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Veterans May Legally Salute

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YOSP:

--- Quote from: skinhead002 on August 28, 2007, 01:39:02 PM ---As a Soldier, im glad they changed.  the sad thing to me is that so few people, including servicemen, even know what the reg was and where it was outlined.  Most of our Soldiers dont even know the bugle calls today.  Go to an Air Force base today and watch airmen refusing to pay courtesies to the flag when Retreat and To The Colors are played at 1700 is sad.  Want to see something reaalysad?  Watch film of ballgames from the 40's and 50's and watch every American stand and REMOVE their headgear(hats) when the anthem is played and the colors are posted or as the colors just pass in review.  Today, half of them wont even remove their hats...  Oh well, there I go again....

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It is only "enforced" at some USAF bases, but I do think it needs to be done by everyone regardless.

zuckermania:
I graduated from the Coast Guard Academy 2 years ago.  Even at a military academy we had a debate going on as to whether it was appropriate to stand in the position of attention or place your hand over your heart while the national anthem was playing, if out of uniform.  At the center of the debate was that placing your hand over your heart is considered a 'civilian salute'... a form of paying respect for those who don't wear the uniform.  This is interesting, and I'm not sure where I stand on it, but I think I like it.  I just hope that people who haven't heard of this law don't watch servicemen and women salute at a ball game, and think it is appropriate for themselves to throw up a half assed lazy salute, with their fingers spread wide apart.

BaldInKC:

--- Quote from: WannaBePadre on September 26, 2007, 10:36:30 PM ---Ugh. I remember 10 years ago on an USAF base ... only we Sailors would stop and salute at Colors / Retreat ... and the USAF Airmen would run into buildings.

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OK, I'm going to have to insert my experience as an Air Force veteran, especially in regards to Airmen vs Seamen behavior..

In 1993 when I was deployed to Vicenza, Italy for a NATO operation, we Airmen continued doing such silly things as wearing our covers (hats) outdoors and saluting officers while our Navy counterparts no longer bothered.

As for reveille/retreat/taps, I have never seen Airmen ignoring them (whether in civvies or uniform) at any Air Base I've ever been at (which is many, since I grew up an Air Force brat and then joined myself).

Anyway, I don't mean to sound defensive or antagonistic..  The disrespect the Air Force gets just wears on me sometimes.  Even the results of the "which branch" poll listed it as the "Air Farce".  All that being said, I know it's almost always just in good fun.  My favorite rejoinder is that we Air Force enlisted go about things the right way, we send our OFFICERS into battle while we stay safely behind LOL

WannaBePadre:
Part of my experience was that as squids on an airbase, we were in the minority. Maybe there were just more airmen to see ditching colors. No offense intended, bro.

BaldInKC:

--- Quote from: WannaBePadre on April 02, 2008, 09:51:59 AM ---Part of my experience was that as squids on an airbase, we were in the minority. Maybe there were just more airmen to see ditching colors. No offense intended, bro.

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None taken.  Like I said, I'm sure it's all in good fun!

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