my beard 18 hours after my last shave, where the shadow is pretty clear, although less dense than what my hair used to be.


You have to be patiente about this process, but its pretty clear that in the end, its totally worth it!!
One final piece of advice:
Always schedule your session 2/3 weeks before any important appoitment you might have. That way, you can probably avoid some of the initial patchiness.

Good luck guys!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on January 09, 2014, 12:53:42 PM
The previous attachment was too big, here's the second photo.


Greg7039, you have now 5x the information and experience I had when I decided to go for it.
Dont think I can help you much more.

Have a great day!  O0
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: EarlBald on January 09, 2014, 04:54:25 PM
Wow, San Cisco--I'm impressed!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Bilko1 on January 10, 2014, 02:05:26 PM
Hi guys!

Hope you are all well.

Since I began epilating my scalp a few years ago, I have now come to the conclusion that it is time that I took the ultimate step & opted for a permanently bald head. I decided at the beginning of this year that I will become a happy permanently bald guy this year, so I have a consultation with a dermatologist this Wednesday coming at a specialist salon in Edinburgh. I'm a little nervous & excited all at the same time and not entirely sure what to expect at the initial consultation.

I never honestly thought that one day that I would want to be a bald guy by choice.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on January 14, 2014, 11:23:17 AM
If it wasn't for this forum i would probably be worried as well right now.. but having read through most of the stories i was already prepared and i know it is just a case of sticking it out until the end.

The patches are definitely embarrassing and it has affected my social life because i hardly leave the house without a cap but i figure it will all be worth it in the end. If i can walk around years with a receding hairline knowing it was only going to get worse, i can surely handle a year of embarrassment knowing that i will finally be shadowfree when it is all over.

Buddy,
Hows it going?
Seeing better results lately?

greg7039,
Seen the photos I posted a few days ago?
Feel more confident?

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Bilko1 on January 15, 2014, 06:28:11 AM
Well, today is Wednesday, 15th January....... and in an hour and a half's time I will be sat in the dermatologists salon & having my scalp examined to see what method the dermatologist is going to use to remove the remainder of my hair & how long the course of treatment will have to be.

Am a little nervous, to say the least!!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: yasa on January 15, 2014, 06:30:16 AM
Hi cisco..

I am only just going in for my 2nd treatment this saturday. Today it has been exactly 6 weeks since my first treatment. The redness has faded away and most of the bald spots are still the same size.. but on some of them there has been some very minor regrowth this week resulting in a little decrease in size but none of the spots have grown back completely.

Like you said i figured around 4 weeks after you start shedding hairs the follicles that didnt get burned as badly start coming back. But what i have noticed is that the hair that has grown back in those bald spots is not weaker or thinner it is the same as it was before. Is that anything to be worried about ?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on January 15, 2014, 06:38:22 AM
San Cisco, that looks like a nice job! Bilko, good luck today, hope it's all that you wanted!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: yasa on January 15, 2014, 06:49:10 AM
@cisco
i forgot to ask you something.. when you dont shave for lets say two weeks.. the hair that does grow back is it all over your head or is it just little spots here and there ? so does this mean that there are spots where there is absolutely no hair growth anymore

from what i understood after just talking with my therapist.. only a part of the head is in the growth fase and after a treatment according to her it is normal that some hair grows back because those are the follicles that were not in the growth fase and could not be fully destroyed at that time. she went on to explain that everybody has so called ''sleeping'' hairs that were not active but can be activated after awhile but these hairs are always a lot thinner and weaker..
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: wpruitt on January 16, 2014, 04:24:57 PM
San Cisco, Looks like a keeper
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on January 19, 2014, 03:23:21 PM
Wow, San Cisco--I'm impressed!

San Cisco, Looks like a keeper

San Cisco, that looks like a nice job! Bilko, good luck today, hope it's all that you wanted!

Thank you guys!
Feels great to hear that, specially after such a long treatment.. it was worth it!  O0


@cisco
i forgot to ask you something.. when you dont shave for lets say two weeks.. the hair that does grow back is it all over your head or is it just little spots here and there ? so does this mean that there are spots where there is absolutely no hair growth anymore

from what i understood after just talking with my therapist.. only a part of the head is in the growth fase and after a treatment according to her it is normal that some hair grows back because those are the follicles that were not in the growth fase and could not be fully destroyed at that time. she went on to explain that everybody has so called ''sleeping'' hairs that were not active but can be activated after awhile but these hairs are always a lot thinner and weaker..

Hey mate,
Hope you'r seeing better results latelly!

What your therapist told you is spot on. I still have some hair growing all over my head, but you couldnt tell!
I can go 5/6 days without shaving and you wouldnt notice a single hair because they are really thin and light (just like the picture I posted last time).

Now that I think about it, I could probably remove the remaining hair with a couple more sessions.. and one touch-up every couple of years (in case some of it would grow back).

I wont do it anyway, because my goal was "simply"removing the shadow while avoiding the pain of shaving every day. Those goals were met so I am really happy with the results.

Have a great week everybody!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on January 22, 2014, 05:21:06 PM
Greetings. I went though 5 sessions, it's time for the 6-th. And it's the first time after more than a month since last procedure there's so little hair left it's almost invisible. I will go through another sessions, as it may be hair will grow back.
http://i44.tinypic.com/28jvbwh.jpg

It's strange realizing I won't have hair ever. It's still something that seems unreal to me. But if to chose from shaving and horseshoe and this, this is 100% better for me. The feeling, the look, it's great. I didn't believe when guys wrote it's the one of best things in their life they did. But now I can relate to it. You can appreciate it only after wearing the horseshoe for 10 years.

I plan going through another 3-4 sessions. Heopefully it will get me to 90%. I doublt I can go to 100%, if it's possible at all. It already took me half a year.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Hair Removal Secrets on February 11, 2014, 04:53:15 AM
Since you're doing it for yourself, and not to mention you really want to get rid of the scars on your scalp - you better find the best scalp scar removal may it be a product and/or a procedure.For more information visit about laser hair removal (http://hairremovalsecrets.net/).
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Texas Bald on February 15, 2014, 12:22:55 PM
Hi Guys, sorry for being absent but got real sick over holidays and just am now back in the groove. I've had two sessions since I last wrote and is going fairly well. One exception has been I had two different laser techs and they used a much narrow focused beam which is not covering the total scalp and has created "circles" in my scalp. I'm not happy about however the management has agreed to compensate me. Still I'm happy with my progress. I have another session coming up in a few weeks and will let you know. Take it easy.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gozman on February 16, 2014, 12:07:42 PM
To anyone against this procedure you don't seem to get it do you? Shaving your head does not mean you are no longer balding. You are still a balding man, and everyone can see that. Bald =/= balding and that's my opinion. Right now I'm a norwood 2 with diffuse thinning in a 3a pattern. After taking propecia for a year and getting no results and sides I decided to quit and look into other options. Laser hair removal is the only way to fight baldness, not shaving, not pathetic transplants and especially not smp (though after getting your scalp lasered, doing smp may actually make much more sense). Everytime I see that norwood 5/6/7 curtain shadow on a balding man I cringe and would rather die than sport that.  

I'm only 23 and plan on fighting baldness head on. To anyone who is my age and is thinking about shaving do it to test out your new look, not as a permanently solution, because it couldn't be further from the truth. I can clearly see my receding hairline even though I'm always shaved. I can see that I'm diffuse thinning from the higher ratio of white gaps in my frontal region compared to my crown and sides (confirmed by letting it grow out).

I just want to be a bald man, and not a balding man. I don't want to wake up every morning, look in the mirror and constantly see that I'm balding. Imagine waking up every morning and seeing an extra wrinkle on your face everyday. It happens way too fast balding to be able to emotionally confront it like aging.

And that my friends, is why laser is a viable option, and anyone who is conscience of the way they look (mostly attractive people) will see that.

Btw I'm looking to get this done once my crown starts thinning and to everyone shaving their heads after this procedure, that's just silly. Buy an epilator, it won't be that painful due to the remaining hair being very thin, and eventually all the hairs will get damaged and stop growing.

Another thing I do not like this site, period. But I came across this thread when searching for people with laser hair removal experience on the head. It seems many people in this thread actually want to take some serious steps in overcoming baldness, and aren't in denial about the way they look.

One last thing, if you wanna go for the more matt look (which is waaaay better imho), try this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Garnier-Skin-Naturals-Pure-Sebum/dp/B0045ZSBM0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1392578653&sr=8-1&keywords=anti+shine
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on February 16, 2014, 06:23:54 PM
Gozman, good luck to you. You are entitled to your opinion and we respect it, however we don't entertain trolls...If you can't find what you are looking for, you are free to leave this site, no questions asked. Have a great day.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gozman on February 18, 2014, 01:14:03 PM
Gozman, good luck to you. You are entitled to your opinion and we respect it, however we don't entertain trolls...If you can't find what you are looking for, you are free to leave this site, no questions asked. Have a great day.

You were doing well until you accused me of being a troll.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on February 18, 2014, 03:13:56 PM
Gozman, good luck to you. You are entitled to your opinion and we respect it, however we don't entertain trolls...If you can't find what you are looking for, you are free to leave this site, no questions asked. Have a great day.

You were doing well until you accused me of being a troll.

Gozman, I didn't mean to come across as accusing you of being a troll. But looking at your first two posts, (which was borderline trollish), you were against this site being positive which got some members angry. In response to your second post, no one said anything against laser removal. Most members, however may not have the funds to support it. That said, you are welcome to disagree with any post as long as it's not an attack on other members. Once again, if you don't like the site you are free to leave. Good luck.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gozman on February 18, 2014, 09:19:48 PM
I think the whole laser on the dome is just retarded, it's one thing if an individual has skin problems so severe that they can't shave but just to do it for aesthetics and ease of use is not worth it.  ( If I offend any retarded people, deal with it )

I can think of many better things to do with that kind of money, sorry guys I just can't see it.    :/O

Just two examples. I'm a realist not a troll, and I can't help dislike sites like this. However, I find this section of the forum helpful and applaud everyone who was brave enough to undergo this procedure themselves!

It's one thing to say a person looks good after a shaved head and ban every post that says otherwise, but it's another to be honest and provide fair criticism (which this site doesn't do). I know how devastating hairloss can be, I almost took my own life. I had long luscious hair and now I always shave my head no guard. When I shaved my head I realized that I actually look pretty damn good (and am extremely lucky for that).

Hairloss has taught me one extremely valuable albeit depressing lesson. In life we lose things we hold dear to ourselves...deal with it.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on February 18, 2014, 11:54:39 PM
Gozman, I guess we will have to file this under "we will have to agree to disagree" I will say that I am happy that you found a subject that is of interest to you. I will give you some credit for finding those two particular posts, but I didn't feel like scrolling through 50 pages of posts. I'm so sorry that your hairloss is stopping from you living a full life, but I also want to tell you that not all of our members shave their heads. Some keep short buzzcuts, some may clippershave, etc., etc. The purpose of this site is to show men that they can live normal and exciting lives in spite of their hairloss. I hope you're not a member of that hairloss help.com site....I personally do not like that site, because most of the men there come across as whiny and almost every story is a tale of woe....but I don't go on there attacking them because of their negativity. I have nothing against laser hair removal, however, I don't have the money to invest in such. But if (when) you go through your treatment, I wish you well and hope that it's what you want

P.S. I'm going to challenge you (nicely) to post a picture of yourself...I bet you're making a big deal out of nothing.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Tyler on February 19, 2014, 01:59:33 AM
I think the whole laser on the dome is just retarded, it's one thing if an individual has skin problems so severe that they can't shave but just to do it for aesthetics and ease of use is not worth it.  ( If I offend any retarded people, deal with it )

I can think of many better things to do with that kind of money, sorry guys I just can't see it.    :/O

Just two examples. I'm a realist not a troll, and I can't help dislike sites like this. However, I find this section of the forum helpful and applaud everyone who was brave enough to undergo this procedure themselves!

It's one thing to say a person looks good after a shaved head and ban every post that says otherwise, but it's another to be honest and provide fair criticism (which this site doesn't do). I know how devastating hairloss can be, I almost took my own life. I had long luscious hair and now I always shave my head no guard. When I shaved my head I realized that I actually look pretty damn good (and am extremely lucky for that).

Hairloss has taught me one extremely valuable albeit depressing lesson. In life we lose things we hold dear to ourselves...deal with it.



Gozman, you have so much to learn.  I hope that one day you'll understand it all, but in the meantime, good luck with the laser hair removal.  It sounds like the option that's going to make YOU most happy.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Blitzed on February 19, 2014, 06:21:04 AM
Gozman, I guess we will have to file this under "we will have to agree to disagree" I will say that I am happy that you found a subject that is of interest to you. I will give you some credit for finding those two particular posts, but I didn't feel like scrolling through 50 pages of posts. I'm so sorry that your hairloss is stopping from you living a full life, but I also want to tell you that not all of our members shave their heads. Some keep short buzzcuts, some may clippershave, etc., etc. The purpose of this site is to show men that they can live normal and exciting lives in spite of their hairloss. I hope you're not a member of that hairloss help.com site....I personally do not like that site, because most of the men there come across as whiny and almost every story is a tale of woe....but I don't go on there attacking them because of their negativity. I have nothing against laser hair removal, however, I don't have the money to invest in such. But if (when) you go through your treatment, I wish you well and hope that it's what you want

P.S. I'm going to challenge you (nicely) to post a picture of yourself...I bet you're making a big deal out of nothing.

Ditto. But I must wonder....have you had a discussion with a GOOD Dermatologist? A Barber? Anyone who routinely deals with hair professionally? If you haven't and have been charmed by the allure of snake charming "laser specialist" you really need to do some research. Now, not after....
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: xnewyawka on February 19, 2014, 10:54:28 AM
gozman, I gotta just come out and say it, being where I'm from I can't hold back. You are a weak a--hole. If you feel you need to do anything such as taking your own life because you are losing your hair, you have much deeper problems bud. I too had long hair back in the day and I eventually grew out of it. When I started to realize I was losing some of my hair, it wasn't the end of the world. I always knew I would be buzzing it down short. There was never any thought of doing anything else. No hand wringing, no thoughts of ever using a drug or getting a hair piece or transplant. As a man, you deal with it and get on with life. That's how you do it. To me, I think it's pathetic the route you planned on, or even entertained the thought of taking. Good luck with wasting your money on something you can do with a blade and shave gel.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Thebaldnation on February 19, 2014, 04:00:45 PM
I think the whole laser on the dome is just retarded, it's one thing if an individual has skin problems so severe that they can't shave but just to do it for aesthetics and ease of use is not worth it.  ( If I offend any retarded people, deal with it )

I can think of many better things to do with that kind of money, sorry guys I just can't see it.    :/O

Just two examples. I'm a realist not a troll, and I can't help dislike sites like this. However, I find this section of the forum helpful and applaud everyone who was brave enough to undergo this procedure themselves!

It's one thing to say a person looks good after a shaved head and ban every post that says otherwise, but it's another to be honest and provide fair criticism (which this site doesn't do). I know how devastating hairloss can be, I almost took my own life. I had long luscious hair and now I always shave my head no guard. When I shaved my head I realized that I actually look pretty damn good (and am extremely lucky for that).

Hairloss has taught me one extremely valuable albeit depressing lesson. In life we lose things we hold dear to ourselves...deal with it.
Hair is just something that gets in the way of excellence, I'm confused you say you realized you look good after you buzzed your head but yet you also say that you almost took your own life when you lost your hair??? If you think you look good with your hair buzzed than what's the problem?? But bringing negativity to this website will get you nowhere, this website is all about positive influence for guys that are struggling with hair loss and helping them make the decision of wether or not they should shave for the first time, I found in this site a brotherhood and a bunch of great guys that support the Bald lifestyle, but good luck to you sir! 2 bad this site was not a good fit for you.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gozman on February 20, 2014, 12:18:29 AM
gozman, I gotta just come out and say it, being where I'm from I can't hold back. You are a weak a--hole. If you feel you need to do anything such as taking your own life because you are losing your hair, you have much deeper problems bud. I too had long hair back in the day and I eventually grew out of it. When I started to realize I was losing some of my hair, it wasn't the end of the world. I always knew I would be buzzing it down short. There was never any thought of doing anything else. No hand wringing, no thoughts of ever using a drug or getting a hair piece or transplant. As a man, you deal with it and get on with life. That's how you do it. To me, I think it's pathetic the route you planned on, or even entertained the thought of taking. Good luck with wasting your money on something you can do with a blade and shave gel.

You call me weak, yet you try and gain positive affirmation by joining a site like this? How contradictory. Losing your hair isn't just about losing your hair. It's a sign of death. It constantly reminds you that you are not immortal, something we ignore on a daily basis. If you are not very smart then you wont look at it that way "hur durr losing my hair now galz wont loving me"...no...that's is not why hair loss almost destroyed me.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gozman on February 20, 2014, 12:28:15 AM
I think the whole laser on the dome is just retarded, it's one thing if an individual has skin problems so severe that they can't shave but just to do it for aesthetics and ease of use is not worth it.  ( If I offend any retarded people, deal with it )

I can think of many better things to do with that kind of money, sorry guys I just can't see it.    :/O

Just two examples. I'm a realist not a troll, and I can't help dislike sites like this. However, I find this section of the forum helpful and applaud everyone who was brave enough to undergo this procedure themselves!

It's one thing to say a person looks good after a shaved head and ban every post that says otherwise, but it's another to be honest and provide fair criticism (which this site doesn't do). I know how devastating hairloss can be, I almost took my own life. I had long luscious hair and now I always shave my head no guard. When I shaved my head I realized that I actually look pretty damn good (and am extremely lucky for that).

Hairloss has taught me one extremely valuable albeit depressing lesson. In life we lose things we hold dear to ourselves...deal with it.
Hair is just something that gets in the way of excellence, I'm confused you say you realized you look good after you buzzed your head but yet you also say that you almost took your own life when you lost your hair??? If you think you look good with your hair buzzed than what's the problem?? But bringing negativity to this website will get you nowhere, this website is all about positive influence for guys that are struggling with hair loss and helping them make the decision of wether or not they should shave for the first time, I found in this site a brotherhood and a bunch of great guys that support the Bald lifestyle, but good luck to you sir! 2 bad this site was not a good fit for you.

I said before I buzzed my hair I almost took my life. I was so afraid of what I looked like with a shaved head. I took the plunge and glad I did. It saved my life because for a while I forgot I was balding. However you guys don't seem to get the difference between losing your hair and shaving your head. The difference is like tucking your arm away and having your arm cut off.

"hair is just something that gets in the way of excellence", no hair is a part of your body, like your arms/legs albeit less useful. It belonged to you, you've had it for years. You owned it. Saying hair gets in the way of excellence is silly, putting down people with hair just to make yourself feel better?

Anyway you guys can continue attacking me for being a realist, or we can just carry on with what this thread is actually about.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on February 20, 2014, 02:14:20 AM
Gozman....okay, we get it that you don't like this site....all good. We get it that this thread interests you and that you are interested in getting a laser job done....also all good....as far as the two comments about laser that offended you, well, that's what a forum is for, right? To have a tactful disagreement without attacking others...While some comments could have been worded differently, I feel as long as a comment is not an attack on a person, no harm no foul. While I think xnewyaka's response to you may have been a bit extreme, in fairness, (and I'm not taking any sides here) you started your first post in this thread with what appeared to be an attack on people who were against this procedure, and you left the door open to get an adverse response from the member who happened to be against this procedure....and remember, just like you have the right to dislike this site, being bald or whatever, it's his right to dislike this procedure, no matter how extreme his posts are/were worded. It's okay to mourn the loss of something in your life that you feel is/was important to you, and I respect your stance. Thankfully, we live in the U.S.A. where we have the choice to do with our heads whatever we feel. Do I wish I had a full head of hair? Sure, but looking at other situations that others are going through (children with cancer, combat veterans missing limbs, etc.), if hair loss is the worst thing that could happen to me, and the penalty is walking around with a shaved head with a horseshoe shadow, I think I'm living a blessed life. I'm not against getting a laser job on my head, but I have more serious needs in life, and a laser job that may not be guaranteed to work is a luxury not a necessity for me. (and if you disagree with me I respect that). Getting back to topic, gozman and fellas, this procedure, while the results look good on those who do it, and I congratulate those who went through it, it is not 100% guaranteed to work (and by the way, you still have to shave at some point, just not as frequently).....It could be risky just like an HT, minoxidil, rogaine, etc. but just like in life, when we make choices, we have to be prepared to accept the consequences for bad ones, just like we can accept the rewards for good ones. So gozman, have you found someone to do this for you, and are you going to go through with it? Either way, good luck to you, and I wish you well.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: xnewyawka on February 20, 2014, 07:14:10 PM
First off, gozman I apologize if what I said felt like an attack on you. I responded to your post too quickly, and looking back on it I should have been more careful in my wording, as was pointed out by Sir Harry.
I know it's a touchy subject and I realize it will be harder for some to deal with than others.
I feel strongly that most of what men who come to this site will get is positive encouragement. We're here to help people who are dealing with hair loss in a natural way, and by no means do we put down anyone with hair.
It's always better to take it as it comes, and I've suggested to many of the guys to buzz it down gradually before they decide to use a blade.
Anyway, I wish you luck with your future choices regarding hair loss and lasering.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gozman on February 20, 2014, 08:42:14 PM
First off, gozman I apologize if what I said felt like an attack on you. I responded to your post too quickly, and looking back on it I should have been more careful in my wording, as was pointed out by Sir Harry.
I know it's a touchy subject and I realize it will be harder for some to deal with than others.
I feel strongly that most of what men who come to this site will get is positive encouragement. We're here to help people who are dealing with hair loss in a natural way, and by no means do we put down anyone with hair.
It's always better to take it as it comes, and I've suggested to many of the guys to buzz it down gradually before they decide to use a blade.
Anyway, I wish you luck with your future choices regarding hair loss and lasering.

Tbh I expect it, as I can come across as cynical and jaded. Hair loss alone doesn't break a man. However, when you are already suffering from severe depression which you've had most of your life (childhood trauma), anxiety and anhedonia. When you've dropped out of college because of something that you couldn't control (depression), suddenly something else that you can't control is planning to once again reduce your quality of life and introduce a whole new set of problems. Things like that break a man, being kicked when already down. It can take one little thing to push a man over the edge.

Gozman....okay, we get it that you don't like this site....all good. We get it that this thread interests you and that you are interested in getting a laser job done....also all good....as far as the two comments about laser that offended you, well, that's what a forum is for, right? To have a tactful disagreement without attacking others...While some comments could have been worded differently, I feel as long as a comment is not an attack on a person, no harm no foul. While I think xnewyaka's response to you may have been a bit extreme, in fairness, (and I'm not taking any sides here) you started your first post in this thread with what appeared to be an attack on people who were against this procedure, and you left the door open to get an adverse response from the member who happened to be against this procedure....and remember, just like you have the right to dislike this site, being bald or whatever, it's his right to dislike this procedure, no matter how extreme his posts are/were worded. It's okay to mourn the loss of something in your life that you feel is/was important to you, and I respect your stance. Thankfully, we live in the U.S.A. where we have the choice to do with our heads whatever we feel. Do I wish I had a full head of hair? Sure, but looking at other situations that others are going through (children with cancer, combat veterans missing limbs, etc.), if hair loss is the worst thing that could happen to me, and the penalty is walking around with a shaved head with a horseshoe shadow, I think I'm living a blessed life. I'm not against getting a laser job on my head, but I have more serious needs in life, and a laser job that may not be guaranteed to work is a luxury not a necessity for me. (and if you disagree with me I respect that). Getting back to topic, gozman and fellas, this procedure, while the results look good on those who do it, and I congratulate those who went through it, it is not 100% guaranteed to work (and by the way, you still have to shave at some point, just not as frequently).....It could be risky just like an HT, minoxidil, rogaine, etc. but just like in life, when we make choices, we have to be prepared to accept the consequences for bad ones, just like we can accept the rewards for good ones. So gozman, have you found someone to do this for you, and are you going to go through with it? Either way, good luck to you, and I wish you well.

I won't be going foward with it yet. Currently I'm only visibly thinning in the frontal region, but my crown will slowly but surely give in. Once I spot that bald spot, off to the laser clinic.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on February 21, 2014, 12:48:26 PM
Gozman, you have found the best website to address your hair loss.

Look, you are losing your hair! So, how to deal with it? Shave it all off and start a new life! Embrace what has now been thrust infront of your mirror.

There are millions of guys who have decided to be positive about their hair loss! Think of all the celebrity guys with bald heads!

Be positive. This forum is full of very helpful people. Great guys who have all different reasons for being sly.

Make a change for the 'better'. Be positive.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Thebaldnation on February 21, 2014, 03:32:59 PM
Gozman, you have found the best website to address your hair loss.

Look, you are losing your hair! So, how to deal with it? Shave it all off and start a new life! Embrace what has now been thrust infront of your mirror.

There are millions of guys who have decided to be positive about their hair loss! Think of all the celebrity guys with bald heads!

Be positive. This forum is full of very helpful people. Great guys who have all different reasons for being sly.

Make a change for the 'better'. Be positive.
anyone ever tell you that you are just plain awesome?!!!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: EarlBald on February 21, 2014, 04:44:56 PM
 :) +1
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: yasa on March 04, 2014, 05:37:17 PM
Greetings everybody,

Just had my 3rd treatment last week and this time they turned it up a couple of notches.. and boyy did it hurtt.. The first two treatments my head literally looked like a pumpkin and was red and swollen for about 5 days, this time around there was a lot less redness and the swelling was gone after only 1 day. Probably because the less hair there is left the less impact

I have been seeing some great results after only 3 treatments, the sides are now almost completely gone (about 40 % left ) and i have about 30 percent left on the top. I have had less progression on the back of my head but that is probably because there was a lot more hair there to begin with..  The downsides so far are the costs and the patches obviously.. but so far i am very happy i decided to go through with this, cant wait for the next treatment.

@San cisco, whats up mate ? Still happy with the results ? No regrowth so far ? You already had your last treatment right ?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on March 06, 2014, 10:29:17 AM
Hey Yasa, my friend, hows it going?

Yeah mate, couldnt be happier with the results.

I was supposed to have my last session done a couple weeks ago, but at that time I still had no hair at all.. So decided to postpone it (about 3 weeks from today).


I have around 5% hair left, but the cool part is that the remaining is so thin that I cant barely see it even 3/4 days after shaving it.
So you see I could definitely stop the Laser treatments by now, altough Im quite a perfectionist.


Another cool thing is that these days each Blade run for at least 2 months when they used to last around 1 week.. Money baby!  ;D
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on March 06, 2014, 01:26:41 PM
You guys are brave!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: yasa on March 06, 2014, 03:37:04 PM
@sancisco thats good to hear mate.. i am doing fine.. glad everything worked out so great for you gives me even more confidence for my end results 8)

so how many treatments did you end up having ?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on March 10, 2014, 09:59:43 AM
@Yasa, I will end up having 12 sessions.

Having read a few other testimonials, I think thats pretty much the standard.

 O0
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on March 13, 2014, 06:38:51 AM
Greetings everybody,

Just had my 3rd treatment last week and this time they turned it up a couple of notches.. and boyy did it hurtt.. The first two treatments my head literally looked like a pumpkin and was red and swollen for about 5 days, this time around there was a lot less redness and the swelling was gone after only 1 day. Probably because the less hair there is left the less impact

I have been seeing some great results after only 3 treatments, the sides are now almost completely gone (about 40 % left ) and i have about 30 percent left on the top. I have had less progression on the back of my head but that is probably because there was a lot more hair there to begin with..  The downsides so far are the costs and the patches obviously.. but so far i am very happy i decided to go through with this, cant wait for the next treatment.

I've had the same experience. The back definitely goes slower. I went through 6 sessions, and now, being 1,5 months after (should go for the 7-th), I shaved just once, and the rest hair doesn't that affect the look. Alexandrite was definitely the best choice, never had any problems with it, and very effective. The other clinics did it and for some reason it made burnt hair staying for long time and yet regrowing. So different lasers work differently.
I heard one interesting opinion you should make it on closing moon (sorry for my english).
I'm interested in using epilator when I have little hair left.

Does the lasered look looks better? In my opinion, it mostly looks better than the horseshoe. First of all, it looks different than most balding men, and cleaner from the back. As if you're balding, the front looks ok (totally bald), but the back ughhh... everyone sees you have that sh*t you can't get rid of even with shaving. And you can't choose the haircut, mother nature chose that silly patch, which looks bad. As it doesn't serve any function anymore. You kind of stuck with what you've got. it also looks "dirty", in my opinion. I never enjoyed wearing it. Some men look good with it, but those would look good with anything.
The lasered look also looks not quite normal, no doubt about it. But still, it's kind of a choice. The horseshoe also frames the head look, it affects perception of the head and even shape. The worst part is that everyone sees you have to deal with it and it's not a choice, so you're weak. Lasered look looks like a retarded, but it's a choice. No-one can say for sure if you removed all your hair altogether? Or just shaving like a crazy.
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fzwgndl.jpg&hash=c8ecae4aff0ce7173118bfe8602fcfec)
Pre - and after 6 sessions (shaved just once or two).
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on March 13, 2014, 07:36:40 AM
Nice job, fewef! The horseshoe looks a lot less pronounced in the second picture, but I guess after the 12 treatments, the horseshoe will be almost nonexistent.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on March 13, 2014, 07:53:18 AM
Fewef,
I see great improvements!!

The thing is, it looks like the first picture was taken during summer, and the second one is obviously a recent one, during winter I suppose.

Its quite an unfair comparison, as your skin color in the first picture looks better, but when combined with the younger look of not having the horseshoe shadow, its a winner!  O0
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on March 13, 2014, 03:24:24 PM
Thank you! :) I want to go max to 8 sessions, What do you think about using epilator for those? How many sessions did you need that your hair shadow went away and only fine hairs have left?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on March 13, 2014, 06:46:23 PM
No clue on the epilator thing..  Wouldnt be my choice though!

Anyway, you intend to epilate your scalp everyweek for the next 20 years? Lol
I guess its worth a couple more sessions and have the whole thing done permanently.
Just my 2 cents mate!

Good luck  O0
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Joaooo on March 14, 2014, 03:22:00 PM
Hello

I have thinking about this with laser removal on My head for many years but I live in Sweden and had never heard about this option here.

My question is what is the best laser option for this?

I think you have allready talked about it,  52 pages and im getting blind Soon on My iphone hehe :D

Hope u Can help me Guys with that question
Best regards

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on March 14, 2014, 05:34:32 PM
This is as simple as it gets:

1) Light/ Olive skin - Alexandrite Laser
2) Dark/ Very Dark skin - YAG Laser

Just find a clinic that provides the Laser suiting your skin type.


Good Luck.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on March 14, 2014, 06:40:13 PM
Hello

I have thinking about this with laser removal on My head for many years but I live in Sweden and had never heard about this option here.

My question is what is the best laser option for this?

I think you have allready talked about it,  52 pages and im getting blind Soon on My iphone hehe :D

Hope u Can help me Guys with that question
Best regards



For me it was alexandrite. But it also depends on particular one. I just had 3 sessions with another one, and it was leaving burns, long recover, and regrowing hairs. But another one was less painful, faster recover and more effective.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: techmed on March 16, 2014, 11:05:24 AM
I've been shaving my head for years and was thinking of the laser. I finally decided to go for it. I've had 6 treatments so far and almost all my hair are gone. Just a little left on the back. It might seem crazy to a lot of you but i was not balding at all. I had a full head of hair. Just loved the bald look that I decided to get rid of the hair all together. I am so happy I did it. The best way to get it done for me is to apply EMLA cream about an hour before the treatment and not have any drink with caffeine a few hours before.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on March 25, 2014, 06:24:43 AM
Just stopped by to say that Im having my last session in 2 days.

The whole process lasted for about 24 months.. And Im REALLY glad its finally over.
It was wayy longer than what I expected.. thank god it was worth it!!

Wish you guys the best of luck!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: GotThereandThenSome on April 23, 2014, 05:20:41 AM
Hey All - It's been a while since I posted...  Still BBC and now getting ready for my first laser treatment later today...  Im nervous but encouraged by the posts here...  Hoping swelling, soreness and redness will be at a minimum...  I will report in post my first session...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on April 24, 2014, 03:37:34 AM
Hey All - It's been a while since I posted...  Still BBC and now getting ready for my first laser treatment later today...  Im nervous but encouraged by the posts here...  Hoping swelling, soreness and redness will be at a minimum...  I will report in post my first session...

Welcome back and good luck! Just curious, is that you in the avatar?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: GotThereandThenSome on April 24, 2014, 05:47:52 AM
Sadly that's not me, but now that I got through the initial visit I will have my tech take a picture...  Good news, minimal redness and soreness and swelling - pretty impressed with the pain...  hurt the most at my crown and back of head - I need approx. 12 treatments but should see a majority of the results within the first six...  And it only took approx. 35 mins.  I am gonna start posting photos of progress in about 2 weeks when more of the hair has fallen out.  For those on the fence I would say run don't walk to a laser clinic is you desire this procedure - ask a bunch of questions and go for the gold... you wont regret it...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on April 24, 2014, 06:21:28 AM
Currently having lazer treatment on a few tats. Boy it hurts!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: GotThereandThenSome on April 24, 2014, 07:30:25 AM
All true about pain but it is manageable - I was given the sage advice to take a few ibuprofen before the procedure and that worked like a charm...  I am applying aloe vera gel pretty regularly to my head to help reduce the redness
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: baldjoeg on April 24, 2014, 09:13:32 AM
Good luck on this. I will be interested to hear and to see how it all turns out.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on April 24, 2014, 09:14:53 AM
Took ibuprofen myself but didnt help me at all
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on April 25, 2014, 06:45:09 AM
A question for the experienced ones:

Its been 4 weeks since my last (12th?) session and I have seen absolutely ZERO hair growth since then, except probably some peach fuzz and weird blonde hairs.

My technician and I agreed to perform 1 last session before summer, so I could achieve near to 100% results and take advantage of the fact that my skin is still very pale.


The issue here is that I have never experienced Zero regrowth before, so I have no idea if the hairs are slowly starting to form or just permanently killed.

Any advice on this?



The reason why Im rushing a bit, is that I need to work from home (1 week) after each session, as my scalp turns REALLY red and swollen for at least 5 days.. and I must book that week in advance.
Nevermind the fact I have barely seen any sun in a year and I start to reaaaally crave it.

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: San Cisco on May 11, 2014, 03:23:23 PM
Even though this thread seems to be dead, I thought I should give you guys a final update.

I ended up going for a final 13th session last week, despite my technician saying it wasnt really necessary.
Well, its finally over now and Im glad it went the way I expected. I reckon I achieved near 100% hair loss.

I wont be coming here anytime soon so let me thank you all once again for the support I received and wish you guys the best of luck.  O0  8)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on May 11, 2014, 04:29:54 PM
San Cisco, I wouldn't call a thread with more than 50 pages and almost 800 posts "dead" But congratulations on completing your laser sessions. Feel free to check in ever so often and keep us posted on how it's working for you.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on May 15, 2014, 05:36:01 AM
Even though this thread seems to be dead, I thought I should give you guys a final update.

I ended up going for a final 13th session last week, despite my technician saying it wasnt really necessary.
Well, its finally over now and Im glad it went the way I expected. I reckon I achieved near 100% hair loss.

I wont be coming here anytime soon so let me thank you all once again for the support I received and wish you guys the best of luck.  O0  8)

Great to hear from you!
Just curious, how do you know you've really made it?
I went through 8 sessions already, and the 8-th hurted for some reason. I waited for two months and there were lots of small, but not prominent hairs. The horseshoe went after session 6-th as far as I remember. It's really nice, I really dreamed about it being gone.
Now that I did 8, I see there's no need to hurry and I'd better make another 2-4 sessions, as indeed spending another 300$ and half a year is better than shaving for the rest of my life.
Am I happy or not? Well, sometimes I have dreams that I'm afraid to lose my hair. Like, "I should save what's left, maybe there's cloning soon". But then I wake up and see men with horseshoe and think, whatever. It's gone for nw7. There's no option for having a haircut after nw5 for now. And there are no signs of cloning for now. But it's up if you want to wait for it.
But would I like to go back? No. It would grow back every single day. Shaving it just because you want it short?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: bilbo on May 16, 2014, 08:30:10 AM
Hey All.
My name is Peter I had a hair transplant and it was the worst decision of my life. I would like to know if the transplanted hair can be removed by laser?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on May 16, 2014, 09:32:23 AM
Welcome, Peter! Sorry that you had to go through the (bad?) experience of an HT....So are you looking to just laser the transplanted hair and just be naturally bald(ing), or are you looking to laser your whole scalp as many of the posters in this thread have done?

Side note to all members: Not to play Spoiler Steve here, but the avatar in GotThereAndThenSome's profile is not a guy getting his scalp lasered to be bald...The guy in that avatar is getting a stimulating laser to help the hair GROW BACK (in the horseshoe area, look at how he's positioned)....If the guy was getting a scalp laser job, he would actually be lying FACE DOWN....And no offense to GotThereAndThenSome, but I just wanted to avoid someone thinking about doing scalp lasering that it's NOT that easy and painless...but it's all in what you want.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: bilbo on May 16, 2014, 09:47:21 AM
Thank you Sir Harry for your answer to my post. I want to remove the hair transplanted 1850 grafts on receding hairline
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Common on May 22, 2014, 09:48:36 AM
I did 12 sessions with my last session being approximately 3 years ago.  Sorry to say that you will still have to shave someday.

Expect no hair growth for 3 months or so and then things will start up again.  Not like before you started treatment.  The remaining hair will be mostly peach fuzz but it needs shaving every three days or so.  No more horseshoes, so it's a worthwhile situation.


A question for the experienced ones:

Its been 4 weeks since my last (12th?) session and I have seen absolutely ZERO hair growth since then, except probably some peach fuzz and weird blonde hairs.

My technician and I agreed to perform 1 last session before summer, so I could achieve near to 100% results and take advantage of the fact that my skin is still very pale.


The issue here is that I have never experienced Zero regrowth before, so I have no idea if the hairs are slowly starting to form or just permanently killed.

Any advice on this?



The reason why Im rushing a bit, is that I need to work from home (1 week) after each session, as my scalp turns REALLY red and swollen for at least 5 days.. and I must book that week in advance.
Nevermind the fact I have barely seen any sun in a year and I start to reaaaally crave it.

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: GotThereandThenSome on May 24, 2014, 04:47:01 AM
2nd session complete here. Results are amazing. Yes there is a bit of pain and redness but in my opinion very worth it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on May 24, 2014, 05:18:55 AM
2nd session complete here. Results are amazing. Yes there is a bit of pain and redness but in my opinion very worth it.
Happy to hear that. Keep it up not to shave every day.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: yasa on June 05, 2014, 09:26:43 AM
Hi everybody. A little update. I have just completed my 5th treatment two weeks
ago and i have about 50 % of my hair left (mainly on the back). I started with
a full head of hair (i was far from bald on top, just had a receding hairline)
and the hair on my top and sides are about 90 % gone.

For the people still on the fences : laser hair removal does NOT replace shaving.
There will always be regrowth. If your goal is to never shave again this is
not the solution. It only offers a solution for shadow and skin
irritation (ingrown hairs). So it does not mean you never have to shave again.
My sides are almost completely gone but there is some regrowth after a couple of days..
but the hair is so thin and weak you cannot notice it untill after like 3 or 4 days
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: jb222uk on June 24, 2014, 01:55:03 AM
Hi everyone,

I live in the UK and am balding. Im a norwood 6 and keep it shaved but i hate the shadow. I just want to be fully bald. I think laser hair removal is the best option for me. What clinics are best in the UK to do this?

thanks

J
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on June 24, 2014, 05:01:25 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Whatever is closest to you and is registered and has lots of customer reviews
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: jb222uk on June 24, 2014, 07:13:16 AM
Ive been in touch with a few clinics in London who say they do scalps but they were vague on how many and the results.

Anyone on here had their head lasered successfully in the UK?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on June 27, 2014, 11:10:14 AM
No laser treatments for me.

(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi318.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm407%2Frhorgan68%2F74d3dd3d53f2130ce16c6208c15d094a_zps125e5ac8.jpg&hash=bd173c24cf4ca4e0bd89e8d658a558f3)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on June 27, 2014, 11:43:33 AM
Laser on the head is not for me either. Having it on arms at mo for tattoo removal and it hurts so bad!!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on June 27, 2014, 07:20:05 PM
I did the 9-th. It's been a year sicne I started. This time I had thin hairs, which still hurted, but no sign of a horseshoe at all. Hopefully 3 more, and I'm more or less there.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: zetaeffe on June 29, 2014, 05:06:52 PM
No laser treatments for me.

(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi318.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm407%2Frhorgan68%2F74d3dd3d53f2130ce16c6208c15d094a_zps125e5ac8.jpg&hash=bd173c24cf4ca4e0bd89e8d658a558f3)

Lucky you that don't need it!!  ;)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: EarlBald on June 30, 2014, 01:49:56 PM
Wow, Razor X, how do you get your scalp so smooth?  It looks great!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on July 01, 2014, 04:36:42 AM
I think he uses sandpaper! lol
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on July 01, 2014, 10:51:58 AM
Nope, just a little Headslick and a Mach III and I a good for 24 hours.  Yesterday morning I shaved at 6:30 am and at 11:30 PM I was just starting to get a little sandpapery on the sides.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: EarlD on July 01, 2014, 11:27:22 AM
I havea niece that has a salon and she hs offered on numerious occasions to do a wax job on my dome. Nope-not for me-not in this lifetime nor in the next! I've watched my daughters wax their legs and the way they yelled and shreked while they did it turned me off the that idea long ago.  :o
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on July 02, 2014, 12:19:38 PM
Nope, just a little Headslick and a Mach III and I a good for 24 hours.  Yesterday morning I shaved at 6:30 am and at 11:30 PM I was just starting to get a little sandpapery on the sides.

Blimey, i shave at say 6am and by 9am the sandpaper feel is showing!
Title: Orlando Florida Area Laser Removal Anyone?
Post by: spazfishy on August 28, 2014, 08:30:39 AM
Hello, sorry if I posted in an incorrect section but I could not find a more appropriate one. Anyways, I am a lurker on this website and one that does not say much so this I believe might be my first post. Anyways, great site thanks to all that contribute. I've decided I would like to be totally bald and lose my shadow. I am wondering if anyone can recommend a good place to have laser hair removal done on my scalp in the central Florida?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: slymyke on August 28, 2014, 03:04:04 PM
I've never really looked into that.  I do hear advertisements on 104.1 FM about laser hair removal, but I don't really pay much attention to them. 

--sorry.. not much help.  You may want to just look them up and call a few places.  I'm sure they can steer you in the right direction.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on September 05, 2014, 05:08:26 AM
I did the 10-th session. It was 1,5 moths ok, then it started to grow again. The horseshoe is not visible, but there were lots of small hairs, covering the big area. A bit disappointing so much has left, but I think I never have the horseshoe again though.
Indeed it takes a lot of time. But... you just go and make it, nothing difficult.
I guess it takes between 1,5 to 2 years to make it properly. Each next session is less painful.
Am I happy with the decision? Sometimes, I think it was a wrong desicion. Simply because I can't get back those hairs ever. I mean, you make it, and there's no way back. It kinda disturbung, when you think about it.
Who knows, maybe there will be a hair restoration in 10 years. There's still a chance.
But for me, the horseshoe was too visible, defined, NW7. When I remember shaving my head, I think it made my life easier, and smooth head looks more tidy.
If you have a diffused pattern, don't. Only if you have so little hair it more of a problem. Stil miss my hair, but enjoying the new look. Best to you all!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Fred86 on September 24, 2014, 02:15:15 PM
Hello guys, I have been shaving my head for 5 years now (I'm 27)  and I'm really thinking about doing the Laser hair removal, I actually like shaving my head but the shadow is way to visible, especially when I'm not very tanned.

I'm an European mixed guy, light brown skin (same as Dwayne Johnson in winter) living in Asia and I'm still here for few years, I found 2 super modern clinics that are using the 1064nm Nd:Yag laser, needless to say that they have never done it on the head before, should I take the 'risk' ? (Maybe the word 'risk' is too strong).

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on October 25, 2014, 03:43:48 AM
Just did the 11-th. It was little hairs left, but still painful.  She said I need another 3 sessions.
Well, two years in total. Sounds a lot, but doesn't feel as it's long. I think shaving will still be needed.
When looking at myself, I think I look not as old when without shadow.
(https://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F28rk2lx.jpg&hash=9edbcc1af86c5b915d5be6d6ae0a6d01)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on October 25, 2014, 01:20:57 PM
Really cant see the point of lazer
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Munkynutz on October 29, 2014, 05:44:53 PM
I can see the point of it if you are going to get remarkable results.  While I understand that being part of the shaving process can be kinda cool I can imagine that having no work to do whatsoever when you wake up in terms of hair maintenance and just take a shower and go has a lot of appeal.

To anyone holding out for the possibility the future will allow for hair rejuvenation and adequate treatment then I would think this is a no go for sure.

But for those of us who have decided this look is going to be permanent feature of their lives, and if the risks are minimal and the results good... why not?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on October 29, 2014, 06:00:52 PM
To anyone holding out for the possibility the future will allow for hair rejuvenation and adequate treatment then I would think this is a no go for sure.

But for those of us who have decided this look is going to be permanent feature of their lives, and if the risks are minimal and the results good... why not?

It was not an easy decision. I put a lot of thought into it. I just personally don't believe NW6-7 will turn into 1-2 in the next 10 years. Hopefully so, but nothing shows any promise more than it was 10 years ago. And when you're nw7, you really look old with the horseshoe. It doesn't form any haircut. So you just shave or let it grow and it looks bad.
You say permanent. Well, we are permanently bald, unless multiplicaion comes along. So if it comes along, it would be possible to restore it from even 1 hair, isn't it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Munkynutz on October 29, 2014, 09:04:45 PM
I suppose you have a very valid point there.  Or with stem cell research they would be able to make as many hairs from any stem cell that you may want right.

With regard to the shadow I find people I know who shave their heads the dark coloured hair is far more visible and blond or grey/white hair becomes almost undetectable when shaved.

Any of you have input on that?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: tobler1 on October 30, 2014, 02:48:21 AM
I have, well, had, medium to dark brown hair, and there is definitely an ever-present shadow.   C'est la vie, I suppose.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on October 30, 2014, 04:55:17 AM
I think the shadow can look cool on some. Nothing wrong as far as i am concerned but its a personal taste i guess.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on October 30, 2014, 06:45:26 AM
I enjoy reading the stories about those who are doing/have done this process. For a brief while I thought about it, but in the end, I decided it was a process I couldn't afford at this present time. For those who want to go through with it, I can only hope you are happy with the results. For those who don't want to go through with it, nothing wrong with that either. There is no right or wrong side in this thread, IMO
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on October 30, 2014, 07:03:51 AM
I enjoy reading the stories about those who are doing/have done this process. For a brief while I thought about it, but in the end, I decided it was a process I couldn't afford at this present time. For those who want to go through with it, I can only hope you are happy with the results. For those who don't want to go through with it, nothing wrong with that either. There is no right or wrong side in this thread, IMO

It depends if you're seeing it as it is now or seeing in in the future perspective. As it is, if you shave, there's no much difference visually anyway. The shadow looks healthier IF it's a nw1-2 shadow imo. You can restore it with misropigmentation today, if you really want. I waited for 10 years, and not seeing much progress in cloning, decided to go through it. It's a tough coihce, but for the majority of people we are baldies anyway, they don't make much difference with all this fuss.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: slybeard on October 30, 2014, 09:55:23 AM
With regard to the shadow I find people I know who shave their heads the dark coloured hair is far more visible and blond or grey/white hair becomes almost undetectable when shaved.

Any of you have input on that?

My shadow is almost non-existent since my hair is gray.  So if laser is only being considered to get rid of the shadow and there is family history of early graying, it might be worth just waiting on nature.  The flip side is that laser does not work on gray hair, so if it is something you want, do not wait too long because once your hair turns gray, it is no longer an option.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: njbill on October 30, 2014, 11:38:00 AM
I'm holding out hope that science comes up with something to reverse mpb no laser for me thanks
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: DeviantMagick on December 10, 2014, 06:38:52 AM
I'm sorry to say that I've been getting laser for more than 2 years now.
For me it's not working, after a year and a half I stopped and let it grow because the little hairs would pop up and at a certain point they would be all over like fine baby hair.  When I let it all grow all my hair came back.
But I didn't like it so I decided to go back even more because it still made shaving easier because the hair was lighter.
I have gotten it down to a science where I can be completely hair free for approximately 3 weeks with no growth.  I go for a treatment, then go for another exactly one week later. (This is not the norm for laser, but my person gave it a try because they also feel bad that all my hair comes back.)  It works for me, but it's pricey to keep up.  I'd almost considered stopping completely but at the same time I feel I've already spent all this money that it's almost like an investment.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on December 10, 2014, 08:15:32 AM
Welcome (back), Deviant Magic!

Sorry that the razor is not working for you, and lasering isn't working out like you are hoping for (at least from the $$$) but if the laser treatments are painful and still not working, have you considered an epilator? While painful at first, if used properly, the epilator will kill the roots of the hair and eventually the hair will grow back fine....Just a suggestion....
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Semi-Sly on December 10, 2014, 10:55:26 PM
I have had laser hair removal on my neck, back, cheeks, shoulders, upper arms, chest, thighs, etc. ( I was a real Wookie!)

It only works on hairs that still have color, (grey)  It is painful on my neck, cheeks, ear arches, etc.  The beard and head hairs are the toughest and it really hurts when the laser zaps those.  My technician says that she has had several guys ask about having their heads done but none of them have gone through with it - so she doesn't know how successful it would be or how many sessions it would take. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: viccash on March 10, 2015, 11:39:23 AM
Hello everyone. I have been doing laser hair removal on my scalp. I live in NYC. So far, I am a week away from my 5th session. I go for a session every 4 weeks. I bought a package that came with 6 sessions. But the laser specialist believes that I need a lot more sessions. And I can tell myself. So far, the shadow is less noticeable and lighter. The hair barely grows. Mostly thin baby hair/peach fuzz. But in some patchy areas, it still grows. My 6th and last session from the package will be in April. At the moment, I don't have enough money to buy more sessions. But, I was considering taking a break from April all the way till October. It's extremely sunny where I live. I go out a lot, and I'm an athletic person. I run track 5 times a week. It's like a dessert/beach on the track field. The head is exposed to the sun 24/7. My head has been protected because I wear a hat during the winter. But during the spring/summer I wouldn't want to wear a hat. I asked the laser specialist why the skin cannot be exposed to the sun. She told me that the sun might burn the skin and create scars. That would suck. The laser Specialist recommended me to take a 2 month break. I haven't asked her about this yet. But I would like to get an opinion from you guys. Is a 6 month gap too much? I'm very happy with my results so far and I don't want to sabotage anything. I know the hair will grow back, but will I maintain the thinner hairs and weaker shadow during that time?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on March 10, 2015, 12:03:15 PM
Same with Tattoo removal with a Laser. I had some treatment last year and was told to stop during summer because of the tanning etc. Not started it again as the pain is bad!! lol
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: viccash on March 10, 2015, 02:29:14 PM
I'm concerned and worried if this 6 month gap will ruin everything. And I really hate the shadow. And shaving is so much quicker and easier. And it does make sense to take a break. But is 6 months too much?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on March 11, 2015, 02:47:07 PM
I'm concerned and worried if this 6 month gap will ruin everything. And I really hate the shadow. And shaving is so much quicker and easier. And it does make sense to take a break. But is 6 months too much?

I'd say yes, it's too much, as those hairs will become stronger next time and you might lose what you've already invested.


I've done the 14-th session today, and perhaps will do another one or two. As I think I reached the point of diminishing returns. This summer it will be 2 years since I started. There's no shadow, and shaving takes a minute, but peach fuzz is there and I think it's hard to get rid of it completely. I hope the shadow won't be back, and I didn't see it for a year.
Anyway I like the result, as it's so easy to maintain. And it looks better. I do dancing and I watched the videos, and I think it looks neat and not as old.  The shadow is not that nice you know. And you can't shave it off. That what I hated about it. And when it grew a bit, it looked even worse.
As it's recession in my country, I pay only 30 bucks for the whole head (it was 100 2 years ago). Good deal!
But I don't know.. I think it's not for everybody. If I had a bit more diffuse pattern, at least NW5, and not so harsh transition at the back (really thick hairs growing fast), I wouldn't go for it. I'd just shave, as who knows... maybe there's a multiplication or treatment in 10 years. But I understood that my hair story is over with NW7 and thick hairs at the back! Now I like it so much more, and it looks much tidier and not as old.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: viccash on March 12, 2015, 07:08:53 AM
I'm concerned and worried if this 6 month gap will ruin everything. And I really hate the shadow. And shaving is so much quicker and easier. And it does make sense to take a break. But is 6 months too much?

I'd say yes, it's too much, as those hairs will become stronger next time and you might lose what you've already invested.


I've done the 14-th session today, and perhaps will do another one or two. As I think I reached the point of diminishing returns. This summer it will be 2 years since I started. There's no shadow, and shaving takes a minute, but peach fuzz is there and I think it's hard to get rid of it completely. I hope the shadow won't be back, and I didn't see it for a year.
Anyway I like the result, as it's so easy to maintain. And it looks better. I do dancing and I watched the videos, and I think it looks neat and not as old.  The shadow is not that nice you know. And you can't shave it off. That what I hated about it. And when it grew a bit, it looked even worse.
As it's recession in my country, I pay only 30 bucks for the whole head (it was 100 2 years ago). Good deal!
But I don't know.. I think it's not for everybody. If I had a bit more diffuse pattern, at least NW5, and not so harsh transition at the back (really thick hairs growing fast), I wouldn't go for it. I'd just shave, as who knows... maybe there's a multiplication or treatment in 10 years. But I understood that my hair story is over with NW7 and thick hairs at the back! Now I like it so much more, and it looks much tidier and not as old.

@fewef thank you very much. And the reason I am doing laser hair removal, is because my shadow is too strong, and it ruins the purpose of shaving. I have been shaving against the grain for a year. And I always cut myself and get bumps. Ever since I have done laser hair removal, the shadow is less noticeable, and no bumps or cuts when I shave. But I have got to say, I'm very depressed to hear that 6 months is too long of a break. Where I'm at, it's $650 for a package of 6 sessions.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on April 05, 2015, 12:21:09 PM
I just want to thank all the members who have ahared their experiences and have taken the time to come back and give occasional updates.  I've always struggled with folliculitis.  Between steroids for asthma treatment and high antibiotic useage due to a penicillin allergy, I haven't been able to figure out how to keep it under control.  I started wet shaving and using a safety razor, but it almost seems like it's gotten worse.  I have another dermatologist appointment next week and I plan to ask about laser treatments to get rid of it without the repeated antibiotics.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: viccash on May 13, 2015, 06:15:22 AM
After how many days after a session can you expose your head to the sun without using sunblock? I have read as early as 1 week, to as late as 1 month.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on May 13, 2015, 10:34:53 AM
Its sad when i read about people choosing laser treatment because they dont like the 'shadow' when bald. It is something that will diminish as your hair gets lighter / turns grey.

Each to their own i know and i wish you all the best.

For me, its a matter of just loving being bald even though i have a shadow!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: viccash on May 13, 2015, 12:02:29 PM
It depends on the individual. Some people are lucky and don't have much of a shadow, while others, have an extremely noticeable shadow, where even the best "Against The Grain" shave wouldn't do much to hide it. I hated my shadow so much, because it revealed my hairline. The whole reason I went bald was to avoid my hairline. Some shadows are so strong, that it almost looks like hair. I honestly think Laser hair removal is very worth it. Especially because it makes shaving much easier, and helps avoid ingrown hairs, razor burn and cuts. All those benefits, on top of making the shadow weaker. Very worth it, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on May 16, 2015, 04:54:03 PM
Greetings to all! I came across to say my epilation journey is finished, as I'm satisfied with the results. It's been more than 2 months since last session, and the growing hair is very mild, I can barely see it with a closeup photo. No shadow at all. So it took me almost 2 years, though I must say after the 4-th session the results were prominent (no shadow for a long time). After the first treatment I felt much better, as I hated the shadow much. It was very thick and was a reminder that I don't choose it and can't control.
Now I can shave once in 1-2 weeks, those hairs grow very short and not noticeable. I can dry-shave it without problem. Maybe they will become thicker with time, who knows. But I just see the epilation indeed works and works well, as it eliminated 99% of hair.
Not anyway "I'm happy" with being bald, but shadow forms your face and head perception also. When I look at shaved heads, the first thing I look if I can see the horseshoe, as it's different worlds. And when I see someone with a horseshoe, I understand the person does it but not necessary enjoys it.
I can only recommend it to those, who are past 30's, have NW6+, and are tired of shaving everyday and cutting head. Also, it seems my head shines less as I don't have to wash it as often, so it affects the shining.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on May 17, 2015, 08:01:33 AM
At the end of the day you cant beat nature.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: viccash on May 19, 2015, 10:50:55 AM
@fewef I'm glad to hear. I finished my 6th session last month. I'm taking a 5-6 month break because it's summer and the sun is always shining. I'm happy with my results, but I am left with a few patches. Mostly in the back.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: USP678 on August 16, 2015, 10:01:09 AM
Hello All,

I am interested, down the road, to have laser hair removal on my scalp and am looking for a clinic in the MidWest.  I found one place in Indianapolis but would like to find a place in Illinois, Minnesota, or Wisconsin.  Can anyone help with a clinic in one of these states?

Thank you!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Bilko1 on October 22, 2015, 06:23:12 AM
I am going for my first 'patch' test in mid-December after I have finished a course of medication that I am for a long-standing health issue. The current medication course ends in early December and I have been asked by the therapist to wait another week after I am clear of medication.
The medication makes my skin photo-sensitive & so laser may cause further problems, I have been told.

Although, I have been epilating, I still have some stubborn patches of hair here & there & I want them gone as much as is possible, so it is the ultimate treatment - laser hair removal for me.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on November 10, 2015, 06:56:26 PM
I had my first laser treatment today.  Yes, it's painful (especially on the temples and base of the skull), but overall it really isn't that bad.  I'm looking forward to the "shedding" phase over the next several days.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: zetaeffe on November 11, 2015, 12:03:36 AM
I had my first laser treatment today.  Yes, it's painful (especially on the temples and base of the skull), but overall it really isn't that bad.  I'm looking forward to the "shedding" phase over the next several days.
f

Please let us know how things will go!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on November 11, 2015, 11:06:36 AM
So far, so good on the first day after treatment.  Scalp is slightly pink (barely noticeable).  No pain, but a little tenderness in a couple spots.  Stubble is there and feels a little coarser than normal.  Main thing is to keep using moisturizers.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Totor on November 12, 2015, 01:35:39 PM
Hello everybody.
What brand of laser that you remove hair? I can remove hair laser Soprano. It is effective, it painful?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on November 20, 2015, 10:48:28 AM
A brief update ten days after my first laser treatment.  I did not have any major shedding, but my shadow is noticeably thinner and lighter.  I've shaved a couple times because the grey / white hairs continue to grow, but they seem softer.  The dark hairs have not grown or have grown very slowly.  The complexion on my scalp is clear and has a nice shine.  The best part is that because the hair is either not growing or growing very slowly, my dome feels pretty smooth all day.

My second treatment is scheduled for mid-December.  I'm looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Marc_ldn on November 27, 2015, 12:44:29 PM
Hi. I'm new to this site.
I live in London UK.
I started my laser treatment weeks ago and I'm amazed at the difference.
Very painful and a strong smell off burning crackling.
I have a head scar so I do get a lot off swelling round this area for around 3 days.
Have my next treatment next weekend I can't wait it's a life changing treatment for me in off course a good way
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on November 27, 2015, 03:42:42 PM
Hi. I'm new to this site.
I live in London UK.
I started my laser treatment weeks ago and I'm amazed at the difference.
Very painful and a strong smell off burning crackling.
I have a head scar so I do get a lot off swelling round this area for around 3 days.
Have my next treatment next weekend I can't wait it's a life changing treatment for me in off course a good way

Welcome, and good luck with the future treatments!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: zetaeffe on November 27, 2015, 09:51:06 PM
A brief update ten days after my first laser treatment.  I did not have any major shedding, but my shadow is noticeably thinner and lighter.  I've shaved a couple times because the grey / white hairs continue to grow, but they seem softer.  The dark hairs have not grown or have grown very slowly.  The complexion on my scalp is clear and has a nice shine.  The best part is that because the hair is either not growing or growing very slowly, my dome feels pretty smooth all day.

My second treatment is scheduled for mid-December.  I'm looking forward to it!

Any pic of your bald head after the treatment?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Marc_ldn on November 29, 2015, 07:53:59 AM
Hi. I'm new to this site.
I live in London UK.
I started my laser treatment weeks ago and I'm amazed at the difference.
Very painful and a strong smell off burning crackling.
I have a head scar so I do get a lot off swelling round this area for around 3 days.
Have my next treatment next weekend I can't wait it's a life changing treatment for me in off course a good way

Welcome, and good luck with the future treatments!


Thank you.
My story is different.
I've been fighting with my hair for over 30 years.
In the 1980s my scalp got chemical damaged which changed the texture off my hair.
I went from fine hair to brittle and damaged so much so that it was breaking mostly at the front of my scalp.
I've under gone so many treatments to try and restore what i had.
Please bare in mind I’m not bald i have a full head off hair just terrible condition and a complete mess.
I've only started shaving about 6 months ago I’ve finally accepted that this will be my fate i'm sick off fighting every morning looking into the mirror and seeing hair that i was not born with.
Due to my hair being so brittle and stiff shaving is not easy.
So i decided to undergo laser scalp treatment.
Luckily i have a clinic with excellent reviews close to where i live and after 1 treatment i have noticed a difference and it is much easier to shave and it’s not growing as fast i will keep everyone updated.
Thanks guys



Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Marc_ldn on December 07, 2015, 09:42:55 AM
Hi. I'm new to this site.
I live in London UK.
I started my laser treatment weeks ago and I'm amazed at the difference.
Very painful and a strong smell off burning crackling.
I have a head scar so I do get a lot off swelling round this area for around 3 days.
Have my next treatment next weekend I can't wait it's a life changing treatment for me in off course a good way

Welcome, and good luck with the future treatments!

Had my second treatment 2 days ago.
Got me worried the pain was worse had my first visit and I had to take time of work due to redness and bruising.
She did tell me she turned settings up but I was wondering if the creams I use caused this problem.
I will carry on but I may have to make changes.
This was a worry to me about things going wrong and side affects.
Will let you guys know
Marc
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Nickd on January 21, 2016, 12:18:07 PM
Well after reading all 57 pages of everyone's experience with hair removal I have made an appointment with my local dermatologist to have the remaining hair on my head removed. My goals are to reduce the frequency and time invested in shaving and to save money. It's going to run me between $600-$800 for the total process, depending on the total number of sessions required. My consult and first session is February 16th. I'm excited and can't wait. I love my bald head and like a friend said to me the other day, I can't imagine you with hair again. You look so much better bald. I couldn't agree more.

I'll keep everyone updated on the process and progress.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on January 21, 2016, 12:20:03 PM
Well after reading all 57 pages of everyone's experience with hair removal I have made an appointment with my local dermatologist to have the remaining hair on my head removed. My goals are to reduce the frequency and time invested in shaving and to save money. It's going to run me between $600-$800 for the total process, depending on the total number of sessions required. My consult and first session is February 16th. I'm excited and can't wait. I love my bald head and like a friend said to me the other day, I can't imagine you with hair again. You look so much better bald. I couldn't agree more.

I'll keep everyone updated on the process and progress.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Reg on January 21, 2016, 01:03:19 PM
Interesting thread, enjoyed reading some of the stories on here. I see how this can be a worthwhile investment of time and money. Respect to those who have gone for it. I would consider it as I go through shaving blades so quickly and its takes a long time to maintain the slick, shadow free look but not yet. Probably in a few years time when I have saved up enough. Then again, probably not. Being BBC, having a choice isn't something I'd likely want to lose.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on January 25, 2016, 05:50:01 PM
Well after reading all 57 pages of everyone's experience with hair removal I have made an appointment with my local dermatologist to have the remaining hair on my head removed. My goals are to reduce the frequency and time invested in shaving and to save money. It's going to run me between $600-$800 for the total process, depending on the total number of sessions required. My consult and first session is February 16th. I'm excited and can't wait. I love my bald head and like a friend said to me the other day, I can't imagine you with hair again. You look so much better bald. I couldn't agree more.

I'll keep everyone updated on the process and progress.

Definitely keep us updated.  My goals will be similar.  Reduce the time needed and increase the comfort associated with shaving.  A bonus would be shadow reduction.  It will probably be the first thing I save up for after getting our student loans paid off and our emergency fund built back up.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on March 08, 2016, 09:17:49 PM
Hi all! Just wanted to update, as it's been a year since I did my last session.
I'm very happy with results. I did about 10 sessions just to remind you. First of all, I can shave once 2-4 weeks only. The hairs are very thin. No shadow at all. Over that, I made a tatooing, which is very light (shaved hairs simulation). Also the shine has reduced a lot as I don't have to wash my scalp as often with soap. It's a nice thing as it was shining like a mirror bulb. And no irritation on the back from shaving.
People generally say good things about it. It definitely miles better than horseshoe. Cheeers!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: zetaeffe on April 12, 2016, 03:24:43 AM
You made a tattoing??
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on April 12, 2016, 04:23:41 PM
Yes, but not with this gel. I won't say where, it doesn't matter much. All I can say it's very good! O0 It's too light though, I need to save up for the 3-rd session.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: zetaeffe on April 12, 2016, 05:46:22 PM
guess I can't understand something...
you said you lasered the scalp to get rid of the hair and then got a tattoo that simulates hair?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on April 12, 2016, 06:06:09 PM
Correct, as I was tired shaving my nw7 horseshoe, which was very dense at the back. Now I have a uniform shaved look across the head, and I don't have to shave it often.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: zetaeffe on April 12, 2016, 06:16:18 PM
Correct, as I was tired shaving my nw7 horseshoe, which was very dense at the back. Now I have a uniform shaved look across the head, and I don't have to shave it often.

wouldn't you like better a totally shadow free scalp?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on April 12, 2016, 06:31:57 PM
wouldn't you like better a totally shadow free scalp?
I was wearing like this for several years. And I liked better with shadow. And I'd also prefer hair. I'm not bald by choice. But today I look like one, which is a nice addition. I'm sure in the US or where you are having a totally shaved head is much more common without shadow. O0 I hope we don't start flaming which is better. Each to his own. Having more option is always better.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: zetaeffe on April 12, 2016, 06:48:08 PM
no flaming at all!  :)
just wanted to understand what you did and for which reason: now that you explained I can say that it makes sense, even if I like better shadowfree, but it's my personal taste.
Sure with shadow looks more natural.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: fewef on April 12, 2016, 06:58:58 PM
no flaming at all!  :)
just wanted to understand what you did and for which reason: now that you explained I can say that it makes sense, even if I like better shadowfree, but it's my personal taste.
Sure with shadow looks more natural.
Thank you. Well, it's a minor difference for outside viewers. Though it makes some difference. It was very expensive though for the whole head - around 4k us for 2 sessions. To most people we are "bald" anyway, shaven or not. One dance teacher likes bald guys, she is a nice one. So all people like different stuff.  :) (I didn't believe it before, it just was my cage of frustration).
I think both totally epolated head and all tatooed look better than a horseshoe. They are consistent visually.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on April 12, 2016, 11:10:10 PM
As someone who got a head tattoo, I must say the main reason I did it was for scar concealment and not so much for the horseshoe. I will say that I am a lot less OCD about shaving when I shave wet, and it has made me shave more consistently than I did before. Also, remember that your body chemicals will eventually break the tattoo down, so touchups will be needed at some point. Also, when I want the shadow-free look, I just rub concealer all over my head.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Calvo1029 on May 23, 2016, 07:41:47 PM
It's funny with the debate that broke out in this thread, I have been debating doing micropigmentation or hair removal. Right now I have a horseshore plus a patch in front, and I can see the patch shadow when I shave bald and and the extreme thinness behind it with a tight buzz.

But I guess I could do hair removal with the tattoo to resolve this. That is why I like this board!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on May 24, 2016, 12:28:01 PM
I chose to have laser treatments because I like being sly, but my shadow was uneven.  When my hair started to go grey, I got clumps and spots of grey as well as grey hair at the temples, so my shadow was patchy.  After laser treatments my shadow is very, very faint and my scalp looks uniformly bald - a huge improvement, I think.

Micropigmentation gives the appearance of a nice even dark shadow and can look good.   

Both are permanent alterations to your scalp, so be sure you know what you want to do (and in what order if you want to do both!) 

 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Quiet_Dan on June 11, 2016, 05:33:03 PM
I just had a first laser treatment yesterday. I had been considering for some time, I just was getting sick of the major horse-shoe around the back of my head with was still quite heavy, and I am fair skinned so it was quite obvious. so time to fully embrace the baldness, and am at peace with being bald, maybe I'll do less treatments and leave it still fine, but with 4 weeks between visits there's plenty of time to think
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on June 12, 2016, 12:31:41 AM
Good luck, Dan! Keep us posted, hope it goes well...At the end of the day, we all have to do what is best for ourselves regardless of positive or adverse opinions of others.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on June 12, 2016, 05:46:27 AM
Do what you desire. We are all different.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Quiet_Dan on June 26, 2016, 03:33:18 PM
Well now I'm a few weeks down from 1 treatment, and I gotta say I'm amazed how effective it's been, though I am a realist who knows it is going to be law of diminishing returns on further treatments, even still I can't see needing anywhere near 10-12 like their suggestion said it could take. But had no side effects at all (other than less hair!)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on June 27, 2016, 10:10:27 AM
Glad to hear you are seeing good results after the first treatment.  Your shadow should continue to diminish with additional treatments.  It takes multiple treatments to effectively slow / stop the regrowth of hair, so depending on how persistent your hair is you may not need as many treatments. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on July 12, 2016, 08:50:47 PM
We finally paid off the last of our consumer debt (other than the house) and I set aside some money for laser.  I just made my first appointment for 7/26.  Did some research, found a place with good reviews that has both main laser types available, sounds knowledgeable, and has a good rating with the BBB.  My main goals are as follows:

-Eliminate folliculitis
-Speed up shaving times
-Eliminate shadow

I'm hoping I can accomplish those with only 4 - 6 treatments, but we'll see what they think at the consult.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on July 14, 2016, 02:55:29 AM
We finally paid off the last of our consumer debt (other than the house) and I set aside some money for laser.  I just made my first appointment for 7/26.  Did some research, found a place with good reviews that has both main laser types available, sounds knowledgeable, and has a good rating with the BBB.  My main goals are as follows:

-Eliminate folliculitis
-Speed up shaving times
-Eliminate shadow

I'm hoping I can accomplish those with only 4 - 6 treatments, but we'll see what they think at the consult.

How much per treatment if you dont mind me asking?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on July 14, 2016, 10:33:07 AM
I haven't had my consult yet, but they said depending on that, they baseline at $90 per session for full scalp.  Prices have come way down in the past year or so.  If you're paying much more than that, it's because it's a full dermatologists office with all of the medical overhead, or it's a salon setting where they cater to the elite.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on July 14, 2016, 11:00:17 AM
I had laser treatment to remove 4 tats but stopped after the 3rd treatment about 2 years ago as it was costly (£170) per session for 4 tats and very very painful!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on July 14, 2016, 04:03:32 PM
I've had seven laser treatments on my scalp.  I used a numbing cream immediately before the first three to reduce the pain and discomfort.  I've done the last four without numbing cream and the pain is bearable.  Much will depend on the darkness and density of your hair because dark absorbs more light energy (it's why lasers are ineffective on blond hair - they don't absorb enough energy). 

If your tattoos were very dark and complex, I can see why the laser removal was very painful.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Quiet_Dan on July 16, 2016, 01:44:46 AM
I haven't used numbing cream but I certainly felt it, especially in those few spots where my hair was thick
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: DeanJones on August 07, 2016, 05:26:17 PM
Looked into getting lasered, I have made an initial consultation, and I'm going to do it.
For me the biggest issue is the time to get to the appointment,otherwise, the price is right, and the idea of being permanently bald is attractive to me.
I have a few concerns
1. Red marks on my head after a session. I don't want to go to work with red marks, I have been told this is not an issue, but it worries me.
2. I worry about it not taking and starting to grow back again after a bit.

Has anyone had experience with this Laser that wants to share?
I want to be permanently bald. I've tried inhibitors, but they don't work. I'm happy to take a more drastic step if it means I'm permanently smooth.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Quiet_Dan on August 08, 2016, 06:52:55 AM
Well Dean, I can say in my experience in laser, there has been zero redness even straight afterwards, and after 2 sessions the main patch of hair i can grow is about 3x1.5 inches on the back of my head, so i doubt i will make it beyond 5 sessions
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on August 08, 2016, 10:26:39 AM
I had my first session two weeks ago.  No numbing creams or pain meds.  My skin is light enough that they were able to use the Alex laser, rather than the YAG.  I have extremely thick, dense hair, except on the top where my hairline is receding.

It certainly hurts, but it's over quickly.  I think she was done with my entire scalp in about 10 minutes, 15 max.  I didn't have any redness at all.  It was sore, like a sunburn, for 2 or 3 days.  I did get some bumps a few days later where the lasered hairs were trapped.  I exfoliated really well for 3 or 4 days and that seemed to go away pretty quickly.  The exfoliation made the soreness last a little longer, but you don't want all of those trapped hairs turning into ingrowns. 

Two weeks in, and I let my hair grow out for 5 days.  You can now see where the laser treatment was effective.  I've already got patchiness around the edges of my hairlines in about a 3/4" strip.

I think it will take at least 4 sessions to see significant results for me, but I think it will be worth it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on August 08, 2016, 05:04:05 PM
Dean,

Your results will depend on several factors - skin sensitivity, hair color, skill of the technician, etc.  I have very fair skin and have not experienced any red spots or even prolonged redness after my sessions.  If you have a lot of grey hair or fair hair, the laser doesn't do much for them, so they will continue to grow, but will be softer and easy to shave. As for growing back, I can't answer that at this point.

I used numbing cream before the first two sessions, but not in the next six.  The pain is bearable and the treatment goes pretty quickly.  Right after the treatment, expect your scalp to feel tight and slightly sore - like a mild sunburn.  That should go away in a day.  After the first treatment, all I had left were two patches ion the back of my head, each about 2 inches by an inch.  These were completely gone by the end of the fourth treatment.  At first, I expected to shed hair, but didn't really notice anything until about two weeks after the first treatment when one morning, I realized the hair on the top and sides was gone and my hairline had all but disappeared. 

PM me if you have other questions.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Nickd on August 09, 2016, 10:22:56 AM
I've had three sessions done so far. I don't use any numbing cream or pain meds. The only place that gets my attention is the back of my neck. The top doesn't hurt and the sides are just slightly noticeable on the pain scale. I go to a dermatologist backed by a hospital. So I pay a lot more than most others. I chose this primarily for the added benefit of having the comfort of knowing the dermatologist was properly trained and licensed.

Init I was scheduled for 6 treatments, but it'll likely go around 8 treatments to fully achieve 100% no hair.

It has so far been very effective and to this point I wo recommend it to anyone considering laser. I'll give more updates later on in the process and adjust my opinion if needed.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Calvo1029 on August 15, 2016, 08:14:18 PM
For those of you who have done this, how often do you shave now, and how long until you have a shadow, or do you not anymore?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on August 16, 2016, 10:50:35 AM
I don't have a shadow anymore.  I had a good amount of gray hair when I went for laser, so they still grow.  I shave every second or third day to remove those.  The shave goes very fast because there isn't much there.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Stepper on August 26, 2016, 03:05:05 PM
Hi Chaps, hoping those of you with laser experience can offer a bit of advice.

I have alopecia areata which is a condition where the immune system attacks the hair and causes bald patches. It’s a pain in the arse and I would rather just be bald and forget about it.

I used to shave but it wasn’t a great solution as I have thick dark hair and light skin, and the patches showed through the shadow even right after a wet shave.

I’m wondering about laser, but I’d need to completely eliminate any shadow or I’ll just end up looking patchy. Do you guys recon it’s possible to 100% eliminate any shadow with enough laser treatment? Any guidance on how long it might take to do so?

Cheers,

S
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on August 26, 2016, 03:56:17 PM
Hi Chaps, hoping those of you with laser experience can offer a bit of advice.

I have alopecia areata which is a condition where the immune system attacks the hair and causes bald patches. It’s a pain in the arse and I would rather just be bald and forget about it.

I used to shave but it wasn’t a great solution as I have thick dark hair and light skin, and the patches showed through the shadow even right after a wet shave.

I’m wondering about laser, but I’d need to completely eliminate any shadow or I’ll just end up looking patchy. Do you guys recon it’s possible to 100% eliminate any shadow with enough laser treatment? Any guidance on how long it might take to do so?

Cheers,

S

From what I've read, I think it's very possible.  They usually say somewhere around 8 sessions for someone with really dark hair.  I have very thick, very coars, very black hair, and after one session my entire top and strips around the bottom and the sides are already shadow free.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Quiet_Dan on August 26, 2016, 09:21:25 PM
yes very possible to be 100% shadow free, after 3 treatments, there's only a couple areas that show shadow (only after 2 days now), but to be fair I couldn't grow too much before-hand
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Stepper on August 27, 2016, 07:11:31 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate the replies. This sounds like it might be the way forward for me.
Any tips on choosing a clinic? Has anyone had this done in the UK?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Wound on August 28, 2016, 08:28:08 PM
Hi guys, I've had 9 laser treatments so far with Candela Gentlelase Alexandrite laser. So far I'm not happy with results. Very very patchy. Sides have worked ok- with a small round patch still evident on both sides. Top has worked well but there was not much there anyway. Around the back of head where the hair is thicker is my main concern. Right across the middle of the back of head does not appear to be working at all. Lower head towards neck has worked well and has been good for my folliculitis. But the thicker hair at the back of head hasn't really responded at all. The technician keeps telling me that it will work but it will just take time beacuse it is thicker dark hair. I'm getting very frustrated and quite anxious about it because it looks ridiculous by the end of every day (after shaving in morning) with the shadow very evident but other areas bald. Sick of people noticing and asking me what's wrong. At my last treatment the technician suggested we try the YAG laser at the next treatment as she said they get good results with people with thicker hair. Any comments on this?

I'm also not sure if she has the machine set higher enough or if she could ramp it up further. I'm not sure of the jargon but initially she was doing my head on 8 setting but last 3 treatments she upped it to 10- still with no change in that area around the back of head. And she said she uses a 24mm spot size. I had a look at the machine last treatment and this is what i saw on it- not sure what it all means though:

755
10
1.5Hz

Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated. I don't care about the cost of this I just want it to work.

Many thanks guys
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on August 30, 2016, 10:47:11 AM
Hi guys, I've had 9 laser treatments so far with Candela Gentlelase Alexandrite laser. So far I'm not happy with results. Very very patchy. Sides have worked ok- with a small round patch still evident on both sides. Top has worked well but there was not much there anyway. Around the back of head where the hair is thicker is my main concern. Right across the middle of the back of head does not appear to be working at all. Lower head towards neck has worked well and has been good for my folliculitis. But the thicker hair at the back of head hasn't really responded at all. The technician keeps telling me that it will work but it will just take time beacuse it is thicker dark hair. I'm getting very frustrated and quite anxious about it because it looks ridiculous by the end of every day (after shaving in morning) with the shadow very evident but other areas bald. Sick of people noticing and asking me what's wrong. At my last treatment the technician suggested we try the YAG laser at the next treatment as she said they get good results with people with thicker hair. Any comments on this?

I'm also not sure if she has the machine set higher enough or if she could ramp it up further. I'm not sure of the jargon but initially she was doing my head on 8 setting but last 3 treatments she upped it to 10- still with no change in that area around the back of head. And she said she uses a 24mm spot size. I had a look at the machine last treatment and this is what i saw on it- not sure what it all means though:

755
10
1.5Hz

Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated. I don't care about the cost of this I just want it to work.

Many thanks guys

I'll be having the same discussion with my tech on Friday.  I've only had one session so far, and it worked great on top, as well as along the bottom of the neck and sides, as well as around the temples.  But the rest of the horseshoe didn't seem to take.  My treatment center offers touch ups after 2 weeks if needed, so maybe that's the solution.  Otherwise I'm going to suggest we move to the YAG. 

It could have more to do with your skin tone than the thickness of your hair.  I think something about the Alex lasers rely on the contrast between skin and hair color.  If they have both laser types, then it certainly couldn't hurt to try the other one.  If you really haven't seen any improvements over the past few treatments, then I'd also be asking them to comp a few treatments for you until you start seeing proper results.  If they aren't willing to at least discount your next few treatments, then it might be time to find a different treatment center.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on September 03, 2016, 01:26:47 PM
Hi guys, I've had 9 laser treatments so far with Candela Gentlelase Alexandrite laser. So far I'm not happy with results. Very very patchy. Sides have worked ok- with a small round patch still evident on both sides. Top has worked well but there was not much there anyway. Around the back of head where the hair is thicker is my main concern. Right across the middle of the back of head does not appear to be working at all. Lower head towards neck has worked well and has been good for my folliculitis. But the thicker hair at the back of head hasn't really responded at all. The technician keeps telling me that it will work but it will just take time beacuse it is thicker dark hair. I'm getting very frustrated and quite anxious about it because it looks ridiculous by the end of every day (after shaving in morning) with the shadow very evident but other areas bald. Sick of people noticing and asking me what's wrong. At my last treatment the technician suggested we try the YAG laser at the next treatment as she said they get good results with people with thicker hair. Any comments on this?

I'm also not sure if she has the machine set higher enough or if she could ramp it up further. I'm not sure of the jargon but initially she was doing my head on 8 setting but last 3 treatments she upped it to 10- still with no change in that area around the back of head. And she said she uses a 24mm spot size. I had a look at the machine last treatment and this is what i saw on it- not sure what it all means though:

755
10
1.5Hz

Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated. I don't care about the cost of this I just want it to work.

Many thanks guys

I just spoke with my tech today.  She said my hair is so thick that it's possible that some areas didn't take well, but it's also possible that I typically have 2 - 3 hairs coming out of each follicle, and the first round only got one of them.  That's why they don't recommend fewer than 3 for anyone. 

She said either way, I should just plan on a touch up round in between appointments from now on.  If that doesn't help, we'll switch the laser.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Wound on September 05, 2016, 10:16:29 PM
I have spoken to the manager and she is taking over my treatment from now on. it seems the other tehcnicians have been apprehensive in increasing the joules due to pain factor. So she has cancelled the YAG booking and going back to the Alexandrite- but she is going to ramp it up to 16 or 18 joules and drop the spot size to 18. Fingers crossed start to see some better results around the back of head. Will report back.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on September 23, 2016, 10:34:26 AM
I just had a touch up a couple of days ago.  I've now had 2 full treatments, plus the touch up.  My tech was very surprised that it wasn't responding any better.  Everything is thinning in small strips along the hairlines, but the sides and back haven't really responded at all.  She was also surprised at just how quickly my hair grows, as she asked me not to shave for a day or two before the touch up so she could see the growth more clearly.

We're already using the Alex laser, which is the stronger of the two.  She did crank it up a little bit higher.  Ouch!  She said the pain was worse this time because the hair was longer.  It shouldn't be quite that bad when I shave the day of the treatment.

She said for the next couple of sessions, we'll try leaving it at that strenght and planning on a touch up session in between treatments to see if we can speed up the progress.

I will say that if we can get my entire head to respond as well as the top and the edges of the sides and bottom have, I will be a happy man.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Skullshaver on October 04, 2016, 03:28:15 PM
Hey, im new at this Forum because someone show me this Thread about lasering my head. I try to explain my (currently unhappy Story) about it, but my english-skills are low :D im german.

I shave my head since 2,5 years and these daily shave nervs and eats my time that i can use for better things. the result takes less than a single day and it stubble again.

I decided to laser my head early after starts to shave and on august 12 th. i had my first laser-treatment. it was an 808 nm diode-laser (type: alma lasers leda epi 808) with an 12x50 mm spot-size. The lasering itself was painfull, you feel an tingly burny pain during it inside/under the skin. irritations appears fully at day 2 after it with tiny white zits and rendness, but  without any pain.

but they do his work bungled and inaccurate and i have my head full or forgetten areas "redness in patterns". There about 50% of the entire head was missed... After this 5 irritated days i was afraid and i want to stop it, there was nothing visible after it.

Then after around 2 weeks, the Horror starts again! Hairloss starts and i have since this time my entire head full of balding spots like al tiled grid. The skin itself is fine but the hairgrow it strongly pattered, forgetten areas are full-haired and hitten areas more than 50%, some areas more than 70% bald. it looks horrible and it is visible smooth shaved too. The falled off hairs are good noticeable during shaving as longer stubbles at the foam.

after a horrible month, i try to go in an different studio and they treatmentet me with an Laser called "soprano ICE alexandrit-laser". wavelength was 755 nm and used in SHR (super hairremoval) mode with moved spot over the head. Settings: 8 Youle. But unfortunely there appear no effect. Only some stubble at the lower back-head or neck appears around day 14 but nothing more - no visible changes.

the frustrations goes very extreme with nightmares and everything gets horrible... the treatmentet woman from this studio contact my "old" studio were the first bungled but effective treatment was doned because im not able for trouble-discuss with them. she calls as my advocate at this studio and i got an full treatment to the half price to normal.

This Treatment looks like to be doned more accurate with less forgetten areas (i dont saw an tiled redness after it, but redness only appeared on forgetten areas from 1 treatment and not on almost bald spots) After 5 Days with irritation, im able to shave my head and after day 7, irritations was fully gone.

Now its day 11 and i still dont see changes and having no stubbles in foam on shaving today. they has treatment me with same laser and same settings (i ask about the settings that they will be the same like from first worked but bungled treatment) My head is still full of hitten/forgetten areas and looks horrible, an horror-nightmare without awakening.

I dont want to life with these horrible squares on head, its still strongly visible after my regular daily smooth-shave as an gray shadow (have dark brown/black hair and light skin) and i dont know what i can do if this treatment fails too -without any understandable reason. why a thing can work the first time but not at second one with exaclty the same settings/conditions?

I want to go bald permanent but if i had know this horror before, i never do it!

An here at germany its strongly harder to find good solutions to fix it than at the USA.. The almost studios dont do heads here :(

Im so extreme frustrated and it reduced my life-quality near 0... i cannot left the house without a cap to hide this sh*t on head and every look at the mirrir remindes me on it. Im getting sick of this and my family hates my bald head and i dont get any help at this point...

Waxing-Epilating is "no way!" for me. it need 2 weeks hairgrowth and the result takes only short time and same sh*t. and im surely get big zits and bumps from it. my entire back is full of acne all time but shaving dont produces zits on head, only few, tiny ones at neck sometimes.

In real its often more visible than the pics show (lightning makes some differences)

Picture 1: 2 Days after first bungled laser-treatment (see the tiled spots and forgetten areas)the redness are so steong because i do the bad mistake and have shaved...)

Pic 2: the horrible effect after about 2 weeks, after day 15 it goes visible... (back head)
Pic 3: front-side-view.
pic 4: after last lasering, day 3 after it on top (unshaved)

This look beginns to make me sick. I cannot eat normal and get weigh-loss. nightmares about it and permanent frustration. if this dont ends, im on best way to fall into depression :(


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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Quiet_Dan on October 05, 2016, 01:33:46 AM
yikes, that's pretty rough mate. I don't have enough experience to help, but I would definitely be making some noise at the place that did it. I know I haven't had any redness at all. and just a bit of irritation when they turned it up higher
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Skullshaver on October 05, 2016, 04:36:03 AM
I have making some trouble there about this bungle and i got an treatment for half price than normal. but its now 12 days ago and nothing changes and no stubbles during shaving at the foam...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Nickd on October 05, 2016, 10:24:13 AM
That's definitely a bummer how that came out. Obviously the person doing the laser has poor technique. If done properly it wouldn't have done that. The good news is that can easily be fixed with more sessions targeting those areas. Hang in there it will get better soon.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Skullshaver on October 05, 2016, 10:48:47 AM
The last Treatment to fix it was 12 Days ago and there still no changes. But today, i got some stubbles during shave inside the foam but no high counts. i hope it will worked and this horrible spots removed...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on October 05, 2016, 11:52:01 AM
The last Treatment to fix it was 12 Days ago and there still no changes. But today, i got some stubbles during shave inside the foam but no high counts. i hope it will worked and this horrible spots removed...

I think you probably just need more treatments.  From everything I've read, when you have thick, dark hair, it takes 8 - 12 sessions for complete hair removal.  I've only done 2 full treatments and 1 touch up, and I too have a very patchy growth going on, and removal only along the edges of the hairline so far.  But I saved up for a minimum of 10 treatments before I started, just to make sure.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Skullshaver on October 05, 2016, 02:00:45 PM
The spots are an result of bungle and bad doned, inaccurate work! Every hairy spot is an forgetten Area that dont got lasered in first treatment (see the pattern-redness!). Every lasered area have hairloss! The sides around the ears are almost bald and the balding "strips" itself, i think more than 70% hairloss on sides, no shadow and still smooth and shadeless after an entire day. if they dont had bungled the first one, this spots dont appears with this itensity!

In my case, its just human error and bungle at work! surely it need more treatments for complete baldness but bungle was not calculated in the count of treatments... but i hope that the last treatment with same laser continues the progress and reduces this horrible look...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on October 05, 2016, 03:10:59 PM


Just my opinion, but your experience matches most of the experiences that I've heard about (including most of the ones chronicled in this post).  It's not that they missed spots.  It's just that the hair is so thick, it will take quite a few treatments for some of the areas to respond.  Most people I've heard from say that they deal with patchiness up until somewhere between 4 and 6 treatments.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on October 05, 2016, 08:25:27 PM
That's a botch job for sure, Skullshaver.  I don't inoe a whole lot about it, but really you haven't been doing it for very long, so i imagine that in time, with continued treatments the rest of your hair will fall out.  It may take a while, but I can't imagine that this isn't fixable.  Hang in there and I'm sure it will improve.

Just out of curiosity, it looks like you were starting with a full head of hair and you're still young. What made you opt for permanent removal?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Skullshaver on October 06, 2016, 05:41:19 AM
I would bet everything I have that the un-balding areas are missed, i feel it while treatment that the movement of the laser was to high for get hit the most areas. i have making nearly hundreds of pictures from my head and every red area from picture 1 got transformed into an balding spot with same dimensions of the redness before.

The efficiency of this 1 treatment was high and thats the reason for the strong visibility of the missed areas.

The proof is overwhelming that has been bungled here :) But its correct that more treatments needed to get the endresult.

This bungle of the first Treatment is like 0,6 Treatments in Truth. I have make trouble at there and i got to half price an new treatment and im waiting now for an new hairloss on the missed areas so the horrible spots gets reduced. "spots in spots" are not possible because they are almost bald!

Its day 13 after last treatment now and i hope that stubbles appear during the shave today.

Unhappily, i have full hair and no signs for natural balding. i doned this step in hope of an regular, permanent bald head without this sucking and time-eating shave.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on October 06, 2016, 10:51:00 AM
 It isn't unusual to have some dark spots after each treatment, but they should become smaller and smaller as time goes on.  With several more properly-done treatments, the spots / pattern should be gone and you should be more evenly bald.

Because you had a full head of hair, it may take more treatments to remove enough of your hair to the point where it is no longer noticeable.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on October 06, 2016, 12:29:20 PM
Skull, i think it needs time mate.

Have you thought of seeking out another company than can offer laser for the hair? If only to get feedback from them?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Skullshaver on October 06, 2016, 01:59:34 PM
Yes, im thinking about to search an other "company" that do laser-treatments if nothing changes after this current treatment. there are only some stubbles at foam since 2 days but no high counts. i will wait some more time up to day 20 (1 week) if nothing happens, i try to find an other solution for it.

i have changed after 1 treatment to an studio with an alexandrit-laser and SHR-technics (super hair removal). the laserspot work "in motion" with several shots but with lower energy at each flash. i got treatmentet with 8 youle (the almost treatments are doned with 10 J) but unfortunely there comes only few stubbles without any visible effect. the energy was to low or this laser/SHR-method dont works at me. :(

She told me i have skin type 2 (1 is lightest) with normal hair-thickness, normaly best conditions.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Skullshaver on October 08, 2016, 08:08:39 AM
Day 15 and i got stubbles at the Foam since 3 Days, today with higher count! Its since 3 Days "shaving with joy" :D I hope that this will be the exit out from this nightmare so that the head looks more regular and the firstly forgetten areas goes bald too..
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Semi-Sly on October 08, 2016, 01:13:34 PM
 Just hang in there and I'm very sure of the things will work out for you .   I have had laser hair removal done  on several areas of my body.   They all work differently and they all need a different amounts of treatment. 

 Also, as they warned me,   Even spots that were relatively clear the hair started regrowing after about two years and I had to repeat the treatments  there's just no magic fix  for perfect hair removal
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Skullshaver on October 09, 2016, 01:18:51 PM
Day 16 and high amount of stubbles now, i think there is something changed, the itensity og the tiles spots goes less - it looks like so. i hope that the already falled of hairs dont comes back. the balding spots are bald for 5 weeks without signs of regrowing :D
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on October 09, 2016, 02:09:41 PM
Day 16 and high amount of stubbles now, i think there is something changed, the itensity og the tiles spots goes less - it looks like so. i hope that the already falled of hairs dont comes back. the balding spots are bald for 5 weeks without signs of regrowing :D

Glad to hear it's getting better.  Hang in there.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on October 09, 2016, 06:02:32 PM
That is good news!  Hope you see progress in the coming days.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Skullshaver on October 14, 2016, 04:47:49 AM
The last treatment works and new strong hairloss appear. the head keeps shiny now after a many time without shave. before lasering, the surface getting rough. and now it keeps shiny but there are still hairs with strong reduced density.

but there are still an area that giot forgetten and is not lasered... but i have an treatment today and i hope that every part of my head got minium 1x lasered then.

I have created an website about my laser-story but the english version have some issues because my english-skills are not the best. http://www.scalp-lasering.com/eng/index.htm (http://www.scalp-lasering.com/eng/index.htm)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on October 15, 2016, 05:03:44 PM
Sounds like things are getting better!  That's great!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Hieu Tran on October 16, 2016, 02:40:16 AM
You know, I'm one of your fan on youtube before you were here.

Still hope that you can record one of your treatment lol.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Skullshaver on October 17, 2016, 12:46:55 PM
I had an next treatment on last friday but an bad feeling about it. i think that they throttled the settings down because the irritations are less than after treatments before and i saw different settings on the laser-screen at like before. there was 2 settings visible the value on top was "22" (fluence) and below "12". at the treatment before i mean to saw "50" on the upper value but im not 100% sure but i have an bad feelign that i got throttled down.

if they throttle, it can be an attempt to stretch my count of needed treatments into the length and i have to pay more treatments for the same effect than with the very effective settings before. (bad method to earn money - longer time for result + additional pain and issues!)

The head looks lower irritated than after the last treatments there. Only some tiny zits and moderate redness on more haired areas but no heavy mass of zits. but the treatment was painfull too with a bit lower pain than before.

If my bad feeling get confirmed in 2-3 weeks (no or low effect), the trusting relationsship will be fully destroyed and im not longer able to go to this studio and i have to find another effective studio to complete it... normaly they have to notice every used settings by german medical laws.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on October 17, 2016, 01:42:22 PM
Maybe it has been turned down because they realised they had set it much too high before!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Skullshaver on October 20, 2016, 10:48:13 AM
The first settings are the best settings = very effective and no skin-damages after healing up the irritations. no blisters and no pain after it. if they had throttle the settings, they do it against me to get my money and stretch the amount of needed treatments. i have to get more treatments than with the correct, firstly used settings. its now day 6 after it and after day 12-13, hairloss have to start. if nothing happens or too low, it would be a proof for my theory. normaly they use more energy with higher counts of doned treatments.

if i have proofs for it i will make severe trouble there because im scamed with thripple costs: additional pain/issues, money and the psychical aspect for it. if i can prove it, they will hear from my advocat - i my head is not a playground! I want my money for throttled treatments back + pain money!

but i wait the next 2 weeks. i will see what happens or not. then i make strong trouble if nothing happens. at germany, they have to write the used settings into an "book". so in this case i would want to get it showed!

The first treatment was bungle (another way to artificially the number of necessary treatments  to the height and earn more money) The second treatments was good, but with forgetten areas too but not like the first one. The 3 rd treatment was last friday and it has lower pain and lower irritations then before and i saw an different number on the laser-screen but im not 100% sure about the case of throttle. the next 2 weeks will show me the truth about it!

The pictue shows my back head 2 days after last shave (48 h between shavings) Dark areas are forgetten.
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PS: The watermark is nessessary for me to prevent stealing my content! i found many photos from me on other sites that got stolen by stupid users out of an closed forum that dont respect privacy and copyright. founded pictures are flaged by me as copyright-infringement and they got deleted instantly.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on October 22, 2016, 02:34:50 PM
Dark areas may not be areas forgotten just that those areas were not as successful as the others!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on October 22, 2016, 04:37:39 PM
Looks a lot better!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: zetaeffe on November 02, 2016, 09:28:16 AM
any news since the last post? you getting more hairloss?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: apocalyps3 on November 10, 2016, 12:04:07 PM
Hey all, I visited this forum years ago (2009) while thinking about getting laser hair removal on my scalp.  I ended up doing it and it dawned on me today I should provide some details on my experience if it might help someone.  There's 65 pages on this thread and I haven't come close to reading all of them, so apologies in advance if this has been covered ad nauseam and isn't all that helpful/informative.

Unfortunately (or fortunately for me), I can't comment on price.  A friend of mine's mother has a laser hair removal place and she was nice enough to do it for me for free.  She was worried about the pain level (and also because I think it was pro bono work), so she wanted to take it slow.  We did about 12 or 13 sessions, once a month for a little over a year.

Each session took about 20 minutes.  Yes, for me it was painful, but it was generally very temporary.  Each strike of the laser was like getting jabbed with a needle, but it stopped hurting almost right away.  The soft spots (like around the temple) were must more painful than the harder parts (back and top of the head). There was a little bit of soreness afterward, but it wasn't bad at all. 

Since it took about a year, there was a time period where it was a little awkward looking.  If I didn't keep up on the shaving then I would kind of get these light spots on my scalp where there was obviously less hair growing.  I'm sure I looked like a jack-o-lantern with just a bunch of quarter sized holes carved. Eventually it started to even out and I wasn't as freakish looking.

As for the results, I'm mostly happy with it.  I still have to shave, but only every other day.  I could probably go longer without anyone noticing, but by the 2nd day, the feel of the stubble bothers me too much. It really helped with that "5am shadow" problem by getting rid of most of the dark hair.  What's left now is very light colored/blond which isn't very noticeable. 

I probably need to go back and have someone clean up the sideburn area in front of my ears.  There are some dark hairs there that she missed and I have to address more frequently.  Not a problem, but can be annoying that they need shaving more than the rest of the head.

I would 100% do it again given the choice over again.  I wish it was 100% removal so I didn't have to shave at all, but its much easier to shave and maintain now than it used to be. 

Happy to answer any questions if anyone has any.  I did this back in 2009/2010 so my memory may be a little fuzzy on the exact details.  In hindsight, I wish I had done a photo log/journal of it for at least my own entertainment.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on November 11, 2016, 07:11:47 AM
Glad to hear you had good results and are happy with your decision.  I opted for laser myself and have done eight treatments.  I've had similar results and really like the "shadow-free" look.  I am glad I decided to go for it.

For anyone contemplating laser, PM me if you have any questions.
Title: Laser hair removal failed
Post by: Skullshaver on November 25, 2016, 04:08:35 AM
Long time without an Update and the Horror comes back... The most hairs regrows since 2-3 Weeks and the strips and patches comes back. So i have stop lasering because the trusting relationship is complete destroyed. my head looks like after the first treatment with this horrible look and i have decided to tweeze my head at the future.

i cant life with this horror and there is no other way to end this without tweezing or waxing (waxing is the very last way if tweezing dont works, because waxing needes longer hairs than epilating and the count of horrible unshaved days before higher...

Lasering was the wrongest decision at my whole life and i wish to undone it... they bungle my head to horror...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Deemota on November 29, 2016, 05:52:55 AM
Hello,

Thank you for posting. Im really debating whether to do laser hair removal or micro scalp pigmentation. My problem is that I pretty much have a full of hair. I only shave because my hairline a mess. However, You can still see it because im light skinned. I mostly wear hats except where I cant.

My big concern with scalp pigmentation is what if I dont like it, it's horrible to try to undo. I love the bald look and would love to be clean shaven without having to shave. My concern with the laser is that I have seen some nightmares as well. How will I look in between treatments? Will I look worse? This also flies into my head.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have very dark course hair as well.

Thank you in advance.




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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sasha1 on December 10, 2016, 01:13:09 PM
hello everybody.

i started my laser epilation treatment.

after first procedure, the effect was only at the top of the head (mbp area), and over the ears a little bit. it burned only the weakest hairs, maybe their follicules are located on the minor depth then the others. we tried to increase the power, but still no effect.

based on the information i found on enternet, i think the laser we used cant go deeper then 4mm in depth and thats why it doesnt burn follicules (they are located on the 5-6mm depth).

my treatment was done by Alexandrite laser (Candela GentleLase) on 25, 30 and 35 J/cm2 power.

can somebody recommend me which laser type should I use and what power to set? maybe diode laser or neodymium Nd:YAG laser?

yes, i would like to ask the specialist in our cosmetology centers or clinics, but no one of them never did laser epilation on the scalp and they can t help me with that. they only say "well. lets try this, lets try ".

help me please. my head looks verry terrifying for 3 month long, and i worry of staying with this look forever

sorry for bad english. and thanks for your help.

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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on December 12, 2016, 11:00:00 AM
I think you just need more treatments.  I'll post some pictures in a couple of weeks, but I started out just like that.  I just finished my 4th treatment, and the edges keep recedind a little more with each treatment.  It's happening slowly, but it is working.  If you read through this entire thread, you'll see that it's common for people with really thick hair to need 8 - 12 full treatments. 

hello everybody.

i started my laser epilation treatment.

after first procedure, the effect was only at the top of the head (mbp area), and over the ears a little bit. it burned only the weakest hairs, maybe their follicules are located on the minor depth then the others. we tried to increase the power, but still no effect.

based on the information i found on enternet, i think the laser we used cant go deeper then 4mm in depth and thats why it doesnt burn follicules (they are located on the 5-6mm depth).

my treatment was done by Alexandrite laser (Candela GentleLase) on 25, 30 and 35 J/cm2 power.

can somebody recommend me which laser type should I use and what power to set? maybe diode laser or neodymium Nd:YAG laser?

yes, i would like to ask the specialist in our cosmetology centers or clinics, but no one of them never did laser epilation on the scalp and they can t help me with that. they only say "well. lets try this, lets try ".

help me please. my head looks verry terrifying for 3 month long, and i worry of staying with this look forever

sorry for bad english. and thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sasha1 on December 12, 2016, 02:29:54 PM
I think you just need more treatments.  I'll post some pictures in a couple of weeks, but I started out just like that.  I just finished my 4th treatment, and the edges keep recedind a little more with each treatment.  It's happening slowly, but it is working.  If you read through this entire thread, you'll see that it's common for people with really thick hair to need 8 - 12 full treatments.

thank you for reply. i just started to read the topic.

hmmm. i thought each single hair can be only burned or not burned at all during the procedure, no any medium state.

still will appreciate the info from the guys succeded with their laser treatment : what laser had your doctor used?

in case if I couldnt find that info on the topics pages.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on December 13, 2016, 11:58:46 AM

thank you for reply. i just started to read the topic.

hmmm. i thought each single hair can be only burned or not burned at all during the procedure, no any medium state.

still will appreciate the info from the guys succeded with their laser treatment : what laser had your doctor used?

in case if I couldnt find that info on the topics pages.

My understanding is that there are a few factors
-Only hair in an active growth stage can be permanently removed via laser.  Not every single hair is in the same growth stage at any given time, so you'll never get complete removal with only a single treatment.
-With extremely thick hair, it can take multiple sessoions to thin the hair down to the point where the follicle is effectively lasered as well.
-In a single session, it's impossible for the laser tech to hit every single follicle on your head, so some will inevitably be missed.

I'm sure there's more, but just those 3 items alone would require multiple treatments.

Ask about touch up sessions about 2 weeks following your actual treatment.  Because my hair is responding so slowly (like yours) my laser tech just has me come in for "touch up" treatments where she hits all of the areas that haven't fully responded yet.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Semi-Sly on December 13, 2016, 04:00:18 PM
of all of the guys who i have seen posti g about this you seem to be one of the few who is actually pleased.

do you have a series of photos you could share?

were you already thin/mpb before you devided to do this?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on December 14, 2016, 04:58:09 PM
of all of the guys who i have seen posti g about this you seem to be one of the few who is actually pleased.

do you have a series of photos you could share?

were you already thin/mpb before you devided to do this?

If you read through the entire thread, I think you'll find that more people were pleased with the results than dissapointed.  Give me another week or so and I'll post some pics.  I just had session 4 on Friday and it takes about 2 weeks for all of the hair that responds to finally fall out. 

I don't think I have any from before starting, but I have some from after the second treatment.  When I started my hair was receding on the top, but not terribly.  I didn't really have any balding on the sides or back yet.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Wound on December 16, 2016, 02:18:35 PM
Just reporting back with an update. So the manager took over my treatment and ramped up the Alexandrite settings to 20 joules at 20mm spot size. My god did this hurt! I have a high pain tolerance but this was off the charts. A couple of times I had a blister from a burn- but I never complained because I knew the settings had to be high. I had 4 sessions on these settings and it did help get rid of the silly looking rings on the side of the head. It also helped a bit with the thick band of hair at the back- the band wasn't quite as wide but it was still very noticeable. She was very surprised that it hadn't worked completely around the back. I was so frustrated as I was so sick and tired of looking ridiculous with that tensing thick band of dark hair across the back of my head.

So two weeks a go we tried the YAG laser and I'm pleased to say it has worked really well on that band of thick hair across the back of my head. It's taken 2 weeks to shed. It's not perfect but it's so much better already after only 1 YAG session. I'm going to hug my technician when I see her in a couple of weeks.

This has been a long frustrating and stressful journey over the last 15 months but I think I'm finally getting there. I still have some stubble but it's not too bad- and hopefully a few more YAG sessions will knock it off. Around the ears/sideburns area needs some attention still.

My first YAG session settings were 24 joules at 18mm spot size. The pain was absolutely ridiculous. It was honestly horrific. I couldn't drive home straight away- I needed to sit down with a glass of water for 10 minutes. My head was thumping. I did blister again this time. But it's all for a good cause.

So my suggestion for anyone left with dark resilient patches at the back of the head- move to the YAG laser- I wish I had done so earlier.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp - Just Askin'
Post by: Semi-Sly on December 17, 2016, 10:42:05 AM
Hello Guys:

I think I know the answer that I will receive from you all; but just in case:

I have been told numerous times that laser will not remove hair that has already turned grey.  I have a completely bearded Tragus (ear) and it is impossible to shave well in front of my ears.  But my hair has already gone grey and the beard/sideburn  hair is the very thickest and coarsest that I have.

Has ANYONE had any success with laser hair removal of hairs like mine?

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on December 19, 2016, 09:46:25 AM
Thanks for the Update.  I'll have to ask my tech about trying the YAG when I go in for my touch up next week.  I had the discussion once, but she said the Alex should be more effective, as it's a higher power laser than the YAG.  My 4th session doesn't seem to have done much, so at this point it's probably worth it to try the other laser and see what happens.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on December 19, 2016, 04:56:43 PM
of all of the guys who i have seen posti g about this you seem to be one of the few who is actually pleased.

do you have a series of photos you could share?

were you already thin/mpb before you devided to do this?


I'm really pleased with the results of my laser treatments.  After the first treatment, I had two spots on the back of my head that were still dark, each about 1" x 3".  These continued to get smaller with each treatment and were gone by the fourth treatment.  I've had a total of nine treatments and at this point I have no noticeable shadow or hairline anymore - I look completely bald.  The laser does not work on grey hair, so I still shave to remove that, but I can go several days without noticeable growth.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sasha1 on December 20, 2016, 09:11:17 AM
My first YAG session settings were 24 joules at 18mm spot size. The pain was absolutely ridiculous. It was honestly horrific. I couldn't drive home straight away- I needed to sit down with a glass of water for 10 minutes. My head was thumping. I did blister again this time. But it's all for a good cause.

thanks for settings of your YAG session.
i made my test session with YAG today on 10mm spot size with 35 joules power.
will see results after 2-3 weeks.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sasha1 on December 20, 2016, 09:48:38 AM
little thoughts about Alexandrite and Nd:YAG lasers for scalp hair epilation.

first of all, when i tried to google the effective depth of laser penetration i found a lot of illustrations where the Diode and Alexandrite lasers have mostly the same depth, not reaching the follicule, and the Nd:YAG depth much more deeper and reachs the follicule.

second, the description of Nd:YAG system equipment claims that Nd:Yag not only contentrate emitted energy in melanin of hair, but also in hemoglobin and oxyhemoglobin, thus destructing the blood circulatory system feeding the hair.

third, i found Candela's article about thats two lasers, and thats some points taken from it:

1. Wavelengths of lasers:

alexandrite - 755 nm,
diode - 810nm,
Nd:YAG - 1064nm

2. Emitting diffusion factor :

Longer waves have deeper penetration

3. Emitting absorption by melanin factor :

Short waves have great absorption level in superficial layer of skin. Thats why it can reach only hair bodies (or stem, not sure how it translates to english) and not deep located bulbs.
Opposite to short waves, Nd:YAG can penetrate the skin deeply and reach deep located bulbs.

4. Photothermolysis selectivity level (the relation between the temperature of heated follicule and the temperature of epidermis) factor :

Only waves greater than 1000nm (like Nd:YAG) provides this relation greater than 1 (in other words, follicule temperature is greater than skin temperature) on the depth greater than 3mm.

5.  Spot size and depth relation:

To avoid the effect of emmiting diffusion the spot must be greater than desired penetration depth (follicule location depth in our case).

---

My hair follicules located on 5-6mm depth. And all that points explains me why my Alexandrite sessions have such undistinguished results.

Im not a doctor. Thats only what i found in open sources, trying to use mostly scientific resources. Translated as good as I can.

Lets share knowledge, lets share what equipment and settings you used on your succesful sessions.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Marc_ldn on January 16, 2017, 02:09:14 AM
Remember laser hair will not work on grey and blonde hair. It's hair reduction not complete removal. I had 9 sessions in London I still have a shadow although i was greying.
It's expensive yes cost me £131.00 each session..
I feel for me it was worth it but don't expect to remove everything just bare in mind you will still have to shave from time to time.
Good luck
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: aimeusdietger on January 19, 2017, 01:51:55 AM
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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Juansito on January 21, 2017, 07:05:29 PM
Anyone know a good spot for laser treatment in New York?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: viccash on January 22, 2017, 02:10:07 AM
Anyone know a good spot for laser treatment in New York?

For everyone in New York, I highly recommend Satori Laser. Very clean, very friendly and knowledgeable staff, and very high quality machines. Visit:

http://www.satorilaser.com/

They have several locations in New York.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on February 22, 2017, 10:40:27 AM
Quick update.  For those who have really dark, thick hair that isn't as responsive to the Alex laser, switch to the YAG.

I had my first 4 treatments with the Alex.  The first treatment nearly eliminated all of the hair on the top.  Second and third each responded a little less effectively, but still gave me some additional recession on the sides and the bottom of the back.  Fourth treatment didn't seem to do much at all.

After reading up a little more on this thread, I convinced my tech to switch me to the YAG for treatment 5.  about 7 or 8 days after my YAG treatment, I noticed that what was left on the sides and back seemed to be growing in slower.  I usually shave every two days (for comfort reasons) and I needed to wait 3 or 4 days instead.  About 14 days after my YAG treatment, I noticed the back had become very patchy, with large portions finally responding.  Not completely eliminated like the first few treatments with the Alex, but significantly reduced thickness and growth rate.

I just had my touch up for treatment 5, so I'll check back in a couple of weeks and let everyone know whether the patchiness is reduced further.

Big thanks to @Wound and @Sasha1 for their recommendations there.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Conservator on March 06, 2017, 04:21:27 PM
What is the approximate cost of each treatment?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on March 07, 2017, 09:39:02 AM
It depends on where you live.  If you follow the link Viccash posted below, you'll see a $200+ dollar price tag in the New York City area.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: viccash on March 07, 2017, 09:59:09 AM
What is the approximate cost of each treatment?

The place I go charges $200 a session. However, I purchase a package of 6 sessions for $1,000. So I am basically paying for the price of 5. It is a good bundle.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: viccash on March 07, 2017, 10:10:32 AM
For anyone who is interested in laser hair removal on the scalp, it will take more sessions than you think you need. Laser hair removal requires patience. It is a slow process. It doesn't happen over night. It might not even happen during your first year. I went in for my first session in November 2014. My shadow started to fade away after my first treatment, but I had multiple patches. The patches disappear gradually over time. The shadow will also continue to disappear. After my 6th session, my shadow was nonexistent. My patches also reduced. By session 12, I had 0 patches. By this time, if any hair grew, it was generally peach fuzz in certain areas. Some areas just never grew hair again. It is now March 2017. I recently finished my 18th session. I am completely hairless. It was the best decision I have made in my life. I also have to mention. Everyone's experiences with laser hair removal will be different than others due to hair texture, hair thickness, the amount of hair that you have to begin with, and of course, genetics. Some people will require more sessions than others. Some people will feel more pain than others. Some people will experience more patches than others. During my first few sessions, I experienced these "tombstones." My hairs seemed thicker than they originally were. And they looked like rocks, and they could not be shaved. They were burned hairs. They eventually fell out within a week. Honestly, I looked worst after my first session than I did originally. But after a week, I noticed the results. And it was working. Some of you will be miserable during the beginning of the journey. But not everyone experiences this. Just be patient, and have a positive attitude.  Everyone's journey could be different. However, I do believe that everyone can get admirable results.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on March 08, 2017, 06:37:15 AM
I can echo most of what Viccash said.  After the first treatment, I had a dark, rough shadow and shaving did nothing to smooth it out.  Then about a week afterward, I noticed that the dark hair was almost completely gone from the sides and top.  What remained on the back were two dark spots each about three inches by one and a half inches.  It took four sessions before these spots were gone and I had a uniformly clear-looking scalp.  Since then, the treatments have continued to diminish any shadow and I have no hairline left.  What hair remains is gray / white (laser doesn't work on this since it doesn't absorb enough energy).

Laser does take time and patience.  In my case, I was lucky that so much hair disappeared after the first treatment. I will admit feeling self conscious about the dark spots until they were gone, but am glad I went through with it because I like the look and feel of being bald. 

If you are contemplating laser treatment, be sure you want to do it and are willing to go through the transition period since individual results can vary widely.  In my case, I reached the point of no return (i.e., would not be able to grow my hair back) right after the first treatment because so much hair was gone.   
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldguy86 on April 13, 2017, 06:36:48 PM
Hey guys ive just gone for my first laser hair treatment ...im fine with being a bald guy i actually perfer it but i do hate the ahadow thats why im going with laser hair removal n just to say it was painfull probably the most pain didnt last long but when there zapping away wow havnt seen any result buts its only been 24hrs since my firat treatment have to sayit is way more smooth then shaving srry i didnt specify my shadow is what they call a horse shoe dark on the sides my skin is pale so its very noticable n i dont feel fresh or comfertable after a shave illl keep u guys posted n make sure to upload a picture here n there
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on April 14, 2017, 11:35:42 AM
You may not notice much of a change for several days after the treatment, but then in about 7 -
 10 days you'll notice how much of the shadow is gone. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Baldguy86 on April 15, 2017, 09:11:39 PM

(https://s11.postimg.org/dm69xis1f/20170415_210932.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vozcoqnvz/)
This is my head after day 3 of my first treatment
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(https://s14.postimg.org/gsk6m0g2p/20170415_210911.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4160fi6al/)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Semi-Sly on April 19, 2017, 06:28:58 PM
I guess that I can see  why someone might want to go laser if they have a dark MPB  shadow; but would any of you who are BBC go for laser hair removal?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: SonicNoodles on April 25, 2017, 03:09:55 AM
I'm BBC and I would definitely do it if I could afford it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: reddog on April 25, 2017, 06:21:14 AM
Having white hair, I have no shadow at all, so the only benefit for me would eliminate the daily shave. That would be nice, but I still have urges to grow back my hair periodically, although I never make it more than 6 or 8 weeks before shaving it all again.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Goatee on May 01, 2017, 02:00:44 PM
No, i would not use laser on my head.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: baldjoeg on May 05, 2017, 09:39:57 AM
I wouldn't either.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: DeanJones on July 07, 2017, 10:02:32 AM
I want to. I love being bald and I hope to one-day laser it so I can be permanently bald.
I think my hesitation right now is the cost, and the knowledge that it will be a time investment of more than a year, otherwise I would do it right now. I am bald by choice, and I plan on never having hair again.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: amatlock2778 on July 08, 2017, 09:35:14 AM
If it werent so expensive, painful, and needing of multiple tratments to satisfactory results, i definitely would. I love being bald, plan on staying bbc until the day i die, and to never have to shave again, while still always having totally smooth scalp would be great. But since i like to shave my entire body, head to toe other than eyebrows, ehich i just trim, well that would be just too darned much. Maybe someday somebody will develop a pill for prople who want to become permanently hairless head to toe.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sasha1 on July 20, 2017, 10:45:20 AM
i made 5x treatments on Nd:Yag laser (Deka Syncro FT), one session every month.
i tried different settings up to 50J power and 25 ms time of impulse.

and it completely grows back after 2-3 monthes. with no any long-term effect.

i m asking for help. i m losing hope to get rid of my hair.

please, tell me on which equipment and with which settings you succeed to permanently epilate your hair.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: goncalohf on April 22, 2018, 06:06:21 PM
I’m lasering my all head. I did 3 treatments and still have hair groing but in patches. Some parts I can’t see any hairs growing. I hope all my head will be as smooth as possible
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on April 26, 2018, 09:13:06 AM
Depending on how think your hair is, it can take a while.  I had 12 sessions and then 2 more about a year later.  I have no shadow or dark spots. Only the gray hair I had still grows because lasers don’t work on gray/white hair.

What is interesting is that no one seems to have noticed that my shadow is gone.  My wife likes my completely bald look better than the shaved look. I do too.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: conshyguy on May 31, 2018, 05:34:14 PM
THANK YOU ALL FOR SHARING...I WILL  BE MAKING ARRANGEMENTS SOON TO GET PROCESS STARTED IN HOPES OF GETTING ALL HAIR REMOVED
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: muscleoscar on June 09, 2018, 02:57:26 PM
Does anyone know where can I have a scalp laser hair removal in Vancouver Canada?thanks
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: scooby on June 10, 2018, 12:20:23 PM
wouldnt you get the same results if you shaved your head.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: skinhead002 on July 19, 2018, 01:15:36 PM
Most of us want to get rid of any shadow. Im seriously thinking about tweezing again.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on July 22, 2018, 10:04:55 AM
Laser treatments reduce or eliminate the shadow, but they do not remove gray / white hair, so you still have to shave (although less frequently) if you have a lot of gray/white hair.  The change in appearance can be transformational.  Instead of a visible hairline shadow, the scalp appears uniformly bald.   
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sasha1 on August 07, 2018, 08:20:32 PM
Depending on how think your hair is, it can take a while.  I had 12 sessions and then 2 more about a year later.  I have no shadow or dark spots.

what laser machine have you used?

i did already about 10 or more treatments, on different machines and laser types. still regrowing all the hairs (thin hairs after 2 month of no treatment, and then they become thicker and thicker)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Semi-Sly on October 18, 2018, 11:06:35 PM
the hair on myhead is mostly white/grey so it won't work for me.  But if it did work, I would do it.  My hair has gotten so thin and whispy that growing hair is no longer a realistic choice.  So, then I would rather it be completely gone because I don't like shaving myself.


I so get my scalp lasered several times a year anyway to remove pre-cancerous spots.  The pain really isn't all THAT bad.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on October 23, 2018, 11:21:31 AM
the hair on myhead is mostly white/grey so it won't work for me.  But if it did work, I would do it.  My hair has gotten so thin and whispy that growing hair is no longer a realistic choice.  So, then I would rather it be completely gone because I don't like shaving myself.


I so get my scalp lasered several times a year anyway to remove pre-cancerous spots.  The pain really isn't all THAT bad.
i may do it. i'm prob 90% bald except a little on the side and back, which grows slowly. I have to shave 1-2x a week to stay looking smooth. for the right price, i would hang-up the razor for sure.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: reddog on October 23, 2018, 12:18:01 PM
Chris, if you only have that little bit left, would it be worth it? It's a pain in the butt for us BBC guys that have an entire head to keep smooth! And I have to shave everyday because I like it completely smooth.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: scooby on October 23, 2018, 03:05:35 PM
does it cost a lot to have that done.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on October 23, 2018, 04:41:42 PM
Chris, if you only have that little bit left, would it be worth it? It's a pain in the butt for us BBC guys that have an entire head to keep smooth! And I have to shave everyday because I like it completely smooth.
i guess I'm lazy. If I could goto zero maintenance and stay completely smooth, I would be happy. once in a while, I'll skip miss a few shaves and wake up with the dreaded toilet seat, which looks sick on me. figure just finish what nature started.  LOL
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: CormacUK on November 02, 2018, 07:58:16 AM
I'm looking to go through this process. Has anyone in the UK had a good laser hair removal experience at a particular clinic? Please let me know if you know of anywhere. I'd rather not be a guinea pig at a place where it's been never before done.

I am in my 20s, and have lost a substantial amount of my hair. I have pale skin and dark hair. I would like as little shadow as possible, but cannot face shaving my head day in day out any longer. I don't like the idea of multiple laser treatments over a long period - especially not with patchy hair in between. But compared to having to continue to shave, it seems well worth it to me.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Tony Dadá on November 02, 2018, 08:03:44 AM
I would love to have a head free of hair/shadow.
Maybe one day I'm going to have the guts to make this permanently,seems like it's a long process.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 02, 2018, 12:44:32 PM
Chris, if you only have that little bit left, would it be worth it? It's a pain in the butt for us BBC guys that have an entire head to keep smooth! And I have to shave everyday because I like it completely smooth.
If laser removal was low cost; it was painless; and permeant, I would jump on it. I guess it appeals to my lazy side. Plus, one less task to do mornings, etc.

Otherwise, prob not. Using the old Gillette still works fine.  can do it without looking.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on November 03, 2018, 05:28:30 PM
Don’t need it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fRYFMnzQ/076-FC76-B-9-F46-4-D6-E-BB69-2200-A1-F8-AB3-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PCrKM7vS)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Tony Dadá on November 03, 2018, 06:28:20 PM
Don’t need it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fRYFMnzQ/076-FC76-B-9-F46-4-D6-E-BB69-2200-A1-F8-AB3-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PCrKM7vS)

Amazing! Looks like you never had hair.

That's a great beard btw
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 04, 2018, 08:19:21 AM
I would love to have a head free of hair/shadow.
Maybe one day I'm going to have the guts to make this permanently,seems like it's a long process.
the shadow bothers me too. but i think the laser process would really hurt like hell while it's being done.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Tony Dadá on November 04, 2018, 09:23:11 AM
I would love to have a head free of hair/shadow.
Maybe one day I'm going to have the guts to make this permanently,seems like it's a long process.
the shadow bothers me too. but i think the laser process would really hurt like hell while it's being done.
The healing process doesn't sound fun and all those days without shaving make it worst.

I'm going to stay with the razor and foam 😂
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 06, 2018, 09:27:05 AM
I would love to have a head free of hair/shadow.
Maybe one day I'm going to have the guts to make this permanently,seems like it's a long process.
the shadow bothers me too. but i think the laser process would really hurt like hell while it's being done.
The healing process doesn't sound fun and all those days without shaving make it worst.

I'm going to stay with the razor and foam 😂
same here. plus, if I tole my friends I was getting laser hair removal on MY head, they would think it's the funnies joke.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on November 06, 2018, 10:19:01 AM
I won't lie, it hurts.  But only for a few minutes, and then it's a bit sore for a couple of days.  The pros far outweighed the cons for me.  No more severe folliculitis issues, which means no more antibiotics. 

I can get by with a single pass with the grain shave 2 or 3 times a week.  I used to have to shave 3 passes every other day, and my head still wasn't as clean shaven as it gets now. 

The elimination of the shadow was a bonus.  I would never have gotten laser just for that reason, though I know others have.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Tony Dadá on November 06, 2018, 10:47:39 AM
I won't lie, it hurts.  But only for a few minutes, and then it's a bit sore for a couple of days.  The pros far outweighed the cons for me.  No more severe folliculitis issues, which means no more antibiotics. 

I can get by with a single pass with the grain shave 2 or 3 times a week.  I used to have to shave 3 passes every other day, and my head still wasn't as clean shaven as it gets now. 

The elimination of the shadow was a bonus.  I would never have gotten laser just for that reason, though I know others have.

Can you show us a pic? :)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 06, 2018, 01:06:54 PM
I won't lie, it hurts.  But only for a few minutes, and then it's a bit sore for a couple of days.  The pros far outweighed the cons for me.  No more severe folliculitis issues, which means no more antibiotics. 

I can get by with a single pass with the grain shave 2 or 3 times a week.  I used to have to shave 3 passes every other day, and my head still wasn't as clean shaven as it gets now. 

The elimination of the shadow was a bonus.  I would never have gotten laser just for that reason, though I know others have.
wow. interesting. how much natural hair loss did you have to start? Norwood what?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 06, 2018, 09:35:45 PM
CONSULTATION DONE! Can't believe I did this.

I never imagined I would be looking into this but I did.

I had a consultation today at a local clinic that does laser hair removal and a bunch of other treatments, like botox injections, cool sculpting, etc.

The consultation was with a doctor then a specialist who does the actual treatments. The doc looked at my head for like 1 minute and asked me a bunch of questions. The #1 important question was about hair color and any medical conditions. How/when I starting going bald. He said I was typical advanced MPB. (Tell me something I don't know.)

I have/had medium brown hair so I'm a good candidate— not excellent—for hair removal. The lighter the hair color the less effective the treatment. Red hair: forget-about-it. He also said I should start before any more gray, of which I have a little.

Bottom line: cost between $1500 to $2000 USD. 9 treatments of the remaining hair (sides and back, none top). Each treatment 6 weeks apart. Booked until Jan 2019.

Each treatment will produce redness and soreness the day of the treatment. Most guys handle with Advil and a topical treatment only. Infection and scabbing is rare although monitored closely.

It's a big clinic in a rich of my town, Philly Main Line, and they've done dozens of men's heads. 80% success rate where the patient is satisfied with little to NO regrowth. in 20% cases, maintenance treatments are needed at additional cost.

When I made the appt. I didn't say it was for my head but as soon as they saw me the assistant said, 'you're tired of shaving the shadow.' I also told her I had no interest in loosing hair in other areas of my body, chest, etc. She said it's growing in popularity for guys like me, all ages. (I hope that wasn't just pressure to sell me.)

They also offered me contact(s) of 2 other dudes who had the same thing done and are wiling to share their story. Apparently, those guys loved the results and got a discount for telling their story for perspective patients like me. They had pictures and the guys both looked young, late 20s and 30s. So, that made me feel good.

So, WTF do I do? I can swing the money. But I'm afraid of the temporary side-effects of the sessions. And 9 sessions seems like a LOT. That could take all of 2019 before completion. That takes a lot of effort and time.

I just got done shaving my ring tonight and I'm good for a few days before I need it again. Honestly, it was a pain in the ass more than ever. I was imagining a smooth head with no regrown or shadow for life. Damn, that would be amazing.

When I was in college, I was freaking out while loosing hair, and if someone would have told me one day I'll use a laser to rid myself of all of it, I would have said that's f'ing nuts. Yet, here a am giving it serious consideration. Go figure.

Thoughts?









Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Tony Dadá on November 06, 2018, 11:49:14 PM
CONSULTATION DONE! Can't believe I did this.

I never imagined I would be looking into this but I did.

I had a consultation today at a local clinic that does laser hair removal and a bunch of other treatments, like botox injections, cool sculpting, etc.

The consultation was with a doctor then a specialist who does the actual treatments. The doc looked at my head for like 1 minute and asked me a bunch of questions. The #1 important question was about hair color and any medical conditions. How/when I starting going bald. He said I was typical advanced MPB. (Tell me something I don't know.)

I have/had medium brown hair so I'm a good candidate— not excellent—for hair removal. The lighter the hair color the less effective the treatment. Red hair: forget-about-it. He also said I should start before any more gray, of which I have a little.

Bottom line: cost between $1500 to $2000 USD. 9 treatments of the remaining hair (sides and back, none top). Each treatment 6 weeks apart. Booked until Jan 2019.

Each treatment will produce redness and soreness the day of the treatment. Most guys handle with Advil and a topical treatment only. Infection and scabbing is rare although monitored closely.

It's a big clinic in a rich of my town, Philly Main Line, and they've done dozens of men's heads. 80% success rate where the patient is satisfied with little to NO regrowth. in 20% cases, maintenance treatments are needed at additional cost.

When I made the appt. I didn't say it was for my head but as soon as they saw me the assistant said, 'you're tired of shaving the shadow.' I also told her I had no interest in loosing hair in other areas of my body, chest, etc. She said it's growing in popularity for guys like me, all ages. (I hope that wasn't just pressure to sell me.)

They also offered me contact(s) of 2 other dudes who had the same thing done and are wiling to share their story. Apparently, those guys loved the results and got a discount for telling their story for perspective patients like me. They had pictures and the guys both looked young, late 20s and 30s. So, that made me feel good.

So, WTF do I do? I can swing the money. But I'm afraid of the temporary side-effects of the sessions. And 9 sessions seems like a LOT. That could take all of 2019 before completion. That takes a lot of effort and time.

I just got done shaving my ring tonight and I'm good for a few days before I need it again. Honestly, it was a pain in the ass more than ever. I was imagining a smooth head with no regrown or shadow for life. Damn, that would be amazing.

When I was in college, I was freaking out while loosing hair, and if someone would have told me one day I'll use a laser to rid myself of all of it, I would have said that's f'ing nuts. Yet, here a am giving it serious consideration. Go figure.

Thoughts?

Get rid of the donut haha 😎
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on November 07, 2018, 02:12:26 AM
Hey, @chrisphilly123 can you post a picture with the donut? Your scalp already looks fairly clean with no shadow.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: slybeard on November 07, 2018, 08:45:54 AM
You shadow is not really visible in your photos @chrisphilly123 but I realize it may be in person.

If were younger and still had dark hair I would consider it as well.  $2000 really is not bad for 9 treatments.  I do not dislike shaving, but it does get old doing it every day or two.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 07, 2018, 11:39:37 AM
You shadow is not really visible in your photos @chrisphilly123 but I realize it may be in person.

If were younger and still had dark hair I would consider it as well.  $2000 really is not bad for 9 treatments.  I do not dislike shaving, but it does get old doing it every day or two.
I'm not sure how I feel about the 2,000. Still thinking it over. My biggest fear is I have to go for MORE than 9 treatments. Bait and switch.

I don't hate shaving but at times it's a pain in the ass. I'm chronically late for a lotta stuff, so an extra 10 minutes in the morning would be great. Also, it would be great to end the occasional razor bump or nicking. We've all bee there.



 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 07, 2018, 11:44:50 AM
CONSULTATION DONE! Can't believe I did this.

I never imagined I would be looking into this but I did.

I had a consultation today at a local clinic that does laser hair removal and a bunch of other treatments, like botox injections, cool sculpting, etc.

The consultation was with a doctor then a specialist who does the actual treatments. The doc looked at my head for like 1 minute and asked me a bunch of questions. The #1 important question was about hair color and any medical conditions. How/when I starting going bald. He said I was typical advanced MPB. (Tell me something I don't know.)

I have/had medium brown hair so I'm a good candidate— not excellent—for hair removal. The lighter the hair color the less effective the treatment. Red hair: forget-about-it. He also said I should start before any more gray, of which I have a little.

Bottom line: cost between $1500 to $2000 USD. 9 treatments of the remaining hair (sides and back, none top). Each treatment 6 weeks apart. Booked until Jan 2019.

Each treatment will produce redness and soreness the day of the treatment. Most guys handle with Advil and a topical treatment only. Infection and scabbing is rare although monitored closely.

It's a big clinic in a rich of my town, Philly Main Line, and they've done dozens of men's heads. 80% success rate where the patient is satisfied with little to NO regrowth. in 20% cases, maintenance treatments are needed at additional cost.

When I made the appt. I didn't say it was for my head but as soon as they saw me the assistant said, 'you're tired of shaving the shadow.' I also told her I had no interest in loosing hair in other areas of my body, chest, etc. She said it's growing in popularity for guys like me, all ages. (I hope that wasn't just pressure to sell me.)

They also offered me contact(s) of 2 other dudes who had the same thing done and are wiling to share their story. Apparently, those guys loved the results and got a discount for telling their story for perspective patients like me. They had pictures and the guys both looked young, late 20s and 30s. So, that made me feel good.

So, WTF do I do? I can swing the money. But I'm afraid of the temporary side-effects of the sessions. And 9 sessions seems like a LOT. That could take all of 2019 before completion. That takes a lot of effort and time.

I just got done shaving my ring tonight and I'm good for a few days before I need it again. Honestly, it was a pain in the ass more than ever. I was imagining a smooth head with no regrown or shadow for life. Damn, that would be amazing.

When I was in college, I was freaking out while loosing hair, and if someone would have told me one day I'll use a laser to rid myself of all of it, I would have said that's f'ing nuts. Yet, here a am giving it serious consideration. Go figure.

Thoughts?

Get rid of the donut haha 😎
Donut, too kind!  I was dating a chick that called it the toilet seat!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 07, 2018, 12:08:59 PM
Hey, @chrisphilly123 can you post a picture with the donut? Your scalp already looks fairly clean with no shadow.
(https://i.postimg.cc/vHLK6nMB/vat-1-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Tp10zpKM)

me on vacation this year. gf in background more hair than all of us combined. LOL

pretty bad shadow. because of circumstances, hotel, forgot to pack shaving supplies, etc, this mush have been 5 days without a shave. i can count on one hand the number of times I let it grow in many years. honestly, I hate my head with the dreaded horseshoe shadow.

Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Tony Dadá on November 07, 2018, 04:11:46 PM
CONSULTATION DONE! Can't believe I did this.

I never imagined I would be looking into this but I did.

I had a consultation today at a local clinic that does laser hair removal and a bunch of other treatments, like botox injections, cool sculpting, etc.

The consultation was with a doctor then a specialist who does the actual treatments. The doc looked at my head for like 1 minute and asked me a bunch of questions. The #1 important question was about hair color and any medical conditions. How/when I starting going bald. He said I was typical advanced MPB. (Tell me something I don't know.)

I have/had medium brown hair so I'm a good candidate— not excellent—for hair removal. The lighter the hair color the less effective the treatment. Red hair: forget-about-it. He also said I should start before any more gray, of which I have a little.

Bottom line: cost between $1500 to $2000 USD. 9 treatments of the remaining hair (sides and back, none top). Each treatment 6 weeks apart. Booked until Jan 2019.

Each treatment will produce redness and soreness the day of the treatment. Most guys handle with Advil and a topical treatment only. Infection and scabbing is rare although monitored closely.

It's a big clinic in a rich of my town, Philly Main Line, and they've done dozens of men's heads. 80% success rate where the patient is satisfied with little to NO regrowth. in 20% cases, maintenance treatments are needed at additional cost.

When I made the appt. I didn't say it was for my head but as soon as they saw me the assistant said, 'you're tired of shaving the shadow.' I also told her I had no interest in loosing hair in other areas of my body, chest, etc. She said it's growing in popularity for guys like me, all ages. (I hope that wasn't just pressure to sell me.)

They also offered me contact(s) of 2 other dudes who had the same thing done and are wiling to share their story. Apparently, those guys loved the results and got a discount for telling their story for perspective patients like me. They had pictures and the guys both looked young, late 20s and 30s. So, that made me feel good.

So, WTF do I do? I can swing the money. But I'm afraid of the temporary side-effects of the sessions. And 9 sessions seems like a LOT. That could take all of 2019 before completion. That takes a lot of effort and time.

I just got done shaving my ring tonight and I'm good for a few days before I need it again. Honestly, it was a pain in the ass more than ever. I was imagining a smooth head with no regrown or shadow for life. Damn, that would be amazing.

When I was in college, I was freaking out while loosing hair, and if someone would have told me one day I'll use a laser to rid myself of all of it, I would have said that's f'ing nuts. Yet, here a am giving it serious consideration. Go figure.

Thoughts?

Get rid of the donut haha 😎
Donut, too kind!  I was dating a chick that called it the toilet seat!


Hahahahahahaha,that's fucking cleaver.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Tony Dadá on November 07, 2018, 04:13:47 PM
Hey, @chrisphilly123 can you post a picture with the donut? Your scalp already looks fairly clean with no shadow.
(https://i.postimg.cc/vHLK6nMB/vat-1-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Tp10zpKM)

me on vacation this year. gf in background more hair than all of us combined. LOL

pretty bad shadow. because of circumstances, hotel, forgot to pack shaving supplies, etc, this mush have been 5 days without a shave. i can count on one hand the number of times I let it grow in many years. honestly, I hate my head with the dreaded horseshoe shadow.

Who's the long-haired guy? 😂 That's a lot of hair Chris
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 07, 2018, 04:43:56 PM
Hey, @chrisphilly123 can you post a picture with the donut? Your scalp already looks fairly clean with no shadow.
(https://i.postimg.cc/vHLK6nMB/vat-1-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Tp10zpKM)

me on vacation this year. gf in background more hair than all of us combined. LOL

pretty bad shadow. because of circumstances, hotel, forgot to pack shaving supplies, etc, this mush have been 5 days without a shave. i can count on one hand the number of times I let it grow in many years. honestly, I hate my head with the dreaded horseshoe shadow.

Who's the long-haired guy? 😂 That's a lot of hair Chris
Don't worry; that doesn't happen often. It came off fast once I got to proper hot water and a fresh Gillette.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Tony Dadá on November 07, 2018, 06:19:33 PM
Hey, @chrisphilly123 can you post a picture with the donut? Your scalp already looks fairly clean with no shadow.
(https://i.postimg.cc/vHLK6nMB/vat-1-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Tp10zpKM)

me on vacation this year. gf in background more hair than all of us combined. LOL

pretty bad shadow. because of circumstances, hotel, forgot to pack shaving supplies, etc, this mush have been 5 days without a shave. i can count on one hand the number of times I let it grow in many years. honestly, I hate my head with the dreaded horseshoe shadow.

Who's the long-haired guy? 😂 That's a lot of hair Chris
Don't worry; that doesn't happen often. It came off fast once I got to proper hot water and a fresh Gillette.

Nothing can beat the feeling of a freshly shaved head.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on November 07, 2018, 09:34:53 PM
Nine sessions may sound like a lot but remember at any given time a certain amount of your hair is in the resting phase. The laser only removes what’s actively growing so you need to have several sessions over an extended period of time in order to get it all.

Afrtr nine sessions, most of your hair will probably be gone, but it is difficult to remove 100% of it so they will probably try to talk you into some touch-up sessions. At that post you may be satisfied with the greatly reduced amount of hair.  Probably won’t need to shave as frequently so you may decide to stop at that point.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 08, 2018, 07:55:05 AM
Nine sessions may sound like a lot but remember at any given time a certain amount of your hair is in the resting phase. The laser only removes what’s actively growing so you need to have several sessions over an extended period of time in order to get it all.

Afrtr nine sessions, most of your hair will probably be gone, but it is difficult to remove 100% of it so they will probably try to talk you into some touch-up sessions. At that post you may be satisfied with the greatly reduced amount of hair.  Probably won’t need to shave as frequently so you may decide to stop at that point.
True that. I imagined the process would cost over 1,000. So, $2000, or more, is a lot. The two things that have me wavering, it it will take about a YEAR to complete all the sessions, which is much longer than I expected. That, plus I don't want my head looking fried after the session.

That all said, the result of being permanently no fringe or shadow is alluring me.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on November 08, 2018, 08:12:58 AM
Bear in mind that your shadow will become less visible as your hair gets greyer.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 08, 2018, 08:16:32 AM
Bear in mind that your shadow will become less visible as your hair gets greyer.
true. how often do you shave yours?

btw, I'm starting to see gray in my beard, which I usually trim super short, stubble length.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on November 08, 2018, 09:48:16 AM
Hey, @chrisphilly123 can you post a picture with the donut? Your scalp already looks fairly clean with no shadow.
(https://i.postimg.cc/vHLK6nMB/vat-1-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Tp10zpKM)

me on vacation this year. gf in background more hair than all of us combined. LOL

pretty bad shadow. because of circumstances, hotel, forgot to pack shaving supplies, etc, this mush have been 5 days without a shave. i can count on one hand the number of times I let it grow in many years. honestly, I hate my head with the dreaded horseshoe shadow.

Who's the long-haired guy? 😂 That's a lot of hair Chris
Don't worry; that doesn't happen often. It came off fast once I got to proper hot water and a fresh Gillette.

Nothing can beat the feeling of a freshly shaved head.

If I knew better, you could pass for Pitbull in that photo.....No seriously, thanks for the picture, you do a nice job shaving the scalp. If you go through with the lasering, I'd start as soon as possible before your hair gets too gray and the lasering may not be as effective. FWIW, I went the reverse route and had a scalp tattoo to blend with my shadow.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: slybeard on November 08, 2018, 12:33:14 PM
Bear in mind that your shadow will become less visible as your hair gets greyer.
true. how often do you shave yours?

btw, I'm starting to see gray in my beard, which I usually trim super short, stubble length.

I have very little showing at 2 days.  At 3 days, depending on lighting, the white hairs become visible.  It looks like white specs with bright lights.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 09, 2018, 07:04:36 AM
Bear in mind that your shadow will become less visible as your hair gets greyer.
true. how often do you shave yours?

btw, I'm starting to see gray in my beard, which I usually trim super short, stubble length.

I have very little showing at 2 days.  At 3 days, depending on lighting, the white hairs become visible.  It looks like white specs with bright lights.
i think more grey is in my future soon. i think it will bother more in the beard. such is life.  LOL
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 09, 2018, 07:17:10 AM
Hey, @chrisphilly123 can you post a picture with the donut? Your scalp already looks fairly clean with no shadow.
(https://i.postimg.cc/vHLK6nMB/vat-1-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Tp10zpKM)

me on vacation this year. gf in background more hair than all of us combined. LOL

pretty bad shadow. because of circumstances, hotel, forgot to pack shaving supplies, etc, this mush have been 5 days without a shave. i can count on one hand the number of times I let it grow in many years. honestly, I hate my head with the dreaded horseshoe shadow.

Who's the long-haired guy? 😂 That's a lot of hair Chris
Don't worry; that doesn't happen often. It came off fast once I got to proper hot water and a fresh Gillette.

Nothing can beat the feeling of a freshly shaved head.

If I knew better, you could pass for Pitbull in that photo.....No seriously, thanks for the picture, you do a nice job shaving the scalp. If you go through with the lasering, I'd start as soon as possible before your hair gets too gray and the lasering may not be as effective. FWIW, I went the reverse route and had a scalp tattoo to blend with my shadow.
Pitbull.  LOL.  Unlike him, I have no talent. But would love to have his $$$.

You got me thinking, all bald white guys look alike!  Hahahaha!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on November 10, 2018, 08:37:09 AM
I won't lie, it hurts.  But only for a few minutes, and then it's a bit sore for a couple of days.  The pros far outweighed the cons for me.  No more severe folliculitis issues, which means no more antibiotics. 

I can get by with a single pass with the grain shave 2 or 3 times a week.  I used to have to shave 3 passes every other day, and my head still wasn't as clean shaven as it gets now. 

The elimination of the shadow was a bonus.  I would never have gotten laser just for that reason, though I know others have.
wow. interesting. how much natural hair loss did you have to start? Norwood what?

Sides and back had no loss at all, it was just receding from the front.  I still had about 2/3 on top, though most of that had gotten thin.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on November 10, 2018, 08:38:30 AM
I won't lie, it hurts.  But only for a few minutes, and then it's a bit sore for a couple of days.  The pros far outweighed the cons for me.  No more severe folliculitis issues, which means no more antibiotics. 

I can get by with a single pass with the grain shave 2 or 3 times a week.  I used to have to shave 3 passes every other day, and my head still wasn't as clean shaven as it gets now. 

The elimination of the shadow was a bonus.  I would never have gotten laser just for that reason, though I know others have.

Can you show us a pic? :)

I just looked, and I don't have any that show the sides or the back, which are the important parts. 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on November 11, 2018, 09:37:14 PM
Bear in mind that your shadow will become less visible as your hair gets greyer.
true. how often do you shave yours?



@chrisphilly123,  every day.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 12, 2018, 03:36:18 PM
Bear in mind that your shadow will become less visible as your hair gets greyer.
true. how often do you shave yours?



@chrisphilly123,  every day.
cool. i should, too. but it's a struggle for me to get out of the house in the morning. i gotta budget my time better.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: MacGregor on November 16, 2018, 02:12:38 PM
I have been a headshaver for many years now and feel quite comfortable with the "Mr. Clean" look.  After much research, I have finally decided I will go in for laser hair removal treatments.  I like the shiny dome and will make it my permanent look.  I'll update you all on how the process works for me to get my head hair permanently removed by laser.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 16, 2018, 03:19:26 PM
I have been a headshaver for many years now and feel quite comfortable with the "Mr. Clean" look.  After much research, I have finally decided I will go in for laser hair removal treatments.  I like the shiny dome and will make it my permanent look.  I'll update you all on how the process works for me to get my head hair permanently removed by laser.
can't wait to hear your experience/results. btw, it could take you a year to complete, says the place I went to for my consult.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on November 16, 2018, 03:21:25 PM
I have been a headshaver for many years now and feel quite comfortable with the "Mr. Clean" look.  After much research, I have finally decided I will go in for laser hair removal treatments.  I like the shiny dome and will make it my permanent look.  I'll update you all on how the process works for me to get my head hair permanently removed by laser.

Good luck! I had laser treatments and am happy with the results.  PM with any questions.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: MacGregor on November 16, 2018, 03:47:30 PM
ChrisPhilly, that's what I'm planning on, about a 1-year process to get most of my head hair permanently removed from my dome.  Several sessions...spaced about 6 weeks apart is what they advised.

Laser Man, thanks for the support! Looks like it was a big success for you!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 17, 2018, 02:23:44 PM
ChrisPhilly, that's what I'm planning on, about a 1-year process to get most of my head hair permanently removed from my dome.  Several sessions...spaced about 6 weeks apart is what they advised.

Laser Man, thanks for the support! Looks like it was a big success for you!
how were the treatments: pain level, redness, etc, the day of and after treatment? any scabbing, scars?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on November 17, 2018, 02:52:09 PM
Here's my experience:

Pain: I used a numbing cream for the first three sessions only.  The pain is like being stung with a rubber band over and over.  The numbing cream dulls it, but I could still feel it.  As the dark hairs disappeared with treatments,, the pain diminished (it's the dark pigment that absorbs the laser's energy)

Redness: Right after the treatment, my scalp felt tight and was a light pink - like a mild sunburn.  In my case, the color was gone by the next morning and the tightness went away after about 48 hours.  I should note that I always did my treatments at the end of the day (5:00 or 5:30 PM) so i could go directly home afterwards.

Scabbing / scars:  I had none.  I think if you get scars and scabbing the laser is too powerful.

Aftereffects: for several days after treatment, the dark hairs on my head were very dark and very rough, much rougher than normal stubble.  It was as if the hairs had melted into little bumps.  I worried about going to work with the darker shadow, but if anyone noticed, they didn't say anything.  I was told not to shave for three days after each treatment.  When I did resume shaving, the first couple days took longer and I could not get a smooth shave.   

Shedding: After the first treatment, I did not see much progress for a several days.  About a week afterwards, I suddenly realized that nearly all the dark hair was gone from the sides and top - I no longer had any hairline there.  In the back I had two vertical strips of dark , each about 1" by 3".  These strips diminished in size with each treatment and were gone after the fourth treatment.  The hair on the top and sides never returned after the first treatment, so in my case, I passed the point of no return after one treatment.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: MacGregor on November 18, 2018, 09:49:25 PM
Laser Man, thank you for sharing your experience of going through laser scalp hair removal.  It has certainly given me more insight into what to expect as I begin the process.  My first session is on December 7th.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on November 19, 2018, 05:01:12 PM
Here's my experience:

Pain: I used a numbing cream for the first three sessions only.  The pain is like being stung with a rubber band over and over.  The numbing cream dulls it, but I could still feel it.  As the dark hairs disappeared with treatments,, the pain diminished (it's the dark pigment that absorbs the laser's energy)

Redness: Right after the treatment, my scalp felt tight and was a light pink - like a mild sunburn.  In my case, the color was gone by the next morning and the tightness went away after about 48 hours.  I should note that I always did my treatments at the end of the day (5:00 or 5:30 PM) so i could go directly home afterwards.

Scabbing / scars:  I had none.  I think if you get scars and scabbing the laser is too powerful.

Aftereffects: for several days after treatment, the dark hairs on my head were very dark and very rough, much rougher than normal stubble.  It was as if the hairs had melted into little bumps.  I worried about going to work with the darker shadow, but if anyone noticed, they didn't say anything.  I was told not to shave for three days after each treatment.  When I did resume shaving, the first couple days took longer and I could not get a smooth shave.   

Shedding: After the first treatment, I did not see much progress for a several days.  About a week afterwards, I suddenly realized that nearly all the dark hair was gone from the sides and top - I no longer had any hairline there.  In the back I had two vertical strips of dark , each about 1" by 3".  These strips diminished in size with each treatment and were gone after the fourth treatment.  The hair on the top and sides never returned after the first treatment, so in my case, I passed the point of no return after one treatment.
AWESOME INFO! !   Thanks thanks thanks!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: MacGregor on November 30, 2018, 04:15:57 PM
Unlike most guys who get this done, I'm not doing my entire head at once, instead I've instructed them to just do the top first and work down after the top is completed.  This way I don't have to deal with patches all over the place at first.  I think for me, it needs to be done as you would naturally bald from the crown of the head, downward...
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: reddog on November 30, 2018, 05:18:45 PM
Good luck on your path to permanent baldness! I think I would be a little nervous knowing I would never have hair again. I guess you're sure about it though. I don't think a completely bald head will go out of style, it's getting more popular than ever.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: gwsmallwood on November 30, 2018, 05:48:28 PM
Unlike most guys who get this done, I'm not doing my entire head at once, instead I've instructed them to just do the top first and work down after the top is completed.  This way I don't have to deal with patches all over the place at first.  I think for me, it needs to be done as you would naturally bald from the crown of the head, downward...

I would think it would just end up taking longer that way (and cost more).  The top of my head was pretty much done after a single session anyway.  I think that's usually the case.  You're going to get some patchiness on the back and sides anyway, doesn't matter if you do the top at the same time or not.  It's not that big of a deal, you just shave a bit more often for a couple of weeks until you can get in for a follow up / touch up.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on December 02, 2018, 09:29:46 AM
MacGregor,

I considered doing it the way you are planning to because I had concerns about having dark patches (and having to answer questions from people at work).  I also thought that if I chickened out on treatments or had a change of heart, I could live with a fringe / horseshoe.  One of the guys who used to post on this site did his treatments in stages and was pleased with the way it mimicked nature.

When I went for my first treatment, the technician was willing to go in stages starting with the top.  He mentioned that the hair on top would go away pretty quickly.  I mulled it over for a few minutes, then decided to go fo the full scalp treatment.  As I mentioned in one of my posts, about ten days after the first treatment, all the dark hair on the top and sides was completely gone and i had only two dark spots in back. At that point, I was fully committed.

gwsmallwood is right - it will take longer and may cost more to go in stages.  However, it does give you the opportunity to stop if you want and still maintain a natural look of MPB.

Good luck 
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sasha1 on January 23, 2019, 06:23:37 AM
MY PROGRESS
i started my sessions october 2016. since then i have more than 10 sessions (dont count them no more) in different clinic, on different lasers with different settings.

Equipment, i had used:

- Deka Syncro FT (Nd:YAG)
- Candela GentleLase (Alexandrite)
- Candela GentleMax (Alexandrite)
- LightSheer DUET (Diode)
- AnchorFree 808-M (Diode)

Settings:

- the Spot Size was 10mm or 12mm. (no clinic offered bigger size, even if I asked for it and it was the equipment option)
- the Power i asked to be setted as big as possible.  usually 30-40 J/cm2.
- if it possible i asked to set Pulse Duration more than 20ms
- made sessions with 1 month or 2 month breaks.

2 month passed after last session, i still dont see significant permanent results, . Yes, the hair density reduced a little, there are some clean spots, and the hair are thin now and grows slowly. But I m sure (as it was before), they will grow back and month by month they will get back to almost initial thickness, density and growth rate.

I see there are guys here who had succeed in getting rid of their hair. That s the reason i m still doing laser sessions and searching for information that will help me.

Any advices for me, guys? Maybe someone, who succeed in their laser treatment, can tell me what laser and settings their clininc used for their heads? Please, i am almost desperated and ready to give up.

I uploaded for you photos of progress. Last session was 2 months ago. So i even cant say if results wont get worse after another 2-3 month without laser treatment.

REGULAR PHOTOS (CLICK TO ENLARGE)

(https://i.postimg.cc/02qLDksq/P1100642.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t72SHHJr)

(https://i.postimg.cc/2jPBxtcY/P1100644.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t7NTqBGv)

(https://i.postimg.cc/4NmBYjKT/P1100645.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vcwWjqLP)

SOME CLOSE-UPS (CLICK TO ENLARGE)

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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on January 23, 2019, 07:10:26 AM
MY PROGRESS
i started my sessions october 2016. since then i have more than 10 sessions (dont count them no more) in different clinic, on different lasers with different settings.

Equipment, i had used:

- Deka Syncro FT (Nd:YAG)
- Candela GentleLase (Alexandrite)
- Candela GentleMax (Alexandrite)
- LightSheer DUET (Diode)
- AnchorFree 808-M (Diode)

Settings:

- the Spot Size was 10mm or 12mm. (no clinic offered bigger size, even if I asked for it and it was the equipment option)
- the Power i asked to be setted as big as possible.  usually 30-40 J/cm2.
- if it possible i asked to set Pulse Duration more than 20ms
- made sessions with 1 month or 2 month breaks.

2 month passed after last session, i still dont see significant permanent results, . Yes, the hair density reduced a little, there are some clean spots, and the hair are thin now and grows slowly. But I m sure (as it was before), they will grow back and month by month they will get back to almost initial thickness, density and growth rate.

I see there are guys here who had succeed in getting rid of their hair. That s the reason i m still doing laser sessions and searching for information that will help me.

Any advices for me, guys? Maybe someone, who succeed in their laser treatment, can tell me what laser and settings their clininc used for their heads? Please, i am almost desperated and ready to give up.

I uploaded for you photos of progress. Last session was 2 months ago. So i even cant say if results wont get worse after another 2-3 month without laser treatment.


SOME CLOSE-UPS (CLICK TO ENLARGE)

Wow. Thanks for sharing your experience. Good luck whether or not you decide to continue. (I sense your frustration.)

A few questions:

(1) Have you tracked how much money you spent on all your sessions?
(2) If you fresh shave today, how long before you see/feel any stubble growing back?
(3) How are you judging the density now and when you started?
(4) Where do you fall on the Norwood MPB scale?



Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sasha1 on January 24, 2019, 03:19:27 AM
Wow. Thanks for sharing your experience. Good luck whether or not you decide to continue. (I sense your frustration.)

A few questions:

(1) Have you tracked how much money you spent on all your sessions?
(2) If you fresh shave today, how long before you see/feel any stubble growing back?
(3) How are you judging the density now and when you started?
(4) Where do you fall on the Norwood MPB scale?

1) First of all, I live in Russia. One sessions for whole head costs about a 100$ here. I guess I made about 10-12 sessions already.

2) I am very meticulous about that moment, so even a 0.5mm hair already annoy me. I guess it takes 1-2 days for stubble to grow back. On the photos I have no shave for 3 days (yes, as I said they are growing slow for now, only 2 month break from last session).

3) I make photos of progress since the day of the first session. I mean, i ve already had the similar situation : you see almost no shade (cause hair are very weak, so even skin around them is pink, not gray), the density of hair that broke through skin is lower. But it takes some month for more hairs breaks through skin, and day by day density is going to initial state, the skin becomes gray etc.

4) I had about 4 Norwood. And was very sure in my decision. And i am still. Definetly. If I will succeed in treatment, I will be very satisfied with my clean aesthetically beautiful head.

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For now, I am really considering to take another 2-3 month break to make some conclusion about the REAL permanent results (not just the shock state of scalp hair).

But.. I guess that s what I will do:

1. I ll wait another month to be sure all the hairs are in active growing phase already (necessary condition of follicle nest termination)

2. Find the clinic with Alexandrite laser equipment with 16-20mm spot size (bigger size - deeper laser penetration) with power setted to 40+ J/cm2 at the same time. Follicles located very deep in scalp skin - 5-6 mm, twice deeper than any other skin area on the human body. Really hard for laser to reach, I think (medical papers i found claims the same)

3. Take 5-6 month break if the result will be satisfying, to prove it with the time.

I dont know what to do else. Please, dont say "you should consult with your doctor". Here, no "specialist" even know very basic things about laser epilation and conditions for successful laser treatment.

Still waiting for some advices. Thanks for all, guys.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sasha1 on January 31, 2019, 10:46:04 AM
should I have fresh shaved smooth skin or 1-2mm long hair, when I do session on Alexandrite laser?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on January 31, 2019, 12:42:35 PM
should I have fresh shaved smooth skin or 1-2mm long hair, when I doing session on Alexandrite laser?
I have no idea although I appreciate the knowlege-base that you're contributing.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sasha1 on February 14, 2019, 02:01:53 AM
just made another laser session few days ago on the equipment i havent tried before.

equipment : Cynosure Elite+ (Alexandrite)

settings : 15 mm spot size, 30 J/cm2 fluence (maximum on this spot size), 25 ms pulse duration

nothing unusual, 2 days of skin redness, painful treatment.

lets see in a few monthes, if it will be effective for me.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: sasha1 on February 18, 2019, 05:18:30 AM
Biological and clinical aspects in laser hair removal (very comprehensive publication about laser hair removal)

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8503999_Biological_and_clinical_aspects_in_laser_hair_removal

Simulation of Heat Distribution and Thermal Damage Patterns of Diode Hair-Removal Lasers: An Applicable Method for Optimizing Treatment Parameters (about the extended theory of selective photothermolysis and choosing a pulse duration based on the concept of the thermal damage time (TDT), not thermal relaxation time (TRT))

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/pho.2010.2895

next time i ll try both original and extended theory of selective photothermolysis:

will try half area with pulse width based on TRT - 10ms
and half area with pulse width based on TDT - 300-400ms

there is a lot of interesting information in these publications. if you want to understand deeper the aspects of laser hair removal.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Semi-Sly on February 22, 2019, 08:45:34 AM
Wow, great article. So it looks like the Diode laser is a good one for brown and black scalp hair and the IPL is the best for lighter colored scalp hair.  And it looks like monthly treatments for scalp hair is the best way to go for permanent removal.

Sure wish I would have done it before my hair went gray!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: AaronN on October 03, 2019, 07:51:54 PM
My hair went really thin starting around 13 due to some skin issues. It wasn't until I was 23 that I went for the clippers. I switched to razors a few years after that and have been mostly bald since - I do have a penchant for getting lazy and letting my hair grow for a week or two at a time. I go to a barber to get cleaned up - no mess for me to deal with.

I jokingly said to my barber three months ago that he's going to be in for a surprise when once day I get laser hair removal, thinking it's not a done thing for heads. He surprised me by telling me about other clients he has had do it and encouraged me to look into it.

That led me to Google, which lead me here. Let me thank you all for sharing your stories and adventures in laser hair removal for your heads. Given that I'm in my mid-30s and have two visible stray grays now, I figured it was now or never.

I made the jump today.

Going in without numbing cream was a huge mistake - I figured I could take it. I was wrong. They sold me some and I came back a bit later ready to go with the cream applied.

I've had my back neck and total scalp treated. With the cream applied it was a little painful still, but more in a grit and bear it kind of way.

I could not find anyone in my region that does scalps, so I'm driving about 2.5 hours each way to the place I chose. They were really nice about me coming back today, dealing with the pain, and helping throughout the scheduling through to purchase process. I have dark hair and relatively pale skin and they have an Alexandrite laser, so I'm thinking this will work out well.

I'm excited to see how things turn out. Thanks again to everyone for their encouraging stories and conversations.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Semi-Sly on October 08, 2019, 10:00:56 PM
keep us posted and please post photos.

 where are you going to get this done and how much are they charging per session ?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on October 15, 2019, 01:06:06 PM
AaronN,

Good luck.  I've done laser treatments and been happy with the results, so PM me if you have any questions
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: chrisphilly123 on October 19, 2019, 05:13:01 PM
My hair went really thin starting around 13 due to some skin issues. It wasn't until I was 23 that I went for the . I switched to razors a few years after that and have been mostly bald since - I do have a penchant for getting lazy and letting my hair grow for a week or two at a time. I go to a barber to get cleaned up - no mess for me to deal with.

I jokingly said to my barber three months ago that he's going to be in for a surprise when once day I get laser hair removal, thinking it's not a done thing for heads. He surprised me by telling me about other clients he has had do it and encouraged me to look into it.

That led me to Google, which lead me here. Let me thank you all for sharing your stories and adventures in laser hair removal for your heads. Given that I'm in my mid-30s and have two visible stray grays now, I figured it was now or never.

I made the jump today.

Going in without numbing cream was a huge mistake - I figured I could take it. I was wrong. They sold me some and I came back a bit later ready to go with the cream applied.

I've had my back neck and total scalp treated. With the cream applied it was a little painful still, but more in a grit and bear it kind of way.

I could not find anyone in my region that does scalps, so I'm driving about 2.5 hours each way to the place I chose. They were really nice about me coming back today, dealing with the pain, and helping throughout the scheduling through to purchase process. I have dark hair and relatively pale skin and they have an Alexandrite laser, so I'm thinking this will work out well.

I'm excited to see how things turn out. Thanks again to everyone for their encouraging stories and conversations.
I would LOVE to hear how this works out for you longterm. I always wished I had DARK hair. Even now that would be an advantage for this.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: coconut on September 27, 2021, 01:53:13 AM
I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation on clinic in Chicago area. I skimmed through about 20 pages of reply and haven't found any recommendations. Thanks.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: ANASFIL on October 05, 2021, 03:14:51 AM
Had my first laser treatment yesterday. I have a recheck in 10 days.

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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: reddog on October 05, 2021, 08:27:45 AM
@ANASFIL , wow, it takes alot of guts for someone with such a thick head of hair to permanently go bald! So far, it looks awesome. I hope you enjoy it.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: slybeard on October 05, 2021, 09:15:56 AM
Looks great.  How was the pain level when they were doing it?  Any pain afterward?  Did they give you an indication of how many treatments may be needed to achieve permanent results?

I do not think I would have done it when I had a full head of hair.  I would consider it now since I am bald on top, if there was a treatment that would work on gray and white hair.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: ANASFIL on October 05, 2021, 11:23:23 AM
Looks great.  How was the pain level when they were doing it?  Any pain afterward?  Did they give you an indication of how many treatments may be needed to achieve permanent results?

I do not think I would have done it when I had a full head of hair.  I would consider it now since I am bald on top, if there was a treatment that would work on gray and white hair.

The pain level was tolerable, and it calmed down just a few minutes after it was completed. The esthetician, couldn't give me an exact number of treatments it would take. Probably 9 to 10 and some sessions with electolysis for the white hair.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: ANASFIL on October 05, 2021, 11:25:46 AM
@ANASFIL , wow, it takes alot of guts for someone with such a thick head of hair to permanently go bald! So far, it looks awesome. I hope you enjoy it.
I just hope I took the right decision and that I wouldn't regret it later. In any case, there is no turning back now. We will see how it will go. I hope that I will have good results.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: slybeard on October 05, 2021, 01:58:41 PM
That is the catch 22.  Decide to go permanently bald while you still have full hair, or wait for male pattern baldness to kick in and it will likely be too gray for the laser to work.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razor X on October 09, 2021, 09:26:13 AM
Looks great.  How was the pain level when they were doing it?  Any pain afterward?  Did they give you an indication of how many treatments may be needed to achieve permanent results?

I do not think I would have done it when I had a full head of hair.  I would consider it now since I am bald on top, if there was a treatment that would work on gray and white hair.

The pain level was tolerable, and it calmed down just a few minutes after it was completed. The esthetician, couldn't give me an exact number of treatments it would take. Probably 9 to 10 and some sessions with electolysis for the white hair.

How much hair were you starting with?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: ANASFIL on October 11, 2021, 11:59:04 AM


How much hair were you starting with?




Ι had a full head of hair, that's why it was kind of risky decision
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Runningman586 on October 11, 2021, 12:18:00 PM
@ANASFIL are you seeing any result yet from that initial hair removal session?
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: ANASFIL on October 11, 2021, 12:21:14 PM
@ANASFIL are you seeing any result yet from that initial hair removal session?

It has been just one week, but have already seen some results. the esthetician said, I have to wait for 15 days till I am going back for a re-check. So I am waiting, as according to hair it needs at least 15 days for the burned part to come out.
We will see, I will keep you posted
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Laser Man on October 13, 2021, 11:07:16 AM
You should start to see results in about ten days as the hair follicles begin to fall out.

It's a big step to opt for laser treatments when you have a full head of hair.  One important aspect of lasers is that the hair does not fall out in a uniform fashion.  You might find that after only one treatment, you have passed "the point of no return" if your hair falls out in patches.  After several laser sessions, your scalp will have a more uniform appearance.

I have done laser treatments, so feel free to PM me with any questions.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Razorhead on October 14, 2021, 04:40:21 AM
@ANASFIL good luck to you on your treatments. As much as I love the process of shaving, it is time consuming. But the idea of waking up in the morning with an instant smooth dome is in intriguing. I think my hair is too grey for laser treatments. But good luck to you. Update us in your progress.
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: ANASFIL on October 15, 2021, 02:09:41 AM
Thank you all for the encourangement.
I will keep you posted on my progress
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: Sir Harry on October 20, 2021, 09:13:25 AM
It looks great, ANASFIL! Best of luck the rest of the way!
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: BaldOrchidgrower on October 23, 2021, 08:01:03 PM
In my country, I would like to find clinics Laser Hair Removal on Scalp, but I can´t. There are laser epilation only for other parts of the body.
 I hope in the future, the smooth scalps become on fashion here  in my region and have available the Laser Hair Removal on Scalp in some clinics. I would schedule a visit to one clinic for scalp epilation without doubts, I have envy with those guys who visited that kind of clinics and are totally bald forever.

 While the Laser Hair Removal on Scalp don´t come to my country, I don´t want to wait too long in my life and embrace and enjoy too much my bald look using the technique of sugar wax plus ointments to weak and kill the hair follicles. After one year and seven months a great percentage of my full hair on scalp is gone.

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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: ANASFIL on November 03, 2021, 12:05:48 PM
Two weeks after my second session, which by the esthetician was called "re-check" and wasn't charged, the results are significantly better. Right now I can go 2 or 3 days without shaving and won't be noticed. The dark hair apart from the back, "the donor aria" seems that they vanished. I am happy so far, I am going for my 3rd session in a few days.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y9JvJwDx/20211102-072544.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0M05whs6)
Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: ANASFIL on November 03, 2021, 12:09:23 PM
Two weeks after my second session, which by the esthetician was called "re-check" and wasn't charged, the results are significantly better. Right now I can go 2 or 3 days without shaving and won't be noticed. The dark hair apart from the back, "the donor aria" seems that they vanished. I am happy so far, I am going for my 3rd session in a few days.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y9JvJwDx/20211102-072544.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0M05whs6)
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Title: Re: Laser hair removal on your scalp
Post by: slybeard on November 03, 2021, 02:16:51 PM
Your dark shadow seems to have been reduced.  I am glad it has been successful for you so far.