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Head Shaving, Grooming & Care => Head Shaving => Topic started by: SonOfKrypton on June 10, 2008, 08:44:54 PM
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After using it with my headblade (with a Gilette Sensor 2 blade) for a couple days now, I am now fairly certain that it degrades blades faster than using Headblade Headslick. My theory as to why this is so is that Shave Secret is an oil. Oils and water are immiscible in one another. You can clean out most of the gunk in the blade after using Shave Secret, but not as much as you can after using Headslick (which is, for the better part, water soluble). This shave secret residue, combined with leftover residue from your skin oils and such, leads to blade degradation a lot faster than normal. Anyone else notice this?
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I've noticed this also, that's why I prefer to use Pacific Shaving Oil.
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I've had the opposite experience. I've been using the Shave Secret for a few months now. What I've found is that I have to give the razor a really good rinse to de-gunk and then I used a technique that somebody else on the forum wrote about (Was it Warhawk? I think so.) which involves spraying the blades with rubbing alcohol between passes. It seems that if there is any oil from the SS left on the blades that the alcohol kills any bacteria that might be residing in it. I was told once that the bacteria is what actually causes damage to the blades. I have had the same HB Triple in my Sport for the last 2.5-3 weeks shaving every other day. So that's 10 or 11 complete shaves without feeling the need to change carts. I think the alky is the secret.
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I've had the opposite experience. I've been using the Shave Secret for a few months now. What I've found is that I have to give the razor a really good rinse to de-gunk and then I used a technique that somebody else on the forum wrote about (Was it Warhawk? I think so.) which involves spraying the blades with rubbing alcohol between passes. It seems that if there is any oil from the SS left on the blades that the alcohol kills any bacteria that might be residing in it. I was told once that the bacteria is what actually causes damage to the blades. I have had the same HB Triple in my Sport for the last 2.5-3 weeks shaving every other day. So that's 10 or 11 complete shaves without feeling the need to change carts. I think the alky is the secret.
hey buddha: yep...it's me that mentioned about the rubbing alcohol. U guys need 2 try it out. it decreases irritation & increases the life of your razors. O0
WARHAWK O0
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While i agree that the oil does gum up the razors a bit,i still get 5-7 shaves out of each Bic Sensor razor.Thats pretty good for both my face and scalp. And a 6pk of razors at Walgreens sets me back $3.99.So i figure $5 a month for razors and headslick,etc.Not too shabby.
I'm seriously considering the Panasonic 8077 Linear shaver though.After watching that demo of it,i would like to try it out.
Jim
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While i agree that the oil does gum up the razors a bit,i still get 5-7 shaves out of each Bic Sensor razor.Thats pretty good for both my face and scalp. And a 6pk of razors at Walgreens sets me back $3.99.So i figure $5 a month for razors and headslick,etc.Not too shabby.
I'm seriously considering the Panasonic 8077 Linear shaver though.After watching that demo of it,i would like to try it out.
Jim
Jim,
In have used that Panasonic and the techniques used in that video with the oil and everything. It sux! It gave me hella razor burn and irritation. My Braun 360 complete is way more gentle and gives 0 irritation. That Panasonic has a motor that runs so dang fast. It really chewed my skin up.
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Thanks for the info Nick.I posted another thread asking others for their results as well.
Jim
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I've noticed this also, that's why I prefer to use Pacific Shaving Oil.
Hey Tyler, does this oil have any fragrance?
Red
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I've noticed this also, that's why I prefer to use Pacific Shaving Oil.
Hey Tyler, does this oil have any fragrance?
Red
It's a very light citrus smell.
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I use Shave Secret on the road--small easy to pack, and baby oil at home--I use more but then very cheap. I've never had a "clogging" problem, and with the alcohol spritz idea that Warhawk brought to the table, it gives a great lasting shave.
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I've noticed this also, that's why I prefer to use Pacific Shaving Oil.
I received the bottle of Pacific Shaving Oil that I ordered. Tried it out this morning with my Panasonic shaver. It worked well enough, but I believe my Anthony Pre-Shave Oil works just a bit better. The Anthony Oil is more like a 5W30 Synthetic that can handle the high RPMs of the Panasonic. ^-^ I'll certainly use the Pacific Oil when I shave my face. It does have a very faint, but pleasant fragrance. I'd recommend it.
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I see there are a few who are considering trying the panasonic 8077 linear. I picked one up last year and use it to shave my head. It works great too!! Can be used wet or try. Me I wet my head and start shaving. Every 2 or 3 days. Takes it close as a blade without cutting yourself. Cleanup is easy too. It does take a few weeks to get use to. I do save money as compared to using a blade and shaving cream.
Tazdog
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Hey Tazdog,
Since you're a fan of electric razors (and the Panasonic in particular) go to this link and support Team Vortex.
http://www.slybaldguys.com/smf/index.php?topic=5925.0
Cheers,
Red
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Hey Red;
I did cast my vote for Team Vortex. Like you said........no cuts!!
Tazdog
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I went to Wal Mart a few days ago browsing for shave oil. (I was looking for American Crew and expecting to pay around $10-$15) the only shave oil I found there was Shave Secret and it was only like $3. I figured since it was so cheap it might not be any good, but I figured for $3 is was worth a try. I was going to try this out with my Panasonic 8078S when I get it. Will that be ok to do and will I have to clean the razor any particular way after using it with oil?
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I clean my Panasonic with alcohol and very hot water to remove the oil residue.
The Shave Secret oil is very good. I, however, don't like the clove scent.
Red
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That was one of the reasons I wanted American Crew. I've used a couple of their products in the past and the ones I have smelled great... very masculine. I guess I'll give SS a try even if it does make me smell like spiced cider.
Do you just clean the Panasonic with rubbing alcohol? Any particular kind? I know different kinds have different alcohol content. I have some at the house that is 70% Isopropyl would that work ok?
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That was one of the reasons I wanted American Crew. I've used a couple of their products in the past and the ones I have smelled great... very masculine. I guess I'll give SS a try even if it does make me smell like spiced cider.
Do you just clean the Panasonic with rubbing alcohol? Any particular kind? I know different kinds have different alcohol content. I have some at the house that is 70% Isopropyl would that work ok?
Yeah, the 70% Isopropyl should be fine. Just leave the shaver foil off until the blades try before putting it back together.
Red
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A little late to the party, but i just tried Shave Secret after reading the reviews on the SBG Blog. For hardware, I use the HeadBlade Sport and Atra twin blades.
I must say I was impressed, even over the performance of HeadSlick. I liked a baby oil shave, very smooth and close, but did not like the "gooey" feeling of the baby oil.
And they were not kidding about "three drops." I used three on my face and twice that on my dome and had more than enough lubricant. If I started to get any drag on the razor, I just rinsed the blade and got a little more water into the mix.
I don't really mind the smell, the cloves smell nice. Not overly masculine, but once dressed and deodorant and other scents applied I did not notice.
As for blade degradation, it's irrelevant for me. I buy Atra clones at 6/$1 so I change blades frequently. At that price, it's cheaper than disposables. I also use the HeadBlade with the blade reversed to shave my face, so it gets double duty.
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I've been using Shave secret only a short while (on my 2nd bottle.) I really like the way it will let you go over and over and over a spot to get that ultra smooth shave. It does tend to gum up some in my Quattro Titanium, so I use an old toothbrush (which looks nothing like the one I brush my teeth with) to help clean the razor. I've been using it after shaving as well, to get a bit of extra shine on my dome, but after seeing a couple of other products mentioned on this site, I will be trying them out when this bottle gets low. One thing for sure - I will never go back to shaving cream or gel of any type.
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hey buddha: yep...it's me that mentioned about the rubbing alcohol. U guys need 2 try it out. it decreases irritation & increases the life of your razors. Right on!
I will try this ASAP. Thanks!
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I agree, the oils mentioned are nice - but you guys need to try the following before axing lotions and gels!
Bald Guyz Ultimate Shave Gel
Billy Jealousy Hydroplane
I swear these are from another world.
Another cool one I just tried today is Bold For Men, it's a lotion that goes on your dry skin (no water necessary). You just apply, wait 30 seconds, and shave normally (rinsing your razor).