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Inputs requested for Arnie's Argumentative Essay
Arnie:
Please note...most useful information (based on my studies to this point) is gained through interrogation before this option even "needs" to be utilized...if ever.
But, if that is what it takes to get even one piece of information that could squash another 9/11, USS Cole, etc...doesn't the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one?
http://www.youtube.com/v/Xa6c3OTr6yA
We never know how many unsaid victories we have utilizing any means of interrogation...it wouldn't make good positive news and could compromise national security.
D.A.L.U.I.:
--- Quote from: Arnie on April 18, 2012, 10:51:59 AM ---But, if that is what it takes to get even one piece of information that could squash another 9/11, USS Cole, etc...doesn't the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one?
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No, your supposition is based upon the false idea that torture yields valid and reliable information. It's the overwhelming failure of torture to meet that quality test, valid and reliable, that has been repeatedly proven in the field. Hence, torture satisfies a problematic ego issue on the part of the torturer, but doesn't yield valid data.
buddha:
--- Quote from: saintc on April 18, 2012, 11:20:08 AM ---
--- Quote from: Arnie on April 18, 2012, 10:51:59 AM ---But, if that is what it takes to get even one piece of information that could squash another 9/11, USS Cole, etc...doesn't the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one?
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Hence, torture satisfies a problematic ego issue on the part of the torturer, but doesn't yield valid data.
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tomgallagher:
--- Quote from: Mikekoz13 on April 17, 2012, 01:40:12 PM ---I say "Yes".... "War is Hell"............
Anyone that thinks our guys aren't tortured is fooling themself. Remember Daniel Pearl......
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Agreed.
Baldstu:
A real can of worms here I favour a pragmatic apporach of respect , my country has respected human life and this in turn has a Karmic effect . Torturing a human being or any being is unskilled
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