I am a little late to the conversation, but I want to speak of behalf of the men UNDER thirty. I love the goatee. I have one... well kind of... (still trying to grow out the lines to connect the top and bottom) AND I have mustache wax... I like a nice mustache that curls... I am 24. My best friend had a goatee since he was 18 and he is 27... Still under 30. Dean, a close friend has a mustache and is only 22. This lady has no clue what she is talking about...