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Offline Sir Harry

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Brothers across the pond....Help!
« on: July 06, 2013, 10:00:02 PM »
Can one of you fellas across the pond explain to me what is the difference between "England", "Great Britain" and the "United Kingdom". Is it one country by three different names, or three different parts of the same country? Thanks, much appreciated.


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Re: Brothers across the pond....Help!
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2013, 10:57:09 PM »
I'm not across the pond but I can answer this for you.  

Great Britain is an island that lies northwest to continental Europe.  That landmass contains three countries:  England, Wales and Scotland, which were originally all independent of each other.   Wales fell under English control in the 13th century.  

England and Scotland have shared a monarch since 1603 when Queen Elizabeth I died.  She never married and did not produce an heir, so her cousin King James VI of Scotland became King James I of England upon her death.  England and Scotland remained two separate kingdoms for a little over 100 years.  The Acts of Union in 1707 merged the two kingdoms into one -- the Kingdom of Great Britain, during the reign of Queen Anne.

Ireland had long been under English control; it remained a separate kingdom until 1800, when another Act of Union was passed, dissolving the Irish parliament, and absorbing it into the Kingdom of Great Britain.   It was about this time that the political union began being referred to as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.  

Ireland won the right to Home Rule in 1921 when the Irish Free State was formed.  Northern Ireland was given the right to opt out of the Home Rule Treaty and so the country was partitioned.  The Irish Free State became the Republic of Ireland in 1949 when it seceded from the UK.  From that point on, the UK became known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Currently there is a faction in Scotland that favors secession from the UK.  How the country's name would change if that were to happen is not clear.

I think I've got all the main points right, but if not I'm sure some of our members from across the pond can set the record straight.   :)
« Last Edit: July 06, 2013, 11:02:59 PM by Razor X »

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Re: Brothers across the pond....Help!
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2013, 01:39:08 AM »
Thanks Razor....I was just confused when I saw neighbors from "England" and "United Kingdom" and I'm sitting there thinking "Isn't that the same country?" My world history teacher in high school didn't cover this (at least I don't remember him covering it)
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Re: Brothers across the pond....Help!
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2013, 01:41:58 AM »
Uhm..it's all the same really..I say "I live in England" rather that the "United Kingdom" which is a bit stuffy!

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Re: Brothers across the pond....Help!
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2013, 10:00:03 AM »
I think I've got all the main points right, but if not I'm sure some of our members from across the pond can set the record straight.   :)

Spot on, Razor X ! Are you quite sure you are not from this side of the Atlantic ?

Yes = UK's full and correct title "the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". The UK=England+Scotland+Wales+Northern Ireland. The UK does not include the Republic of Ireland which is an entirely separate country.

All nicely explained here:

As for Scottish independence, there will a referendum in Scotland in September 2014, allowing Scots to vote on whether to leave the United Kingdom.

« Last Edit: July 07, 2013, 10:03:55 AM by Mr Jules »

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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2013, 04:42:37 PM »
well.....nothing to add lol